Did Hillary Clinton Violate OPSEC With Her Nuke Comments?

[Nick Young]

Did Hillary Clinton Violate OPSEC With Her Nuke Comments? (http://heavy.com/news/2016/10/did-hillary-clinton-violate-opsec-with-her-nuke-comments/)

[QUOTE]Clinton

[J Shuttlesworth]

YES! Finally, the thing that will put Hilary in prison :bowdown: :bowdown:

WE

STAY

#WINNING

[SpaceJam]

LMAO so careless, this is who some of y'all want running your country?!

[oarabbus]

The last time someone didn't agree to concede in good faith if they didn't win... was the Civil War

[NumberSix]

The last time someone didn't agree to concede in good faith if they didn't win... was the Civil War
Al Gore DIDN'T concede. He didn't just hypothetically talk about it, he refused the result and sued to get Florida overturned.

And before some idiot says "he didn't try to overturn Florida, he just want a recount" that's not what happened. In addiction to the automatic recount, this guy wanted multiple recounts and sued demanding recounts only in the areas he lost.

[Nick Young]

The last time someone didn't agree to concede in good faith if they didn't win... was the Civil War
The last time a presidential nominee challenged the results of an election was 16 years ago.

His name was Al Gore.

[oarabbus]

Al Gore DIDN'T concede. He didn't just hypothetically talk about it, he refused the result and sued to get Florida overturned.

And before some idiot says "he didn't try to overturn Florida, he just want a recount" that's not what happened. In addiction to the automatic recount, this guy wanted multiple recounts and sued demanding recounts only in the areas he lost.

Fair point. Did he not ultimately concede afterwards, and to this day has acknowledged his loss though? I suppose Trump may do the same, we don't know yet.

[NumberSix]

Fair point. Did he not ultimately concede afterwards, and to this day has acknowledged his loss though? I suppose Trump may do the same, we don't know yet.
Most Democrats still think that Al Gore won Florida.

[Nick Young]

A description of the chain of command for launching a nuke.

[QUOTE]

Presumably, by the time the POTUS got into that position, they gained the scruples not to launch a needless nuclear annihilation of another nation. That said, there's a chain of command that involves the Secretary of Defense who could refuse to relay the order (his codes

[FillJackson]

So the source of this opsec nonsense is an antisemtic alt-right idiot?

Check his timeline to see him "confirm" the debate moderator is a ****.

Nick Young, online shock troop for the anti-semitic right is not a good look.

[FillJackson]

There is an ex-nuclear launch officer on Twitter named John Noonan. He is not making these charges. Here's his only comment on nukes from last night.

John Noonan ‏@noonanjo 12h12 hours ago
I follow the nuclear issue very closely. Hillary's right. Trump said everything she claimed. There's just no other way to say it.

[FillJackson]

I believe Noonan signed this letter.


Former Nuke Launch Officers: 'Trump Should Not Have His Finger on The Button'
A group of former nuclear missile launch officers in a statement Thursday said Donald Trump doesn't have the leadership and decision-making skills to be commander-in-chief and "he should not have his finger on the button."

The letter, signed by 10 former nuclear launch officers, also called "missileers," said only the president can order a nuclear launch, and Trump is too dangerous to be entrusted with the responsibility.

"The pressures the system places on that one person are staggering and require enormous composure, judgment, restraint and diplomatic skill," the former launch officers said in the statement.

"Donald Trump does not have these leadership qualities. On the contrary, he has shown himself time and again to be easily baited and quick to lash out, dismissive of expert consultation and ill-informed of even basic military and international affairs — including, most especially, nuclear weapons."

[Nick Young]

So the source of this opsec nonsense is an antisemtic alt-right idiot?

Check his timeline to see him "confirm" the debate moderator is a ****.

Nick Young, online shock troop for the anti-semitic right is not a good look.
No. The source is actually Pentagon officials. Are they antisemitic for calling out KKKlinton's treason too?

[FillJackson]

One of the many publicly available discussions on the nuke launch process.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-nuclear-weapon-launch/

In fact, here's a video from the Titan Missile Museum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_Missile_Museum)showing the launch procedure. They give guided tours if your interested.

https://youtu.be/knDIENvBTgw?t=129

[Nick Young]

Hillary committed treason on live tv. Just because she was trying to show off how smart she is. There's a reason the pentagon and military are afraid of KKKlinton winning. She is extremely careless, and often confused.

And she committed treason.

[NumberSix]

Hilldawg's brain is unsecure. :roll:


Seriously though. This lady can't be trusted with any information.

[Annyong!]

It is pretty impossible for us to know if this is a violation, because we don't know what they were informed of in those meetings and what they are not allowed to disclose. We only know vaguely that they are provided secret info and that certain info cannot be released, but we don't know what that certain info is.

[Annyong!]

Hillary committed treason on live tv. Just because she was trying to show off how smart she is. There's a reason the pentagon and military are afraid of KKKlinton winning. She is extremely careless, and often confused.

And she committed treason.
That word does not mean what you think it means.

[Nick Young]

It is pretty impossible for us to know if this is a violation, because we don't know what they were informed of in those meetings and what they are not allowed to disclose. We only know vaguely that they are provided secret info and that certain info cannot be released, but we don't know what that certain info is.
You're right. Hillary either lied to the American people, or she accidentally committed treason. Wouldn't be the first time for either.

[FillJackson]

No. The source is actually Pentagon officials. Are they antisemitic for calling out KKKlinton's treason too?

The source you cited is from a single Alt-right moron.

He is anti-semitic because he hates Jews and likes to call people ****.

[Nick Young]

The source you cited is from a single Alt-right moron.

He is anti-semitic because he hates Jews and likes to call people ****.

LOL the CTR shill really does get his marching orders from the DNC. He's now trying to attack my Judaism, just like the DNC was plotting to do to Bernie.
Pentagon: Hillary Clinton Should Be Arrested For Leaking Top Secret Nuclear Intelligence on National TV (http://truepundit.com/pentagon-hillary-clinton-should-be-arrested-for-leaking-top-secret-nuclear-intelligence-on-national-tv/)



Hillary Clinton divulged Top Secret nuclear security intelligence to tens of millions of worldwide television audience viewers Wednesday night during the third presidential debate, according to high-ranking Department of Defense personnel.

Clinton, responding to opponent Donald Trump and a question posed by debate moderator Chris Wallace, boasted specific and “damaging” details about the United States’ nuclear response time to retaliate during a nuclear attack. Clinton said:

“But here’s the deal. The bottom line on nuclear weapons is that when the president gives the order, it must be followed. There’s about four minutes between the order being given and the people responsible for launching nuclear weapons to do so.” –Hillary Clinton, National TV Appearance

“Secretary Clinton proved tonight she is unfit to be commander-in-chief,” a top-ranking DOD intelligence source said. “What she did compromises our national security. She is cavalier and reckless and in my opinion should be detained and questioned so we can unravel why she did what she did.”

According to Pentagon sources, the information Clinton disseminated publicly is Top Secret intelligence governed under the U.S. Special Access Program (SAP) which dictates safeguards and protocols for accessing and discussing highly classified and Top Secret intelligence. The specific details of the country’s nuclear response time discussed by Clinton, sources said, are only known by a handful of individuals outside top military brass, including the following “need-to-know” (NTK) officials:

President
Vice President
Secretary of State
Secretary of Defense
Secretary of Homeland Security
Attorney General
Director of National Intelligence
CIA Director
Deputy Secretary of State
Deputy Secretary of Defense
Special personnel designated solely by the President in writing

Sources said late Wednesday Clinton likely violated two different types of Dept. of Defense SAP protocols. Since nuclear response is part of the sensitive national plan for nuclear war operations, all of its schematics are covered under both “Intelligence SAPs” and “Operation and Support SAPs,” sources said. Both contain Top Secret information.

“Targeting options by ICBM (intercontinental ballistic missiles), air or sea, launch order, launch procedures and response are some of the most secretly guarded tenets of national security and nuclear war policy,” a Pentagon source said. “It’s truly incredible that (nuclear) response time as part of an ERO (Emergency Response Option) is now out there in the public domain to our adversaries.”

U.S. Defense sources said according to developed U.S. counterintelligence, military officials in China, North Korea, Syria, Russia, Iran and even actors like ISIS had no previous definitive intelligence to determine the U.S. nuclear response time, especially during an ERO, prior to Clinton’s admission Wednesday night. Sources reluctantly acknowledged her calculations were accurate.

“Any time frame calculated would have merely been an educated hypothesis, absent leaked documents and there have been no such breaches,” the DOD source said.

Clinton has come under fire time and time again for mishandling national security secrets via email, telephone and secure facsimile during and after her tenure as secretary of state. Her mishandling of classified and top secret intelligence sparked a year-long investigation by the FBI and various Congressional committees which continue to examine Clinton’s lackluster security controls with and attitude toward protecting some of the nation’s most sensitive data which she stored on an unprotected home server in the basement of her Chappaqua, New York home during her post at Foggy Bottom.

Clinton, just this week, unleashed a series of campaign ads painting Trump as a loose cannon who should never be in control of nuclear secrets and weapons. Clinton trumpeted the seemingly ill-timed ads Wednesday night at the debate prior to her rant divulging nuclear secrets herself.

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[Annyong!]

You're right. Hillary either lied to the American people, or she accidentally committed treason. Wouldn't be the first time for either.
First, it wouldn't be treason. Again, you don't seem to know what that word means. Second, how do you know that disclosing the 4 seconds violates OPSEC?

[Nick Young]

First, it wouldn't be treason. Again, you don't seem to know what that word means. Second, how do you know that disclosing the 4 seconds violates OPSEC?
Just a bit of leaked classified information about our nuclear response time. No government document has every clarified or publicized our nuclear response time. Just a bit of treason.

No big deal.


Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

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[bladefd]

Between the president ordering nukes be used, you have 4 mins before launch. So yeah, I knew it was around 10 mins during cold war. Now it is 4 mins with advances in technology. Tell me where the issue lies.

[Nick Young]

Between the president ordering nukes be used, you have 4 mins before launch. So yeah, I knew it was around 10 mins during cold war. Now it is 4 mins with advances in technology. Tell me where the issue lies.
You didn't know shit, sport.:hammerhead:

You only know now because Hilldawg mentioned it at the debates. This information has never been published or confirmed by the US government.

[bladefd]

We have 4 minutes to decide today. Whee-pi-dee-do.

[FillJackson]

LOL the CTR shill really does get his marching orders from the DNC. He's now trying to attack my Judaism, just like the DNC was plotting to do to Bernie.
Pentagon: Hillary Clinton Should Be Arrested For Leaking Top Secret Nuclear Intelligence on National TV (http://truepundit.com/pentagon-hillary-clinton-should-be-arrested-for-leaking-top-secret-nuclear-intelligence-on-national-tv/)[/SIZE]

What in ever-loving **** are you talking about? Your first source attributed it this guy.

Paul Bunyan Retweeted David Duke ‏@DrDavidDuke 13h13 hours ago
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I have no idea why you Promote such people, but this has nothing to do your Judaism.

The word that is being censored rhymes with bike.

[FillJackson]

First, it wouldn't be treason. Again, you don't seem to know what that word means. Second, how do you know that disclosing the 4 seconds violates OPSEC?
For the record this does not compromise Operation Security and is not classified info.

Here's an actual nuclear expert weighing in, rather the the Anti-Semitic idiot Nick Young cited

[QUOTE]Joe Cirincione @Cirincione
No, @HillaryClinton did not reveal any secret about how quickly we can launch 🚀. This is widely known, often cited. http://www.unidir.org/files/publications/pdfs/reducing-alert-rates-of-nuclear-weapons-400.pdf

[Facepalm]

Hillary committed treason on live tv. Just because she was trying to show off how smart she is. There's a reason the pentagon and military are afraid of KKKlinton winning. She is extremely careless, and often confused.

And she committed treason.


:oldlol: Keep reaching Trumptards


http://www.snopes.com/clinton-four-minute-nuclear/


Loose Nukes
During a presidential debate Hillary Clinton mentioned a four-minute response window for launching missiles during a nuclear attack, but that information wasn't secret.



CLAIM: Hillary Clinton revealed a classified response window of "four minutes" for a U.S. president to launch nuclear weapons.


FALSE




Nick desperately still trying to campaign for Trump. Pro trip NY: ISH isn't going to swing the election.