The best defender at the Point guard position

[juju151111]

1.Ricky Rubio
2.Cp3
3.patrick Beverley
4.Lowry
5.Conley

[zeerghit]

1.Ricky Rubio
2.Cp3
3.patrick Beverley
4.Lowry
5.Conley

1.cp3
2.Conley
3.Wall
4.Hill
5.Lowry

[bdreason]

Conley and CP3.

[CuterThanRubio]

If this man isn't in your top 5 your opinion is irrelevant and inaccurate

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[juju151111]

1.cp3
2.Conley
3.Wall
4.Hill
5.Lowry
How do you have so many people over ricky Rubio.

[BigKAT]

1.cp3
2.Conley
3.Wall
4.Hill
5.Lowry

I don't think Lowry belongs in this conversation nowdays.
His Offensive toll really saw him loosen up on defense imo.

And about Wall
Very capable when he wants to be, but I see him gamble for steals way too often. Also he sometimes seems to be chasing blocks, leaving his man open with excessive help defense.

But yeah he's solid other than that.

Also Rubio's fantastic, I think he should be considered for Top 5.

[juju151111]

I don't think Lowry belongs in this conversation nowdays.
His Offensive toll really saw him loosen up on defense imo.

And about Wall
Very capable when he wants to be, but I see him gamble for steals way too often. Also he sometimes seems to be chasing blocks, leaving his man open with excessive help defense.

But yeah he's solid other than that.

Also Rubio's fantastic, I think he should be considered for Top 5.
Rubio should be top 3. Idk why people consoder him averge.

[Xiao Yao You]

Exum has been looking great in pre-season.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Beverely, CP3, and Conley ... no one else deserves mention

[Theoo]

dragic

[SugarHill]

Beverely, CP3, and Conley ... no one else deserves mention
Wall?

[SamuraiSWISH]

Wall?
Passing lanes doesn't equate to good defender. See Iverson's gaudy steal per game numbers. Yet the second Denver switched him up for just a quality man defender in Billups, who doesn't gamble and stays in front of his man? Their defense got infinitely better.

[juju151111]

Beverely, CP3, and Conley ... no one else deserves mention
Not saying those are not good defenders, but lets take Beverley. Why do you think he better then Rubio. I think Rubio is getting way downplayed because he never on TV and he white so people think he averge. Rubio might be the best PG defender in the league.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Has nothing to do with white or underrated. From like 2006 - 2010 one of the best on ball defenders who was never adequately praised was Kirk Hinrich. Who I loved to watch. Beverely just clearly applies more pressure and visibly frustrates even star players. Rubio can't do that man.

[Smoke117]

Passing lanes doesn't equate to good defender. See Iverson's gaudy steal per game numbers. Yet the second Denver switched him up for just a quality man defender in Billups, who doesn't gamble and stays in front of his man? Their defense got infinitely better.

John wall is a much better than Iverson was. If you think all he does is gamble in the passing lanes then you clearly don't watch the Wizards play. His main problem right now is staying focused, but he's a very physically imposing defensive player when he wants to be.

[juju151111]

Has nothing to do with white or underrated. From like 2006 - 2010 one of the best on ball defenders who was never adequately praised was Kirk Hinrich. Who I loved to watch. Beverely just clearly applies more pressure and visibly frustrates even star players. Rubio can't do that man.
Another BS post but this seems like someone who just doesn't watch him play. Your right on Kirk too. Rubio applies the same pressure,runs great around screens and take chargers. His on ball defense numbers are great. 2015 he led PG in drapm and this year he was 2nd.

[CuterThanRubio]

Has nothing to do with white or underrated. From like 2006 - 2010 one of the best on ball defenders who was never adequately praised was Kirk Hinrich. Who I loved to watch. Beverely just clearly applies more pressure and visibly frustrates even star players. Rubio can't do that man.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAjSVCVgUKE

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Rubio frustrating Curry in the upset win

Baseless claims from people who only have seen youtube highlights, don't do it to yourself like that

[Uncle Drew]

If this man isn't in your top 5 your opinion is irrelevant and inaccurate

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Jameer Nelson isn't that good.

[SamuraiSWISH]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAjSVCVgUKE

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Rubio frustrating Curry in the upset win

Baseless claims from people who only have seen youtube highlights, don't do it to yourself like that
Curry plays better defense than Rubio in that entire video. And he's an average defender himself, AT BEST. There is even plays where Rubio gets lost off the ball for back door cuts.

:facepalm

I also don't honestly think Curry is tough to guard, in isolation. That offense spreads teams so thin with their versatility and shooting, only then does he become difficult to defend. Steph by himself isn't particularly explosive going down hill with attacking dribble moves.

As a defender you can almost exclusively expect a dribble combo for a step back with him. So I don't get why defenders don't just sit in his breathing space, and make him beat you off the bounce attacking the basket. 20th year Kobe did it, couldn't even move laterally, and he had Steph in a straight jacket.

It's why individually, guys like Kyrie, Dame, and Westbrook are far more difficult to guard at that position.

Rubio isn't close to Beverely, CP3 or Conley as a defender. Keep trying though.

[DaHeezy]

Avery Bradley?

[SamuraiSWISH]

Avery Bradley?
Another good mention, forgot him somehow. Rubio? :oldlol:

[Smoke117]

Avery Bradley would be considered a sg and not a pg.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Avery Bradley would be considered a sg and not a pg.
Lol he's a 6'2 PG dude ... The **** are you drinking tonight? Everclear? Hand sanitizer?

[Smoke117]

Lol he's a 6'2 PG dude ... The **** are you drinking tonight? Everclear? Hand sanitizer?

So? He has zero skills that a pg needs and has never played that role. He guards opposing sg's not pg's...he's an undersized sg, period. Oh and nice personal attack, coach.

[1manfastbreak]

Avery Bradley is better than everyone mentioned.

Dude straight hounds people.

[feyki]

Eric Bledsoe .

[CuterThanRubio]

Curry plays better defense than Rubio in that entire video. And he's an average defender himself, AT BEST. There is even plays where Rubio gets lost off the ball for back door cuts.

:facepalm

I also don't honestly think Curry is tough to guard, in isolation. That offense spreads teams so thin with their versatility and shooting, only then does he become difficult to defend. Steph by himself isn't particularly explosive going down hill with attacking dribble moves.

As a defender you can almost exclusively expect a dribble combo for a step back with him. So I don't get why defenders don't just sit in his breathing space, and make him beat you off the bounce attacking the basket. 20th year Kobe did it, couldn't even move laterally, and he had Steph in a straight jacket.

It's why individually, guys like Kyrie, Dame, and Westbrook are far more difficult to guard at that position.

Rubio isn't close to Beverely, CP3 or Conley as a defender. Keep trying though.

Mindfvcked you into an off topic Steph Curry rant with ease!

I never claimed he was the best, but he is top 5, factual statement!

[AirBonner]

Marcus Smart. None of the the pg's listed are as versatile. I don't picture any of them shutting down Paul Millsap in the playoffs like he did.

[juju151111]

Curry plays better defense than Rubio in that entire video. And he's an average defender himself, AT BEST. There is even plays where Rubio gets lost off the ball for back door cuts.

:facepalm

I also don't honestly think Curry is tough to guard, in isolation. That offense spreads teams so thin with their versatility and shooting, only then does he become difficult to defend. Steph by himself isn't particularly explosive going down hill with attacking dribble moves.

As a defender you can almost exclusively expect a dribble combo for a step back with him. So I don't get why defenders don't just sit in his breathing space, and make him beat you off the bounce attacking the basket. 20th year Kobe did it, couldn't even move laterally, and he had Steph in a straight jacket.

It's why individually, guys like Kyrie, Dame, and Westbrook are far more difficult to guard at that position.

Rubio isn't close to Beverely, CP3 or Conley as a defender. Keep trying though.
BS Rubio is just has good or better.

[BigKAT]

Marcus Smart. None of the the pg's listed are as versatile. I don't picture any of them shutting down Paul Millsap in the playoffs like he did.


Man that was one of the best playoff moment outside of the finals for me.
The balls on Brad stevens to try that, damn.

Also that atmosphere at the garden, yeah I saw it on TV but it looked freaking electric. Really hope the C's get to the 2nd round this season, would love to see them progress further.

[JohnMax]

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[juju151111]

Another good mention, forgot him somehow. Rubio? :oldlol:
How you dismissive of Rubio. Lets move to the stats then.
1st in steals percentage drapm last year and 2nd this year.1st % the point guards Rubio faced during the 2014-15 season only averaged 14.4 points per game and only shot 37%.

[CuterThanRubio]

How you dismissive of Rubio. Lets move to the stats then.
1st in PG drapm last year and 2nd this year.1st % the point guards Rubio faced during the 2014-15 season only averaged 14.4 points per game and only shot 37%.


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[CakeorDeath]

Dante Exum was historically good defensively his rookie year, and has looked good so far in the preseason.

Too early to fully endorse him for this award, but if he keeps up his play (or, hopefully, gets better) he has the potential to be the league's best defensive point guard by a mile.

[Xiao Yao You]

Dante Exum was historically good defensively his rookie year, and has looked good so far in the preseason.

Too early to fully endorse him for this award, but if he keeps up his play (or, hopefully, gets better) he has the potential to be the league's best defensive point guard by a mile.

He was historically bad offensively too though. The Jazz have too much talent now for him to be playing if he can't contribute offensively consistently. Their depth at the one and their injuries on the wing might have him guarding bigger players too.

[AirBonner]

He was historically bad offensively too though. The Jazz have too much talent now for him to be playing if he can't contribute offensively consistently. Their depth at the one and their injuries on the wing might have him guarding bigger players too.
This. Being the Tony Allen of pg's will eventually make him a bench player. Which is not bad.

[DaHeezy]

Avery Bradley would be considered a sg and not a pg.
He's as much of SG as Steph.
Bradley is the best PG defender bar none. In fact I'm calling him out as DPOY 2017

[ClipperRevival]

CP3
Bledsoe
Conley

[ralph_i_el]

1-on-1 D I think you have an argument for leaving Wall out of the top-5

as a team defender, and in terms of versatility, I would have him top-5. He has trouble playing 1-on-1 with "waterbug" point guards (little quick guys with quick triggers). Basically Isaiah Thomas type guys can give him trouble some times.

I am ok with OP's list

[Xiao Yao You]

This. Being the Tony Allen of pg's will eventually make him a bench player. Which is not bad.

He looks much improved from that end so far. He's hit some 3's. He's attacking the rim. Making plays for others. He hasn't put it all together consistently yet but it's looking like he's going to be a pretty good 2 way player after all.

[qrich]

1] Paul
2] Conley
3] Lowry
4] Wall
5] Hill

[Nastradamus]

Rubio and Bledsoe are a tier above the rest

[bobopenguin]

He's as much of SG as Steph.
Bradley is the best PG defender bar none. In fact I'm calling him out as DPOY 2017

sure, better than D.green and K.Leonard, sure.

[DaHeezy]

sure, better than D.green and K.Leonard, sure.
He'll get more PT with Turner gone and Smart having to defend bigger positions. He's got a shot.