IF Pence steps away from VP: What destruction will this cause?

[Draz]

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[Terahite]

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Sounds like he's going to withdraw. :yaohappy:

[bladefd]

Sounds like he's going to withdraw. :yaohappy:

He won't withdraw.

[Draz]

At this point, withdrawing is not the problem, OVERTAKING the GOP nominee would be even more hilarious. Everyone's trying to get him on board but it's too late.

[ILLsmak]

At this point, withdrawing is not the problem, OVERTAKING the GOP nominee would be even more hilarious. Everyone's trying to get him on board but it's too late.

I'd come out and vote for Pence. He seems better than Hillary or Trump. He's not a piece of shit, so that's a start.

I don't think they can do it without Trump stepping down, though, and Trump already said he's not gonna. Trump is gonna **** everyone along with him.

-Smak

[poido123]

To the intelligent posters of this site, is this not a perfect opportunity to open slather on Hillary and her husband's predatorial ways?

The rape lawsuits? Sexual assaults? Affairs she covered up for?


Trump can really go for the jugular on Hillary if he delivers the debate right.

[KyrieTheFuture]

I'd come out and vote for Pence. He seems better than Hillary or Trump. He's not a piece of shit, so that's a start.

I don't think they can do it without Trump stepping down, though, and Trump already said he's not gonna. Trump is gonna **** everyone along with him.

-Smak
You don't know Mike Pence then.

[Real Men Wear Green]

If Trump has another sucky debate performance Pence will abandon him but Pence has already abandoned reelection as Governor to be Trump's running mate. If the Trump ticket fails he's out of a job and if it fails with Pence dropping out Pence will now have no job and a sizable portion of the Republican base holding a grudge against him for abandoning their hero. If Pence runs away his political career is over and he has to know that.

[Draz]

To the intelligent posters of this site, is this not a perfect opportunity to open slather on Hillary and her husband's predatorial ways?

The rape lawsuits? Sexual assaults? Affairs she covered up for?


Trump can really go for the jugular on Hillary if he delivers the debate right.
Wrong. That'll only do her good. Opening worms and blaming her for her husbands wrong doings. Her forgiving him is like trumps wife forgiving him.

[ILLsmak]

You don't know Mike Pence then.

Well all politicians are pieces of shit, but I mean on the same level as Hillary and Trump. Maybe you think he is. To me, I dunno... maybe I need to know more. Feel free to point me to some stuff if you will.

-Smak

[Real Men Wear Green]

To the intelligent posters of this site,First of all, you are an idiot. Don't talk about intelligence, please.
is this not a perfect opportunity to open slather on Hillary and her husband's predatorial ways?Of course not. It's something that he may try to do but Trump will be asked questions, half from the audience and half from the moderators. The questions will be about whatever questions the questioner wants. Those questions will actually be about foreign policy, the wall, tax policy, law enforcement, etc. He may get a few questions about scandals but those questions will be mainly focused on his own issues. He can try and turn those questions into attacks on Bill Clinton but we heard all about Clinton's scandals 20 years ago. There is nothing new there which is why dredging that up won't change anyone's mind. The people that hate the Clintons for the President's indiscretions have already ruled Mrs Clinton out. The only question is whether or not Trumps' scandals make those people turn their backs on him as well.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Well all politicians are pieces of shit, but I mean on the same level as Hillary and Trump. Maybe you think he is. To me, I dunno... maybe I need to know more. Feel free to point me to some stuff if you will.

-Smak
He's incredibly environmentally unfriendly (which might not matter to you) and against all kinds of LGBT shit (which to be honest doesn't really matter to me) but if you want a recent example, a man who spent 10 years in jail of a 40 year sentence was found to be wrongfully convicted a few weeks ago and he denied the request for clemency "out of respect for the judicial process" and then blamed the lawyers for not being good enough at their job in the first place.

I would also probably still vote for him over those two

[ILLsmak]

First of all, you are an idiot. Don't talk about intelligence, please. Of course not. It's something that he may try to do but Trump will be asked questions, half from the audience and half from the moderators. The questions will be about whatever questions the questioner wants. Those questions will actually be about foreign policy, the wall, tax policy, law enforcement, etc. He may get a few questions about scandals but those questions will be mainly focused on his own issues. He can try and turn those questions into attacks on Bill Clinton but we heard all about Clinton's scandals 20 years ago. There is nothing new there which is why dredging that up won't change anyone's mind. The people that hate the Clintons for the President's indiscretions have already ruled Mrs Clinton out. The only question is whether or not Trumps' scandals make those people turn their backs on him as well.


Also, otoh, you know they both didn't answer questions and continued to throw mud at each other, so it's hard to imagine they aren't gonna be bringing more shit.

I mean, I know you watched both the Pres1 and VP debate and you saw how someone asked them a question and they didn't answer it at all... just went into a monologue then maybe sauntered back to it in the end. I promise you that shit will happen again.

The truth is, almost all of these things have undertones. Each question can be taken in a scandalous direction, look at what you listed.

Foreign policy: RUSSIA... TRUMP LOVES PUTIN.
Taxes: Trumps tax returns, possibly something to do with Hillary's emails and coddling of big banks.
The Wall: Racism, Alicia Machado, etc.
Law Enforcement: Racism again. Black people are living in hell.

It's gonna be ugly. I almost don't wanna watch, but I wanna see if Trump can step up to the plate and apologize for the shit he's done as well as his sorry ass first debate and actually pull it off.

Edit: @ Kyrie, alright. Not a 'huge issue' on those other issue's level, but yea those are shithead things.

-Smak

[poido123]

Wrong. That'll only do her good. Opening worms and blaming her for her husbands wrong doings. Her forgiving him is like trumps wife forgiving him.


Nobody likes a sexual predator enabler.


You assume the undecided voters are stupid? Why do you think they are sitting on the fence?


The ones considering these two candidates would be aware of Trump's bufoonery and alpha male tendancies, what they really want to know is who would make a suitable president?


I don't think boy's talk with sexual connotations is really the turning point for them. They want to know the levels of corruption of both candidates, the security of the country and their stances on borders.

Things that actually matter. Not feminist issues. Those feminists are already pro Hillary.

[poido123]

First of all, you are an idiot. Don't talk about intelligence, please. Of course not. It's something that he may try to do but Trump will be asked questions, half from the audience and half from the moderators. The questions will be about whatever questions the questioner wants. Those questions will actually be about foreign policy, the wall, tax policy, law enforcement, etc. He may get a few questions about scandals but those questions will be mainly focused on his own issues. He can try and turn those questions into attacks on Bill Clinton but we heard all about Clinton's scandals 20 years ago. There is nothing new there which is why dredging that up won't change anyone's mind. The people that hate the Clintons for the President's indiscretions have already ruled Mrs Clinton out. The only question is whether or not Trumps' scandals make those people turn their backs on him as well.



Perhaps as a moderator you should keep your profound thoughts of wisdom to actually doing your job and staying out of posters debates and remain impartial?

[Real Men Wear Green]

Also, otoh, you know they both didn't answer questions and continued to throw mud at each other, so it's hard to imagine they aren't gonna be bringing more shit.

I mean, I know you watched both the Pres1 and VP debate and you saw how someone asked them a question and they didn't answer it at all... just went into a monologue then maybe sauntered back to it in the end. I promise you that shit will happen again.

The truth is, almost all of these things have undertones. Each question can be taken in a scandalous direction, look at what you listed.

Foreign policy: RUSSIA... TRUMP LOVES PUTIN.
Taxes: Trumps tax returns, possibly something to do with Hillary's emails and coddling of big banks.
The Wall: Racism, Alicia Machado, etc.
Law Enforcement: Racism again. Black people are living in hell.

It's gonna be ugly. I almost don't wanna watch, but I wanna see if Trump can step up to the plate and apologize for the shit he's done as well as his sorry ass first debate and actually pull it off.

Edit: @ Kyrie, alright. Not a 'huge issue' on those other issue's level, but yea those are shithead things.

-SmakThey can alter the discussion here and there but when Trump is asked about how he deals with Russia interfering with Syria he can only bring up Monica Lewinsky so many times before it becomes just too ridiculous.

[poido123]

They can alter the discussion here and there but when Trump is asked about how he deals with Russia interfering with Syria he can only bring up Monica Lewinsky so many times before it becomes just too ridiculous.


Why isn't Hillary being pressed on her issues as hard as Trump? I remember watching Lester ask Hillary about the emails, she gave some vague answer with a switch to a different topic and he let her off?


Don't you think if the moderator was at all impartial, that he would spend more time covering the main issues OF BOTH CANDIDATES, instead of honing in on just Trump?

[ILLsmak]

Why isn't Hillary being pressed on her issues as hard as Trump? I remember watching Lester ask Hillary about the emails, she gave some vague answer with a switch to a different topic and he let her off?


Don't you think if the moderator was at all impartial, that he would spend more time covering the main issues OF BOTH CANDIDATES, instead of honing in on just Trump?


Lester wasn't ready to mod. He was prolly in Hillary's pocket, true, but the actual issue was his inability to guide the discussion properly.

I wouldn't count on anyone being impartial to Trump tho.

-Smak

[KyrieTheFuture]

Why isn't Hillary being pressed on her issues as hard as Trump? I remember watching Lester ask Hillary about the emails, she gave some vague answer with a switch to a different topic and he let her off?


Don't you think if the moderator was at all impartial, that he would spend more time covering the main issues OF BOTH CANDIDATES, instead of honing in on just Trump?
Trump can't stand the pressure. Melts down almost as bad as you.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Why isn't Hillary being pressed on her issues as hard as Trump? I remember watching Lester ask Hillary about the emails, she gave some vague answer with a switch to a different topic and he let her off?


Don't you think if the moderator was at all impartial, that he would spend more time covering the main issues OF BOTH CANDIDATES, instead of honing in on just Trump?
:cry:

[poido123]

Lester wasn't ready to mod. He was prolly in Hillary's pocket, true, but the actual issue was his inability to guide the discussion properly.

I wouldn't count on anyone being impartial to Trump tho.

-Smak


You would think with such an important event like that, they would have someone competent.


What does that tell you?


:rolleyes:

[poido123]

:cry:


This moderator needs to go. Seriously.


So immature.

[ILLsmak]

You would think with such an important event like that, they would have someone competent.


What does that tell you?


:rolleyes:

He shit the bed, basically. He's a big name. I always liked him on Dateline (haha.) But you need someone who is stronger than that to bang w/ the big boys. He did too much timid "Mr. Trump..." when he needed to be assertive. It's hard, cuz Trump's Trump, but he let them banter over what amounts to brother-sister shit too much. The girl who did the VP debate was better, I think. If she was on the first debate, I think it would have gone better, hilariously.

I see the third is moderated by a Fox news guy, so maybe that will be pro Trump... but I dunno if it'll matter by then.

-Smak

[poido123]

He shit the bed, basically. He's a big name. I always liked him on Dateline (haha.) But you need someone who is stronger than that to bang w/ the big boys. He did too much timid "Mr. Trump..." when he needed to be assertive. It's hard, cuz Trump's Trump, but he let them banter over what amounts to brother-sister shit too much. The girl who did the VP debate was better, I think. If she was on the first debate, I think it would have gone better, hilariously.

I see the third is moderated by a Fox news guy, so maybe that will be pro Trump... but I dunno if it'll matter by then.

-Smak


It matters.


Every public appearance under these kinds of pressure can possibly expose a candidate to a turn in the polls/votes.


This aint over. It's never easy for an inidividual to come after you personally and not react.


If Trump presses the right buttons, I think he COULD potentially get Hillary to rant something very offensive or damning.