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riseagainst
10-14-2016, 02:36 PM
Lebron is clear cut the better player and has had a better career so far as well. Literally no debate.

Lebron is top 3 all time, while Kobe is only arguably top 12.

TheWinningFam
10-14-2016, 03:12 PM
So just because a few retard ISH posters and white reporters say Lebron is higher than Kobe on the all time list its consensus? :lol

You know how many legends have said Kobe is better than Lebrob? But im supposed to take the opinion of white people and ISH posters more seriously than guys who actually PLAYED the game :lol
So by this logic, Paul pierce has a higher understanding/knowing of the game than greg popovich or phil jackson? :facepalm

Just because you play doesn't = knowing more about the game than an analyst.

FreezingTsmoove
10-14-2016, 03:21 PM
So by this logic, Paul pierce has a higher understanding/knowing of the game than greg popovich or phil jackson? :facepalm

Just because you play doesn't = knowing more about the game than an analyst.

Phil Jackson played basketball you ****ing retard!!!!! :lol

CuhGetsBucks
10-14-2016, 03:43 PM
Lmao

TheWinningFam
10-14-2016, 04:01 PM
Phil Jackson played basketball you ****ing retard!!!!! :lol
Who's the retard still thinking kobe's even close to lebron still. and discredting an analyst's opinion because they're white.
I knew you'd take the phil jackson bait. :hammerhead:

Nilocon165
10-14-2016, 04:35 PM
So just because a few retard ISH posters and white reporters say Lebron is higher than Kobe on the all time list its consensus? :lol

You know how many legends have said Kobe is better than Lebrob? But im supposed to take the opinion of white people and ISH posters more seriously than guys who actually PLAYED the game :lol
Lol so these are the only people who have said that Lebron is better than Kobe?

Sounds like somebody's in denial

http://i.giphy.com/VooAA675dGl4k.gif

SouBeachTalents
10-14-2016, 04:36 PM
This past Finals absolutely and unequivocally ended the LeBron vs. Kobe debate. LeBron has more MVP's, more FMVP's, better regular season, postseason & Finals numbers, and he's even surpassed Kobe on most of the all time statistical leaderboards. He did all of this in SEVEN less seasons, and he still has at least another 3-4 years remaining as a formidable player. In a few seasons this comparison is going to be laughable

FreezingTsmoove
10-14-2016, 04:42 PM
Who's the retard still thinking kobe's even close to lebron still. and discredting an analyst's opinion because they're white.
I knew you'd take the phil jackson bait. :hammerhead:

So making yourself look like a retard when it comes to basketball history is your bait :lol

What a melt!!!

Lebron23
10-14-2016, 04:58 PM
Lebron is way better than Kobe.

TheWinningFam
10-14-2016, 04:59 PM
So making yourself look like a retard when it comes to basketball history is your bait :lol

What a melt!!!

No, the fact that you're deflecting to phil jackson playing and not from the main point. :lol

Big164
10-14-2016, 06:02 PM
5/7 > 3/7

Yea I'm a wilt fan...Kobe still got Bron beat where it matters.

TheWinningFam
10-14-2016, 06:03 PM
5/7 > 3/7

Yea I'm a wilt fan...Kobe still got Bron beat where it matters.
4 mvps 3 fmvps and superior stats > 2 fmvps and 1 mvp

Also lebron>wilt by your logic.

AirBonner
10-14-2016, 06:05 PM
5/7 > 3/7

Yea I'm a wilt fan...Kobe still got Bron beat where it matters.
More role player rings. Congrats.

Bankaii
10-14-2016, 06:05 PM
5/7 > 3/7

Yea I'm a wilt fan...Kobe still got Bron beat where it matters.
So...
Lebron/Kobe/Russell/MJ/Kareem/Shaq/Hakeem/Duncan/Bird/Magic/Wade/Bosh>>>>>Wilt.

Great logic

SouBeachTalents
10-14-2016, 06:07 PM
5/7 > 3/7

Yea I'm a wilt fan...Kobe still got Bron beat where it matters.

So you're basically conceding LeBron has Wilt beat where it matters too :roll:

Lebron23
10-14-2016, 06:09 PM
So you're basically conceding LeBron has Wilt beat where it matters too :roll:


He's a gimmick account.

Big164
10-14-2016, 06:15 PM
4 mvps 3 fmvps and superior stats > 2 fmvps and 1 mvp

Also lebron>wilt by your logic.

Chamberlain owns half the record book, doesn't really need rings.

Lebron needs 5 to equal Kobe.

AirBonner
10-14-2016, 06:17 PM
Chamberlain owns half the record book, doesn't really need rings.

Lebron needs 5 to equal Kobe.
Except the records that matter the most. Playoffs.

Lebron23
10-14-2016, 06:24 PM
Someone needs to photoshop Lebron's head to VC's body.

https://media.giphy.com/media/nqRJTIwsBftG8/giphy.gif

Big164
10-14-2016, 06:31 PM
Someone needs to photoshop at least 2 more rings on Lebron's finger because until then, it's Kobe all the way.

Bankaii
10-14-2016, 06:36 PM
Someone needs to photoshop at least 2 more rings on Lebron's finger because until then, it's Kobe all the way.
Someone needs to photoshop Wilt a postseason resume, because after the regular season there's a giant drop off of nonexistence.

Smoke117
10-14-2016, 06:47 PM
So just because a few retard ISH posters and white reporters say Lebron is higher than Kobe on the all time list its consensus? :lol

You know how many legends have said Kobe is better than Lebrob? But im supposed to take the opinion of white people and ISH posters more seriously than guys who actually PLAYED the game :lol

This cat is quickly moving up the ranks of most cringeworthy posters on ish.

Wally450
10-15-2016, 01:38 PM
5/7 > 3/7

Yea I'm a wilt fan...Kobe still got Bron beat where it matters.

Robert Horry is better than Wilt, got it.

ClipperRevival
10-15-2016, 08:48 PM
5/7 > 3/7

Yea I'm a wilt fan...Kobe still got Bron beat where it matters.

Damn son, but you are a Wilt fan right? :biggums:

TheWinningFam
10-15-2016, 09:13 PM
Someone needs to photoshop Lebron's head to VC's body.

https://media.giphy.com/media/nqRJTIwsBftG8/giphy.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/uVaKgS6WSa0Mg/giphy.gif

ClipperRevival
10-15-2016, 09:17 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/uVaKgS6WSa0Mg/giphy.gif

In all honesty, that's one ugly MF.

tmacattack33
10-15-2016, 09:17 PM
The Lebron vs Kobe debate ended a while ago and officially was done on June 25, 2016.



The new debates will be:

Kareem vs Lebron...for runner up GOAT

Durant vs Kobe or Curry vs Kobe... depending on who plays better and ends up as the first option on Golden State over the next year years.

Big164
10-15-2016, 09:48 PM
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/20141227/5154131/kobe-5-rings-o.gif

Naero
10-15-2016, 10:12 PM
The LeBron-Kobe debates have already been demonstrably settled in 2013, IMO, when LeBron had 3 more MVPs, just as many alpha-male championships, a more impressive playoffs run than Kobe has ever had (namely 2012), and a bevy of more impressive regular seasons all under his belt; the legacy disparity only continued to broaden since with enhanced longevity, of course, and his 2016 NBA Finals performance to punctuate more exclamatory marks to his case.

When it will be accepted by Kobe-aggrandizing and LeBron-detracting fans is another issue, of course, and it takes on its own complexion since many let their personal emotions lag behind reality.

To me, it really just hinges on when another modern-era ATG's legacy threatens to outrank Kobe; by then, they might start to latch on to a new "villain," which may overshadow how rankled they've felt by LeBron.

That most likely won't happen anytime soon, however; the closest active players in their primes who are trailing Kobe are Curry and Durant--both of which have seriously hindered their chances of surpassing him with their playoffs choke-jobs last year and potentially sacrificing more individual accomplishments to play together moving into the future.

SouBeachTalents
10-15-2016, 10:32 PM
The LeBron-Kobe debates have already been demonstrably settled in 2013, IMO, when LeBron had 3 more MVPs, just as many alpha-male championships, a more impressive playoffs run than Kobe has ever had (namely 2012), and a bevy of more impressive regular seasons all under his belt; the legacy disparity only continued to broaden since with enhanced longevity, of course, and his 2016 NBA Finals performance to punctuate more exclamatory marks to his case.

When it will be accepted by Kobe-aggrandizing and LeBron-detracting fans is another issue, of course, and it takes on its own complexion since many let their personal emotions lag behind reality.

To me, it really just hinges on when another modern-era ATG's legacy threatens to outrank Kobe; by then, they might start to latch on to a new "villain," which may overshadow how rankled they've felt by LeBron.

That most likely won't happen anytime soon, however; the closest active players in their primes who are trailing Kobe are Curry and Durant--both of which have seriously hindered their chances of surpassing him with their playoffs choke-jobs last year and potentially sacrificing more individual accomplishments to play together moving into the future.

http://0.tqn.com/d/grammar/1/S/f/C/0/-/Getty_thesaurus-78367108.jpg

aj1987
10-16-2016, 07:55 AM
Someone needs to photoshop at least 2 more rings on Lebron's finger because until then, it's Kobe all the way.
I've been saying Wade >>>>>>>>>> The mental midget Ilt Chokerlain. Thanks for agreeing with me.

SwayDizzle
10-16-2016, 11:49 AM
kobe vs lebron got settled a long time ago when lebron failed to even reach the finals with a 60+ win team to battle kobe. lebron was so shook those days, couldn't even score in the 4th quarter, because he knew kobe was waiting to prey on him.

Fedor - Laker
10-16-2016, 12:28 PM
Lebron is clearly the better player, but has less rings.

PeroAntic
10-16-2016, 12:33 PM
Lebron has better stats. Thats because hes bigger so he can get more rebounds, and he barges in the post like a tank, getting better fg percentage. Kobe is much more aesthetic and skilled, and hes equally better passer just more scoring oriented. Defense they are equally good. Kobe has more titles (dont care who was #1 or #2 option between legends like Shaq, Kobe, Gasol, Wade, Lebron), but Lebron has generally made those around him better in his career with his playmaking.

In the end its a matter of preference. Personally I prefer the beauty of Kobe's game rather than Lebron's achievements.

ArbitraryWater
10-16-2016, 01:03 PM
Lebron has better stats. Thats because hes bigger so he can get more rebounds, and he barges in the post like a tank, getting better fg percentage. Kobe is much more aesthetic and skilled, and hes equally better passer just more scoring oriented. Defense they are equally good. Kobe has more titles (dont care who was #1 or #2 option between legends like Shaq, Kobe, Gasol, Wade, Lebron), but Lebron has generally made those around him better in his career with his playmaking.

In the end its a matter of preference. Personally I prefer the beauty of Kobe's game rather than Lebron's achievements.

when you try to sound objective and smart but fail

Nilocon165
10-16-2016, 01:03 PM
kobe vs lebron got settled a long time ago when lebron failed to even reach the finals with a 60+ win team to battle kobe. lebron was so shook those days, couldn't even score in the 4th quarter, because he knew kobe was waiting to prey on him.
So he "only" averaged 39,8, and 8 to avoid playing kobe? :biggums: :wtf:

SouBeachTalents
10-16-2016, 01:12 PM
Lebron has better stats. Thats because hes bigger so he can get more rebounds, and he barges in the post like a tank, getting better fg percentage. Kobe is much more aesthetic and skilled, and hes equally better passer just more scoring oriented. Defense they are equally good. Kobe has more titles (dont care who was #1 or #2 option between legends like Shaq, Kobe, Gasol, Wade, Lebron), but Lebron has generally made those around him better in his career with his playmaking.

In the end its a matter of preference. Personally I prefer the beauty of Kobe's game rather than Lebron's achievements.

If you're arguing for Kobe of course you don't :lol

D-Wait
10-16-2016, 01:19 PM
So by this logic, Paul pierce has a higher understanding/knowing of the game than greg popovich or phil jackson? :facepalm
Just because you play doesn't = knowing more about the game than an analyst.

Phil Jackson played in the Nba.

Mr Feeny
10-16-2016, 02:09 PM
when you try to sound objective and smart but fail

:oldlol:
It's sad, isn't it?: The Kobe stans officially have nothing to retort with these days:roll:

SamuraiSWISH
10-16-2016, 03:52 PM
Kobe's game is easily better looking, and more aesthetic. A more respectable competitor.

But LeBron by this point is clearly the more original, more transcendent, and flat out better more productive ball player. He's got 3 rings as best player on his team, compared to Kobe's 2 rings as the man. And has 3 more MVPs, and one more Finals MVP.

The debate was basically over in 2013, after the 2nd Miami ring it belonged to LeBron. But the past 2 seasons have taken a steaming dump on any sort of discussion.

PeroAntic
10-16-2016, 04:29 PM
If you're arguing for Kobe of course you don't :lol
Its not because Im arguing for Kobe. It really doesnt matter. Shaq doesnt win without Kobe, Kobe doesnt win without Gasol, Wade doesnt win without Lebron, Lebron doesnt win without Kyrie... and all could be vice versa. It takes two great players (at least) to win a championship. The whole idea of 'the man' is a joke and is insulting for the other great players (not to mention coaches) without whom the title would not have been a possibility.

And I dont even intend to be objective or smart. In fact its the opposite, its very subjective. My preference is Kobe because everybody enjoys the game in a different way. Of course Lebron has better stats, nobody argues otherwise.

eliteballer
10-16-2016, 05:39 PM
Kobe didn't need a super team in the weakest conference in history to win rings..

SouBeachTalents
10-16-2016, 06:01 PM
Kobe didn't need a super team in the weakest conference in history to win rings..

Only needed the best player in the world AND best coach in the league for his first 3 titles. And funny how on all of his "superteams", LeBron has been indisputibly the best player every time they've won the title

Big164
10-16-2016, 06:18 PM
I've been saying Wade >>>>>>>>>> The mental midget Ilt Chokerlain. Thanks for agreeing with me.
The day Wade/Lebron average 50 in a season or lead the league in Assists, only then can they start leapfrogging guys with more rings, till then....
http://fullcourtstars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/kobe-bryant-muse-showtime-documentary-01.jpg

Nilocon165
10-16-2016, 06:21 PM
The day Wade/Lebron average 50 in a season or lead the league in Assists, only then can they start leapfrogging guys with more rings, till then....
http://fullcourtstars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/kobe-bryant-muse-showtime-documentary-01.jpg
11 PPG

SouBeachTalents
10-16-2016, 06:23 PM
The day Wade/Lebron average 50 in a season or lead the league in Assists, only then can they start leapfrogging guys with more rings, till then....
http://fullcourtstars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/kobe-bryant-muse-showtime-documentary-01.jpg

So are Sam Jones, Havlicek, & Pippen ranked higher than Kobe?

aj1987
10-16-2016, 06:35 PM
The day Wade/Lebron average 50 in a season or lead the league in Assists, only then can they start leapfrogging guys with more rings.
How about we compare them to Wade and LeBron when they average 34, while winning a chip or leading both teams in all major categories?

LeBron has more rings than the mental midget, BTW.

Big164
10-16-2016, 06:46 PM
So are Sam Jones, Havlicek, & Pippen ranked higher than Kobe?
Come on now.. Its a combination of both, Rings/stats we all know this so stop trolling.

When you look at how Kobe torched TD's Spurs, and the way he torched the Eastern teams that eliminated Lebron in 2009 and 2010, I think he at least deserves the benefit of the doubt. He got 5 rangz. Lebron should step up to the plate and match it, instead of claiming premature victory.

If bron got hit by a bus tommorow, he aint above Kobe, just noot quite there yet

DMAVS41
10-16-2016, 08:53 PM
Come on now.. Its a combination of both, Rings/stats we all know this so stop trolling.

When you look at how Kobe torched TD's Spurs, and the way he torched the Eastern teams that eliminated Lebron in 2009 and 2010, I think he at least deserves the benefit of the doubt. He got 5 rangz. Lebron should step up to the plate and match it, instead of claiming premature victory.

If bron got hit by a bus tommorow, he aint above Kobe, just noot quite there yet

You won't find more than 10 percent of basketball all time rankings that would have Kobe over Lebron after the finals a few months ago. Honestly...10 percent is probably high.

The debate is over. Lebron was/is simply a better player...and now he has the on paper resume that exceeds Kobe as well.

Nothing left to argue about.

Big164
10-16-2016, 09:11 PM
Prisoner of the moment.

Look at it objectively you'll see a 3 ring colluder vs a 5 ring warrior. Like I say, if Bron got hit by a bus tommorow he'd be lucky to make the top 10. 2016 was Kyrie's coming out party, and as years pass and realize how great Kyrie is, he'll be given just due credit for that ring.

AirBonner
10-16-2016, 09:18 PM
Prisoner of the moment.

Look at it objectively you'll see a 3 ring colluder vs a 5 ring warrior. Like I say, if Bron got hit by a bus tommorow he'd be lucky to make the top 10. 2016 was Kyrie's coming out party, and as years pass and realize how great Kyrie is, he'll be given just due credit for that ring.
Kobe bitched his way onto the lakers before he was even in the league :coleman: then when he had to carry the team he bitched and threatened to leave until they got gasol for pennies. I agree you got to look at it objectively. One brings championships to whatever city he goes to. The other one went to the championship city.

GimmeThat
10-30-2016, 04:48 AM
it was settled when they attended the same summer camp as to how they decided to spend their off-season

SouBeachTalents
10-30-2016, 04:58 AM
it was settled when they attended the same summer camp as to how they decided to spend their off-season

Makes absolutely no fuccing sense, as always

Mr Feeny
10-30-2016, 10:36 AM
You won't find more than 10 percent of basketball all time rankings that would have Kobe over Lebron after the finals a few months ago. Honestly...10 percent is probably high.

The debate is over. Lebron was/is simply a better player...and now he has the on paper resume that exceeds Kobe as well.

Nothing left to argue about.It was over by 2012. By this point, it's an insult to Lebron to mention the Mr 1/20 in the same sentence :lebronamazed:

Da Real Lambo
10-30-2016, 12:31 PM
One forged his legacy upon joining superstars. The other one by getting rid of them.

It was never a debate.

Jasper
10-30-2016, 12:37 PM
Lebron is clear cut the better player and has had a better career so far as well. Literally no debate.

Lebron is top 3 all time, while Kobe is only arguably top 12.
Bron 2 rings away from mount rushmore..... (which I think he has 1-2 left in him)


But has more hardware than Kobe, as both out of high school.

Jasper
10-30-2016, 12:38 PM
So are Sam Jones, Havlicek, & Pippen ranked higher than Kobe?
Of course.

Jasper
10-30-2016, 12:39 PM
3 out 5 owned by Shaq
http://fullcourtstars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/kobe-bryant-muse-showtime-documentary-01.jpg
FIXED

SwayDizzle
10-30-2016, 01:31 PM
One forged his legacy upon joining superstars. The other one by getting rid of them.

It was never a debate.
wow post of the year nominee :eek: :eek: :eek:

riseagainst
10-30-2016, 03:02 PM
Bron 2 rings away from mount rushmore..... (which I think he has 1-2 left in him)


But has more hardware than Kobe, as both out of high school.


Lebron is already on the mount rushmore of NBA players.

greatest-ever
10-30-2016, 03:08 PM
It was settled after either the 13 or 14 season to most, at this point only delusional Kobe stans, or hardcore Lebron haters still have Kobe higher. I mean Lebron not only has several seasons better than Kobe's best but his longevity isn't really any worse.

Mr Feeny
10-30-2016, 04:23 PM
It was settled after either the 13 or 14 season to most, at this point only delusional Kobe stans, or hardcore Lebron haters still have Kobe higher. I mean Lebron not only has several seasons better than Kobe's best but his longevity isn't really any worse.

Lebron already has better longevity. Kobe was only an elite player from 2001-2004, 2006-2010, 2013. 10 years.

Lebron's 10 year stretch from 20007-2016 has been better than Kobe's best ten years and in fact, you could make the case that Lebron was top echelon in 2005-2006 as well.

feyki
10-30-2016, 05:15 PM
hardcore Lebron haters

Ohhh yeahh Baby.

JT123
10-30-2016, 05:26 PM
Lebron already has better longevity. Kobe was only an elite player from 2001-2004, 2006-2010, 2013. 10 years.

Lebron's 10 year stretch from 20007-2016 has been better than Kobe's best ten years and in fact, you could make the case that Lebron was top echelon in 2005-2006 as well.
As much as it hurts me to admit, this is post is pure truth. :(

IllegalD
10-30-2016, 07:05 PM
[B]Shaquille O

swagga
10-30-2016, 07:09 PM
One forged his legacy upon joining superstars. The other one by getting rid of them.

It was never a debate.

so one worked in the interest of the team while the other ran away talent .. this man speaks the truth :oldlol:

IllegalD
10-30-2016, 07:49 PM
so one worked in the interest of the team while the other ran away talent .. this man speaks the truth :oldlol:


One did it the oldschool Jordan/Magic/Bird way of sticking with one franchise for your entire career and taking your lumps when things looked grim.

The other literally created a new era of Bananaboat/Instagram Buddy Collusionists which has destroyed competitive basketball as we knew it.

SouBeachTalents
10-30-2016, 08:07 PM
One did it the oldschool Jordan/Magic/Bird way of sticking with one franchise for your entire career and taking your lumps when things looked grim.

The other literally created a new era of Bananaboat/Instagram Buddy Collusionists which has destroyed competitive basketball as we knew it.

This really is the biggest fallacy of Kobe's career. Dude had Shaq for 8 straight years (with Phil for 5 of those), then at the first hint of adversity he demanded a trade after just 3 seasons without a contending team surrounding him

I always do laugh at these examples, comparing the '04-'10 Cavs to the likes of the McHale/Parish Celtics & Kareem/Worthy Lakers :oldlol:

NBAGOAT
10-30-2016, 08:24 PM
This really is the biggest fallacy of Kobe's career. Dude had Shaq for 8 straight years (with Phil for 5 of those), then at the first hint of adversity he demanded a trade after just 3 seasons without a contending team surrounding him

I always do laugh at these examples, comparing the '04-'10 Cavs to the likes of the McHale/Parish Celtics & Kareem/Worthy Lakers :oldlol:

and this is why Laker fans think they have it rough. They think Kobe's prime was really rough when it's really only 3 years. Yea, it's kind of too bad Kobe had 3 years of his prime waste with no chance at a ting but there are definitely all time greats who've had it worse.

LAZERUSS
10-30-2016, 08:29 PM
Shaquille O’Neal (September 7th, 2016):

[on Kobe]

“You don’t know how good you got something until it’s gone. When I left L.A. I got DWade, similar type of player. But when I went on after that I was like, ‘You know what? I had the greatest player ever.’ We could’ve won 6, 7 championships together. You live and you learn.”



“I’d probably have to go with the Kobester. ‘Cause his attitude was Jordan-like. He was able to take over games, especially in the 4th quarter. For example: when I tested Kobe out for his last game I said, ‘Kobe, I need you to hit 50.’ He said, “Nah, I’m not gonna’ do it.” But when he saw me there and he started going he said, ‘You know what? You want me to get 50, Big Dawg? I’ll do it for you.’ And he’s always had that ability. It’ll be times in the games, especially in the playoffs, where I’m not really going or I’m tired, and I’d be like, ‘Kobe, I need you to take over.’ And he would take over every time. 50 out of 50 times. It was never a time where I asked Kobe to take over the game and he didn’t perform. So, to answer your question I gotta’ go with the Kobester.”

Source:
https://youtu.be/yQEmPj0rAnE?t=700
https://youtu.be/yQEmPj0rAnE?t=971




Charles Barkley (August 26th, 2016):

[on Kobe vs LeBron]

“The only problem I have with it, I don’t know how he just passes Kobe Bryant and Tim Duncan … Now if he wins a couple more championships, yeah he’s in that conversation, but that’s a long way to go.”


Source:
http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1086516-barkley-lebron-is-no-bryant-or-duncan-let-alone-jordan




Mugsy Bogues (August 23rd, 2016):

[who should star in Space Jam 2?]

"I heard Michael say he would like to see Blake Griffin star as him, but I would've thought Kobe (Bryant) would kind of fit that mold more.”

Source:
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article97436592.html




Allen Iverson (August 21st, 2016):

Iverson recently sat down with rapper Jadakiss for a wide-ranging interview that touched on a number of topics, including his top five players of all-time -- though Iverson was hard-pressed to settle on a fifth.
"Mike [Jordan], Shaq [O'Neal], Kobe [Bryant], LeBron [James]. [The fifth one] could be a lot of dudes," he said.

Source:
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17359764/allen-iverson-picks-favorite-nba-players-all-today




Stephen Jackson (August 9th, 2016):

[on LeBron]

“He is definitely in my mind one of the Top 5 players to ever play the game, if not Top 3 behind Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant.”

Source:
http://*********.com/2016/08/09/stephen-jackson-butler-and-rondo-want-me-on-the-bulls/




Trevor Ariza & Jason Terry (July 20th, 2016):

Trevor Ariza & Jason Terry just agreed on @SiriusXMNBA that Kobe is best player of the generation over both Duncan & Lebron.

Source:
https://twitter.com/TermineRadio/status/755920615073198080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw




Kyrie Irving (July 19th, 2016):

“In terms of a mental approach, as well as some technical stuff about the game, I’ll always go to Kobe, because he’s as polished as they come. If you’re talking about a who literally just physically imposed himself on the game every single day, and that mindset, oh I definitely going to talk Kobe.”

Source:
http://nba.nbcsports.com/2016/07/19/kyrie-irving-on-what-drew-him-to-facetime-with-kobe-in-terms-of-a-mental-approach-ill-always-go-to-kobe/




Charles Barkley (June 20th, 2016):

"The 5 greatest players in my opinion are: Michael, Oscar Robertson, Bill Russell, Kareem, and Wilt. I have Kobe at 6. I got Tim Duncan at 7. And then you've got LeBron, Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, Magic, and Bird. They're in that group, you put them where you want to. But I'm not just gonna' automatically put LeBron past Kobe as far as this generation. As far as Kobe and Tim Duncan. Those guys got 5 world championships. LeBron has 3, which is amazing. But I don't live in the moment. I'm not gonna' just say, 'Wait a minute, I'm gonna' move him past Kobe and Tim Duncan now.' I mean, I'm just not gonna' do that."

Source:
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=16363278




Kyrie Irving (June 20th, 2016):

[on Game 7 Finals Game-Winner]

“That moment right there happened, and I was like ‘ok, I’m fine’ ” Irving said. “And all I was thinking about in the back of my mind was Mamba mentality. Just Mamba mentality, that’s all I was thinking.”

Source:
http://www.si.com/nba/2016/06/20/nba-finals-cleveland-cavaliers-golden-state-warriors-mamba-mentality




ESPN.COM POLL:

[B]Best Player Since Jordan?

Kobe: 48%
LeBron: 35%

http://www.espn.com/sportsnation/story/_/id/17489819/kobe-bryant-nba-best-player-michael-jordan



NOPE! :no:

It's still a debate, and will be a debate forever no matter what LeBron does. That's what the weirdly insecure LeStanley's don't get. :roll:

Damn! The LeChoke fans have been using ESPN against the TRUE all-time greats in the last couple of months. NOW we see that even they believe that Kobe was the better player after Jordan.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

BTW, I JUST moved the Jester up to #8, and moved Kobe to #9 on my all-time list. They are both VERY CLOSE (as are Bird and a Dr. J if you include his ABA years.)

In any case, the Kobe-haters love to use Shaq against him in his "five" rings (even though it was KOBE who carried the Lakers thru the West in TWO of those title runs). Well, when you factor in just how pathetic four of LePuke's Finals were, and then add in that he had TEAMMATES make the biggest shots in two more, and three rings aren't as impressive as the Shrinkage fans would claim.

Bookmarking the ESPN site.

warriorfan
10-30-2016, 08:29 PM
Kobe is the Jordan of the 2000's

LeBron is the Elgin Baylor of the 2000's

Kawhi Not?
10-30-2016, 08:47 PM
They were always two completely different players. If I were to start a team from scratch I would definitely take Lebron.

Mr Feeny
10-31-2016, 03:38 AM
They were always two completely different players. If I were to start a team from scratch I would definitely take Lebron.

Who wouldn't? He's a top 2-3 player all time.

The other guy is 12th-13th. This isn't exactly tough.

knicksman
10-31-2016, 04:30 AM
More role player rings. Congrats.


yeah coz colluded rings are more valuable. LOL

knicksman
10-31-2016, 04:31 AM
Kobe is the Jordan of the 2000's

LeBron is the Elgin Baylor of the 2000's


This. the wilt of this era. Respected by low iq losers but laugh at by alphas:lol