Preseason: DEN @ LAL - 10-9-2016

[Naero]

As a game-consecutive rematch--the previous of which the Lakers' third- and fourth-string players relinquished a late-game lead in--these teams square off again tonight.

Win or lose in these outcome-inconsequential games, I can't wait to see more of Luke Walton's system unfold and how well this young team continues to synergize. :rockon:

[r0drig0lac]

Russell :eek:

[Naero]

J'Angelo Russell. :applause:

[AirTupac]

Eat shit Nug fans. D'Angelo 17 in the 1st LOL

[NuggetsFan]

Eat shit Nug fans. D'Angelo 17 in the 1st LOL

Man Russell being better than Mudiay is all you have :oldlol: Jokic is being rested. Denver won the last game, won more games last year, will win more this, our young core is bigger/looks better, on top of all that Russell is a 2nd overall pick that is suppose to be better than Mudiay ... who's eating shit here?

[Naero]

Ingram is still underwhelming offensively, but he's at least utilizing his length to be impactful on the other end of the floor.

I'm not too consternated about it at this time, however; he'll find his touch with his jumpshots--his main forte on that end--as the first-time jitters inevitably wane away. As long as he can stave off injuries early on--my biggest misgiving about him with his current physique--I feel good about his development.

[NuggetsFan]

Russell looks great tho. Props to him. His 3 ball looks like what it was billed as coming out of college. Randle looks really good so far too.

[AirTupac]

Ingram and D'Angelo offer more than anyone on Nuggets. Nuggets have been forever scrubs.

Randle
Nance
Ivica
D'Angelo
Clarkson
Ingram

Fk this is gonna be easy.

Scrubiay is 6/24 this pre season. He's a stud. Not even close to D'Angelo

[NuggetsFan]

Ingram and D'Angelo offer more than anyone on Nuggets. Nuggets have been forever scrubs.

Randle
Nance
Ivica
D'Angelo
Clarkson
Ingram

Fk this is gonna be easy.

Scrubiay is 6/24 this pre season. He's a stud. Not even close to D'Angelo

Jokic
Nurkic
Murray
Mudiay
Hernangomez
Beasley
Harris

Clarkson and Nance are what like 23-24? Barton is only 25 guess we can include him. Nuggets won 33 games starting "Scrubiay", Jokic, Harris, L.A won what like 17 with there youth? :oldlol: . Your ripping on Mudiay when Ingram looks more raw than Mudiay ever did at any point. Ingram should only play like 20 MPG this year. Ingram has the most potential of anybody probably tho. Just like Mudiay is fine. Both so young yet to be decided.

Denver wins brah. Not even that close.

[NuggetsFan]

Mudiay looking real good right now as you troll tho. Some great finishes + some nice looking dimes. Not as good as Russell. Denver doesn't need him to be tho, and we didn't draft him 2nd overall either :confusedshrug:

[AirTupac]

Half of the people you listed are nobodies lmao.

Clarkson is better than most of the people on the list. Nance is 22 relax buddy. He looks like a stud. Ivica is 18, Ingram is 19, D'Angelo is 20.


Ya omg you won more games last year with Kobe ISO show and Byron Scott. You guys must be SO proud lmfao.

[NuggetsFan]

Half of the people you listed are nobodies lmao.

Clarkson is better than most of the people on the list. Nance is 22 relax buddy. He looks like a stud. Ivica is 18, Ingram is 19, D'Angelo is 20.


Ya omg you won more games last year with Kobe ISO show and Byron Scott. You guys must be SO proud lmfao.

Nobody's yet you list Ivica? Dude can't even get off the bench in preseason and is a 2nd round pick but Murray and Beasley being 1st rounders who've showed promise early are nothing? Hernangomez is nothing? Cornelie is Denver's Ivica who I didn't both listed. Jokic finished higher than Russell in ROY voting :oldlol: Nurkic/Harris are pretty established. Larry Nance is 23. You don't even know how old your own players are :oldlol: Clarkson is 24 who you listed. Barton 25.

Nuggets have won something like 12 of the last 14 against L.A or something absurd like that. We have more "young" core pieces. Ingram and Russell have arguably higher ceilings but kinda hard to argue that after what Jokic has done so far.

[NuggetsFan]

Mudiay having a great 2nd quarter here. He's better than Russell as a floor general and more potential defensively. Russell is just on another planet as a scorer/shooter. With all the talent we have Mudiay doesn't need to be better. Just needs to be more efficient.

16/0/0 as a 2nd overall pick vs 12/2/3 7th overall. 2 steals each. Mudiay with 2 extra turnovers trying to force things as a playmaker vs scorer. Your troll attempt backfired before half time :oldlol:

[Bosnian Sajo]

I always told all those Nuggets fans that Nurkic >> Jokic, so far he has outplayed him this preseason.

Jokic out today, but look for Nurkic to be your main guy once the reg season rolls by.


Lakers playing really well, good team ball :cheers:

[NuggetsFan]

I always told all those Nuggets fans that Nurkic >> Jokic, so far he has outplayed him this preseason.

Jokic out today, but look for Nurkic to be your main guy once the reg season rolls by.


Lakers playing really well, good team ball :cheers:

Nurkic is great but Jokic is the much smoother offensive player. Jokic has 3 point range, a potential midrange J, and is still pretty slick in the post. One of the better passers I've seen as a big men too. His passing league wide is up there for big men. Had that 9 dime game last year. Just watch that USA vs Seriba Olympic game. Nurkic still rushes things offensively and his touch around the hoop isn't as great as Jokic.

Who knows tho. Maybe it happens. Nurkic is more aggressive. Has a shoot first mentality. Don't really care who ends up better because if there that close than Denver is going to be real good.

[NuggetsFan]

All trolling aside Russell has looked really great these past 2 games. His jumper is silky. Hope Murray can develop that kinda J.

[Bosnian Sajo]

I don't think Jokic has a "smoother" offensive game, Nurkic put shots up at high efficiency (80% tonight, for example) and is a better rebounder. I wouldn't talk about Jokic being a 3pt shooter considering he only hit 28 last season, maybe now with Nurkic as the post playing big Nikola can be a stretch 4.


When it comes to each teams main players, our guys have been more eye appealing these past two games compared to Nuggets players. Julius, JC, and Russell are offensive threats every time down the floor. Ingram needs to wake up and jack shots up, he is being waaayyy too passive.

Julius has looked MUCH more controlled on the fast break, he used to be like a chicken with no head.

[sammichoffate]

Mozgov is fking trash omg, give Zubac the starting job already

[NuggetsFan]

I don't think Jokic has a "smoother" offensive game, Nurkic put shots up at high efficiency (80% tonight, for example) and is a better rebounder. I wouldn't talk about Jokic being a 3pt shooter considering he only hit 28 last season, maybe now with Nurkic as the post playing big Nikola can be a stretch 4.


When it comes to each teams main players, our guys have been more eye appealing these past two games compared to Nuggets players. Julius, JC, and Russell are offensive threats every time down the floor. Ingram needs to wake up and jack shots up, he is being waaayyy too passive.

Julius has looked MUCH more controlled on the fast break, he used to be like a chicken with no head.

Yeah in the preseason. Look at what they've done in there careers. Jokic hit 28 3's as a rookie big man in 21 MPG. .6 3's per 36. It looked improved in the Olympics as well. He's a C/PF because of Nurkic so he's never going to be Dirk but he has the range which Nurkic doesn't. Jokic is smoother. No Nugget fan will tell you differently. Nurkic can be more dominant tho because he's a bully inside and aggressive. Jokic is a special passer too. Threads some ridiculous passes. Nurkic has the better mindset. He just goes at teams. 13/9 at half.

Disagree. I think Russell looking better than Mudiay is really the only advantage. Nurkic/Jokic looked better than Randle. Murray looked better than Ingram. Clarkson is like 24 so compare him to Barton not the "young guys" IMO. I mean Ingram is clearly better and has waaaay more potential but Hernangomez has looked better tonight. 5/6 vs not showing up. Ingram has one bucket on a fast break that was clearly a foul and he made the circus shot. I mean M.Beasley has looked better than Ingram so far. Preseason can be kinda useless.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Swaggy P found his range again. If he can keep this up going into the season, I hope he gets minutes off the bench. He's not making stupid plays.

[AirTupac]

4/10 12 points

vs 8/13 for 21 points

lolol

[Bosnian Sajo]

Julius Randle :applause:


Dude's everywhere.

[AirTupac]

Randle definitely looks better. Finally seems to understand something about the game instead of just running into everyone.

[sammichoffate]

Julius Randle :applause:


Dude's everywhere.He needs to workout with Zach Randolph in the offseason

[NuggetsFan]

4/10 12 points

vs 8/13 for 21 points

lolol

Nurkic making both look silly :lol looking as good as he ever has. This was the Nurkic we wanted last year but health wasn't there.

[AirTupac]

Nurkic making both look silly :lol looking as good as he ever has. This was the Nurkic we wanted last year but health wasn't there.

Nurkic is a better C than Jokic. I didnt get the hype of Jokic last season and how Nug fans brushed Nurkic aside. Nurkic is a big boy with skill.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Ingram so far in the purple and gold has looked nothing like his college self...I hope he doesn't bust.

[Bosnian Sajo]

It's like he doesn't give af, he's walking around like he's high.

[nevetslc88]

Ingram so far in the purple and gold has looked nothing like his college self...I hope he doesn't bust.

sounds kinda like what people were saying about D'angelo Russell.

dude just turned 19 last month

[Bosnian Sajo]

sounds kinda like what people were saying about D'angelo Russell.

dude just turned 19 last month

You right, but that was with Byron Scott at the helm. Ingram should at LEAST be moving around...he legit just stands in the corner.

[$LakerGold]

This rim is killing me.

[Bosnian Sajo]

This rim is killing me.


CLANK!!

[$LakerGold]

You right, but that was with Byron Scott at the helm. Ingram should at LEAST be moving around...he legit just stands in the corner.
I agree with this, they don't call enough plays for him. It's preseason, let the guy play around. Last 20 seconds of the 3rd, it was all Calderon hogging the ball while Ingram just stood in the corner.

[Milbuck]

Varies from fan to fan, but I think as a whole Laker fans overrate Ingram and underrate Russell. I think Russell has top 5 in the league potential, but I think Ingram's going to disappoint for his carer. Won't be a complete bust, but will disappoint imo. Russell will be a monster though, I get a Steph/Harden hybrid vibe from him.

[$LakerGold]

Varies from fan to fan, but I think as a whole Laker fans overrate Ingram and underrate Russell. I think Russell has top 5 in the league potential, but I think Ingram's going to disappoint for his carer. Won't be a complete bust, but will disappoint imo. Russell will be a monster though, I get a Steph/Harden hybrid vibe from him.
Most of the Laker fans I know had high hopes for D'Lo last season.

[NuggetsFan]

Nurkic is a better C than Jokic. I didnt get the hype of Jokic last season and how Nug fans brushed Nurkic aside. Nurkic is a big boy with skill.

Nobody brushed Nurkic aside. He still could be better. Obviously both are young and Nurk has the better mindset and is more aggressive. Jokic just has insane passing skills, 3 pt range, a capable jumper, good rebounding, and good himself inside. Nurkic looks as great as he ever has right now so we'll see. So far in his career he's been known to rush his offense which is why he's been so inefficient early in his career.

I mean Jokic finished what 3rd in ROY voting despite not getting good run at the start of the season. His advanced numbers were off the charts. I hope Nurkic can be better because it'd leave Denver in a great situation.

[AirTupac]

Thats why I was so confident making all those D'Angelo threads. Dude is gonna be a bonafide star for us.

[raprap]

D'Alpha is the real deal. Been a believer since day 1 :rockon:

[Milbuck]

Most of the Laker fans I know had high hopes for D'Lo last season.
Idk. There were quite a few anti-Russell Laker fans on here last year, and when I checked out LakersGround there was a lot of them there as well.

I'm sure a lot has changed since then and is continuing to change, but in general I feel Ingram has gotten a much nicer reception than Russell.

[$LakerGold]

Where the **** is the scoreboard? rofl

[AirTupac]

Idk. There were quite a few anti-Russell Laker fans on here last year, and when I checked out LakersGround there was a lot of them there as well.

I'm sure a lot has changed since then and is continuing to change, but in general I feel Ingram has gotten a much nicer reception than Russell.

Yes. D'Angelo was judged way more harshly. Mostly cause there was a large group of people trying to say Okafor > D'Angelo and that the Lakers were retards for making the pick.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Idk. There were quite a few anti-Russell Laker fans on here last year, and when I checked out LakersGround there was a lot of them there as well.

I'm sure a lot has changed since then and is continuing to change, but in general I feel Ingram has gotten a much nicer reception than Russell.


Not anti-Russell, most were just criticizing him or overreacting. I always held him high, he's obviously the most skilled player on the team.

[kurple]

4/10 12 points

vs 8/13 for 21 points

lolol
0 rebounds 1 assists

[kurple]

AirTupac literally thinks scoring is the only aspect
of the game that matters

[Bosnian Sajo]

SIXTH MAN LIKE ??? ???? :oldlol:

[sammichoffate]

When Lou Williams gets hot, he gets HOT

[Bosnian Sajo]

Early predictions on the 5 players who are gonna get cut?

Metta
Wear
Jacobs
Auguste (sadly)
Robinson

[Bosnian Sajo]

Why is Robinson our big when going small? It should be Zubac or Mozgov.

[AirTupac]

D'Angelo drops 27 with a Lakers win. Mudiay 5/13 leading the Nuggets to a loss.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Nick Young :applause:


He's back, ladies and gentlemen. Thank GOD he got rid of that cancer, Iggy.

[AirTupac]

Oh sorry

D'Angelo with 27/5/3 on 11/17 shooting leading the Lakers to a win. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[AirTupac]

Clarkson > Barton
D'Angelo >>> Murray + Mudiay combined
Ingram > Those irrelevant scrubs Beasley? Idk LOL
Randle > Jokic

[AirTupac]

D'Angelo with 30/5/3 bu bu bu empty stats bu bu bu Lakers lost

[$LakerGold]

AirTupac, you have no chill rofl.

D'Lo making it happen late in the 4th.

[AirTupac]

O wait 33/5/3

Mudiay LMFAO
Nuggets LOL sick loss. Much better future buds.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Shout out to Nurkic, bright spot on the Nuggets team. 21/16/3 for the big man.


DLOW with the GHIGH 33 thoooooooo :eek:


Julius Randle as well, 16/4/5.

Swaggy 14 on 63%

Lou Wills 25 :applause:

[Spurs m8]

I look forward to December when Laker fans have given up.

[nevetslc88]

really like Jusuf Nurkic game.

doesn't really force anything keeps it simple and gets it done.

[NuggetsFan]

O wait 33/5/3

Mudiay LMFAO
Nuggets LOL sick loss. Much better future buds.

Nuggets won 33 games last year. L.A 17. We started just as many young guys as L.A did. We have more young players than L.A does. Nuggets will win more games this season and you'll be nowhere to be found. You want to bet on who wins more games this season? seeing as how your probably the only one who cares enough to troll the Nuggets :oldlol:

Nurkic
Jokic/Hernangomez
Barton
Harris/Beasley
Mudiay/Murray

That's 25 and under :lol not including Gallo, Chandler, Faried, draft picks, cap space. Nuggets future is bright. Russell looked amazing. Hope he breaks out. I think Murray can potentially be a poor man's Russell or similar to that kinda player. Great shooter/scorer, not an athletic freak etc. Wouldn't switch places with L.A tho, especially after the Deng/Mozzy contracts. You have Russell/Ingram everything else is a shot in the dark. It's early as can be but Ingram for example looks miles behind Russell/Mudiay did last year. I was as high on him as anybody but didn't see him looking so lost this early. Guess we'll see how things shake out.

[$LakerGold]

Nuggets won 33 games last year. L.A 17. We started just as many young guys as L.A did. We have more young players than L.A does. Nuggets will win more games this season and you'll be nowhere to be found. You want to bet on who wins more games this season? seeing as how your probably the only one who cares enough to troll the Nuggets :oldlol:

Nurkic
Jokic/Hernangomez
Barton
Harris/Beasley
Mudiay/Murray

That's 25 and under :lol not including Gallo, Chandler, Faried, draft picks, cap space. Nuggets future is bright. Russell looked amazing. Hope he breaks out. I think Murray can potentially be a poor man's Russell or similar to that kinda player. Great shooter/scorer, not an athletic freak etc. Wouldn't switch places with L.A tho, especially after the Deng/Mozzy contracts. You have Russell/Ingram everything else is a shot in the dark. It's early as can be but Ingram for example looks miles behind Russell/Mudiay did last year. I was as high on him as anybody but didn't see him looking so lost this early. Guess we'll see how things shake out.

You do realize that they can get rid of those contracts? :lol The chances are slim, but it's possible. And plus, they're filled with a promising young core, they don't need to spend big $$$ for a superstar anymore. D'Lo, JC, Ingram & Randle. But I guess a solid bigman for big $$$ would be nice? But who's available out there? Assuming guys like KAT, Porzingis. etc. are re-signing with their current team after their rookie contract.

I'd rather wait & see how this young core develops than signing KD or PG who are nearly in their 30s (or any star who's 27+).

[NuggetsFan]

You do realize that they can get rid of those contracts? :lol The chances are slim, but it's possible. And plus, they're filled with a promising young core, they don't need to spend big $$$ for a superstar anymore. D'Lo, JC, Ingram & Randle. But I guess a solid bigman for big $$$ would be nice? But who's available out there? Assuming guys like KAT, Porzingis. etc. are re-signing with their current team after their rookie contract.

I'd rather wait & see how this young core develops than signing KD or PG who are nearly in their 30s (or any star who's 27+).

Yeah I just don't like those deals at all. I would have waited. If Russell breaks out this year who knows what that extra cash does. I don't think I'm being unreasonable when I say those were bad deals, Mozzy obviously far more so.

KD/George I feel would have been great signings. Your young core really exists of Ingram/Russell. Lance is 23 and projects as a starter best case, or realistically a solid bench player. Clarkson is 24 and already becoming a 6th man vs a guy who got tons of usage on teams winning sub 20 games. I don't really like Randle all that much personally. Russell/Ingram/KG or George is better than your young core right now and for the future. Paul George is 26.

To each his own. Time will tell. Minny #1 followed by Philly/PHX/Denver than L.A is how I see the "young" cores. Utah not included because there a little further down the road in there rebuild.

[$LakerGold]

I do not like the deals either, it's terrible, I wish they didn't sign him but it happened. As for re-signing rookies after their first contract, don't they have the bird rights to re-sign the rookies regardless if they went over the cap? Assuming the Lakers accepts 2 yrs. of his Team Option, & plus the cap increasing every year.

So, let's be real, it takes about 3-5 or 6 years (dead years or for team development) before the Lakers are back to contention if everything goes as planned. Now imagine having a Paul George or a KD who are in their mid-late 20's who will be then in their early 30's by the time the Lakers are ready to settle, then you're left with 2-3 yrs. of window of opportunity for Paul George or Kevin Durant to play at a high level.

But I hope I'm wrong, at this state, I hope the Lakers will make the playoffs just for playoffs experience alone, no high expectations.

[NuggetsFan]

I do not like the deals either, it's terrible, I wish they didn't sign him but it happened. As for re-signing rookies after their first contract, don't they have the bird rights to re-sign the rookies regardless if they went over the cap? Assuming the Lakers accepts 2 yrs. of his Team Option, & plus the cap increasing every year.

So, let's be real, it takes about 3-5 or 6 years (dead years or for team development) before the Lakers are back to contention if everything goes as planned. Now imagine having a Paul George or a KD who are in their mid-late 20's who will be then in their early 30's by the time the Lakers are ready to settle, then you're left with 2-3 yrs. of window of opportunity for Paul George or Kevin Durant to play at a high level.

But I hope I'm wrong, at this state, I hope the Lakers will make the playoffs just for playoffs experience alone, no high expectations.

Yeah fair enough. I just don't think you pass up the chance to grab a 26 year old George or sign KD for what the Lakers currently have. Obviously that doesn't seem like that was even a realistic option for L.A so guess it doesn't matter in the long run anyways.

We'll see how the season goes. Maybe the Lakers surprise me.

[$LakerGold]

Yeah fair enough. I just don't think you pass up the chance to grab a 26 year old George or sign KD for what the Lakers currently have. Obviously that doesn't seem like that was even a realistic option for L.A so guess it doesn't matter in the long run anyways.

We'll see how the season goes. Maybe the Lakers surprise me.
You never really know unless you let the young core develop, no one really knows what their ceiling is playing together yet, we only have a clue at this state.

[AirTupac]

AirTupac literally thinks scoring is the only aspect
of the game that matters

Dropping 33/5/3 with a win matters you stupid idiot :roll: :roll:

[Ai2death]

I look forward to December when Laker fans have given up.

You reckon they'll make it that far?

[Ai2death]

Dropping 33/5/3 with a win matters you stupid idiot :roll: :roll:

Wins in the preseason don't matter... at all.

[AirTupac]

Wins in the preseason don't matter... at all.

Replying to the Nug fans who were bragging D'Angelo dropped empty stats with a loss last game idiot. Shut up boy.

[tamaraw08]

Quote:
Originally Posted by kurple

AirTupac literally thinks scoring is the only aspect
of the game that matters




Dropping 33/5/3 with a win matters you stupid idiot :roll: :roll:

I think what Kurple was saying is that shooting great doesn't mean that a player played an excellent all around game.

Russell played 32 minutes and only had 3 assists and 2 turnovers. And it's not like he completely shut down Mudiay either. Yes, Emmanuel continued to brick his perimeter shots but still, He was able to attack the basket and Russell had to be pulled out due to foul trouble with 5 fouls.
With D'Angelo committing 11 turnovers in 3 games, while Calderon still have yet to commit a turnover in 3 games, I wonder if Luke would consider putting Russell at SG with Jose playing PG. :pimp: I mean D'Angelo is proving to be such a very good shooter....

[AirTupac]

Quote:
Originally Posted by kurple





I think what Kurple was saying is that shooting great doesn't mean that a player played an excellent all around game.

Russell played 32 minutes and only had 3 assists and 2 turnovers. And it's not like he completely shut down Mudiay either. Yes, Emmanuel continued to brick his perimeter shots but still, He was able to attack the basket and Russell had to be pulled out due to foul trouble with 5 fouls.
With D'Angelo committing 11 turnovers in 3 games, while Calderon still have yet to commit a turnover in 3 games, I wonder if Luke would consider putting Russell at SG with Jose playing PG. :pimp: I mean D'Angelo is proving to be such a very good shooter....

I didnt realize that dropping 33/5/3 ON FANTASTIC SHOOTING PERCENTAGES can in ANY REALITY be considered to not be an excellent game.

[tamaraw08]

I didnt realize that dropping 33/5/3 ON FANTASTIC SHOOTING PERCENTAGES can in ANY REALITY be considered to not be an excellent game.

Excellent shooting night yes, Excellent ALL AROUND game? I don't think so.
If he dropped 9 assist and not 3 with 2 turnovers instead, and he grabbed 8 rebs plus holding Mudiay under 10 pts in 14 shots then yes Russell had an immaculate excellent game.
Look, I am a Lakers fan too, I am hoping and praying that he can sustain his great shooting and cut down his turnovers all year.
At this point in time, he needs to learn how to take care of the ball better like Calderon and at the same time learn from Huertas in spotting open teammates.

[AirTupac]

Considering he was taking what the defense gave him and that he played 31 minutes. Im sorry to say buddy, he had an excellent game.

[tamaraw08]

Considering he was taking what the defense gave him and that he played 31 minutes. Im sorry to say buddy, he had an excellent game.

No need to feel sorry man, it's all good. :cheers: btw, would you consider visiting the Lakers board? You, swish and other fellow Lakers fans etc.
It's like a freaking morgue there. :(

[SwayDizzle]

we lookin so fresh these days. league is shoock

[AirBonner]

we lookin so fresh these days. league is shoock
No one is shook. Except the lakers come December :lol