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Euroleague
10-09-2016, 11:34 AM
http://www.eurohoops.net/featured/324004/westbrook-europan-offenses-10-times-better-nba

“I think one thing people don’t realize is guarding teams in Europe,” Westbrook said to “The Norman transcript“. “Their offenses are 10 times better than NBA offense just because they move around a lot. A lot of movement and not as much talent so they have to do different things to be able to score the basketball.”

Coach Billy agreed with Westbrook: “Our guys getting more comfortable [with] the pace and the rhythm and how the offenses in Europe are running and that was probably a day to get acclimated and adjusted to that, to the speed and the cutting of the game. I thought the first game (ed.note: against Real Madrid), the ball got downhill quite a bit and got in the paint. Our three-point defense wasn’t where it needed to be, probably, in both games, but it was much better [in the second]. I thought our ability to keep the ball out of the paint was really, really important. I just think that we rotated, we scrambled, we moved much better than we did to cover and rotate in certain situations.”

“I think it was a good experience for us to be able to go to Europe and be able to guard those offenses and some of the best teams,” Westbrook said. “That’s always good for us.”

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Not only do Westbrook and Donovan confirm what I have been saying here for years, that EuroLeague has much better offense than the NBA - they also have confirmed another thing I have been saying here for years.....

That this whole NBA only fan argument that "the speed of the game is much quicker in NBA" and "EuroLeague is much slower than NBA" is absolutely 100% untrue, false and incorrect.

As I have said here numerous times, the speed of the game in EuroLeague is MUCH FASTER than in the NBA, because unlike the NBA, the ball moves through the air, through passes, and not by guys dribbling the air out of the ball (like the NBA), which means the offense in EuroLeague is operated at a much, MUCH faster and quicker speed than it is in the NBA.

And Coach Donovan confirmed that also.

Finally, ALL of you retarded NBA only fans can.....

https://media1.giphy.com/media/Lk9SktDAGzYUU/200w.gif#5

Prometheus
10-09-2016, 12:11 PM
Nobody cares.

nathanjizzle
10-09-2016, 12:20 PM
10 times? sounds legit.

ArbitraryWater
10-09-2016, 12:27 PM
Thats actually valid. NBA top 5 player confirmed it :applause:

PistonsFan#21
10-09-2016, 12:43 PM
Thats actually valid. NBA top 5 player confirmed it :applause:

Good thing Westbrook is not only recognized for his amazing athleticism and basketball skills, but also for his high bball IQ and understanding of complex offensive schemes. One of the smartest and best decision maker in the league :applause:

lilteapot
10-09-2016, 12:43 PM
Good thing Westbrook is not only recognized for his amazing athleticism and basketball skills, but also for his high bball IQ and understanding of complex offensive schemes. One of the smartest and best decision maker in the league :applause:
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Hey Yo
10-09-2016, 12:48 PM
[QUOTE]A lot of movement and not as much talent so they have to do different things to be able to score the basketball.

K.dot ShowTime
10-09-2016, 01:01 PM
Good thing Westbrook is not only recognized for his amazing athleticism and basketball skills, but also for his high bball IQ and understanding of complex offensive schemes. One of the smartest and best decision maker in the league :applause:

:roll:

ArbitraryWater
10-09-2016, 01:21 PM
Good thing Westbrook is not only recognized for his amazing athleticism and basketball skills, but also for his high bball IQ and understanding of complex offensive schemes. One of the smartest and best decision maker in the league :applause:

Doesnt that put even more emphasis on it, when he himself can see that European offenses are run better?

I know Euroleague is insane, but this claim is absolutely valid..

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
10-09-2016, 01:30 PM
Probably, but that's because individually they're far less talented and athletic.


Doesnt that put even more emphasis on it, when he himself can see that European offenses are run better?

I know Euroleague is insane, but this claim is absolutely valid..

Picking up on sarcasm isn't exactly your forte, huh? :oldlol:

ArbitraryWater
10-09-2016, 02:15 PM
Probably, but that's because individually they're far less talented and athletic.



Picking up on sarcasm isn't exactly your forte, huh? :oldlol:

Is your comprehension actually that terrible? :oldlol:

warriorfan
10-09-2016, 02:21 PM
AutisticWater with another one :roll:

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
10-09-2016, 02:40 PM
Is your comprehension actually that terrible? :oldlol:

You should probably be asking yourself that question. I mean..given that you cannot tell someone is purposefully being facetious and all.

Do explain yourself though. Maybe we're all just playing catchup with a "prodigy" :eek:

ArbitraryWater
10-09-2016, 02:50 PM
You should probably be asking yourself that question. I mean..given that you cannot tell someone is purposefully being facetious and all.

Do explain yourself though. Maybe we're all just playing catchup with a "prodigy" :eek:

Go ahead, tell me how exactly my comment lets you know I didnt catch his sarcasm. Try to explain it. Westbrook, playing a shallow offense, being able to see the difference... quite the tough one here lol

egokiller
10-09-2016, 03:18 PM
Probably, but that's because individually they're far less talented and athletic.



Picking up on sarcasm isn't exactly your forte, huh? :oldlol:

:roll:

Dray n Klay
10-09-2016, 03:24 PM
egokiller = Straight_Ballin

Milbuck
10-09-2016, 03:26 PM
[QUOTE]"A lot of movement and [SIZE="6"]not as much talent so they have to do different things to be able to score the basketball.

CuhGetsBucks
10-09-2016, 03:27 PM
All I read is Westbrook wouldn't make the playoffs in the euroleague :roll: :roll:

boldarblood
10-09-2016, 05:06 PM
Need to be when your talent is 10 times worse than what is in the NBA.

comerb
10-09-2016, 06:20 PM
You used Westbrook as a reference for critiquing offensive basketball schemes?

Are you going to use Rose as a reference for critiquing quantum theory next?

Smoke117
10-09-2016, 06:34 PM
Nobody cares.

This.

Prometheus
10-09-2016, 07:07 PM
A Water was obviously aware of the sarcasm and was noting that it supports validity of OP's assertion that even a low IQ player is aware of the difference. Its not his fault you misunderstood his comment.

Still, in regards to the original point, nobody cares.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
10-09-2016, 07:12 PM
A Water was obviously aware of the sarcasm and was noting that it supports validity of OP's assertion that even a low IQ player is aware of the difference. Its not his fault you misunderstood his comment.

Still, in regards to the original point, nobody cares.

There's a difference, but in no way, shape or form are european offenses factually better. That's a matter of opinion and Westbrook's opinion is basically irrelevant.

Guy wouldn't know what a structured offense looks like similar to a retard not knowing his ass from his elbow.

Hulk
10-09-2016, 07:29 PM
Euroleague reading the article
http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/imagecache/Node_Page/images/1311947803699.jpg

HenryGarfunkle
10-09-2016, 11:12 PM
There's a difference, but in no way, shape or form are european offenses factually better. That's a matter of opinion and Westbrook's opinion is basically irrelevant.

Guy wouldn't know what a structured offense looks like similar to a retard not knowing his ass from his elbow.
Yeah man, the 4.0 GPA graduate who literally plays basketball for a living doesn't have a say. His opinion is worthless. I trust the fat slob behind the "kuniva_dAMiGhTy" account on ISH (who btw nobody respects or cares about) - to tell things how they really are.

Dray n Klay
10-09-2016, 11:18 PM
Yeah man, the 4.0 GPA graduate who literally plays basketball for a living doesn't have a say. His opinion is worthless. I trust the fat slob behind the "kuniva_dAMiGhTy" account on ISH (who btw nobody respects or cares about) - to tell things how they really are.

:roll: :roll:

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
10-09-2016, 11:26 PM
Yeah man, the 4.0 GPA graduate who literally plays basketball for a living doesn't have a say. His opinion is worthless. I trust the fat slob behind the "kuniva_dAMiGhTy" account on ISH (who btw nobody respects or cares about) - to tell things how they really are.

And yet still plays like a reckless maniac.

As for me? Fat slob? :oldlol: I'm a health freak, kid. If those pics you posted of yourself are legit, I would fold you in half like a lawn chair. Literally.

Now hurry and get another one of your alts to laugh at your post. Because that's all you're good for...creating multiple accounts to help validate your existence.

HenryGarfunkle
10-09-2016, 11:34 PM
And yet still plays like a reckless maniac.

As for me? Fat slob? :oldlol: I'm a health freak kid, and if those pics you posted of yourself are legit, I would fold you in half like a lawn chair.

Hurry and get another one of your alts to laugh at your post. :oldlol:
So he uses his superior athleticism to his benefit by attacking and not playing a conventional style, because it doesn't suit his strengths. What a dummy!

You're nothing but a loser. Anyone can say they're a health freak. You're not a health freak, you're just a freak. Who's probably incredibly ugly and repulsive looking. I'd actually bank on that.

So you've been here for almost a decade.. which almost certainly puts you over age 30... and yet you're still wrongly accusing someone of being an alt because you have nothing else to say. You're not a winner dude. Nobody is buying your obvious bullshit. :lol

TheGreatDeraj
10-09-2016, 11:40 PM
“I think one thing people don’t realize is guarding teams in Europe,” Westbrook said to “The Norman transcript“. “Their offenses are 10 times better than NBA offense just because they move around a lot. A lot of movement and not as much talent so they have to do different things to be able to score the basketball.”
http://www.eurohoops.net/featured/324004/westbrook-europan-offenses-10-times-better-nba

Glad you've come around to the fact that Euroleague has less talent.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
10-09-2016, 11:45 PM
So he uses his superior athleticism to his benefit by attacking and not playing a conventional style, because it doesn't suit his strengths. What a dummy!

You're nothing but a loser. Anyone can say they're a health freak. You're not a health freak, you're just a freak. Who's probably incredibly ugly and repulsive looking. I'd actually bank on that.

So you've been here for almost a decade.. which almost certainly puts you over age 30... and you're wrongly accusing someone of being an alt because you have nothing else to say. You're not a winner dude. Nobody is buying your obvious bullshit. :lol

Are you like deprived of attention or something?

Dude plays like a bonehead, the literal definition of a bull in a china shop. Yet here you are defending him like he sonned you or something. Goofy ass motherf*cker. :oldlol: You're like the master of typing a whole bunch of words, but either get absolutely everything wrong or say practically nothing.

Carry on...

HenryGarfunkle
10-09-2016, 11:54 PM
Are you like deprived of attention or something?

Dude plays like a bonehead, the literal definition of a bull in a china shop. Yet here you are defending him like he sonned you or something. Goofy ass motherf*cker. :oldlol: You're like the master of typing a whole bunch of words, but either get absolutely everything wrong or say practically nothing.

Carry on...
Looks like you have a lot of bottled up emotions about me. I can't really seem to ever recall reading any of your posts - you're just not a very memorable or exciting guy.

I called you out and made you look stupid, and now you're projecting hardcore and trying to bring me down to your loser level. NOPE! Not gonna happen reject. Stay in your own lane. I'll stay in mine.

Nick Young
10-09-2016, 11:58 PM
The most unstoppable thing would be the talented NBA athletes running European style offenses. This is how I would describe the San Antonio Spurs.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
10-10-2016, 12:11 AM
Looks like you have a lot of bottled up emotions about me. I can't really seem to ever recall reading any of your posts - you're just not a very memorable or exciting guy.

I called you out and made you look stupid, and now you're projecting hardcore and trying to bring me down to your loser level. NOPE! Not gonna happen reject. Stay in your own lane. I'll stay in mine.

Hey idiot, you quoted and personally insulted me acting like we know each other IRL. :oldlol: Before quoting my post, your existence honestly didn't even cross my brain.

But that's you in a nutshell outside of these forums.

You sit here all day, as you have since ISH's inception, and create multiple alts because you cease to exist outside of your internet world. Its a wide-known fact around these parts. Good luck with that.

HenryGarfunkle
10-10-2016, 12:21 AM
Hey idiot, you quoted and personally insulted me acting like we know each other IRL. :oldlol: Before quoting my post, your existence honestly didn't even cross my brain.

But that's you in a nutshell outside of these forums.

You sit here all day, as you have since ISH's inception, and create multiple alts because you cease to exist outside of your internet world. Its a wide-known fact around these parts. Good luck with that.
^ Obviously my existence didn't cross this guys mind. Even though he literally has made-up stories about me off-hand. :oldlol:

Btw loser, when you make a stupid post you DESERVE to be personally insulted. You're the guy who's been here since ISH's inception ... and what is ISH's inception exactly? 2000 or somewhere around that time? Ask anybody who's confirmed to have been here at the time and let's see if anything you say has any credibility.

And remember, it was your credibility I attacked to begin with and it looks like it was for good reason. You literally just talk out of your ass or just flat-out lie. You're a LOSER.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
10-10-2016, 12:34 AM
^ Obviously my existence didn't cross this guys mind. Even though he literally has made-up stories about me off-hand. :oldlol:

Btw loser, when you make a stupid post you DESERVE to be personally insulted. You're the guy who's been here since ISH's inception ... and what is ISH's inception exactly? 2000 or somewhere around that time? Ask anybody who's confirmed to have been here at the time and let's see if anything you say has any credibility.

And remember, it was your credibility I attacked to begin with and it looks like it was for good reason. You literally just talk out of your ass or just flat-out lie. You're a LOSER.

Except, I never called Westbrook's opinion "worthless" like you conveniently misquoted. Shit for brains. What I said was its basically irrelevant because of his play style, that and the fact guy is absurdly ball dominant.

We all know you're "budaddi". And that other clown before him who, like you, typed endelssly but never actually said anything.

I hate to break it to you dude, but nobody is "projecting" and "bringing you down to loser status" (lol @ this trailer trash acting like he's a celebrity). You do that on your own, Simon. You're literally the quintessential loser. In every sense. :oldlol:

HenryGarfunkle
10-10-2016, 12:35 AM
Except, I never called Westbrook's opinion "worthless" like you purposefully misquoted. Shit for brains. What I said was its basically irrelevant because of his play style, that and the fact guy is absurdly ball dominant.

We all know you're "budaddi". And that other clown before him who, like you, typed endelssly but never actually said anything. I hate it to break it to you dude, but nobody is projecting and bringing you down to "loser status" (lol @ this trailer trash acting like he's a celebrity). You do that on your own, Simon. You're literally the quintessential loser. In every sense. :oldlol:
This is so boring. You're so bad. Everything is so cliche and old with you. Of course you finish off your incredibly tired post with another Simon tidbit.

I get it, you want the last word. That's the loser in you thinking you actually have a chance to get the better of something. Your efforts are cringe-worthy though brotha and that's what makes you such an embarrassing 35 year old bitch-boy whose failed miserably in life.

Carry on with your boring lies. You failed to keep my attention.

tpols
10-10-2016, 12:41 AM
russell speaks the truth. Europe is far more skill "team" based, USA more physically talented guys.. that shouldnt hurt feelings

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
10-10-2016, 12:49 AM
This is so boring. You're so bad. Everything is so cliche and old with you. Of course you finish off your incredibly tired post with another Simon tidbit.

I get it, you want the last word. That's the loser in you thinking you actually have a chance to get the better of something. Your efforts are cringe-worthy though brotha and that's what makes you such an embarrassing 35 year old bitch-boy who's failed miserably in life.

Carry on with your boring lies. You failed to keep my attention.

:oldlol:

Another strikeout. I'm literally picking you apart like a herring being taken off the bone. I could be half a sleep and still get you feeling some type of way.

BTW, why wouldn't I call you...Simon? Its like the running joke here, along with you feverishly logging into your alts to pat yourself on the back.

And here lies the difference: Unlike you, its NOT actually trolling on my part. These are all FACTS.

But hey, have fun contemplating what alt you'll log into tomorrow. :cheers:

Dray n Klay
10-10-2016, 12:56 AM
So he uses his superior athleticism to his benefit by attacking and not playing a conventional style, because it doesn't suit his strengths. What a dummy!

You're nothing but a loser. Anyone can say they're a health freak. You're not a health freak, you're just a freak. Who's probably incredibly ugly and repulsive looking. I'd actually bank on that.

So you've been here for almost a decade.. which almost certainly puts you over age 30... and yet you're still wrongly accusing someone of being an alt because you have nothing else to say. You're not a winner dude. Nobody is buying your obvious bullshit. :lol

:lol :roll:

tomtucker
10-10-2016, 05:31 AM
Good thing Westbrook is not only recognized for his amazing athleticism and basketball skills, but also for his high bball IQ and understanding of complex offensive schemes. One of the smartest and best decision maker in the league :applause:
:lol :roll:

ArbitraryWater
10-10-2016, 06:50 AM
Never seen Mighty this rattled lol, besides when I keep him in his lane.. just smileys all day with him. His way of expressing anger. On top, he's obviously proven to have terrible reading comprehension here... he accuses Henry of coming at him like he knew him IRL like he didnt come at me trying to pick out some pattern :roll:

edit: top 5 player in the world

BlakFrankWhite
10-10-2016, 07:07 AM
Best player in the world.

Prometheus
10-10-2016, 07:12 AM
Reading the last page of this thread right now makes me feel like I'm reading a facebook argument between two nineteen-year-old girls. You two are f*cking gay as f*ck.

Still more interesting than Euroleague's agenda though. ISH is pretty sad :oldlol:

1manfastbreak
10-10-2016, 03:31 PM
http://www.eurohoops.net/featured/324004/westbrook-europan-offenses-10-times-better-nba


As I have said here numerous times, the speed of the game in EuroLeague is MUCH FASTER than in the NBA, because unlike the NBA, the ball moves through the air, through passes, and not by guys dribbling the air out of the ball (like the NBA), which means the offense in EuroLeague is operated at a much, MUCH faster and quicker speed than it is in the NBA.



This is not true. The speed of the offense in a half-court situation is quicker, because like you said, the ball is passed more and dribbled less.

However, the overall speed of the game is much quicker in the NBA due to the superior athletes. I don't see how anyone could ever debate this, even if you are some Euroleague fanboy.

Why do you think other countries hacked Team USA in the Olympics (outside of the fact that they had some terrible free throw shooters). Because NBA players in transition are nearly unstoppable.

FIBA is a different style of game that utilizes every player on the court. Where as some NBA teams (like Russ and the Thunder) will rely on the ability of 1-2 players to carry them on offense.

Euroleague
10-10-2016, 06:45 PM
This is not true. The speed of the offense in a half-court situation is quicker, because like you said, the ball is passed more and dribbled less.

However, the overall speed of the game is much quicker in the NBA due to the superior athletes. I don't see how anyone could ever debate this, even if you are some Euroleague fanboy.

Why do you think other countries hacked Team USA in the Olympics (outside of the fact that they had some terrible free throw shooters). Because NBA players in transition are nearly unstoppable.

FIBA is a different style of game that utilizes every player on the court. Where as some NBA teams (like Russ and the Thunder) will rely on the ability of 1-2 players to carry them on offense.

The speed in the NBA is no faster at all. In fact, that's why the NBA has the defensive 3 seconds rule and the no hand check rule, to try to speed up the game for guys that are not good at shooting or dribbling.

Also, EuroLeague has no relation to FIBA, and is no more related to FIBA than the NBA is.

The Olympics has nothing to do with the EuroLeague, nor the NBA either.

The EuroLeague has a rule that if you foul someone on a fast break, it's a technical foul, with free throws and possession of the ball being awarded to the team that is fouled.

What you talk about in the Olympics, where teams foul to stop the fast break, isn't even allowed under EuroLeague rules, and actually will result in a technical foul if it is done.