Hassan Whiteside Is Going To Feast This Year [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

Smoke117

10-11-2016, 10:50 PM

He doesn't play like Camby.

He's a knicks fan...what do you expect? Anyone who thinks Whiteside and Camby are anything alike offensively pretty much has no idea what he is talking about. Camby was never an imposing player around the rim like Whiteside.

Jasper

10-11-2016, 11:05 PM

great numbers on 33 win team = :rolleyes:

Paul George 24

10-11-2016, 11:10 PM

Limited on offense and can't pass to save his life. Marcus camby 2.0
NYK SUCKS:lol

MellowYellow

10-12-2016, 01:17 AM

NYK SUCKS:lol
Bet they get more wins than the pacers

G-train

10-12-2016, 01:20 AM

Bet they get more wins than the pacers

They'll probably both get about 30-35

LostCause

10-12-2016, 01:42 AM

Really needs to work on his stamina. Dude has yet to play over 30 minutes a night

Human Error

10-12-2016, 02:22 AM

Limited on offense and can't pass to save his life. Marcus camby 2.0
Whiteside plays nothing like Camby. Very very stupid dumb freaking analysis. What would I expect from an idiot who thinks Carmelo Anthony is better than Kevin Durant?

MellowYellow

10-12-2016, 02:46 AM

Whiteside plays nothing like Camby. Very very stupid dumb freaking analysis. What would I expect from an idiot who thinks Carmelo Anthony is better than Kevin Durant?
numbers suggest otherwise. They are the same type of dude regardless of how they play. 10-15 ppg 10-12 reb 2.5-4 blks a game. Whiteside is a little more efficient thats why hes 2.0

Smoke117

10-12-2016, 02:52 AM

numbers suggest otherwise. They are the same type of dude regardless of how they play. 10-15 ppg 10-12 reb 2.5-4 blks a game. Whiteside is a little more efficient thats why hes 2.0

Are you just going out of your way to say stupid shit now? Whiteside shot 60%+ these last two seasons...Camby only shot over 50% three times during his entire career. If he wasn't grabbing offensive rebounds for put backs...Camby was basically a guy taking jump shots. He was more of a 4 than a 5 while Whiteside is a legit old school center who makes his living in the paint. A lot of you guys want to think Whiteside is Deandre Jordan...he's already shown his offense is way more advanced than his.

Papaya Petee

10-12-2016, 10:57 AM

Ignoring MellowYellow's garbage, I agree.
I made a bet with a friend that he will easily score over 20 PPG given the touches he will get.

I predict about 22\14\3 on 56% from the field.

swagga

10-12-2016, 01:48 PM

Ignoring MellowYellow's garbage, I agree.
I made a bet with a friend that he will easily score over 20 PPG given the touches he will get.

I predict about 22\14\3 on 56% from the field.

easy no.

Bankaii

10-12-2016, 01:59 PM

They'll probably both get about 30-35
No way you really believe this:biggums:

r0drig0lac

10-12-2016, 02:10 PM

Wiltside!

PJR

10-12-2016, 03:19 PM

No way you really believe this:biggums:

Off the backs of Whiteside's lane intimidation and defensive rebounding, and Justise Winslow, the Heat are going to be a top 12 defense at worst. That alone is worth 30 wins in the NBA. If you think the Heat are gonna be league worst bad, you'll be wrong.

Papaya Petee

10-12-2016, 05:06 PM

easy no.
easy yes. Watch this man dominate this year.

aj1987

10-12-2016, 05:09 PM

easy yes. Watch this man dominate this year.
The only thing that concerns me is his health. I'm not sure he'll last, if the Heat actually do play a fast paced uptempo brand of basketball.

GrapeApe

10-12-2016, 05:19 PM

Off the backs of Whiteside's lane intimidation and defensive rebounding, and Justise Winslow, the Heat are going to be a top 12 defense at worst. That alone is worth 30 wins in the NBA. If you think the Heat are gonna be league worst bad, you'll be wrong.

I think he meant that the Pacers will have a better record than the Heat.

I agree with you though in regards to the Heat's defense. With Winslow and J-Rich on the perimeter and Whiteside controlling the paint, we have a chance to be really good on that end. Defense needs to be our identity. If the Heat can defend at a high level they'll be competitive in most of their games.

I expect Whiteside to be an all-star and DPOY candidate. With heavier minutes and a larger, possibly featured role, I think 20/14/4 is certainly within reason. The other other side of the coin is that teams will be game-planning to stop him. We'll have to see how he responds to getting more defensive attention. He's also going to miss the feeds from Wade. Wade had a great knack for getting Whiteside the ball in a position to score. Overall I think he'll adjust and have his best season to date.

Oh, and as aj mentioned, health is a bit of a concern too. Hopefully he won't break down and he'll be able to withstand the heavier minutes.

Spurs m8

10-12-2016, 05:39 PM

lol such an overrated player.

Will not feast.

G-train

10-12-2016, 05:45 PM

I expect Whiteside to replicate last seasons numbers with more games missed.

G-train

10-12-2016, 05:51 PM

No way you really believe this:biggums:

Yer IND and NY are both terrible. Maybe 4 years ago they would make playoffs.
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if Brooklyn wins more than the Knicks.
At least they have modern coaching, selfless players that are playing at a fast pace, and constructed with role players that play properly. Knicks are a mess.
But I have the Knicks at 33 wins and Brooklyn at 29.
Pacers 35.

Smoke117

10-12-2016, 05:55 PM

The heat were 9th in defense last year and shouldn't fall at all. If anything they could get better. Wade was great defensively in the playoffs, but he coasted big time during the season and was average at best. Deng is also gone and while decent...he had definitely fallen off from his best in that regard. With Winslow and Richardson playing many more minutes and Whiteside probably playing between 30-35 this season...they are more likely to get better than worse defensively.

MellowYellow

10-12-2016, 07:34 PM

Yer IND and NY are both terrible. Maybe 4 years ago they would make playoffs.
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if Brooklyn wins more than the Knicks.
At least they have modern coaching, selfless players that are playing at a fast pace, and constructed with role players that play properly. Knicks are a mess.
But I have the Knicks at 33 wins and Brooklyn at 29.
Pacers 35.
You can have my soul if the Knicks win less than 35 games

plowking

10-12-2016, 09:44 PM

Ignoring MellowYellow's garbage, I agree.
I made a bet with a friend that he will easily score over 20 PPG given the touches he will get.

I predict about 22\14\3 on 56% from the field.

So you think he will put up better numbers than prime Dwight Howard?

Papaya Petee

10-12-2016, 09:50 PM

So you think he will put up better numbers than prime Dwight Howard?
Dwight Howard was around 23\14 and 21\15 in his prime so more or less the same.

Except I see the Heat winning 30 games while Dwight was winning 50-60 games per year.

Whiteside will be fed the ball more than Dwight in his prime because Whiteside has a very young and below average team around him. Dwight had to share the ball with a very good supporting cast.

So yeah, call the numbers "empty" if you want. But, Whiteside will feast.

Dray n Klay

10-12-2016, 09:55 PM

Papaya Petee

10-12-2016, 10:00 PM

Hassan Whiteside will do better this season as he doesn't have Wade clogging up and lanes and ruining the spacing on offense.

Furthermore, the offense will solely run through Dragic who is a more natural playmaker than Wade.
Yep, thats the smartest thing you've ever said!!
Because when Hassan Whiteside was operating in the post last year Wade was sitting in the post clogging up the space and lanes for Whiteside.

When our center was posting up our shooting guard stood in the lane and kept running into him!

Yep, also Dragic is a more natural playmaker than Wade! The guy who can't beat anyone off the dribble and has a much lower career APG than Wade in the regular season and a whooping 3 APG average in the playoffs is a better playmaker than Wade. Must be why Miami always had Wade handling the ball down the stretch in close games. Our coaches know nothing but Dray and Klay knows better :roll:

plowking

10-12-2016, 10:09 PM

Dwight Howard was around 23\14 and 21\15 in his prime so more or less the same.

Except I see the Heat winning 30 games while Dwight was winning 50-60 games per year.

Whiteside will be fed the ball more than Dwight in his prime because Whiteside has a very young and below average team around him. Dwight had to share the ball with a very good supporting cast.

So yeah, call the numbers "empty" if you want. But, Whiteside will feast.

I don't see him putting up more the 20ppg.

Maybe an 18/11 season, and I think this season will be the best of his career numbers wise, even after this season. He may get better as a player after, but I think this will be his peak statistically.

Smoke117

10-12-2016, 10:12 PM

Nobody cares what you think plowtard...you think Garnett isn't even a top 30 player of all time...your opinion is ****ing worthless.

Dray n Klay

10-12-2016, 10:13 PM

Yep, thats the smartest thing you've ever said!!
Because when Hassan Whiteside was operating in the post last year Wade was sitting in the post clogging up the space and lanes for Whiteside.

When our center was posting up our shooting guard stood in the lane and kept running into him!

Yep, also Dragic is a more natural playmaker than Wade! The guy who can't beat anyone off the dribble and has a much lower career APG than Wade in the regular season and a whooping 3 APG average in the playoffs is a better playmaker than Wade. Must be why Miami always had Wade handling the ball down the stretch in close games. Our coaches know nothing but Dray and Klay knows better :roll:

Bro, you can't even admit that Wade is not a natural 3 point shooter and clogs the lane on offense?

Why do you think Bosh started shooting 3 pointers when he joined Wade?

Why do you think Dragic had problems adjusting to Wade's ball-dominance when he joined Miami?

:confusedshrug:

HenryGarfunkle

10-12-2016, 10:16 PM

Nobody cares what you think plowtard...you think Garnett isn't even a top 30 player of all time...your opinion is ****ing worthless.
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Dray n Klay

10-12-2016, 10:18 PM

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Smoke117

10-12-2016, 10:18 PM

I don't need to be drunk to tell plowking he is a moron...his posts make that pretty evident on their own.

Besides being shitfaced is not "melting down"...it's just being shitfaced.

tpols

10-12-2016, 10:21 PM

:roll:

plowking

10-12-2016, 10:22 PM

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Smoke117

10-12-2016, 10:26 PM

Stick to surfing and rugby homeboy...things Aussies actually know about.

GrapeApe

10-12-2016, 10:27 PM

Bro, you can't even admit that Wade is not a natural 3 point shooter and clogs the lane on offense?

Why do you think Bosh started shooting 3 pointers when he joined Wade?

Why do you think Dragic had problems adjusting to Wade's ball-dominance when he joined Miami?

:confusedshrug:

We all know that Wade doesn't shoot many 3's, but his gravity is among the best in the league. This has been proven and is well documented. Defenders shadow him the same way they shadow elite 3 point shooters. The spacing issue is a complete myth.

Wade's ball dominance was in large part because he was much better than Dragic at creating in the half court. When Lebron was in Miami, Wade made himself into one of the deadliest off ball players in the league. He could afford to play off the ball because Lebron was a good playmaker. Dragic struggled to consistently break down the defense, which forced the ball back into Wade's hands.

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10-12-2016, 10:28 PM

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10-12-2016, 10:34 PM

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Papaya Petee

10-13-2016, 11:29 AM

I don't see him putting up more the 20ppg.

Maybe an 18/11 season, and I think this season will be the best of his career numbers wise, even after this season. He may get better as a player after, but I think this will be his peak statistically.

First off, not even responding to Dray n Klay because well no need.

I'm also being highly optimistic. I just see the crazy potential in him if he doesn't become a bigger headcase than he already is. He's super athletic, has a good first step and has good touch around the rim. Another big role on his PPG total will be how much he improves his free throw shooting.

On a side note, I predict Josh Richardson to score around 12 a game, with Tyler Johnson and Winslow right about 10 PPG.

swagga

10-13-2016, 12:17 PM

First off, not even responding to Dray n Klay because well no need.

I'm also being highly optimistic. I just see the crazy potential in him if he doesn't become a bigger headcase than he already is. He's super athletic, has a good first step and has good touch around the rim. Another big role on his PPG total will be how much he improves his free throw shooting.

On a side note, I predict Josh Richardson to score around 12 a game, with Tyler Johnson and Winslow right about 10 PPG.

I said easy no because there is no way that he is putting 22 a game on more than 50% on that team. Bad spacing, short bench, even if they force feed him the ball he'll get double'd a lot and he'll also get into foul trouble because he doesn't have the most polish/iq in his post game. Given that he is also miami's defensive anchor I just don't see him going against many double teams in order to keep him on the floor.

While you see the potential in whiteside (we all see it) I also see a dude with a short temper, not a lot of iq, who doesn't show a lot patience and who'll get his head above the clouds now that it's his team. These are all huge red flags tbh.

So yes, I'm saying it again, he will easily fail 22 ppg @ 55%fg .. probably a 17/18 @55%... 22 is just crazy imo.

TemporaMutantur

10-13-2016, 01:46 PM

Bet they get more wins than the pacers

Bro, the Pacers look pretty nice, certainly nicer than the Knicks.

swagga

10-13-2016, 03:45 PM

Bro, the Pacers look pretty nice, certainly nicer than the Knicks.

the pacers are obviously in a much better position than the knicks .. top to bottom they have more talent, more health, more depth, people playing both sides of the ball, a better future, better fans, better owner, better coach, you name it they have it better.