This election is huge. WAR promised by Putin and Hillary

[poido123]

Putin has stated that he will go to war with the US if they vote Hillary.


Hillary has stated that she will avenge Putin's 'interference' with the hacking.



The vote is obvious. We are not talking about petty lewd comments here. We are talking NUCLEAR WAR.


If that happens, it's not out of the realm of possibility that you fighting aged men will have to conscript.

[kurple]

Russia is more active now than during the cold war, and you want to elect the man Putin wants to win?

Putin is playing chess while America play checkers.

I would have more faith in Hillary

[dude77]

Russia is more active now than during the cold war, and you want to elect the man Putin wants to win?

Putin is playing chess while America play checkers.

I would have more faith in Hillary

maybe ol putin doesn't want war and knows this sick **** and her globalist masters are going to push the issue

[kurple]

maybe ol putin doesn't want war and knows this sick **** and her globalist masters are going to push the issue
Yah.... No

[dude77]

Yah.... No

so you think hillary wants peace and no conflict ? :facepalm

[fiddy]

and you want to elect the man Putin wants to win?

Russia has zero influence over the clown, you are being influenced by the MSM

[Velocirap31]

You all better do what Russia wants then.

[Draz]

How powerful is Russia anyways? What's the 411

[UK2K]

Russia is more active now than during the cold war, and you want to elect the man Putin wants to win?

Putin is playing chess while America play checkers.

I would have more faith in Hillary

Ha, every reason you have to vote against Trump... is ironic given these latest email leaks...

'Trump likes Putin, he's evil'

Meanwhile, Clinton is a fan and you don't care...


Clinton, the Democratic presidential nominee, called Putin “engaging” and said he was a “very interesting conversationalist” in some of those speech excerpts, which were revealed when WikiLeaks began releasing alleged emails belonging to Clinton Campaign Chairman John Podesta.

“I would love it if we could continue to build a more positive relationship with Russia,” Clinton said during a speech to Goldman Sachs on June 4, 2013. In the same speech, Clinton said “obviously we would very much like to have a positive relationship with Russia and we would like to see Putin be less defensive toward a relationship with the United States so that we could work together on some issues.”

Hey, ^that^ line was almost identical to what Clinton is now trying to bash Trump for. Now you have to find yet another excuse to vote against Trump. Good luck!

[fiddy]

How powerful is Russia anyways? What's the 411
Officially their biggest nuke is 4x stronger than any american nuke.

[Draz]

Officially their biggest nuke is 4x stronger than any american nuke.
Source? :biggums:

[fiddy]

Source? :biggums:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ICBMs

SS18 can carry up to equivalent of 20 mt TNT in warheads.

While, this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UGM-133_Trident_II can carry up to 6.6 MT TNT equivalent warheads.

Gotta get a Putin tattoo if he lands several of those babies in Turkey

[UK2K]

Officially their biggest nuke is 4x stronger than any american nuke.

Doesn't matter if it was 100x more powerful...

All it takes is one and then the world will end.

[fiddy]

Doesn't matter if it was 100x more powerful...

All it takes is one and then the world will end.
Im ready to move on, id rather see big fireworks in Turkey then having to live with trannies, weabs, hipsters and homos.

[fiddy]

A thing of beauty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZZVRfjR5WY

[UK2K]

Im ready to move on, id rather see big fireworks in Turkey then having to live with trannies, weabs, hipsters and homos.

The middle east would be happy to have you...

You just need to convert to Islam. That's the only requirement.

[Draz]

Doesn't matter if it was 100x more powerful...

All it takes is one and then the world will end.
ONE?

[fiddy]

The middle east would be happy to have you...

You just need to convert to Islam. That's the only requirement.
Oops, omitted religious people.

[fiddy]

ONE?
Yes, because most likely it will be followed by many others.

[Draz]

Russia ranked world’s 2nd military power after U.S.
Russia has the world’s second most powerful military, according to the annual ranking made by Global Firepower, an analytical website exploring the military power of different countries.

The United States headed the list, while China was ranked third in the rating, which does not include nuclear weapons, only conventional ones.

While Russia surpasses the United States in the number of tanks – 15,000 versus 8,000 – the Russian air force lags behind the United States by the number of units – 3,547 versus 13,444.

In another study, financial analysts from Credit Suisse previously also ranked Russia second among the world’s armies. As with the Global Firepower ranking, Credit Suisse rating ranked the armies of the world depending on their military capabilities without nuclear weapons – but also excluded non-conventional weapons. The U.S., Russia and China were also ranked first, second and third.

At the end of 2015 the Congressional Research Service of the U.S. also released a report on the development of the market of conventional weapons in 2007-2014.

According to the report, Russia and the United States dominated the arms supply to developing countries, taking up first or second position depending on the year.

In total, the United States signed agreements to supply $115 billion worth of military hardware to developing countries during this period (46.3 percent of the total value of arms supplied to these nations), while Russia spent $41.7 billion (16.8 percent of the total).

Source (http://rbth.com/defence/2016/02/17/russia-ranked-worlds-2nd-military-power-after-us_568639)

Also

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=United-States-of-America&country2=Russia

For more reference

hmm

[UK2K]

ONE?

If Russia ever detonated a nuke on US soil, it'd be game over. It'd have to be that way, because if they actually fired a nuke at the US, it would be shot down within minutes.

But yeah, if a nuke ever went off in the US (and it could be easily traced), you could expect Russia to be wiped off the face of the earth. Of course, they wouldn't sit back and take that, so they'd start firing back....

And on and on.

[fiddy]

RuAF seems in a better place ATM. The only place they are behind is aircraft carriers and navy IMO.

[fiddy]

If Russia ever detonated a nuke on US soil, it'd be game over. It'd have to be that way, because if they actually fired a nuke at the US, it would be shot down within minutes.

But yeah, if a nuke ever went off in the US (and it could be easily traced), you could expect Russia to be wiped off the face of the earth. Of course, they wouldn't sit back and take that, so they'd start firing back....

And on and on.
Im not convinced the US is capable of taking down Russia's latest effort in ICBM.

[CeltsGarlic]

I legit believe war is more likely when/if Hilary wins. I have been reading about how she will make russia face war crimes committed in syria etc. She is John Kerry v.2

[Draz]

If Russia ever detonated a nuke on US soil, it'd be game over. It'd have to be that way, because if they actually fired a nuke at the US, it would be shot down within minutes.

But yeah, if a nuke ever went off in the US (and it could be easily traced), you could expect Russia to be wiped off the face of the earth. Of course, they wouldn't sit back and take that, so they'd start firing back....

And on and on.

Is that how much damage one nuke can do? The ENTIRE fcking country? WTF

And just how accurate are our anti defense systems that it'll shoot it down? df

This shit scary. Now I know why we spend so much on military budget

[fiddy]

Is that how much damage one nuke can do? The ENTIRE fcking country? WTF

And just how accurate are our anti defense systems that it'll shoot it down? df

This shit scary. Now I know why we spend so much on military budget
Lol no. The biggest nuke ever made (the Tsar bomb) was 50 MT in charge and could obliterate a big city like Paris and its vicinity. But thats not the point as the biggest nuke in Russia's arsenal is "only" 20 MT. The point UK2K made is that once the trigger is pulled on nukes, world superpowers will use many of them hence armageddon. That's why it only takes one, to start a chain reaction of nuking.

[FillJackson]

Putin has stated that he will go to war with the US if they vote Hillary.
You were celebrating Putin last week.

[CelticBaller]

Source (http://rbth.com/defence/2016/02/17/russia-ranked-worlds-2nd-military-power-after-us_568639)

Also

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=United-States-of-America&country2=Russia

For more reference

hmm
US has the strongest Navy in the world, that's all it needs


What's all those tanks good for if Russia has to travel by air or water to get to us? and to then to get shot down by the strongest Navy/Airforce?

[FillJackson]

ONE?
I think he means if they launch a nuke, we launch ours.

It wouldn't be pretty.

[UK2K]

Is that how much damage one nuke can do? The ENTIRE fcking country? WTF

One nuke can level a city (and leave the surrounding area uninhabitable for years), but we wouldn't send just one. It'd be hundreds.


And just how accurate are our anti defense systems that it'll shoot it down? df

Pretty ****ing accurate. Nearly all are laser guided and can detect when an enemy missile is launched within seconds. Europe is safe from Russia because we've installed a shit load of these on the eastern side. There's practically zero chance of a long range missile getting through.


This shit scary. Now I know why we spend so much on military budget

I doubt Russia would ever do something like that. It won't be a civilized country that starts WW3, because they have too much to lose. It'll be a terrorist organization that buys (or steals, more likely) a nuke from a country that has them.

[UK2K]

You were celebrating Putin last week.

And Clinton did the same not that long ago either...

Seems everyone can privately love the guy, but nobody can publicly. Except Trump, cause he's real.

[FillJackson]

There's no doubt that our convention military is stronger than Russias.

If involved in having to hold large areas of territory, I don't know if they have more people than we do.

But we are not going to directly into a conflict because of nukes.

[FillJackson]

And Clinton did the same not that long ago either...

Seems everyone can privately love the guy, but nobody can publicly. Except Trump, cause he's real.

not that long ago...............


If you weren't aware of the change in Putin since he retook the Presidency.

If you remember Dmitry Medvedev was president for 4 years after Putin's first stint. Russia was not particularly anti-American at that point. If Trump by 2016 hasn't noticed this that is a deficit on him.

When Putin came back, things changed.

[Draz]

Mhm I see. If we ever went to war with Russia, can we even handle the cold? We would just be defending ourselves, launching nukes and missiles, air fights, etc right

[fiddy]

One nuke can level a city (and leave the surrounding area uninhabitable for years), but we wouldn't send just one. It'd be hundreds.



Pretty ****ing accurate. Nearly all are laser guided and can detect when an enemy missile is launched within seconds. Europe is safe from Russia because we've installed a shit load of these on the eastern side. There's practically zero chance of a long range missile getting through.



I doubt Russia would ever do something like that. It won't be a civilized country that starts WW3, because they have too much to lose. It'll be a terrorist organization that buys (or steals, more likely) a nuke from a country that has them.

What about submarine launched nukes and the new nukes with changing trajectory. Also Russia are working on a ICMB that will fly over south pole.


There's no doubt that our convention military is stronger than Russias.

If involved in having to hold large areas of territory, I don't know if they have more people than we do.

But we are not going to directly into a conflict because of nukes.

US is stronger? How come. The US is only stronger in the navy.

[UK2K]

not that long ago...............


If you weren't aware of the change in Putin since he retook the Presidency.

If you remember Dmitry Medvedev was president for 4 years after Putin's first stint. Russia was not particularly anti-American at that point. If Trump by 2016 hasn't noticed this that is a deficit on him.

When Putin came back, things changed.

Keep trying to make up reasons for excusing similar behavior between the two candidates...


On 4 March 2012, Putin won the 2012 Russian presidential elections in the first round

[QUOTE]Though Hillary Clinton has bashed Donald Trump over his alleged fondness for Russia, excerpts from her purported post-State Department speeches in the WikiLeaks files show she also sought

[FillJackson]

Keep trying to make up reasons for excusing similar behavior between the two candidates...





But... but.... but.... but that's different. Keep bullshitting yourself.

If you think any of those are damning or the equivalent of Trump's statements, you're pretty far gone.

[fiddy]

If you think any of those are damning or the equivalent of Trump's statements, you're pretty far gone.
Suuuuuuure, Trump is a Russian puppet :roll: :roll:

[UK2K]

What about submarine launched nukes and the new nukes with changing trajectory. Also Russia are working on a ICMB that will fly over south pole.
.

That's the only way, I think, a nuclear missile could actually hit the US. To pull something like that off, they would need to sneak a submarine pretty close to our coast.

But even then, air defense systems will detect the missile within seconds. In Afghanistan, we had radar systems that could detect, within seconds, the exact location indirect fire was coming at us from. A computer would instantly run a reverse azimuth to find the origin of the fire within 10 meters, and automatically fire back, all within seconds. The newest anti-missile defense systems fire numerous missiles at speeds exceeding mach 4...

It's certainly plausible though, but the nuke would need to be fired from a real isolated location, like off the coast around northern CA and Oregon.

[UK2K]

If you think any of those are damning or the equivalent of Trump's statements, you're pretty far gone.

Ha, okay. Yeah.

Let that bias shine through, and let your spin blow up in your face (as it just did).

[DonDadda59]

Vlad melting down hard. Running scared. He knows his Manchurian Candidate play failed and Hillary's gonna get in his ass her first hour in the Oval Office. :applause:

[fiddy]

That's the only way, I think, a nuclear missile could actually hit the US. To pull something like that off, they would need to sneak a submarine pretty close to our coast.

But even then, air defense systems will detect the missile within seconds. The newest anti-missile defense systems fire numerous missiles at speeds exceeding mach 4...

It's certainly plausible though, but the nuke would need to be fired from a real isolated location, like off the coast around northern CA and Oregon.
mach 4? :roll: :roll:



Speed Mach 23+

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-36_(missile) And thats a nuke produced in '74.



Just look at Bulava and Rubezh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSM-56_Bulava

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS-26_Rubezh



is a Russian solid-fueled, MIRV-equipped (or MARV maneuverable re-entry vehicles to bypass anti-ballistic missiles or hypersonic Prompt Global Strike-type weapons), thermonuclear intercontinental ballistic missile[1] with reported hypersonic warheads[2]


Good luck with both them.

[Hawker]

Russia is more active now than during the cold war, and you want to elect the man Putin wants to win?

Putin is playing chess while America play checkers.

I would have more faith in Hillary

Typical selfish Norwegian coward. Always happy to let others do the dirty work while you stand by and make judgements of americans.

You're not worried at all about the best interests of America. The world isn't populated by people that want the best for your country.

[Rocketswin2013]

when in doubt, extort.

[Bankaii]

I'm not a politics guy at all, but this thread is pretty interesting.
Are the still "allies" in war?
Like say we do go to war with Russia, what countries would assists us vs what countries would assists them, if any?

[DonDadda59]

I'm not a politics guy at all, but this thread is pretty interesting.
Are the still "allies" in war?
Like say we do go to war with Russia, what countries would assists us vs what countries would assists them, if any?

We have the NATO Nations on our side, a coalition of the willing. The Russians are firmly aligned with Syria (Assad's regime) and Iran.

But the Russians won't do shit. They are just in meltdown mode because they realize the time out that Barry O put them on will be extended indefinitely, and probably expanded upon, with Hillary in power. Hence them trying everything imaginable to sway the election in favor of their Manchurian Candidate Drumpf- paying his campaign chief nearly $13 million in secret cash, Wikileaks/Guccifer 2.0, hacking elections databases, etc.

They are working much harder now to get the Donald elected than he is himself.

[9erempiree]

I am legit concerned.

Last night while driving I was listening to NPR and they played a part of Hillary's speech during her rally. The speech was laced with pretty harsh words against Russia.

There is no doubt in my mind that she is going to start a war with Russia.

Obama and the Russians already have tensions. In their last summit they hardly acknowledged one another and many world leaders side with Putin.

Now we have Hillary who is trying to take on the world.:facepalm

We're going to be in a war with them.

They have more nukes than us and just last month Putin made the entire country do a bunker test. What was surprising is that they have millions of bunkers for their people. We don't have millions for our population.

[Nick Young]

Hillary hates every day Americans and thinks 50% of us are deplorable. She doesn't give a shit how many of us die.

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/786537812996653056

Paul Joseph Watson Verified account
‏@PrisonPlanet

Drudge is reporting a new Rasmussen poll that says Trump is back in the lead. This is why the establishment is in uber panic mode.

#TheShookening

[UK2K]

Hillary hates every day Americans and thinks 50% of us are deplorable. She doesn't give a shit how many of us die.

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/786537812996653056


#TheShookening

From their own poll... shit is getting ugly for Clinton.

[QUOTE]Trump has 75% support among Republicans, nearly identical to Clinton

[oarabbus]

Hillary hates every day Americans and thinks 50% of us are deplorable. She doesn't give a shit how many of us die.

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/786537812996653056


#TheShookening


It's kind of ironic that when a poll shows that Hillary leads, "polls dont matter". But if the poll shows Trump ahead, it's big news and the establishment is "shook" :oldlol:

[poido123]

You were celebrating Putin last week.



I would be too if I was in his shoes.


America has been way too aggressive in their region. Putin doesn't trust Hillary or the current Obama government and is preparing for war against hillary.


Hillary has stated her intentions, I totally understand why Putin is doing this.

[poido123]

Vlad melting down hard. Running scared. He knows his Manchurian Candidate play failed and Hillary's gonna get in his ass her first hour in the Oval Office. :applause:



You see, issues like this REALLY MATTER.

Not petty lewd remarks, not digging dirt on a women from 10 20 years ago, but an actual NUCLEAR CONFLICT.


Russia didn't cause this. It's been Obama and his unwillingness to get along with Putin and the strategic placement of anti missile weaponry around the Russian boundaries.


Now we have war hawk Hillary biting at the bit to get at Putin.



Make no mistake, America wants no part of Russia in a war. Putin actually knows war strategy and it won't be as simple as having the best technology.


In fact, none of us win. But you keep posting up your silly shill campaign. It really doesn't matter anymore, the American people need to be fully aware what voting Hillary will do.

[Funktion]

If Trump loses, he'll disappear. All his debts repaid.

https://youtu.be/ARmrDh0cbCE

[Schotsman]

You see, issues like this REALLY MATTER.

Not petty lewd remarks, not digging dirt on a women from 10 20 years ago, but an actual NUCLEAR CONFLICT.


Russia didn't cause this. It's been Obama and his unwillingness to get along with Putin and the strategic placement of anti missile weaponry around the Russian boundaries.


Now we have war hawk Hillary biting at the bit to get at Putin.



Make no mistake, America wants no part of Russia in a war. Putin actually knows war strategy and it won't be as simple as having the best technology.


In fact, none of us win. But you keep posting up your silly shill campaign. It really doesn't matter anymore, the American people need to be fully aware what voting Hillary will do.

I agree completely. This entire mess in Syria and the political tensions that resulted from it were caused by the Western countries not daring to intervene years ago. You really can't blame Putin for the escalation of the situation.

[poido123]

I agree completely. This entire mess in Syria and the political tensions that resulted from it were caused by the Western countries not daring to intervene years ago. You really can't blame Putin for the escalation of the situation.



Hope and pray people.


This is a bigger deal than what the media is letting on.


Many of you here are of military age. It probably won't come to a conscription situation, but it's not out of the question.

[senelcoolidge]

Civil War or World War III are very possible if Hillary wins. More likely WW3.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Typical selfish Norwegian coward. Always happy to let others do the dirty work while you stand by and make judgements of americans.

You're not worried at all about the best interests of America. The world isn't populated by people that want the best for your country.
TBH Norway has been pretty aggressive on their border with Russia
Hope and pray people.


This is a bigger deal than what the media is letting on.


Many of you here are of military age. It probably won't come to a conscription situation, but it's not out of the question.
Yea that won't happen

[poido123]

TBH Norway has been pretty aggressive on their border with Russia
Yea that won't happen



Vietnam? :confusedshrug:

[fiddy]

We have the NATO Nations on our side, a coalition of the willing. The Russians are firmly aligned with Syria (Assad's regime) and Iran.

But the Russians won't do shit. They are just in meltdown mode because they realize the time out that Barry O put them on will be extended indefinitely, and probably expanded upon, with Hillary in power. Hence them trying everything imaginable to sway the election in favor of their Manchurian Candidate Drumpf- paying his campaign chief nearly $13 million in secret cash, Wikileaks/Guccifer 2.0, hacking elections databases, etc.

They are working much harder now to get the Donald elected than he is himself.
Bruh, you usually spew a lot of stupidity, gotta say you outdid yourself here. :roll:

[poido123]

Bruh, you usually spew a lot of stupidity, gotta say you outdid yourself here. :roll:



In Dondadda's world, war with Russia is the next logical step :oldlol:


He totally underestimates Putin. He honestly believes that America will annihilate Russia without any damage to their own.


We were told that America and the world is more stable under an Obama presidency.


Further proof that this is not the case.

[DonDadda59]

Bruh, you usually spew a lot of stupidity, gotta say you outdid yourself here. :roll:

:cheers:

[Derka]

lol, no he won't. I don't care what he sends his minions out to say to the press, the truth is that he's a spy, not a soldier. He's not going to put millions of Russian lives at risk over a DNC hack and Syria :oldlol:

You people are f*cking idiots.

[FillJackson]

From their own poll... shit is getting ugly for Clinton.
Don't know where this quote is from.

but nationally a higher percentage of Democrats support Hillary than Republicans supporting Trump.

[poido123]

lol, no he won't. I don't care what he sends his minions out to say to the press, the truth is that he's a spy, not a soldier. He's not going to put millions of Russian lives at risk over a DNC hack and Syria :oldlol:

You people are f*cking idiots.



40 million citizens into 5000 hardened shelters?


https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/2166


I suppose the sun was hot that day.

[Derka]

40 million citizens into 5000 hardened shelters?

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/2166

I suppose the sun was hot that day.
Your source :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Next time just cite www.madeupmonkeyshit.com and get the joke out up front, bruh.

[poido123]

Your source :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Next time just cite www.madeupmonkeyshit.com and get the joke out up front, bruh.



How many sources do you want? All the big UK tabloids are reporting it which is no surprise:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1907902/russia-holds-massive-nuclear-war-exercise-involving-40million-people-as-military-tensions-rise-with-us/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3823232/Russia-warns-schizophrenics-America-sharpening-atomic-weapons-Moscow-nuclear-war-imminent-evacuates-40-MILLION-people-drill.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/russia-prepares-citizen-nuclear-war-8971068

[fiddy]

lol, no he won't. I don't care what he sends his minions out to say to the press, the truth is that he's a spy, not a soldier. He's not going to put millions of Russian lives at risk over a DNC hack and Syria :oldlol:

You people are f*cking idiots.
Putin is not going to start the war, its the US.

[poido123]

Your source :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Next time just cite www.madeupmonkeyshit.com and get the joke out up front, bruh.



Also ordering top Government Officials to return home immediately.


Just a conspiracy according to you though:


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/10/12/putin-orders-russian-officials-relatives-studying-abroad-to-return-home-reports-claim.html

[Derka]

How many sources do you want? All the big UK tabloids are reporting it which is no surprise:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1907902/russia-holds-massive-nuclear-war-exercise-involving-40million-people-as-military-tensions-rise-with-us/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3823232/Russia-warns-schizophrenics-America-sharpening-atomic-weapons-Moscow-nuclear-war-imminent-evacuates-40-MILLION-people-drill.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/russia-prepares-citizen-nuclear-war-8971068
LOOOOOOOOOOOOL British tabloids. I'm done. You guys have fun typing shit at each other. Hahahahahaha.

And the cherry on top: FoxNews! You guys are great.

[Derka]

Putin is not going to start the war, its the US.
lol, nobody is starting a shooting war in 2016 over a stretch of desert and hacking.

[poido123]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL British tabloids. I'm done. You guys have fun typing shit at each other. Hahahahahaha.


So you won't accept a valid source that this is happening...You do realise that the US mainstream media won't report this with the election situation? They don't want to help Trump.


Well at least I won't have to provide the nuke as proof. You will get that one personally delivered.

[DonDadda59]

lol, nobody is starting a shooting war in 2016 over a stretch of desert and hacking.

Yup. It'll be more crippling sanctions and more passive aggressive actions from Vlad until he decides to start acting right. The man isn't suicidal after all. Turkey shot down his fighter jet and he didn't do shit in response. Paper tiger.

[Derka]

So you won't accept a valid source that this is happening...You do realise that the US mainstream media won't report this with the election situation? They don't want to help Trump.

Well at least I won't have to provide the nuke as proof. You will get that one personally delivered.
Wherever in the world you are, they need to teach you a thing or two about valid sources. What you linked...nah, bro. Not even close :oldlol: :oldlol:

And of course the US media won't report on it. 1. Its made up. 2. They've got stories about Trump and Hillary to invent so the American public can keep buying into the trashy reality TV show that is this election year and driving up ad revenues for the corporate ***** who own everything. They've got their own fiction departments hard at work these days and don't need Russian fiction tossed in on top of the pile.

[poido123]

Yup. It'll be more crippling sanctions and more passive aggressive actions from Vlad until he decides to start acting right. The man isn't suicidal after all. Turkey shot down his fighter jet and he didn't do shit in response. Paper tiger.



Paper tiger. :roll:


I don't think anyone in the world would believe this. You have a unique outlook on things, how cute...


:D

[DonDadda59]

Paper tiger. :roll:


I don't think anyone in the world would believe this. You have a unique outlook on things, how cute...


:D

Turkey Shot Down Vlad's Jet Last Year (http://www.wsj.com/articles/turkey-shoots-down-jet-near-syria-border-1448356509)

Big bad Vlad's response-


“Today’s tragic incident will have serious consequences for Russian-Turkish relations,” said Mr. Putin. :mad:


What did big bad Vlad do in reality?

Jack shit is what.

But they're gonna start a war with 'Murrica? :yaohappy:

[fiddy]

lol, nobody is starting a shooting war in 2016 over a stretch of desert and hacking.
You cant be that ignorant and have an opinion on the issue.

[KyrieTheFuture]

You cant be that ignorant and have an opinion on the issue.
I mean, he isn't wrong, Russia and the US have no reason to launch nukes over either of these things.

[fiddy]

I mean, he isn't wrong, Russia and the US have no reason to launch nukes over either of these things.
Sure? There having multiple reports that the US was considering bombing the Syrian regime in recent days. In less than 48 hours the Russians transferred more short ranged SAM systems to Assad. If there were no legitimate concerns over US intentions, that wouldnt even happen. US attacking Assad basically means war against Russia.

https://twitter.com/Brasco_Aad/status/786008034875105280

[poido123]

I mean, he isn't wrong, Russia and the US have no reason to launch nukes over either of these things.


It really depends what you know of Putin.


Putin has said publicly his distrust of the current US administration and he has chastised the madness and corruption of the media and it's actions in Syria against Assad.


Putin has stated that if that madness continues and the media continues to manipulate things against russia, he says it leaves him no choice but to defend his country.


And in this speech, he goes into detail about the anti missile systems placed strategically as an act of aggression, but also touches on the media spin in America and how it affects the narrative about Russia.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqD8lIdIMRo

6:10 onwards really details this. This is probably THE MOST IMPORTANT Putin speech you will hear.

For those who can sit through a 14 minute video, this is the one that gives you a true idea of who is really instigating this war.

[Funktion]

Putins been barking since the sanctions were upped on his dealing with Ukraine and after Russia got hammered on the oil front.

Now he wants to implant his Paper Drumpf so he can collect and get oil back up to $150/barrel. You tin foilers, I tell ya. Not very much upstairs.

http://www.newsweek.com/putin-calls-us-compensate-sanctions-losses-505691

[HarryCallahan]

Putin has stated that he will go to war with the US if they vote Hillary.


Can't believe thread has gone 6 pages and no one has pointed out that this is false.

You are an idiot and a liar trent.

[poido123]

Can't believe thread has gone 6 pages and no one has pointed out that this is false.

You are an idiot and a liar trent.


Putin's mouthpiece, but pretty damning nonetheless.


If you had been paying attention to Putin's speeches in the last 12 months, he suggested as much anyway.

[Styles p]

[QUOTE=DonDadda59]Turkey Shot Down Vlad's Jet Last Year (http://www.wsj.com/articles/turkey-shoots-down-jet-near-syria-border-1448356509)

Big bad Vlad's response-

[B][INDENT]

[ILLsmak]

and they shot at the one pilot who ejected with their ak's on his way down. i seriously can't believe you guys are so scared of russia.

arite. haha. I think we are in a position where a lot of people could gang up on us.

People are scary who don't have anything to lose.

-Smak

[Styles p]

arite. haha. I think we are in a position where a lot of people could gang up on us.

People are scary who don't have anything to lose.

-Smak

we can never be invaded, we by far have the most aircraft carriers than almost every country combined we have 19 active the country in second has 4 and that's france, russia has a whopping... 1. we could hold off an invasion for a very long time against almost everyone. add that with the fact that most of our citizens are armed.

[ILLsmak]

we can never be invaded, we by far have the most aircraft carriers than almost every country combined we have 19 active the country in second has 4 and that's france, russia has a whopping... 1. we could hold off an invasion for a very long time against almost everyone. add that with the fact that most of our citizens are armed.

We can still get absolutely crushed in a war without being invaded. We are also isolated which means they could crush our allies just as easily as we could hold off invasion. It works both ways.

I think you're thinking of things in different terms than I am. Not to mention terrorism...

I don't think that we are gonna be taken over by Russia. That's a pretty narrow view on what war is, though. We can have major Americans killed and be embarrassed on a world stage. We'll see what happens.

People talk about how Trumps foreign policy would be terrible and then the Dems go out and accuse Russia of hacking our government. It's like ok...

We are living a v posh life now as a nation, which is probably why we are so worried about shit like sexist microaggression. HE WAS STANDING TOO CLOSE TO ME. I think they could do enough to really change our reality, and in these days that's what war is.

-Smak

[HarryCallahan]

Putin's mouthpiece, but pretty damning nonetheless.


If you had been paying attention to Putin's speeches in the last 12 months, he suggested as much anyway.

Who, when and why. Link to sources?

If you had been paying attention to Putin's speeches over the past year, you'd know that he constantly repeats his "we will work with whoever wins the election" line.

[fiddy]

Who, when and why. Link to sources?

If you had been paying attention to Putin's speeches over the past year, you'd know that he constantly repeats his "we will work with whoever wins the election" line.
Exactly, but those mindless tools are gulping everything MSM feeds them

[HarryCallahan]

Exactly, but those mindless tools are gulping everything MSM feeds them
poido is a tragic case. He's able to understand just enough to be completely confused by everything. At least he on the kebab removal train.

[bdreason]

Russia doesn't want war with the U.S.


That war would be over before it even started.

[poido123]

Who, when and why. Link to sources?

If you had been paying attention to Putin's speeches over the past year, you'd know that he constantly repeats his "we will work with whoever wins the election" line.


Cmon Harry, now you're just being annoying again.

Vladimir Zhirinovsky. 2 days ago. Because he's Putin's mouthpiece.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-russian-trump-idUSKCN12C28Q?il=0



I've already had a run in with your buddy RMWG over silly shit.

[Derka]

You cant be that ignorant and have an opinion on the issue.
Of course I can. Brinkmanship is not a new tactic in the international diplomacy stage and Russians have always been perfectly happy using it. Again, Putin is a spy, not a soldier...and he's not a lunatic. He's not sentencing millions of his own people to death over regional conflicts.

[Micku]

Russia doesn't want war with the U.S.


That war would be over before it even started.

Pretty much. We'll take both loses, but if he tries to attack the USA, then that's an attack on NATO. That's closer to his borders than USA is. It'll be bad. It's a lose, lose situation if it's nuclear. And the potential radiation factor. Who the hell wants that?

If it isn't and we have rules in the war, (no nukes or chemical warfare) then I dunno where would we fight at. Syria? Pretty sure the ppl of USA wouldn't want that.

[HarryCallahan]

Cmon Harry, now you're just being annoying again.

Vladimir Zhirinovsky. 2 days ago. Because he's Putin's mouthpiece.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-russian-trump-idUSKCN12C28Q?il=0



I've already had a run in with your buddy RMWG over silly shit.

my God Trent... drop the condescending attitude, it's very unbecoming when you are so wrong, because you are so very stupid.

1. Zhirinovsky is not "Putin's mouthpiece" he's the leader of a rival political party

2. The article you posted is of someone (not Putin) who is claiming HRC would start a war if elected not, and i'll quote you;


Putin has stated that he will go to war with the US if they vote Hillary.

3. Not only do I not like RMWG, i doubt we agree politically on anything, so I don't know why you are calling him my "buddy"



Not being annoying, being right.

[fiddy]

Of course I can. Brinkmanship is not a new tactic in the international diplomacy stage and Russians have always been perfectly happy using it. Again, Putin is a spy, not a soldier...and he's not a lunatic. He's not sentencing millions of his own people to death over regional conflicts.
Open your blind eyes and read, if anyone is starting a war, it is the US, not Russia. :facepalm


Cmon Harry, now you're just being annoying again.

Vladimir Zhirinovsky. 2 days ago. Because he's Putin's mouthpiece.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-russian-trump-idUSKCN12C28Q?il=0



I've already had a run in with your buddy RMWG over silly shit.

Holy shit Reuters :roll:

[andgar923]

There's a reason we have bases in the region around Russia.

https://kauilapele.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/usa_corp_vs_world_military_bases.jpg

[fiddy]

There's a reason we have bases in the region around Russia.
Warmongering?

[andgar923]

The majority of the world is on our side, the world needs us.

Russia wouldn't try shit on us they know better, it's all posturing to make their leadership look tougher. We on the other hand, minimize our power in public, we don't go around bragging about how powerful we are. We'd CRUSH the shit outta them.

Whatever technology they have our is superior.

They wanna hack our stupid Democrat servers, we'll dismantle their entire society.

They wanna launch a nuke? we have tech that will blow up in the air before it leaves their atmosphere and then obliterate them.

All this talk about missing nukes, they probably dont even have the capabilities to launch a fraction.

[andgar923]

Warmongering?

"peace keeping" and "diplomacy"

[HarryCallahan]

Warmongering?

Got 'em.

[fiddy]

"peace keeping" and "diplomacy"
Translated from hypocrisy as warmongering.


The majority of the world is on our side, the world needs us.

Russia wouldn't try shit on us they know better, it's all posturing to make their leadership look tougher. We on the other hand, minimize our power in public, we don't go around bragging about how powerful we are. We'd CRUSH the shit outta them.

Whatever technology they have our is superior.

They wanna hack our stupid Democrat servers, we'll dismantle their entire society.

They wanna launch a nuke? we have tech that will blow up in the air before it leaves their atmosphere and then obliterate them.

All this talk about missing nukes, they probably dont even have the capabilities to launch a fraction.


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[poido123]

my God Trent... drop the condescending attitude, it's very unbecoming when you are so wrong, because you are so very stupid.

1. Zhirinovsky is not "Putin's mouthpiece" he's the leader of a rival political party

2. The article you posted is of someone (not Putin) who is claiming HRC would start a war if elected not, and i'll quote you;



3. Not only do I not like RMWG, i doubt we agree politically on anything, so I don't know why you are calling him my "buddy"



Not being annoying, being right.


We can agree on that.

I was refering to Zhirinovsky sharing same nationalist opinions of Putin. Russians tend to agree on much of the same foreign policies, including their mistrust of US government, their PC correctness etc. Depends how you interpret mouthpiece I suppose.


Well annoying. You have been up in my ass ever since you started posting.


RMWG is a great guy. I hope you two become besties. :D

[fiddy]

We can agree on that.

I was refering to Zhirinovsky sharing same nationalist opinions of Putin. Russians tend to agree on much of the same foreign policies, including their mistrust of US government, their PC correctness etc. Depends how you interpret mouthpiece I suppose.


Well annoying. You have been up in my ass ever since you started posting.


RMWG is a great guy. I hope you two become besties. :D


So now Putin is nationalist?

[poido123]

"peace keeping" and "diplomacy"


I don't think you understand Russia's POV.


If Russian military surrounded America's borders and placed anti missile equipment on the border that can easily convert into nuclear missile capability, then America would have a problem with that.


You add to that Russia's mistrust of America's intentions and their previous warmongering throughout the middle East, yeah Russia has every right to be pissed.

[poido123]

So now Putin is nationalist?


Of course.


Is that disputable?

[fiddy]

Of course.


Is that disputable?
https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/putin-is-not-a-nationalist-36704

The opposition in Russia is far more nationalistic than Putin himself.

[poido123]

https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/putin-is-not-a-nationalist-36704

The opposition in Russia is far more nationalistic than Putin himself.


Not all nationalist people always form ALL the characteristics of nationalism.


I consider myself a nationalist, but I have ideas which differ to conventional nationalist beliefs. But the foundation is the key.


That article claims Putin to be not nationalist, but common sense will tell you that he is. Just because SOME of his ideas may not reflect hardline nationalism, doesn't mean he's not a nationalist.


Perhaps he doesn't believe Ukraine is part of the Russia he believes in(though historic russian lands), but shouldn't disqualify from his foundation of nationalism.


The article pretty much highlighted exactly Putin's stance on nationalism. He probably pulls back some of those hardline ideas for political reasons and anyone with an objective opinion would tell you that Putin is very nationalistic.

[HarryCallahan]

The west is so cucked by the cult of multi-culti that people now think Vlad "2nd largest receiver of immigrants in the world" Putin is somehow an ultra-nationalist.

[poido123]

The west is so cucked by the cult of multi-culti that people now think Vlad "2nd largest receiver of immigrants in the world" Putin is somehow an ultra-nationalist.


Multiculturalism benefits government. A new voter block and potentially more taxpayers.


The people never got a say in whether they wanted this, just like they don't get a say on islamic immigration UNLESS a far right candidate is voted in and wants to do something about it.


I would be proud to have a president like Putin. I bet the russians feel a sense of pride being Russian, BECAUSE of Putin's strength and nationalism.

[HarryCallahan]

Multiculturalism benefits government.


At the expense of everyone else.

[eliteballer]

OP's stupidity is mindboggling:oldlol:

[poido123]

At the expense of everyone else.


Multiculturalism is great when you live in rich suburbs that doesn't have these migrants around.


The government would have a different outlook if the decisions they made directly affected them negatively.

[DonDadda59]

Revenge is a dish best served digitally (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cia-prepping-possible-cyber-strike-against-russia-n666636)

^This is what 'WAR' with Russia will be going forward. That and the crippling sanctions that have destroyed their economy.

[poido123]

Revenge is a dish best served digitally (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cia-prepping-possible-cyber-strike-against-russia-n666636)

^This is what 'WAR' with Russia will be going forward. That and the crippling sanctions that have destroyed their economy.



You support war against ANOTHER country who doesn't deserve it?


Murrica


You have no reason to hate Russia.

[DonDadda59]

You support war against ANOTHER country who doesn't deserve it?


Murrica


You have no reason to hate Russia.

You say this as they compromise our National security and try to directly influence our democratic voting process through cyber espionage. :biggums:

Putin done f*cked up. Putin will get his comeuppance. Unlike when Turkey shot down his fighter jet and Vlad didn't do shit in response, 'Murrica isn't some tough talking paper tiger. Just ask the Houthis in Yemen if you need a recent example.

Vladamir... WE COMIN' FOR YOU NIGGUH (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1o82BVKFp8) :crazysam:

[fiddy]

Revenge is a dish best served digitally (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cia-prepping-possible-cyber-strike-against-russia-n666636)

^This is what 'WAR' with Russia will be going forward. That and the crippling sanctions that have destroyed their economy.
If anyone needs to be sanctioned that is the US for its aggression in Iraq and disregarding the UN.

Btw this should haunt your nightmares, because there's a real possibility one of those lands on your ignorant head in the fake ass New York

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mt5yNoaARM

[sd3035]

You say this as they compromise our National security and try to directly influence our democratic voting process through cyber espionage. :biggums:

Putin done f*cked up. Putin will get his comeuppance. Unlike when Turkey shot down his fighter jet and Vlad didn't do shit in response, 'Murrica isn't some tough talking paper tiger. Just ask the Houthis in Yemen if you need a recent example.

Vladamir... WE COMIN' FOR YOU NIGGUH (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1o82BVKFp8) :crazysam:

lol you're one of the brainwashed sheep that your masters laugh about behind closed doors and call racist names

[DonDadda59]

If anyone needs to be sanctioned that is the US for its aggression in Iraq and disregarding the UN.

Btw this should haunt your nightmares, because there's a real possibility one of those lands on your ignorant head in the fake ass New York

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mt5yNoaARM

The day a Paper Tiger nation decides to launch anything in the direction of 'Murrica is the day that Nation ceases to exist.

What did Vlad do when Turkey shot down his plane last year, Fiddy?

WHAT.

DID.

HE.

DO?

Jack shit.

But he's gonna launch missiles at NY now. :lol


lol you're one of the brainwashed sheep that your masters laugh about behind closed doors and call racist names

How many rubles did it take to buy you? (http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-internet-trolls-and-donald-trump-2016-7)

Lord knows thanks to Vlad's incompetence and petulance, that currency ain't worth what it used to be.

[fiddy]

The day a Paper Tiger nation decides to launch anything in the direction of 'Murrica is the day that Nation ceases to exist.

What did Vlad do when Turkey shot down his plane last year, Fiddy?

WHAT.

DID.

HE.

DO?

Jack shit.

But he's gonna launch missiles at NY now. :lol




Good luck breathing the nuclear fallout. You clearly have no idea of the real value of the russian military forces.

[senelcoolidge]

I wouldn't be surprised if these leaks came from within the U.S. and not Russia. Notice how they automatically go to blaming Russia when they get caught in their misdeeds.

[poido123]

Good luck breathing the nuclear fallout. You clearly have no idea of the real value of the russian military forces.


He Has no clue.


Russia can certainly inflict a lot of damage before they are beaten. Still a very sizable arsenal and military force.

[NZStreetBaller]

Is that how much damage one nuke can do? The ENTIRE fcking country? WTF

And just how accurate are our anti defense systems that it'll shoot it down? df

This shit scary. Now I know why we spend so much on military budget

Anti defence systems couldnt even stop two planes from hitting the two towers