Trump

[Draz]

Donald Trump’s strategy in this campaign has been fairly clear from the beginning: Drive up Republican support among white voters in order to compensate for the GOP’s shrinking share among the growing nonwhite portion of the electorate. And Trump has succeeded in overperforming among a certain slice of white voters, those without a college degree. But overall, the strategy isn’t working. Trump has a smaller lead among white voters than Mitt Romney did in 2012, and Trump’s margin seems to be falling from where it was when the general election began.

Four years ago, Romney beat President Obama among white voters by 17 percentage points, according to pre-election polls. That was the largest winning margin among white voters for any losing presidential candidate since at least 1948. Of course, even if Trump did just as well as Romney did, it would help him less, given that the 2016 electorate will probably be more diverse that 2012’s. And to win — even if the electorate remained as white as it was four years ago — Trump would need a margin of 22 percentage points or more among white voters.

But Trump isn’t even doing as well as Romney. Trump is winning white voters by just 13 percentage points, according to an average of the last five live-interviewer national surveys.1 He doesn’t reach the magic 22 percentage point margin in a single one of these polls.

Trump’s less-than-overwhelming margins among white voters in the polls listed above are a big reason why all five surveys showed him trailing Hillary Clinton overall. In fact, Trump would be losing by a larger margin, but third-party candidates are getting support from younger and minority voters, so that Clinton is slightly underperforming Obama among these groups. But the magnitude of Clinton’s struggles with young and nonwhite voters isn’t anywhere big enough to cancel out Trump’s relatively poor showing among white voters.

Perhaps, it would be better news for Trump if he were at least trending in the right direction with white voters. But he’s moved backward compared with polls back in May and early June. Back then, Trump led Clinton by 17 percentage points, on average, among white voters. In other words, the longer white voters have had a chance to listen to Trump’s message, the more they have been put off by it as a group.

To be more specific, Trump is trading one type of white voter for another. Even as he piles up support among white men without a college degree, he’s on track for a record poor performance for a Republican among white voters with a degree. And right now, that tradeoff is a net negative for Trump, compared with Romney. If a ton of new white voters without a degree flooded into the electorate, that could change the math for Trump. But such a surge doesn’t look like it’s in the offing.

Source (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-doing-worse-than-romney-did-among-white-voters/)

[Nick Young]

And he is doing much better with black and hispanic voters than Romney did.

Trump is the great uniter. All races are uniting to support him.


Hillary is also doing much worse with all voters than Obama did.

She is losing New Mexico to Gary Johnson (LOL) and Minnesota (the only state that voted blue in the 84 landslide) has become a swing state under her watch.

[DonDadda59]

He's doing worse across the board. This thing was over before it began.

May be time to start talking about the handover of accounts for some of our more deplorable members...

[FillJackson]

She is losing New Mexico to Gary Johnson (LOL) and Minnesota (the only state that voted blue in the 84 landslide) has become a swing state under her watch.
The stupidity, it burns.

Neither New Mexico or Minnesota are among the 10 closest states. Minnesota only voted blue in 84 because the Democrat was from Minnesota. It's is by no means the most liberal state. She's running better than the Democrats did in 2000 and 2004 and within range of how Obama did in 2012.

Here's Clinton's chances of winning according the various models that Upshot tracks.

New Mexico
91% D
89% D
96% D
99% D
96% D
99% D
Solid D
Solid D
Solid D

Minnesota
90% D
82% D
95% D
98% D
96% D
96% D
Likely D
Likely D
Likely D

[UK2K]

The stupidity, it burns.

Neither New Mexico or Minnesota are among the 10 closest states. Minnesota only voted blue in 84 because the Democrat was from Minnesota. It's is by no means the most liberal state. She's running better than the Democrats did in 2000 and 2004 and within range of how Obama did in 2012.

Here's Clinton's chances of winning according the various models that Upshot tracks.

New Mexico
91% D
89% D
96% D
99% D
96% D
99% D
Solid D
Solid D
Solid D

Minnesota
90% D
82% D
95% D
98% D
96% D
96% D
Likely D
Likely D
Likely D

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_elections_electoral_college_map_race_changes. html

9/26 Minnesota Leans Clinton

[pastis]

He's doing worse across the board. This thing was over before it began.

May be time to start talking about the handover of accounts for some of our more deplorable members...

listen dondadda59, im with on some points regarding Trump, e.g. taxes and the fact that he probably will make the rich people in the states even richer (although i support trump in his goals to end the american support of islamistic rebells, to reduce the military all over the world, to aboish the Iran embargo and to approach to russia), but you NEVER admit that Hillary is full of lies as well? i mean cmong, whats your opinion about the "can we not just drone assange" sentence? What about all those wall street speeches or holding speeches for like 200.000$ for PUBLIC univeristies?

[Nick Young]

listen dondadda59, im with on some points regarding Trump, e.g. taxes and the fact that he probably will make the rich people in the states even richer (although i support trump in his goals to end the american support of islamistic rebells, to reduce the military all over the world, to aboish the Iran embargo and to approach to russia), but you NEVER admit that Hillary is full of lies as well? i mean cmong, whats your opinion about the "can we not just drone assange" sentence? What about all those wall street speeches or holding speeches for like 200.000$ for PUBLIC univeristies?
He is likely a paid Correct the Record shill (http://correctrecord.org/), based on the color coded DNC sponsored charts and graphs and CTR copy-pastes he has been relentlessly reposting across the entire forum for close to a year now.

[Bosnian Sajo]

He is likely a paid Correct the Record shill (http://correctrecord.org/), based on the color coded DNC sponsored charts and graphs and CTR copy-pastes he has been relentlessly reposting across the entire forum for close to a year now.


lmao, Nick believes people get paid to post on ISH :oldlol:



Why do any of us bother giving this dude any attention? What am I doing responding to this dude :facepalm

[warriorfan]

Nick is projecting his own fantasies about getting paid to post on a forum

[UK2K]

lmao, Nick believes people get paid to post on ISH :oldlol:



Why do any of us bother giving this dude any attention? What am I doing responding to this dude :facepalm

Yeah... crazy.

[QUOTE]The Daily Beast reports that Clinton SuperPac

[warriorfan]

That CTR stuff isn't even true, HRC is just playing mind games and it is mentally raping the Trumpers

[UK2K]

That CTR stuff isn't even true, HRC is just playing mind games and it is mentally raping the Trumpers
Kay....

[QUOTE]Correct the Record says it has already engaged with 5,000 Clinton attackers as part of this campaign. A lot of what gets posted online has been pretty benign, including images of a smiling Clinton alongside such phrases as

[qrich]

listen dondadda59, im with on some points regarding Trump, e.g. taxes and the fact that he probably will make the rich people in the states even richer (although i support trump in his goals to end the american support of islamistic rebells, to reduce the military all over the world, to aboish the Iran embargo and to approach to russia), but you NEVER admit that Hillary is full of lies as well? i mean cmong, whats your opinion about the "can we not just drone assange" sentence? What about all those wall street speeches or holding speeches for like 200.000$ for PUBLIC univeristies?

Why would he respond to that? He can't think for himself so if he can't find an answer on google, he won't bother

[Bosnian Sajo]

Yeah... crazy.


Lemme get this straight, you too think Don is getting paid to post on ISH?




https://m.popkey.co/37f658/7MeXa.gif

[highwhey]

That CTR stuff isn't even true, HRC is just playing mind games and it is mentally raping the Trumpers
trumptards will believe anything

[FillJackson]

The Daily Beast reports that Clinton SuperPac “Correct the Record” is openly admitting to spending $1 million to hire fake online Hillary supporters to swarm social media sites like Reddit and counteract Sanders' [actually existent unpaid] enthusiastic supporters' points about Hillary in the interest of “unity”. Barf.

Yeah... crazy.


The Daily Beast reported that? Then why don't you show us the article where the Daily Beast reports this money is going to hire fakes.

Barrier Breakers 2016 are they keywords you want to use.

[Annyong!]

Well, Romney looks like a saint next to Trump.

[FillJackson]

Originally Posted by warriorfan
That CTR stuff isn't even true, HRC is just playing mind games and it is mentally raping the Trumpers
Kay....


Correct the Record says it has already engaged with 5,000 Clinton attackers as part of this campaign. A lot of what gets posted online has been pretty benign, including images of a smiling Clinton alongside such phrases as “Love & Kindness” and “Thank you for Breaking Barriers with Hillary.”

Oh, I see you have the information and are just ignoring it. Because this is from the same article as your quote

Elizabeth Shappell, a spokesperson for the super PAC, who emailed a brief statement saying that Barrier Breakers, as the effort is labeled, "is only engaged in positive content, even when responding to offensive content, and is always identified" as Correct the Record, she wrote.

They are not hiring people undercover.....and I suspect this pretty much died after the primary. The people are overting identified as being from Correct The Record. The folks on Twitter who I saw do this always had CTR_ as part of their name. They basically post graphics like this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtciFWrWYAAUdZ_.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ct2ZZoRWYAAG2o-.jpg

and hope that other folks retweet or pass them along.

During the primaries they would nice pictures for each state that would say things like Delaware is with her and the primary date.

Do you have no idea of how small a number 5,000 users is? The idea of targeting ISH is pretty laughable. How many active users on on this site? Compared to Twitter or Facebook. The main effect of the Barrier Breakers Project has been to live rent free in the heads of the paranoid and give them an easy defense against any criticism or pushback. Also from that same article. (http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-clinton-digital-trolling-20160506-snap-htmlstory.html)
The campaign has been given credit by Sanders loyalists, however, for all manner of things that it has had nothing to do with, including posting pornography on pro-Sanders Facebook pages which resulted in them being temporarily taken down. (The pages went down as a result of a Facebook software glitch).

....
When actor Tim Robbins was confronted on Twitter after making the dubious assertion that election fraud is robbing Sanders of votes, he accused tweeters who challenged him of being paid shills for Brock. Within an hour, he had directed a variation of the same message at 88 different tweeters:

“Dear @CorrectRecord operatives, Thank you for following today’s talking points. Your check is in the mail. Signed, @davidbrockdc”

Those independent tweeters who challenged Robbins were not on Brock’s payroll. Correct the Record is not paying activists outside the organization to send messages, although it is arming them with instructions, talking points and postable infographics.

Sheep been sheared yet again.

[FillJackson]

Here's the media view of the Barrier Breakers twitter feed. You can see the type of graphics they create. It's a pretty identifiable style.

https://twitter.com/nobarriers2016/media

[Nick Young]

Here's the media view of the Barrier Breakers twitter feed. You can see the type of graphics they create. It's a pretty identifiable style.

https://twitter.com/nobarriers2016/media
[QUOTE]Guccifer 2.0 Hacked Clinton Foundation

Many of you have been waiting for this, some even asked me to do it.

So, this is the moment. I hacked the Clinton Foundation server and downloaded hundreds of thousands of docs and donors

[FillJackson]

I found out how search a twitter account for specific dates Nice.

nobarriers2016 since:2016-04-01 until:2016-06-01

So this is the type of stuff they were doing during the primaries
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiqflVwXIAAKc2M.jpg

[poido123]

That CTR stuff isn't even true, HRC is just playing mind games and it is mentally raping the Trumpers


On this side, we use facts. Not just what we believe.


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/king-hillary-clinton-paying-trolls-attack-people-online-article-1.2613980

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-clinton-digital-trolling-20160506-snap-htmlstory.html


Hillary Clinton's well-heeled backers have opened a new frontier in digital campaigning, one that seems to have been inspired by some of the Internet's worst instincts. Correct the Record, a super PAC coordinating with Clinton's campaign, is spending some $1 million to find and confront social media users who post unflattering messages about the Democratic front-runner.




So Dondadda is one of these operatives. FillJackson I'm 60% sure is one, he has always posted political shit, so I have my doubts on him.


It's better you guys know. The aim of this is to rile up and embolden suckers like you to get passionate about Hillary, because Hillary's following is anything but passionate about her.


Read the articles, don't just take my word for it.

[FillJackson]

So Correct the Record (https://correctrecord.org/) is a Super PAC.

The project to push back positive images on social is a project of CTR, is called Barrier Breakers. Almost every time on this board someone referred to CTR, they are referring the Barrier Breakers project. The thing that everyone has missed since this began is CTR employees are overtly identified as CTR employees. It probably would be illegal if they weren't.. If DonDadda was one he would be CTR_DonDadda

This is not the only project the Super Project has.
It has a bunch of partner websites on its website
Trump Lies (http://trumplies.com/)
Barrier Breakers (http://barrierbreakers2016.com/)
Trump Project (http://trumpproject.org/)
Benghazi Research Center (http://benghazicommittee.com/)

You can go to those site and see I or anyone else on ISH uses stuff from them.

Here's what their stuff looks like

Trumplies stuff looks like this
http://mwbp42o12r943p41p23r03xr.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Trump-lies-podium-e1475089820203.png

The Benghazi Research Center stuff that looks like this (http://benghazicommittee.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/The-Complete-Guide-to-the-Benghazi-Select-Committee-FINAL.compressed.pdf)

The Trump Project seems mostly to be a video series, so it's doesn't seem to have shareable graphics, but the it does have a common style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLVX6LwJXzgk6oRU8ImxP1ULXiDPgiwxBB&v=JKo-BN4OAa8
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqyoTI5XEAEvPQb.jpg

[poido123]

So Correct the Record (https://correctrecord.org/) is a Super PAC.

The project to push back positive images on social is a project of CTR, is called Barrier Breakers. Almost every time on this board someone referred to CTR, they are referring the Barrier Breakers project. The thing that everyone has missed since this began is CTR employees are overtly identified as CTR employees. It probably would be illegal if they weren't.. If DonDadda was one he would be CTR_DonDadda

This is not the only project the Super Project has.
It has a bunch of partner websites on its website
Trump Lies (http://trumplies.com/)
Barrier Breakers (http://barrierbreakers2016.com/)
Trump Project (http://trumpproject.org/)
Benghazi Research Center (http://benghazicommittee.com/)

You can go to those site and see I or anyone else on ISH uses stuff from them.

Here's what their stuff looks like

Trumplies stuff looks like this
http://mwbp42o12r943p41p23r03xr.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Trump-lies-podium-e1475089820203.png

The Benghazi Research Center stuff that looks like this (http://benghazicommittee.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/The-Complete-Guide-to-the-Benghazi-Select-Committee-FINAL.compressed.pdf)

The Trump Project seems mostly to be a video series, so it's doesn't seem to have shareable graphics, but the it does have a common style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLVX6LwJXzgk6oRU8ImxP1ULXiDPgiwxBB&v=JKo-BN4OAa8
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqyoTI5XEAEvPQb.jpg




If you read those articles, it clearly states that the 'ONLINE ARMY' do not have to use CTR or any affiliation in their username.

I know these kind of exposures are damaging to your pathetic paid to troll tactics endorsed by David Brock, no different to the pay to play scheme Hillary used to gain plenty of donors for her campaign.


This woman will literally do ANYTHING to win.

[FillJackson]

If you read those articles, it clearly states that the 'ONLINE ARMY' do not have to use CTR or any affiliation in their username.


Pssst. Articles can be wrong. I believe those articles are based on a press release. Google the quote I had earlier, you will see a later article.

I am not a lawyer, but I believe if they did this covertly would violate campaign finance laws.

[poido123]

Pssst. Articles can be wrong. I believe those articles are based on a press release. Google the quote I had earlier, you will see a later article.

I am not a lawyer, but I believe if they did this covertly would violate campaign finance laws.


There is solid evidence of Hillary 'pay to play' for donors.

I think we can all conclude that Hillary would pay online operatives to combat Trump supporters and disinformation.

David Brock has admitted it. There are articles everywhere about it.

It really isn't that debatable.

[Duderonomy]

He's doing worse across the board. This thing was over before it began.

May be time to start talking about the handover of accounts for some of our more deplorable members...
Forget it, Ish will retire your account and give you the Voldemort treatment.

[FillJackson]

Right now in a head to head matchup pollster's average has Clinton at a 6.5 point lead at 47.4% This is better than Obama was at this point which surprised me. This was after the first debate and he was at 46.9%

However, if you add Johnson to the mix, she's at 43.9% so she is also doing worse than Obama at this point.

There's about 17 points of non Clinton Trump voters at the moment. with 8 points for Johnson and the other undecided or Other.