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Draz
10-16-2016, 07:08 AM
@ Fiddy Hook me up with some hair supplements.

Past 7 years I've been thinning by the vortex on the back. Shit is getting terrible. My confidence has taken a HUGE hit. In sunlight, since I'm pretty lightskinned, my scalp shows. My barber's been cutting my hair for almost 7 years and said my hairs been the same since he first started cutting me, with the addition that it looks worse.

I don't know whats going on. I haven't done a blood test since 2012, fcking hate needles. I'll get one done soon to see if its iron or thyroid.

I honestly don't know what to do. I'm suffering from deep depression from this shit. I have severe stress from outside this issue alone.

I was thinking it was this (https://www.drugs.com/health-guide/telogen-effluvium.html) condition

I started back Biotin 10,000mcg again.
Rarely take omega 3 because I hear excessive vitamin A can cause hair follicles to stay asleep past its resting cycle

I don't know. I don't want to tale min/fin in fear of losing my sex drive and having to take it for the rest of my life, the fear of it not working past 3-6 years.

It's gotten to the point where I'm considering hair transplant. I do have the money.

I'm a sensitive ass period right now, be cautious with the trolling :mad: :cry:

I have no other options. No where to go. I stopped researching this shit because it makes me more stressed out. I'm wondering if its something I'm eating that I'm probably allergic to. I feel like shit. I feel less valuable and more ugly. This first arrived at 17 when a friend pointed it out. I'd think I'd go bald already by 24 no?

My mothers father has the same issue. He's 74 and his hair is extremely thin by the vortex but he isn't bald.

There's this girl I'm talking to. She loves me to death. We haven't talked about this. She pointed out my hair is thin after a few days of me bringing it up. She never brought it up again. She doesn't know the fears or what I'm suffering from deep down inside. She brought me around her family twice, last night being the second encounter.

I'm thinking, if this is me balding, she HAS to love me that much to accept that. I'm sure she's seen. The area is above my head, you can't really see from below or the sides. Because of that, I'm also on the edge of having to take her seriously because she has that much faith in me through all of that.

As I mentioned earlier, I'm really thinking it's the stress.

Draz
10-16-2016, 07:18 AM
These are the amino acids I'm coming across


Arginine - Stimulates hair growth through the vasodilatory effect of Nitrous oxide; strengthens hair shaft and stimulates hair follicles.
Methionine - Supplies needed sulfur to the hair for improved appearance and healthy growth.
Cysteine - Improves hair strength through the contribution of sulfur
Cystine - Promotes natural hair growth and strengthens hair shafts with its disulfide bond.
Tyrosine - Contributes melanine to the skin and hair; improves general health by reducing the levels of stress hormones.
Taurine - Provides sulfur for hair growth and appearance; prevents breakdown of hair follicles.

Source (http://www.progressivehealth.com/amino-acids-hair-loss.htm)

I have 500mg of argnine, but I'm hearing this can also put your hair follicles in the resting phases.

Back in May for a month or two, I realized my hair started getting fcked up because of creatine when I was working out. It HAS to be the creatine that impacted me so much. I'd take 5g's of it a day or two. That's when the issue arrived when my thin hair for even worst.

LJJ
10-16-2016, 09:02 AM
This explains so much.

knickballer
10-16-2016, 09:27 AM
Sounds like Minoxidil/Rogaine would be your best option. Contrary to what you might think there's actually no side effects of it and it especially doesn't alter your sex drive or emotions. However, it's a "steroid" and you'll have to be taking it every day and if you stop using it you'll lose what ever gains you have. Rogaine/Minoxidil has proven results especially in thinning areas on or around the crown.

Other than that I would also suggest eating healthier(probably won't even help) but if you think it's something else maybe a correction of diet can help.

sd3035
10-16-2016, 09:30 AM
You're ugly either way so there's nothing to worry about

fiddy
10-16-2016, 09:48 AM
These are the amino acids I'm coming across



Source (http://www.progressivehealth.com/amino-acids-hair-loss.htm)

I have 500mg of argnine, but I'm hearing this can also put your hair follicles in the resting phases.

Back in May for a month or two, I realized my hair started getting fcked up because of creatine when I was working out. It HAS to be the creatine that impacted me so much. I'd take 5g's of it a day or two. That's when the issue arrived when my thin hair for even worst.

Try to ejaculate less, as when you сum part of your testosterone gets converted into dihydrotestosterone (DHT), which damages the follicles. Get a hair growth stimulation shampoo like Revita, which removes the DHT from the follicles. Also minoxidil is said to work, but i have no experience with it. Also from the other thread, if you decide to get some histidine, you should not take it with Methionine as it blocks it.

http://www.skinstore.com/ds-laboratories-revita-shampoo-180ml/10282091.html


Water, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Coco Glucoside, Caffeine, Pyrus Malus Seed Extract (Apple), Aspalathus Linearis (Rooibos/Red Tea) Leaf Extract (Roobios), Apple Polyphenol (Procyanidin B-2), Ketoconazole, Hydorlyzed Wheat Protein, Carnitine HCl, Ornitine HCl, Acetyl Cysteine, Dimethyl Sulfone (Methylsulfonyl Methane), Taurine, Emu Oil, Biotin (Vitamin H), Copper Peptides, Aloe Vera (Aloe Barbadensis) Leaf Juice (Spray Dried), Glycereth 7, Glycerin, Oleanolic Acid, Polyquaternium 10, Glycol Stearate, Menthyl Lactate (Menthol Derivative), EUK-134 (SOD Mimic/Spin Trap), PEG 150 Pentaerythrityl Tetrastearate, PEG 6 Caprylic/Capric Glycerides, Menthol, Zinc PCA, Citric Acid, Sodium Chloride, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone, Tetrasodium EDTA, Red 40 Lake (CI 16035), Blue 1 Lake (CI 42090).

Draz
10-16-2016, 10:01 AM
I honestly don't know what it is. it's just naturally thin hair.

I'm trying to figure out what. if it's my diet, iron, thyroid, or I'm taking my grandfather's thin hair around the crown.

Draz
10-16-2016, 10:14 AM
Try to ejaculate less, as when you сum part of your testosterone gets converted into dihydrotestosterone (DHT), which damages the follicles. Get a hair growth stimulation shampoo like Revita, which removes the DHT from the follicles. Also minoxidil is said to work, but i have no experience with it. Also from the other thread, if you decide to get some histidine, you should not take it with Methionine as it blocks it.

http://www.skinstore.com/ds-laboratories-revita-shampoo-180ml/10282091.html
I'm thinking that might be the issue too. After HS (17/18) I've been having sex 1-3 times a day for 6-7 years. I don't know if this caused unbalance in my DHT levels. My hair would change each year. 3 years ago it was thin, but fine.

I'm strong on this being a stress hormone problem or some shit. I need to get a blood test going.

CelticBaller
10-16-2016, 10:19 AM
Just cut your hair short and prepared to be bald *****


It ain't a big deal

Draz
10-16-2016, 10:30 AM
Just cut your hair short and prepared to be bald *****


It ain't a big deal
That's just the thing though. I don't know if its balding. It's been exactly like this for 7 years. It's naturally thin hair but I want it thicker. I don't MIND how thin it is, but it's unhealthy

fiddy
10-16-2016, 10:52 AM
I'm thinking that might be the issue too. After HS (17/18) I've been having sex 1-3 times a day for 6-7 years. I don't know if this caused unbalance in my DHT levels. My hair would change each year. 3 years ago it was thin, but fine.

I'm strong on this being a stress hormone problem or some shit. I need to get a blood test going.
There is an incredible amount of discussion on the topic, some poor souls even take DHT-inhibitors in an attempt to prevent hair/reverse hair loss. But the most plausible explanation i've read claims that it's all genetics, some people just have strong follicles that are able to sustain DHT, others dont. Btw your grandpa with the thin hair is from your mother's side? If so, you are screwed :oldlol:

Stress is definitely a factor, but im having hard time believing that you get stressed out that much, considering you smoke a lot. :oldlol: I guess you dont smoke cigs? In case you do, quit that shit, also contributes to hairloss.

Draz
10-16-2016, 11:05 AM
There is an incredible amount of discussion on the topic, some poor souls even take DHT-inhibitors in an attempt to prevent hair/reverse hair loss. But the most plausible explanation i've read claims that it's all genetics, some people just have strong follicles that are able to sustain DHT, others dont. Btw your grandpa with the thin hair is from your mother's side? If so, you are screwed :oldlol:

Stress is definitely a factor, but im having hard time believing that you get stressed out that much, considering you smoke a lot. :oldlol: I guess you dont smoke cigs? In case you do, quit that shit, also contributes to hairloss.

The past 2-3 years I've been smoking weed probably 2-3 a week MAX, on my minimum, 1 x a week. This past month, I'm cold turkey. I'm wondering if that played a roll.

I do understand hair follicles / hair cycles adjust every 3-4 months.

And yeah, my grandfather on my moms side. My fathers hair is thick. My dads dad is good. My moms dad has extremely curly hair, but his vortex is thinned, not bald. My moms brothers have thin hair like mine by the vortex, but they cut their hair short, it looks somewhat normal for their age.

I'm wondering if this thin hair would lead to balding when I'm 30-40 because it looks thin asf right now. I've done some research and some people said they've had thin hair since their teens and still have the same exact thin hair approaching mid 30's and 40's.

My aunt (moms sister) has had thyroid.

As I mentioned earlier, I haven't done a blood test since 2012.. I do recall the results saying I had thick blood because my mother would insist on me taking baby asprins to thin it.

Nick Young
10-16-2016, 03:33 PM
i heard that rogaine works but I don't know it it's true. I read though that once you start it you can never go off as it will accelerate balding as soon as you stop taking it.

eliteballer
10-16-2016, 05:25 PM
I have severe stress from outside this issue alone.


That's the reason, cut out the stress.

G-train
10-16-2016, 06:09 PM
You are just going bald, like plenty of people do.
Shave it off once a week.

warriorfan
10-16-2016, 07:45 PM
Hate to break it to you but it sounds like you are ****ed

Rocketswin2013
10-16-2016, 07:54 PM
biotin and other supplements won't recover an actively thinning head.

your best bet is minoxidil. it'll maximize your hair length and thickness. revive some dead follicles and/or extremely thin follicles on the verge of death. but even that won't stop the issue.

the issue is your genetics. your hair follicles are sensitive to the dht that is created and released through testosterone. the only way to stop that is to use finasteride/dutasteride which inhibits dht and that is dangerous shit. it's pretty chancy. I did it myself and I wish I hadn't. Despite the incredible gains I had(which have faded since the last time I used it. year or so ago).

it's just not worth it. dht is too important. you are looking up this stuff about fixing it because you're panicking but eventually you will run across fin/minox as an option if you haven't already and I'm warning you it's not worth it.

eat better, maybe used minox but don't use finasteride/dutasteride, ever. unless you're willing to risk your health(not in life-threatening ways, but quality of life ways).

plowking
10-16-2016, 07:54 PM
You're going bald... Get over it?

G-train
10-16-2016, 08:01 PM
biotin and other supplements won't recover an actively thinning head.

your best bet is minoxidil. it'll maximize your hair length and thickness. revive some dead follicles and/or extremely thin follicles on the verge of death. but even that won't stop the issue.

the issue is your genetics. your hair follicles are sensitive to the dht that is created and released through testosterone. the only way to stop that is to use finasteride/dutasteride which inhibits dht and that is dangerous shit. it's pretty chancy. I did it myself and I wish I hadn't. Despite the incredible gains I had(which have faded since the last time I used it. year or so ago).

it's just not worth it. dht is too important. you are looking up this stuff about fixing it because you're panicking but eventually you will run across fin/minox as an option if you haven't already and I'm warning you it's not worth it.

eat better, maybe used minox but don't use finasteride/dutasteride, ever. unless you're willing to risk your health(not in life-threatening ways, but quality of life ways).

The best thing to do is embrace it like Vin Diesel, The Rock, Michael Jordan.........

Draz
10-16-2016, 08:16 PM
I'm just hoping for it to be iron levels, thyroid or just simply thin hair. it's been like this for 7 years or more I'm just afraid it'll get worst by 28-30.

god dam. wanted to stay beautiful forever

Draz
10-16-2016, 08:45 PM
LeBron definitely did hair transplant surgery

Bosnian Sajo
10-16-2016, 08:48 PM
This explains so much.

:rolleyes:

imdaman99
10-16-2016, 11:14 PM
The best thing to do is embrace it like Vin Diesel, The Rock, Michael Jordan.........
It's easy to embrace it like someone like those guys or Jason Statham... when they are rich and famous and women still dying to bend over for them :lol

My man Draz, just bite the bullet and get a hair transplant. You say money ain't an issue, I know someone that got it and his hair is legit awesome now. He used to be thinning since his early 20s.

fiddy
10-16-2016, 11:21 PM
It's easy to embrace it like someone like those guys or Jason Statham... when they are rich and famous and women still dying to bend over for them :lol

My man Draz, just bite the bullet and get a hair transplant. You say money ain't an issue, I know someone that got it and his hair is legit awesome now. He used to be thinning since his early 20s.
Why waste the money before even trying hair stimulation products like Revita or Rogaine?

Btw Draz if you decide to get a hair growth stimulation shampoo, you had to let it sit on your hair for like 10-15 minutes, so the its ingredients get absorbed in the skin properly. Not just wash it after 30 sec.

Draz
10-16-2016, 11:45 PM
Oh 15 mins?

I'm using pura D'or the gold edition

with the conditioner

Draz
10-16-2016, 11:45 PM
It's easy to embrace it like someone like those guys or Jason Statham... when they are rich and famous and women still dying to bend over for them :lol

My man Draz, just bite the bullet and get a hair transplant. You say money ain't an issue, I know someone that got it and his hair is legit awesome now. He used to be thinning since his early 20s.
ask him what transplant he got? fut or fue
and where did he get the transplant for

dude77
10-17-2016, 03:09 AM
biotin and other supplements won't recover an actively thinning head.

your best bet is minoxidil. it'll maximize your hair length and thickness. revive some dead follicles and/or extremely thin follicles on the verge of death. but even that won't stop the issue.

the issue is your genetics. your hair follicles are sensitive to the dht that is created and released through testosterone. the only way to stop that is to use finasteride/dutasteride which inhibits dht and that is dangerous shit. it's pretty chancy. I did it myself and I wish I hadn't. Despite the incredible gains I had(which have faded since the last time I used it. year or so ago).

it's just not worth it. dht is too important. you are looking up this stuff about fixing it because you're panicking but eventually you will run across fin/minox as an option if you haven't already and I'm warning you it's not worth it.

eat better, maybe used minox but don't use finasteride/dutasteride, ever. unless you're willing to risk your health(not in life-threatening ways, but quality of life ways).

you're talking about fkn with your boners right ?

it's crazy that shit is even offered to men for their stupid hair .. I've read trannies have used finasteride in their transitions .. just fkn nuts .. fkn doctors and pharmaceuticals are all about the $$$ .. your true health be damned

Rocketswin2013
10-17-2016, 03:11 AM
you're talking about fkn with your boners right ?
all kinds of stuff man. but yes, I had a bad stretch with that. luckily I fully recovered.

pastis
10-17-2016, 04:58 AM
Go and inform you about hairloss minoxidil/finasterid on sites like "hairlosstalk.com". There you have real specialist, way more informed than your average dermatologist.

if i were you:

1. try the "big 3" = minox, fin, ket-shampoo. Inform you about fin and its side-effects (ca. 2-4% have side-effects)

2. Never consider making a hair transplantation BEFORE STOPPING hairloss

fiddy
10-17-2016, 05:14 AM
you're talking about fkn with your boners right ?

it's crazy that shit is even offered to men for their stupid hair .. I've read trannies have used finasteride in their transitions .. just fkn nuts .. fkn doctors and pharmaceuticals are all about the $$$ .. your true health be damned
DHT is one of the main androgenic hormones and inhibiting it has wide implications from psychological to physiological one. DHT is responsible for muscle density, body hair, erection strength, voice thickness, etc. On the psychological side of things, the picture looks even worse



DHT regulates alpha and beta adrenergic receptors.
DHT may increase alpha-1-receptor density.
DHT may decrease glutamate activity and increases mGLU7 expression (which increases GABA release)
DHT increases serotonin 5-HT1A receptor density by influencing A1-Adr.Receptors.
DHT promotes serotonin 5-HT1A/1B activity and may reduce aggression in the presence of serotonin. Although this may easily be over ridden by the pro-adrenergic effects of DHT.
DHT increases beta-endorphin release by ^ 5-HT1A receptor indirect activation.
DHT facilitates the release of Epinephrine (adrenaline).
DHT increases cyclic AMP.
DHT blocks estrogen-induced prolactin release.
DHT reduces serotonin and serotonin receptors by inhibiting estrogen influence in the Brain. (but mainly acting to oppose 5-HT2A,2C and 5-HT4 receptors)
DHT increases Mitogen-Activated-Protein Kinase (MAPK) which leads to a variety of molecular changes and genomic changes as well as neural-changes; decreased serotonin activity in the brain and periphery.
DHT increases GABA and GABA-A (neurosteroid-specific) receptor expression.
DHT increases NMDA-receptors in the Hippocampus.
DHT increases Ca3 (Calcium) evoked Acetylcholine Function(AcH release).
DHT increases nervous system strength and regulates blood pressure.

https://area1255.blogspot.bg/2013/06/exclusive-what-how-of-dht.html

You can look up individually the function of every neurotransmitter/receptor cited above, to grasp how moronic taking DHT inhibitors is, in exchange they barely even work. A safer alternative IMO is taking inhibitors for the 5α-reductases enzyne, which is responsible for the conversion of DHT, like astaxanthin. The libido takes a small hit, but the substance is one of the more powerful anti-oxidants known beyond its inhibitory functions.

brownmamba00
10-17-2016, 09:13 AM
Damn. I've been having the same issue my hairline still looks good but my scalphair is fading away Only 24 y/o :coleman: :cry:

try out minoxidil it's cheap and handy to use.

doc said it's probably because of high nerves and stress...also said it could be strictly genetical or even testosterone related.

Jasper
10-17-2016, 04:51 PM
I was told , girls like hairlines, and balding , it makes them feel superior , and confident that the guy has security.

Flat tops they are scared of , they think drill sarg's will order them around.

Jasper
10-17-2016, 04:52 PM
Damn. I've been having the same issue my hairline still looks good but my scalphair is fading away Only 24 y/o :coleman: :cry:

try out minoxidil it's cheap and handy to use.

doc said it's probably because of high nerves and stress...also said it could be strictly genetical or even testosterone related.

I read a stufy that the x, y, and z generation will all be bald by 30 because they can't handle life :wtf: