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LAZERUSS

10-22-2016, 05:09 PM

Wilt Chamberlain

Also led his team, back from a 3-1 series deficit, as well, including three straight monster games on the backend... with a game seven of 30-27-6-11. And then a sweep in the next round, and without HCA. Then, he nearly led his under-dogs to a title with a 23-24 .625 seven game Finals, which included a must win game of 45-27 on 20-27 shooting. All only four months removed from major knee surgery.

As for the '68 "collapse"...you tell me...

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9328011&postcount=14

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9328006&postcount=13

Club Rated 'Most Courageous' By Hannum as Injuries Mount

PHILADELPHIA (AP) - The Philadelphia 76ers could be billed as the best touring troupe In basketball. All they need is a doctor to complete the cast.

Going into the fourth game Sunday of their National Basketball Association playoff series with the Boston Celtics, the 76ers are hurting from head to toe.

So what's new? Injuries have plagued the defending NBA champions since the opening of the season.

"Alex Hannum says this is the most courageous team he's ever coached," says Harvey Pollack, the 76ers' statistician. "The locker room looks like a hospital ward every time I walk in."

Pollack ticked off some of the cases, which read like a medical diary:

-Wilt Chamberlain (partial tear of the calf muscle in his right leg, a strain in his right thigh and an injured right toe):

-Wally Jones (injured knee cartilage):

-Luke Jackson (pulled hamstring muscle):

-Hal Greer (bursitus in his right knee):

-And, Billy Cunningham (broken right wrist).

"That's not mentioning (rookie) Jim Reid who had a knee operation after injuring it the first game of the season," said Pollack, "and Larry Costello," the veteran guard who tore an ankle tendon after one-third of the season was gone.

The most recent injury was to Chamberlain in Friday night's Eastern Division playoff contest with the Celtics. The dipper was given whirlpool treatments for the calf muscle tear, but Pollack wasn't sure how he'd respond.

The 76ers have nine men in uniform for the best-of-seven playoffs, which they lead, two games to one. But whether they'll have anybody left for the finals against the Western Division winner is anybody's guess.

The team's troubles multiplied in the Eastern Division semifinals against the New York Knickerbockers. Cunningham broke his wrist, knocking him out for the season, Jones and Jackson suffered their injuries and Chamberlain aggravated his perennial toe injury.

And when Boston thumped the 76ers in the opening game of their playoffs here last Friday, some predicted a quick knockout of the injury-riddled champs.

But Philadelphia whacked Boston two straight, including Thursday where an injury actually helped the 76ers cause, points out Pollack.

How so?

"Well, Chamberlain was hurt and he couldn't turn around to score-so he kept feeding Greer, and he scored 31," explained the statistician.

BTW, Chamberlain averaged a 22-25-7 in that seven game series.

SouBeachTalents

10-22-2016, 05:12 PM

Also led his team, back from a 3-1 series deficit, as well, including three straight monster games on the backend... with a game seven of 30-27-6-11. And then a sweep in the next round, and without HCA. Then, he nearly led his under-dogs to a title with a 23-24 .625 seven game Finals, which included a must win game of 45-27 on 20-27 shooting. All only four months removed from major knee surgery.

As for the '68 "collapse"...you tell me...

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9328011&postcount=14

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9328006&postcount=13

BTW, Chamberlain averaged a 22-25-7 in that seven game series.

He got outplayed by Russell in Games 6 & 7

aj1987

10-22-2016, 05:13 PM

Wilt Chamberlain
GOAT choker.

SouBeachTalents

10-22-2016, 05:13 PM

Lebron blew two 2-1 leads in the finals

He also led the first 3-1 comeback in Finals history

LAZERUSS

10-22-2016, 05:13 PM

He got outplayed by Russell in Games 6 & 7

Maybe, if you call outscoring, outrebounding, and outassisting Russell in those two games, and doing so with multiple injuries, as being outplayed.

LAZERUSS

10-22-2016, 05:18 PM

He also led the first 3-1 comeback in Finals history

Yep...down 3-1 and waving the white flag, and then crying to the league to suspend the Warriors best player for game five (the same Dray who was, BY FAR, the best player on the floor in game seven BTW)...and then having the "good fortune" to have the Warriors' rim-protector miss the last two games. Oh, and the biggest reason... Anfre Iguadala, the same Iggy who had completely shut down Lebron over the course of the last year, being rendered a helpless cripple in the last two games of the Finals.

Throw in KYRIE hitting the series' winning shot...and yep, it was "Lebron" who "led" that comeback (the same LeChoke who couldn't hit a shot in the last four minutes, and nearly puked at the line in the waning seconds.)

aj1987

10-22-2016, 05:25 PM

Yep...down 3-1 and waving the white flag, and then crying to the league to suspend the Warriors best player for game five (the same Dray who was, BY FAR, the best player on the floor in game seven BTW)...and then having the "good fortune" to have the Warriors' rim-protector miss the last two games. Oh, and the biggest reason... Anfre Iguadala, the same Iggy who had completely shut down Lebron over the course of the last year, being rendered a helpless cripple in the last two games of the Finals.

Throw in KYRIE hitting the series' winning shot...and yep, it was "Lebron" who "led" that comeback (the same LeChoke who couldn't hit a shot in the last four minutes, and nearly puked at the line in the waning seconds.)
Since you're clinically retarded and admittedly do not even watch the games:

Games 3-5, LeBron put up 33/13/7/2/3 on 53%. He shot 54%, 52%, and 53% during that stretch. Again, those are from games 3-5. Not even including G6, in which Iggy played 30 minutes and LeBron put up 41/16/7/3/3 on 61% TS or G7 in which Iggy played 40 minutes and LeBron put up 27/11/11/2/3.

If we include those games, LeBron averaged 33/12/9/2/3 on 52% after playing terribly in the first two games.

Game 7 - LeBron scored 11 of the Cavs' 18 points in the 4th Q. LeBron scored in one quarter nearly what Wilt averages for his CAREER in the Finals. After GSW went up 4, LeBron scored 6 straight points to keep the Cavs in the game. Scored 8 straight points at one point. Singlehandedly kept the Cavs in the game.

The four minute stretch? Neither team scored a SINGLE point until Kyrie made that incredible 3. LeBron also had the block and the game and title sealing FT in the end.

#2 Kyrie being more clutch than LeBron:

The Cavs were struggling and LeBron scored 11 points in the 4th Q. 8 straight points at one point and scored 6 straight after GSW were up 4 and with all the momentum. Dude absolutely killed their momentum and gave the Cavs a 2pt lead. He also has the game saving block on Iggy.

Irving in the 4th Q's of the Finals:

https://s22.postimg.org/wjpp7uq8x/Screen_Shot_2016_09_06_at_11_31_25_PM.png

LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals:

https://s10.postimg.io/ckzotdxft/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_53_42_AM.png

LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 3 games):

https://s10.postimg.io/pdnstb91l/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_53_56_AM.png

LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 2 games):

https://s10.postimg.io/wjfjvri4p/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_55_15_AM.png

Kyrie in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 2 games):

https://s10.postimg.io/m83733qfd/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_54_46_AM.png

Now go back to stanning the choking roided mental midget, Lozerus.

SouBeachTalents

10-22-2016, 05:29 PM

LAZERUSS

10-23-2016, 06:16 PM

Since you're clinically retarded and admittedly do not even watch the games:

Games 3-5, LeBron put up 33/13/7/2/3 on 53%. He shot 54%, 52%, and 53% during that stretch. Again, those are from games 3-5. Not even including G6, in which Iggy played 30 minutes and LeBron put up 41/16/7/3/3 on 61% TS or G7 in which Iggy played 40 minutes and LeBron put up 27/11/11/2/3.

If we include those games, LeBron averaged 33/12/9/2/3 on 52% after playing terribly in the first two games.

Game 7 - LeBron scored 11 of the Cavs' 18 points in the 4th Q. LeBron scored in one quarter nearly what Wilt averages for his CAREER in the Finals. After GSW went up 4, LeBron scored 6 straight points to keep the Cavs in the game. Scored 8 straight points at one point. Singlehandedly kept the Cavs in the game.

The four minute stretch? Neither team scored a SINGLE point until Kyrie made that incredible 3. LeBron also had the block and the game and title sealing FT in the end.

#2 Kyrie being more clutch than LeBron:

The Cavs were struggling and LeBron scored 11 points in the 4th Q. 8 straight points at one point and scored 6 straight after GSW were up 4 and with all the momentum. Dude absolutely killed their momentum and gave the Cavs a 2pt lead. He also has the game saving block on Iggy.

Irving in the 4th Q's of the Finals:

https://s22.postimg.org/wjpp7uq8x/Screen_Shot_2016_09_06_at_11_31_25_PM.png

LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals:

https://s10.postimg.io/ckzotdxft/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_53_42_AM.png

LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 3 games):

https://s10.postimg.io/pdnstb91l/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_53_56_AM.png

LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 2 games):

https://s10.postimg.io/wjfjvri4p/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_55_15_AM.png

Kyrie in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 2 games):

https://s10.postimg.io/m83733qfd/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_54_46_AM.png

Now go back to stanning the choking roided mental midget, Lozerus.

Again, Iguadala, the well-known Jester Dominator, was injured in game's six and seven.

So, let's examine your stats more fully shall we?

Game three of the '16 Finals:

LePuke shot an overall 14-26, with 1 trey. When Iggy was on him... 9-20 with zero three-pointers. I'll cover this "clutch" LeChoke more in a few, but in the 4th quarter of a blowout, Shrinkage went 0-1 against Iggy, and after Iggy exited, again in a blowout loss, the Padder went an unnecessary 4-5.

Game four of the '16 Finals:

LeTiny shot an overall 11-21. And looking at his 4th quarter stats, you would think he really stepped up in a relatively close game. Of course, the Jester fans like yourself don't even watch 4th quarters of his games, because, as you all know, he will puke all over the floor in the most critical moments. A career CHOKER. In any case, LePuke had shot an overall 8-18 against Iggy, and in the 4th quarter, he had gone his usual 2-6 shit-like performance. Down by 9, with less than a minute to go, and and with the Cavs desperately needing THREE's, the Warriors conceded the layup...and guess what, your boy LeCrap took them on three straight possessions. And essentially trading layups for Chokurry FTs...in a loss. He finished 11-21, but was actually 8-18 when until he was given three straight hoops. And again, 2-6 in the 4th until the Warriors laughingly handed him those hoops. The ultimate stats-padder!

Game five of the '16 Finals. If we remove those three "gifts" from game four, the Jester had gone a string of 12 straight games (including the '15 Finals and the two regular season H2H's in '16) of shooting less than 50% against Iggy. In game five he FINALLY broke thru....barely. He shot 16-30 overall. However, with the game still in doubt in the 4th quarter, LeClank shot his usual 2-7. His teammates of course carried the Cavs in that quarter, and Tiny was able to sneak off the court at about the five minute mark.

Game six of the '16 Finals. Iggy injured his back early on, and was a crippled shell the rest of the series. Shrinkage took full advantage, going 16-27, and then 6-9 from the floor in the 4th. Only his second 50%+ 4th quarter shooting performance in his 15 straight H2H's with Iggy since game one of the '15 Finals. And the first occurred in that game one of the '15 Finals. HOWEVER, in the OT in game one of the Finals, LeChoke went 1-4. So, if you include his pathetic OT effort, the Jester would only put up ONE 4th quarter, in 15 straight games, of at least 50% shooting.

Game seven of the '16 Finals. You put up this exaggeration about LeChoke putting up 11 straight points. Let's examine that, shall we? In that small span, the Jester shot 3-4 from the floor. From the last 4:14 of the game, LePuke went a trembling 0-4. So, in a span of about seven minutes, LeFoldo went 3-4, and the rest of the ENTIRE GAME...in his 40 other minutes... he shot 6-20! Including the usual 0-4 in the last four minutes of the game.

Continued...

LAZERUSS

10-23-2016, 06:17 PM

Continuing...

Keep in mind that Iguadala was still a shell in that game seven, as well. Furthermore, the two teams combined to shoot .396 in that game seven...Shrinkage? .375. The two teams combined to shoot an eFG% of .458. LeChoke? .396. The two teams combined to shoot a TS% of .501. LeFlop? .475.

So, in his 4th quarters, LeFlop shot an overall 22-44 (.500). Include his treys, and it was .534. BUT, when Iggy was on the floor in those 4th quarters, it dropped to 18-39, or a .462 FG%. And then, remove those three "gift" layups at the end of game four, and he shot 15-36 against Iggy...or .417. Include his treys against Iggy, and his eFG% was still only .444. Finally, remove LeShit's game six 4th quarter, when Iggy was a cripple...and he would have shot 9-27 against Iggy (including his usual game seven blanks)...or a .333 FG%, and a .370 eFG%!

Iggy...the Jester Stopper.

Oh, the Cavs and Warriors played twice in the 15-16 regular season, as well.

Game 1: A bad 10-26 for LeClank. With Iggy on him... 7-22 (with 0 treys.)
4th quarter? His usual... 2-8.

Game 2: A 132-98 blowout loss that wasn't as close as the final score indicated. Shrinkage went a no-impact 7-16 and a DNP in the 4th.

Let's recap the Jester's '15 Finals, as well. By now everyone knows that he put up one of the all-time WORST shooting performances in NBA Finals history. Not only did he shoot a horrific .398, he did so on an unfathomable 32 FGAs per game. All while the Warriors SINGLED him. And as pathetic as that .398 FG% was, when he was defended by The Jester Stopper... Iguadala...he shot .351! No wonder Iggy, a role player coming off the bench, easily won the FMVP.

I won't break down LePuke's numbers against Iggy in that series. Everyone knows it was a DRAMATIC difference. But, instead I will just post LeClanks game numbers...before getting to his 4th quarters.

Game one: 18-38
Game two: 11-35 :roll: :roll: :roll:
Game three: 14-34
Game four: 7-22 (BTW, this was essentially the series.)
Game five: 15-34
Game six: 13-33 :roll: (what a clinching performance)

Ok, we can all see that a blind man would have shot as well.

BUT, how about the "clutch" LeChoke. You know...the 4th quarter LeFoldo.

Game 1: Actually shot pretty well. 5-9. Unfortunately for the LeBrick...the game went into OT. Where he shot 0-4 with a couple of critical turnovers. For the entire 4th quarter and OT... 5-13.

Game 2: This is a "peak" LeChoke at his "clutch" best. Went 2-8 in the 4th quarter, but somehow his teammates kept the Cavs into the game, and it went into OT. Where Shrinkage then went his usual 0-4. A combined 2-12 from the 4th quarter thru OT...in a WIN!

Game 3: Somehow LeCrap's teammates were able to win this game despite LeCoward's 4th quarter shooting of 2-7.

Game 4: The Jester with another LeChoke's "peak" performance. In the biggest game of the entire series, Shrinkage went a wimpy 7-22. And he didn't even try in the 4th quarter, going a feeble 0-2.

Game 5: Probably LePuke's best game of any in which he faced a healthy Iggy. Shot 6-13 in the 4th, on with 3 treys. But all in a 13 point loss.

Game 6: The clincher. 13-33 overall, and 5-12 in the futile 4th.

For the '15 Finals, LePuke shot an overall 21-59 in his 4th quarters and OT's, for a .356 FG%. Even with his treys, his overall eFG% was only .415. All accomplished by being SINGLED.

THAT was the "clutch" Court Jester. The man known as Shrinkage lived up (or down) to his name.

SouBeachTalents

10-23-2016, 06:23 PM

Again, Iguadala, the well-known Jester Dominator, was injured in game's six and seven.

So, let's examine your stats more fully shall we?

Game three of the '16 Finals:

LePuke shot an overall 14-26, with 1 trey. When Iggy was on him... 9-20 with zero three-pointers. I'll cover this "clutch" LeChoke more in a few, but in the 4th quarter of a blowout, Shrinkage went 0-1 against Iggy, and after Iggy exited, again in a blowout loss, the Padder went an unnecessary 4-5.

Game four of the '16 Finals:

LeTiny shot an overall 11-21. And looking at his 4th quarter stats, you would think he really stepped up in a relatively close game. Of course, the Jester fans like yourself don't even watch 4th quarters of his games, because, as you all know, he will puke all over the floor in the most critical moments. A career CHOKER. In any case, LePuke had shot an overall 8-18 against Iggy, and in the 4th quarter, he had gone his usual 2-6 shit-like performance. Down by 9, with less than a minute to go, and and with the Cavs desperately needing THREE's, the Warriors conceded the layup...and guess what, your boy LeCrap took them on three straight possessions. And essentially trading layups for Chokurry FTs...in a loss. He finished 11-21, but was actually 8-18 when until he was given three straight hoops. And again, 2-6 in the 4th until the Warriors laughingly handed him those hoops. The ultimate stats-padder!

Game five of the '16 Finals. If we remove those three "gifts" from game four, the Jester had gone a string of 12 straight games (including the '15 Finals and the two regular season H2H's in '16) of shooting less than 50% against Iggy. In game five he FINALLY broke thru....barely. He shot 16-30 overall. However, with the game still in doubt in the 4th quarter, LeClank shot his usual 2-7. His teammates of course carried the Cavs in that quarter, and Tiny was able to sneak off the court at about the five minute mark.

Game six of the '16 Finals. Iggy injured his back early on, and was a crippled shell the rest of the series. Shrinkage took full advantage, going 16-27, and then 6-9 from the floor in the 4th. Only his second 50%+ 4th quarter shooting performance in his 15 straight H2H's with Iggy since game one of the '15 Finals. And the first occurred in that game one of the '15 Finals. HOWEVER, in the OT in game one of the Finals, LeChoke went 1-4. So, if you include his pathetic OT effort, the Jester would only put up ONE 4th quarter, in 15 straight games, of at least 50% shooting.

Game seven of the '16 Finals. You put up this exaggeration about LeChoke putting up 11 straight points. Let's examine that, shall we? In that small span, the Jester shot 3-4 from the floor. From the last 4:14 of the game, LePuke went a trembling 0-4. So, in a span of about seven minutes, LeFoldo went 3-4, and the rest of the ENTIRE GAME...in his 40 other minutes... he shot 6-20! Including the usual 0-4 in the last four minutes of the game.

Keep in mind that Iguadala was still a shell in that game seven, as well. Furthermore, the two teams combined to shoot .396 in that game seven...Shrinkage? .375. The two teams combined to shoot an eFG% of .458. LeChoke? .396. The two teams combined to shoot a TS% of .501. LeFlop? .475.

So, in his 4th quarters, LeFlop shot an overall 22-44 (.500). Include his treys, and it was .534. BUT, when Iggy was on the floor in those 4th quarters, it dropped to 18-39, or a .462 FG%. And then, remove those three "gift" layups at the end of game four, and he shot 15-36 against Iggy...or .417. Include his treys against Iggy, and his eFG% was still only .444.

Oh, the Cavs and Warriors played twice in the 15-16 regular season, as well.

Game 1: A bad 10-26 for LeClank. With Iggy on him... 7-22 (with 0 treys.)
4th quarter? His usual... 2-8.

Game 2: A 132-98 blowout loss that wasn't as close as the final score indicated. Shrinkage went a no-impact 7-16 and a DNP in the 4th.

Let's recap the Jester's '15 Finals, as well. By now everyone knows that he put up one of the all-time WORST shooting performances in NBA Finals history. Not only did he shoot a horrific .398, he did so on an unfathomable 32 FGAs per game. All while the Warriors SINGLED him. And as pathetic as that .398 FG% was, when he was defended by The Jester Stopper... Iguadala...he shot .351! No wonder Iggy, a role player coming off the bench, easily won the FMVP.

I won't break down LePuke's numbers against Iggy in that series. Everyone knows it was a DRAMATIC difference. But, instead I will just post LeClanks game numbers...before getting to his 4th quarters.

Game one: 18-38
Game two: 11-35 :roll: :roll: :roll:
Game three: 14-34
Game four: 7-22 (BTW, this was essentially the series.)
Game five: 15-34
Game six: 13-33 :roll: (what a clinching performance)

Ok, we can all see that a blind man would have shot as well.

BUT, how about the "clutch" LeChoke. You know...the 4th quarter LeFoldo.

Game 1: Actually shot pretty well. 5-9. Unfortunately for the LeBrick...the game went into OT. Where he shot 0-4 with a couple of critical turnovers. For the entire 4th quarter and OT... 5-13.

Game 2: This is a "peak" LeChoke at his "clutch" best. Went 2-8 in the 4th quarter, but somehow his teammates kept the Cavs into the game, and it went into OT. Where Shrinkage then went his usual 0-4. A combined 2-12 from the 4th quarter thru OT...in a WIN!

Game 3: Somehow LeCrap's teammates were able to win this game despite LeCoward's 4th quarter shooting of 2-7.

Game 4: The Jester with another LeChoke's "peak" performance. In the biggest game of the entire series, Shrinkage went a wimpy 7-22. And he didn't even try in the 4th quarter, going a feeble 0-2.

Game 5: Probably LePuke's best game of any in which he faced a healthy Iggy. Shot 6-13 in the 4th, on with 3 treys. But all in a 13 point loss.

Game 6: The clincher. 13-33 overall, and 5-12 in the futile 4th.

For the '15 Finals, LePuke shot an overall 21-59 in his 4th quarters and OT's, for a .356 FG%. Even with his treys, his overall eFG% was only .415. All accomplished by being SINGLED.

THAT was the "clutch" Court Jester. The man known as Shrinkage lived up (or down) to his name.

You're one of the last posters I expected to meltdown from LeBron's championship

Inferno

10-23-2016, 06:29 PM

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2414208.1446033489!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/warriors29s-1-web.jpg

Look at the regular season Warrior. :rolleyes:

aj1987

10-23-2016, 06:56 PM

Again, Iguadala, the well-known Jester Dominator, was injured in game's six and seven.
Yeah, he dominated LeBron, yet LeBron put up 36/13/9 on 40% in '15 and 30/11/9/3/2 on 49%. Better than any of the mental midgets Finals. Bad comparison though, considering the mental midget was pretty much carried in most of the Finals he played in. The choker couldn't win with West averaging 39/5/8. :oldlol:

LePuke shot an overall 14-26, with 1 trey. When Iggy was on him... 9-20 with zero three-pointers. I'll cover this "clutch" LeChoke more in a few, but in the 4th quarter of a blowout, Shrinkage went 0-1 against Iggy, and after Iggy exited, again in a blowout loss, the Padder went an unnecessary 4-5.
Dude, you stan THE GOAT statpadder and you're complain about others "padding" their stats? You don't even watch the games, you retarded shit. Come back when you actually sit down and watch a game.

Game four of the '16 Finals:

LeTiny shot an overall 11-21. And looking at his 4th quarter stats, you would think he really stepped up in a relatively close game. Of course, the Jester fans like yourself don't even watch 4th quarters of his games, because, as you all know, he will puke all over the floor in the most critical moments. A career CHOKER. In any case, LePuke had shot an overall 8-18 against Iggy, and in the 4th quarter, he had gone his usual 2-6 shit-like performance. Down by 9, with less than a minute to go, and and with the Cavs desperately needing THREE's, the Warriors conceded the layup...and guess what, your boy LeCrap took them on three straight possessions. And essentially trading layups for Chokurry FTs...in a loss. He finished 11-21, but was actually 8-18 when until he was given three straight hoops. And again, 2-6 in the 4th until the Warriors laughingly handed him those hoops. The ultimate stats-padder!
What was he supposed to do? Give up like your roided lover and shit the bed with a like 10 points in Finals games? No wonder you stan a choker who averaged 18 in the Finals.

BTW, since you obviously didn't watch that game, Irving, who is an ELITE 3pt shooter took a couple of 2's as well. Didn't take the 3.

Game five of the '16 Finals. If we remove those three "gifts" from game four, the Jester had gone a string of 12 straight games (including the '15 Finals and the two regular season H2H's in '16) of shooting less than 50% against Iggy. In game five he FINALLY broke thru....barely. He shot 16-30 overall. However, with the game still in doubt in the 4th quarter, LeClank shot his usual 2-7. His teammates of course carried the Cavs in that quarter, and Tiny was able to sneak off the court at about the five minute mark.
The closest the Warriors came was within 7 points early in the Q and Kyrie Irving scored a couple of points and put them away.

Once again, you've just exposed yourself, you retarded shit. Iman was the ONLY other Cavalier (other than LeBron/Irving) to score in the 4th in G5. I know that you like to make shit up, but who were these other "teammates" who carried the Cavs in the 4th? Iman scored 2 points, FYI.

LeBron had 5 points, Irving had 12, and Iman had 2 points for the Cavs in the 4th. LeBron had 41/16/7/3/3 on 61% TS and props to Irving dude had a ridiculous game and one better than ANY Finals game your lover, the mental midget, had. Significantly better, as a matter of fact.

Game six of the '16 Finals. Iggy injured his back early on, and was a crippled shell the rest of the series. Shrinkage took full advantage, going 16-27, and then 6-9 from the floor in the 4th. Only his second 50%+ 4th quarter shooting performance in his 15 straight H2H's with Iggy since game one of the '15 Finals. And the first occurred in that game one of the '15 Finals. HOWEVER, in the OT in game one of the Finals, LeChoke went 1-4. So, if you include his pathetic OT effort, the Jester would only put up ONE 4th quarter, in 15 straight games, of at least 50% shooting.
What's your point? LeBron had a fantastic game and blew out the Warriors.

Game seven of the '16 Finals. You put up this exaggeration about LeChoke putting up 11 straight points. Let's examine that, shall we? In that small span, the Jester shot 3-4 from the floor. From the last 4:14 of the game, LePuke went a trembling 0-4. So, in a span of about seven minutes, LeFoldo went 3-4, and the rest of the ENTIRE GAME...in his 40 other minutes... he shot 6-20! Including the usual 0-4 in the last four minutes of the game.
Since your retarded midget choker loving ass can't read/comprehend:

Game 7 - LeBron scored 11 of the Cavs' 18 points in the 4th Q. LeBron scored in one quarter nearly what Wilt averages for his CAREER in the Finals. After GSW went up 4, LeBron scored 6 straight points to keep the Cavs in the game. Scored 8 straight points at one point. Singlehandedly kept the Cavs in the game.

The four minute stretch? Neither team scored a SINGLE point until Kyrie made that incredible 3. LeBron also had the block and the game and title sealing FT in the end.

aj1987

10-23-2016, 07:01 PM

Keep in mind that Iguadala was still a shell in that game seven, as well. Furthermore, the two teams combined to shoot .396 in that game seven...Shrinkage? .375. The two teams combined to shoot an eFG% of .458. LeChoke? .396. The two teams combined to shoot a TS% of .501. LeFlop? .475.
And yet, he was the best player in the game and was THE reason the Cavs won. Without his scoring and defense in the 4th, the Warriors would've blown them the **** out. You just can't get all that from boxscores though. You need to watch the games.

Irving in the 4th Q's of the Finals:

https://s22.postimg.org/wjpp7uq8x/Screen_Shot_2016_09_06_at_11_31_25_PM.png

LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals:

https://s10.postimg.io/ckzotdxft/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_53_42_AM.png

LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 3 games):

https://s10.postimg.io/pdnstb91l/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_53_56_AM.png

LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 2 games):

https://s10.postimg.io/wjfjvri4p/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_55_15_AM.png

Kyrie in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 2 games):

https://s10.postimg.io/m83733qfd/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_54_46_AM.png

However, we do know for a FACT that your lover was a miserable choker and thanks to SouBeachTalents for pointing that out.

1968 East Finals Games 6 & 7: 14-38 FT's
1969 Finals Game 7: 4-13 FT's
1970 Finals Game 7: 1-11 FT's

So, in his 4th quarters, LeFlop shot an overall 22-44 (.500). Include his treys, and it was .534. BUT, when Iggy was on the floor in those 4th quarters, it dropped to 18-39, or a .462 FG%. And then, remove those three "gift" layups at the end of game four, and he shot 15-36 against Iggy...or .417. Include his treys against Iggy, and his eFG% was still only .444.
Good lord, the cherrypicking... :roll:

Yeah, just remove FG's that LeBron made. Why don't you get rid of a couple of other random ones and get it down to below 40%? ****ing retard.

Let's recap the Jester's '15 Finals, as well. By now everyone knows that he put up one of the all-time WORST shooting performances in NBA Finals history. Not only did he shoot a horrific .398, he did so on an unfathomable 32 FGAs per game. All while the Warriors SINGLED him. And as pathetic as that .398 FG% was, when he was defended by The Jester Stopper... Iguadala...he shot .351! No wonder Iggy, a role player coming off the bench, easily won the FMVP.

I won't break down LePuke's numbers against Iggy in that series. Everyone knows it was a DRAMATIC difference. But, instead I will just post LeClanks game numbers...before getting to his 4th quarters.

Game one: 18-38
Game two: 11-35
Game three: 14-34
Game four: 7-22 (BTW, this was essentially the series.)
Game five: 15-34
Game six: 13-33 (what a clinching performance)

Ok, we can all see that a blind man would have shot as well.

BUT, how about the "clutch" LeChoke. You know...the 4th quarter LeFoldo.

Game 1: Actually shot pretty well. 5-9. Unfortunately for the LeBrick...the game went into OT. Where he shot 0-4 with a couple of critical turnovers. For the entire 4th quarter and OT... 5-13.

Game 2: This is a "peak" LeChoke at his "clutch" best. Went 2-8 in the 4th quarter, but somehow his teammates kept the Cavs into the game, and it went into OT. Where Shrinkage then went his usual 0-4. A combined 2-12 from the 4th quarter thru OT...in a WIN!

Game 3: Somehow LeCrap's teammates were able to win this game despite LeCoward's 4th quarter shooting of 2-7.

Game 4: The Jester with another LeChoke's "peak" performance. In the biggest game of the entire series, Shrinkage went a wimpy 7-22. And he didn't even try in the 4th quarter, going a feeble 0-2.

Game 5: Probably LePuke's best game of any in which he faced a healthy Iggy. Shot 6-13 in the 4th, on with 3 treys. But all in a 13 point loss.

Game 6: The clincher. 13-33 overall, and 5-12 in the futile 4th.

For the '15 Finals, LePuke shot an overall 21-59 in his 4th quarters and OT's, for a .356 FG%. Even with his treys, his overall eFG% was only .415. All accomplished by being SINGLED.

THAT was the "clutch" Court Jester. The man known as Shrinkage lived up (or down) to his name.
LeBron was purposefully slowing down the pace. You don't win against the Warriors (with a garbage ass team no less) playing run and gun ball. They're gonna out shoot you and destroy you. The Cavs would've lost in 4 straight blowouts if they played uptempo basketball.

He couldn't hand over the playmaking duties to others nor was he able to let others make decisions, because they're low IQ players. Shump and JR were terrible and can't create for others. Delly had a hard time bringing the ball up court. Actually, Shump is a below average playmaker, but the other two are worse than garbage.

The game in which Mozgov put up 28 points, the Cavs lost by 21 points. LeBron struggled shooting the ball, but he did have 20/12/8. 12 rebounds and 8 assists (oh wait, rebounds and assists only matter when it's Bird). Delly went 3-14, JR 2-12, Shump 2-9, JJ 0-3, etc.. A combined 18% FG%. Literally no one could hit a shot. To top it off, the Warriors went small and Moz couldn't guard anyone on the court. Bogut was benched and Green was playing at the C.

You're blaming LeBron for Moz not getting more involved in game 5 after the 28 point game, when in fact, the COACH played him 9 minutes. He played over 30 minutes in game 6 and LeBron got him involved. Dude put up 17/12/4.

For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.

.511 FT% shooter in the regular season
.465 in the playoffs
.375 in the finals

Chamberlains ppg in regular season: 30.1
Chamberlains ppg in playoffs: 22.5
Chamberlain's ppg in the Finals: 18

Default NBA choking rating

Advanced Formula: Losses with HCA + playoff ppg drop + finals ppg drop + playoff rpg drop + finals rpg drop + playoff apg drop + finals apg drop + playoff fg% drop + finals fg% drop + playoff ft% drop + finals ft% drop - rings

Wilt Chamberlain: 5 + (30.1-22.5) + (30.1-18.6) + (22.9-24.9) + (22.9-24.6) + (4.4-4.2) + (4.4-3.8) + (54.0-52.2) + (54.0-55.9) + (51.1-46.5) + (51.1-37.5) - 2 = 37.3

Ilt's scoring drop off from the RS to the PO's:

'60 - -4.4
'61 - -1.4
'62 - -15.4
'63 - Missed the PO's despite averaging 44.8/24.3/3.4 on 52.8%
'64 - -2.2
'65 - -5.4
'66 - -5.5
'67 - -2.4
'68 - -0.6
'69 - -6.6
'70 - -5.2 (Injured his knee, so not really gonna count this year)
'71 - -2.4
'72 - -0.1
'73 - -2.8

Those numbers would translate to ~15 PPG in the '90's, BTW. Playing in a weak ass era definitely helped boost his stats.

Ilt's FG% from the RS to the PO's:

1960 - +3.5
1961 - -4.0
1962 - -3.9
1964 - +1.8
1965 - +2.0
1966 - -3.1
1967 - -10.4
1968 - -6.1
1979 - -3.8
1970 - -1.9
1971 - -9.0
1972 - -8.6
1973 - -17.5

aj1987

10-23-2016, 07:05 PM

You're one of the last posters I expected to meltdown from LeBron's championship
Dude has been crying non-stop since LeBron won and especially after ESPN ranked him #3, ahead of his mental midget idol.

Went from being a LeBron stan to an utter moron.

K Xerxes

10-23-2016, 07:28 PM

Dude has been crying non-stop since LeBron won and especially after ESPN ranked him #3, ahead of his mental midget idol.

Went from being a LeBron stan to an utter moron.

So he went from being an utter moron to an utter moron

aj1987

10-23-2016, 07:32 PM

So he went from being an utter moron to an utter moron
:roll:

Well done.

LAZERUSS

10-23-2016, 07:39 PM

Yeah, he dominated LeBron, yet LeBron put up 36/13/9 on 40% in '15 and 30/11/9/3/2 on 49%. Better than any of the mental midgets Finals. Bad comparison though, considering the mental midget was pretty much carried in most of the Finals he played in. The choker couldn't win with West averaging 39/5/8.

Don't take my word for it then...how about this...

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/06/lebron-james-had-the-worst-awesome-performance-in-nba-finals-history

[QUOTE]Andre Iguodala was the rightful recipient of the Finals MVP and certainly deserved to win it by more than the 7-4 margin he had over LeBron. Why? Despite LeBron

LAZERUSS

10-23-2016, 07:57 PM

And yet, he was the best player in the game and was THE reason the Cavs won. Without his scoring and defense in the 4th, the Warriors would've blown them the **** out. You just can't get all that from boxscores though. You need to watch the games.

LePUKE was NOWHERE NEAR the best player on the floor in game seven. Dray, you know the Dray that Shrinkage CRIED to the league to suspend for tapping his vxxxxa, put up the highest scoring, highest rebounding, highest FG%, and highest TS%...all by huge margins...in that game seven.

Good lord, the cherrypicking...

Yeah, just remove FG's that LeBron made. Why don't you get rid of a couple of other random ones and get it down to below 40%? ****ing retard.

CHERRY-PICKING????

Cherry-picking would be looking at LeShit's 22-44 in the 4th quarters of the '16 Finals.

Using CONTEXT, and he actually shot...get this... 9-27 against a HEALTHY Iguadala in those 4th quarters.

Going 4-5 from the field long after game five was decided, and AFTER Iggy had exited...is CHERRY-PICKING. Or adding in his THREE straight GIFTS at the end of game four, when he decided to PAD his stats instead of trying to WIN the game. THAT is CHERRY-PICKING. Including his 6-9 from the floor in a game six in which Iggy was barely able to walk...is CHERRY-PICKING.

The REALITY... take away his game six against a crippled Iggy...and in his 14 other H2H games against him, and when he was on the floor...not ONE of even 50%. Most WAY below...as low as .000!

LeBron was purposefully slowing down the pace. You don't win against the Warriors (with a garbage ass team no less) playing run and gun ball. They're gonna out shoot you and destroy you. The Cavs would've lost in 4 straight blowouts if they played uptempo basketball.

He couldn't hand over the playmaking duties to others nor was he able to let others make decisions, because they're low IQ players. Shump and JR were terrible and can't create for others. Delly had a hard time bringing the ball up court. Actually, Shump is a below average playmaker, but the other two are worse than garbage.

The game in which Mozgov put up 28 points, the Cavs lost by 21 points. LeBron struggled shooting the ball, but he did have 20/12/8. 12 rebounds and 8 assists (oh wait, rebounds and assists only matter when it's Bird). Delly went 3-14, JR 2-12, Shump 2-9, JJ 0-3, etc.. A combined 18% FG%. Literally no one could hit a shot. To top it off, the Warriors went small and Moz couldn't guard anyone on the court. Bogut was benched and Green was playing at the C.

You're blaming LeBron for Moz not getting more involved in game 5 after the 28 point game, when in fact, the COACH played him 9 minutes. He played over 30 minutes in game 6 and LeBron got him involved. Dude put up 17/12/4.

For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.

All of the above NONSENSE would be excusable IF the Warriors were swarming LeCHOKE. Unlike Chamberlain, who played with shit rosters that played worse in their post-seasons...at least Wilt was being DOUBLED, TRIPLED, and SWARMED...and was STILL putting up 30 ppg series on 50%+ shooting, and in post-seasons that were shooting .425 in the same span against the DYNASTY.

Of course, when Chamberlain FINALLY had a roster that was the EQUAL of Russell's, and healthy...a 4-1 series blowout in which they were a mere four points away, in game four, from a sweep of the eight-time, and 60-21 Celtics, in a series in which Wilt just ANNIHILATED Russell.

aj1987

10-23-2016, 08:06 PM

Don't take my word for it then...how about this...

LeCHOKE LOST that series. Plain-and-simple, and there were no excuses for his shitty play.
RTFP, retard.

LeBron was purposefully slowing down the pace. You don't win against the Warriors (with a garbage ass team no less) playing run and gun ball. They're gonna out shoot you and destroy you. The Cavs would've lost in 4 straight blowouts if they played uptempo basketball.

He couldn't hand over the playmaking duties to others nor was he able to let others make decisions, because they're low IQ players. Shump and JR were terrible and can't create for others. Delly had a hard time bringing the ball up court. Actually, Shump is a below average playmaker, but the other two are worse than garbage.

The game in which Mozgov put up 28 points, the Cavs lost by 21 points. LeBron struggled shooting the ball, but he did have 20/12/8. 12 rebounds and 8 assists (oh wait, rebounds and assists only matter when it's Bird). Delly went 3-14, JR 2-12, Shump 2-9, JJ 0-3, etc.. A combined 18% FG%. Literally no one could hit a shot. To top it off, the Warriors went small and Moz couldn't guard anyone on the court. Bogut was benched and Green was playing at the C.

You're blaming LeBron for Moz not getting more involved in game 5 after the 28 point game, when in fact, the COACH played him 9 minutes. He played over 30 minutes in game 6 and LeBron got him involved. Dude put up 17/12/4.

For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.

LePadder is THE career STATS-PADDER. Take one look at his '14 Finals, and you would think he had been great. Someone who didn't watch the series, like yourself, would say, ...look 28-8-4 on a .680 TS%. Yep, those who WATCHED the games would conclude...STATS-PADDING at it's PEAK. LePadder didn't do ANYTHING until the games were ROUTS. The ONLY think the Jester did was "lead" his team to the worst beatdown in Finals history.
Funny, cause you're the retard who admitted to not watching any games. You're kinda like 3ball, TBH. Both of you are retarded, you do not watch basketball, and you retards are spambots. At least 3ball stans the GOAT. You stan and choking roided mental midget, who couldn't win unless he was carried.

What was he SUPPOSED to do?

He was SUPPOSED to shoot THREE's you idiot.
You do know that he was 1-5 from deep that game, right? Of course you don't.

And the REAL FINALS in the decade of the 60's were the Celtics vs WILT. You know, the Chamberlain who was putting up series of 22-25-7; 22-32-10; 28-30; 29-28; 30-31; 31-27; and 34-26 against Russell's Celtics?

I'll cover the WILT post-seasons later. But, as was proven in the '72 WCF's, Wilt did FAR more in that series, and against a PEAK Kareem...in a series in which Chamberlain averaged 11 ppg...than LeWhiff did in his brick-laying '15 Finals.

Had Wilt had the good fortune to have played in the West in his prime, like the Jester has had playing in the POS East his entire career, and his post-season scoring and efficiency records would likely would be records.
The real Finals were the FINALS, retard. It's in the freaking name. Fact remains that Chokerlain Choked in pretty much EVERY Final game he played in.

1968 East Finals Games 6 & 7: 14-38 FT's
1969 Finals Game 7: 4-13 FT's
1970 Finals Game 7: 1-11 FT's

.511 FT% shooter in the regular season
.465 in the playoffs
.375 in the finals

Chamberlains ppg in regular season: 30.1
Chamberlains ppg in playoffs: 22.5
Chamberlain's ppg in the Finals: 18

Default NBA choking rating

Advanced Formula: Losses with HCA + playoff ppg drop + finals ppg drop + playoff rpg drop + finals rpg drop + playoff apg drop + finals apg drop + playoff fg% drop + finals fg% drop + playoff ft% drop + finals ft% drop - rings

Wilt Chamberlain: 5 + (30.1-22.5) + (30.1-18.6) + (22.9-24.9) + (22.9-24.6) + (4.4-4.2) + (4.4-3.8) + (54.0-52.2) + (54.0-55.9) + (51.1-46.5) + (51.1-37.5) - 2 = 37.3

Ilt's scoring drop off from the RS to the PO's:

'60 - -4.4
'61 - -1.4
'62 - -15.4
'63 - Missed the PO's despite averaging 44.8/24.3/3.4 on 52.8%
'64 - -2.2
'65 - -5.4
'66 - -5.5
'67 - -2.4
'68 - -0.6
'69 - -6.6
'70 - -5.2 (Injured his knee, so not really gonna count this year)
'71 - -2.4
'72 - -0.1
'73 - -2.8

Those numbers would translate to ~15 PPG in the '90's, BTW. Playing in a weak ass era definitely helped boost his stats.

Ilt's FG% from the RS to the PO's:

1960 - +3.5
1961 - -4.0
1962 - -3.9
1964 - +1.8
1965 - +2.0
1966 - -3.1
1967 - -10.4
1968 - -6.1
1979 - -3.8
1970 - -1.9
1971 - -9.0
1972 - -8.6
1973 - -17.5

Trying to deflect the Jester's 2-7 I see. A typical 4th quarter effort in a close game by LeCHOKE.
What did I deflect? LeBron and Irving had better Finals games than your choking lover ever did. Fact.

My POINT??? Obviously you can't comprehend what I posted, but we all saw what LeFLOP did against a HEALTHY Iguadala in his 15 straight games covering the '15 Finals, their two regular season H2H's in '16, and their '16 Finals H2H's. ZILCH. ESPECIALLY in the 4th quarters of close games. LeCHOKE being LeCHOKE!
33/12/9/2/2 on 44% in the '15 and '16 Finals combined.

Iggy's injury was THE biggest reason why the Cavs won the last two games of the Finals.
Yeah, because LeBron didn't murder Iggy in games 3 and 5. FOH, midget. Right now you're just straight up melting. Since we're talking about injuries, Irving and Love were out in '15 and LeBron damn near won. Love was injured this season as well and Irving was dealing with foot injuries. They still won. We aren't talking about bench players, BTW. We're talking about the Cavs' 2nd and 3rd best players.

LeSHIT shot 9-24 in the game. And, of course, 0-4 when it REALLY mattered. But yes, in a span of SEVEN of his 47 minutes, he put up an 11 point run on 3-4 shooting. But yes, let's conveniently ignore his 6-20 blanks the other 40 minutes he played.
Game 7 - LeBron scored 11 of the Cavs' 18 points in the 4th Q. LeBron scored in one quarter nearly what Wilt averages for his CAREER in the Finals. After GSW went up 4, LeBron scored 6 straight points to keep the Cavs in the game. Scored 8 straight points at one point. Singlehandedly kept the Cavs in the game.

The four minute stretch? Neither team scored a SINGLE point until Kyrie made that incredible 3. LeBron also had the block and the game and title sealing FT in the end.

My roided lover was the GOAT statpadder and shit the bed as the stage got bigger. Was a mental midget and the GOAT choker!
Agreed, old fart.

1968 East Finals Games 6 & 7: 14-38 FT's
1969 Finals Game 7: 4-13 FT's
1970 Finals Game 7: 1-11 FT's

.511 FT% shooter in the regular season
.465 in the playoffs
.375 in the finals

Chamberlains ppg in regular season: 30.1
Chamberlains ppg in playoffs: 22.5
Chamberlain's ppg in the Finals: 18

aj1987

10-23-2016, 08:08 PM

LePUKE was NOWHERE NEAR the best player on the floor in game seven. Dray, you know the Dray that Shrinkage CRIED to the league to suspend for tapping his vxxxxa, put up the highest scoring, highest rebounding, highest FG%, and highest TS%...all by huge margins...in that game seven.
And yet, LeBron was more crucial to a teams win. For the millionth time, you would know that if you actually saw the game.

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Keep crying, you little slut. :roll:

LAZERUSS

10-23-2016, 08:13 PM

Regarding these LeCHOKE vs Chamberlain debates...

A tale of four series...

The Jester in his '15 Finals. Averaged 35.8 ppg.

How about CONTEXT. Shot like SHIT in EVERY game. All while being SINGLED. And as bad as he shot overall, when the Warriors put Iguadala on Shrinkage...just HORRIFIC shooting. In fact, Iggy was EASILY the best player on the floor in that Finals, and won a well-deserved FMVP. Think about that... a role player, coming off the bench, winning a FMVP in series in which LeClank averaged 36 ppg.

Compare that with Wilt's '72 WCF's (which essentially decided the NBA title...albeit, Chamberlain was DOMINANT in the '72 Finals, as well...en route to winning the FMVP.)

Here was Chamberlain, averaging 11 ppg, and allowing a peak Kareem to average 34 ppg...and yet, by ALL ACCOUNTS, including the MILWAUKEE PRESS...outplaying Kareem. Hell, TIME MAGAZINE went so far to claim that a 35 year old Wilt DECISIVELY outplayed the 25 year old Kareem. Kareem couldn't hit a shot in the last four pivotal games of that series (.414), and watched helplessly as Chamberlain was knocking the "unblockable" sky-hook all over the gym.

Then, how about these two series?

In Chamberlain's 64-65 season, he was traded mid-year, for three decent players, to a team that had gone 34-46 the year before. He then single-handedly carried what was a 40-40 team, past Oscar's stacked 48-32 Royals in the first round.

Then, he took that roster, which had gone 34-46 without him...up against the six-time defending champion, and 62-18 Celtics, with SIX HOFers, and at the peal of their dynasty...

to a game seven, one point loss. In a game in which Chamberlain scored 30 pts on 12-15 shooting (and with a .724 TS%), with 32 rebounds. And in that game, he scored Philly's last 8 points, including 2-2 from the line with 36 secs remaining, and a dunk over Russell with 5 secs left...to pull the Sixers to within 110-109. Then, after the "clutch" Russell hit a guidewire with an inbounds pass, the Sixers had a chance to pull off the greatest upset in NBA playoff history. Alas, a Wilt teammate, Hal Greer, threw an inbounds pass that was picked off by Hondo. Oh, and while Chamberlain shot 12-15 from the floor, his teammates collectively shot 28-75 from the floor.. .373...in that one point loss.

For the series, Chamberlain averaged 30.1 ppg, with 31.4 rpg (and a 24.8 TRB%), on a .555 FG% (in a series in which the two teams combined to shoot .413 overall), and with a .575 TS%.

Oh, and then Boston went on to rout the Baylor-less Lakers in the Finals, 4-1, which included two 30+ point blowout wins. In a series in which Russell averaged 18-25-6 on a .702 FG%. And against this center...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&hint=Leroy+Ellis&player_id1_select=Leroy+Ellis&player_id1=ellisle01&hint=Wilt+Chamberlain&player_id2_select=Wilt+Chamberlain&player_id2=chambwi01

Compare that with Lebron's '16 Finals. Took a 57-25 team up against a 73-9 team that barely won a seven game series against a 55 win team, and was outscored in that series. Then, after the Warriors went up 3-1, the NBA suspended Draymond Green; Andrew Bogut, their rim-protector, missed the last two games with an injury; and the "Lebron-Stopper" Iguadala injured his back and was just a shell in the last two games of the series.

In the game seven win, Lebron shot 9-24 from the field, including 0-4 in the last four minutes. He needed a great defensive stop by Kevin Love (of all people), and a game winning trey from Kyrie to win the game.

Lebron's game seven stats:

27 points, on 9-24 from the field, with an eFG% of .396, in a game in which the two teams combined to shoot .450. And with a TS% of .475, in a game in which the two teams combined to shoot a TS% of .501.

He also had a teammate score 26 points, on a .478 eFG%, and a .525 TS%.

The best player on the floor in that game seven?

How about Draymond Green, who as you will recall, was suspended in game five. Green put up a game high 32 points, on a .933 eFG% and a .955 TS%, with a game high 15 rebounds.

James had a great series, but not a Wilt-esque '65 EDF's.

29.7 ppg, 11.3 rpg, 8.9 apg on a .533 eFG%, and a .562 TS%, in a series in which both teams shot considerably higher than the teams in Wilt's '65 EDF's.

In any case... Lebron was one shot away from losing the '16 Finals, and Wilt was one bad inbounds pass away from winning a ring in '65.

BTW...none other than John Wooden claimed that had Wilt and Russell swapped rosters in their 10 years in the league together, and it would have been Wilt holding all those rings.

Lebron23

10-23-2016, 08:15 PM

Modern Day Willt Chokerbelain.

aj1987

10-23-2016, 08:15 PM

Love how you forget that Love was playing injured. As were Irving and Shumpert. Yeah, lets ignore that though. Only when it comes to Chokerlain failing on a constant basis, we bring up stuff like that. It's quite hilarious that you think Chokerlain is the GOAT, but blame the '69 loss on his freaking coach. :oldlol:

They lost in the Finals, you drooling retard. They didn't lose in the conference Finals. LeBron choked in the Finals (just like your lover), not the conference Finals. Even with that choke, Miami were one missed 3 away from taking a 3-0 lead. You would know that, if you watched the games, instead of going over numbers for days together.

BTW, Wade had a typical Chokerlain Finals game in G6.

I'm not doing this, as it's been done several times before. Look up the DRtg's and the ranks of the teams LeBron played against. Not really that hard.

Fact #1 - Chokerlain played in an absolutely shitty and garbage ass era
Fact #2 - Chokerlain played for his stats and didn't give a shit about winning
Fact #3 - Chokerlain choked HARD and this can be evidenced by his significant drop off in production

.511 FT% shooter in the regular season
.465 in the playoffs
.375 in the finals

Chamberlains ppg in regular season: 30.1
Chamberlains ppg in playoffs: 22.5
Chamberlain's ppg in the Finals: 18

Default NBA choking rating

Advanced Formula: Losses with HCA + playoff ppg drop + finals ppg drop + playoff rpg drop + finals rpg drop + playoff apg drop + finals apg drop + playoff fg% drop + finals fg% drop + playoff ft% drop + finals ft% drop - rings

Wilt Chamberlain: 5 + (30.1-22.5) + (30.1-18.6) + (22.9-24.9) + (22.9-24.6) + (4.4-4.2) + (4.4-3.8) + (54.0-52.2) + (54.0-55.9) + (51.1-46.5) + (51.1-37.5) - 2 = 37.3

Ilt's scoring drop off from the RS to the PO's:

'60 - -4.4
'61 - -1.4
'62 - -15.4
'63 - Missed the PO's despite averaging 44.8/24.3/3.4 on 52.8%
'64 - -2.2
'65 - -5.4
'66 - -5.5
'67 - -2.4
'68 - -0.6
'69 - -6.6
'70 - -5.2 (Injured his knee, so not really gonna count this year)
'71 - -2.4
'72 - -0.1
'73 - -2.8

Those numbers would translate to ~15 PPG in the '90's, BTW. Playing in a weak ass era definitely helped boost his stats.

Ilt's FG% from the RS to the PO's:

1960 - +3.5
1961 - -4.0
1962 - -3.9
1964 - +1.8
1965 - +2.0
1966 - -3.1
1967 - -10.4
1968 - -6.1
1979 - -3.8
1970 - -1.9
1971 - -9.0
1972 - -8.6
1973 - -17.5

Lets look at a couple of physical behemoths from the '60's:

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https://s9.postimg.org/kbgksv7a7/Bob_Cousy_1950_17688992.jpg
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https://s10.postimg.org/uu0cjmfnt/Bob_Pettit_1962.jpg

Stick figures? Yep.

1973 NBA Finals
Lakers had HCA but lost the series in 5 games. Lakers lost by 4 points in Game 2 in which Wilt shot 1-9 from the freethrow line. Wilt put up 5 points in Game 3 which the Lakers lost by 4 points again. In Game 5 Wilt shot 5-14 from the freethrow line. This capped off Wilt's 5th series loss with HCA to end his career.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 14-38 (36.8%)

1970 NBA Finals
Another Game 7 loss for the Lakers. Wilt shot 1-10 from the freethrow in a Game 1 loss. In Game 7 Wilt shot 11 freethrow attempts, only making 1.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 23-67 (34.3%)
Wilt's FT shooting in Game 7: 1-11 (9.1%)

1969 NBA Finals
Lakers had HCA and were up 2-0 in the series and also 3-2 after Game 5. Lakers managed to lose the next 2 games including a 2 point loss in Game 7 in which Wilt missed 9 freethrows (4-13) while Jerry West put up 42-13-12 and won Finals MVP. Wilt shot 1-5 from the filed and missed 8 freethrows in a Game 6 loss and 1-5 from the field in Game 2. In a pivotal Game 4 Wilt shot 2-11 from the line in a 1-point loss, a win would have gave the Lakers a 3-1 series lead. Boston Celtic Sam Jones outscored Wilt Chamberlain again in Game 7, doing so in all 4 Game 7s.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 24-66 (36.4%)
Wilt's FT shooting in Game 7: 4-13 (30.8%)

1968 Division Finals
Another HCA series loss for Wilt. Wilt shot 6-21 from the field and missed 15 freethrows in a Game 6 loss. In Game 7, Wilt made 4 field goals and missed 9 freethrows in a 4 point loss. Wilt was the 9th leading scorer and the 5th leading scorer on his own team in that game 7 with 14 points

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 39-91 (42.9%)
Wilt FT shooting in Game 7: 6-15 (40.0%)

1966 Division Finals
His Sixers lost to Boston in 5 games. In the elimination Game 5, Wilt missed 17 freethrows (8-25) in a 8 point loss.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 28-68 (41.2%)

1965 Division Finals
Wilt shot 7-21 from the field in a Game 3 loss. The Sixers lost by 1 point in Game 7, Wilt missed 7 freethrows (6-13) in that game. Wilt was once again outscored by Sam Jones in a Game 7.

1964 NBA Finals
His team lost the series in 5 games. Wilt shot 4-12 from the freethrow line in a Game 1 loss.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 22-48 (45.8%)

1963 Regular season
Wilt led his team to a 31-49 record, a record too poor to make the playoffs.

1962 Division Finals
Coming off his 50.4 ppg season, his PPG in the Playoffs dropped down by 15 points. In Game 7, Wilt was the 4th leading scorer with 22 points in a loss.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 22-48 (45.8%)

1961 Division Semifinals
Wilt's Warriors had HCA and were facing the 38-41 Nationals. The result? The sub .500 Nationals swept Wilt's team 3-0. In an elimination Game 3 Wilt shot 7-14 from the freethrow line in a 3-point loss.

Wilt FT shooting for the series: 21-38 (55.3%)

1960 Division Finals
After a regular season of 38.4 ppg, Wilt followed that up with a 30.5 ppg series in the Division Finals vs. Boston.

Wilt FT shooting for the series: 35-65 (53.8%)

LAZERUSS

10-23-2016, 08:17 PM

Funny, cause you're the retard who admitted to not watching any games.

Find where I ever made that claim.

I have WATCHED virtually all the greats from the mid-60's on.

My perspective has changed throughout the years...as have my "lists", but I have WATCHED a TON of basketball in my life, and most assuredly more than you.

LAZERUSS

10-23-2016, 08:19 PM

You do know that he was 1-5 from deep that game, right? Of course you don't.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

How many did he take when he is team was down by nine with 54 seconds remaining? You know, when they NEEDED him to take them?

aj1987

10-23-2016, 08:26 PM

:roll: :roll: :roll:

How many did he take when he is team was down by nine with 54 seconds remaining? You know, when they NEEDED him to take them?
For a retard who watched "virtually all the greats from the '60's onwards", you know jack shit about basketball. LeBron was shooting ~30% on 3's up until that point in the Finals. Any coach with even a modicum of basketball knowledge would not want him to take 3's. Kyrie, even though he was pretty back from deep as well, was a much better option to take 3's. Heck, Irving took a shot as well and it was a 2. Even he didn't attempt a 3. JR, who shot lights out in the first 3 rounds, would've been a better option, even though he wasn't on target through the first 3 Q's.

I don't even understand why I'm discussing basketball with someone who's basketball knowledge is strictly limited to BB-Ref and box scores.

LAZERUSS

10-23-2016, 08:30 PM

1973 NBA Finals
Lakers had HCA but lost the series in 5 games. Lakers lost by 4 points in Game 2 in which Wilt shot 1-9 from the freethrow line. Wilt put up 5 points in Game 3 which the Lakers lost by 4 points again. In Game 5 Wilt shot 5-14 from the freethrow line. This capped off Wilt's 5th series loss with HCA to end his career.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 14-38 (36.8%)

1970 NBA Finals
Another Game 7 loss for the Lakers. Wilt shot 1-10 from the freethrow in a Game 1 loss. In Game 7 Wilt shot 11 freethrow attempts, only making 1.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 23-67 (34.3%)
Wilt's FT shooting in Game 7: 1-11 (9.1%)

1969 NBA Finals
Lakers had HCA and were up 2-0 in the series and also 3-2 after Game 5. Lakers managed to lose the next 2 games including a 2 point loss in Game 7 in which Wilt missed 9 freethrows (4-13) while Jerry West put up 42-13-12 and won Finals MVP. Wilt shot 1-5 from the filed and missed 8 freethrows in a Game 6 loss and 1-5 from the field in Game 2. In a pivotal Game 4 Wilt shot 2-11 from the line in a 1-point loss, a win would have gave the Lakers a 3-1 series lead. Boston Celtic Sam Jones outscored Wilt Chamberlain again in Game 7, doing so in all 4 Game 7s.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 24-66 (36.4%)
Wilt's FT shooting in Game 7: 4-13 (30.8%)

1968 Division Finals
Another HCA series loss for Wilt. Wilt shot 6-21 from the field and missed 15 freethrows in a Game 6 loss. In Game 7, Wilt made 4 field goals and missed 9 freethrows in a 4 point loss. Wilt was the 9th leading scorer and the 5th leading scorer on his own team in that game 7 with 14 points

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 39-91 (42.9%)
Wilt FT shooting in Game 7: 6-15 (40.0%)

1966 Division Finals
His Sixers lost to Boston in 5 games. In the elimination Game 5, Wilt missed 17 freethrows (8-25) in a 8 point loss.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 28-68 (41.2%)

1965 Division Finals
Wilt shot 7-21 from the field in a Game 3 loss. The Sixers lost by 1 point in Game 7, Wilt missed 7 freethrows (6-13) in that game. Wilt was once again outscored by Sam Jones in a Game 7.

1964 NBA Finals
His team lost the series in 5 games. Wilt shot 4-12 from the freethrow line in a Game 1 loss.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 22-48 (45.8%)

1963 Regular season
Wilt led his team to a 31-49 record, a record too poor to make the playoffs.

1962 Division Finals
Coming off his 50.4 ppg season, his PPG in the Playoffs dropped down by 15 points. In Game 7, Wilt was the 4th leading scorer with 22 points in a loss.

Wilt's FT shooting for the series: 22-48 (45.8%)

1961 Division Semifinals
Wilt's Warriors had HCA and were facing the 38-41 Nationals. The result? The sub .500 Nationals swept Wilt's team 3-0. In an elimination Game 3 Wilt shot 7-14 from the freethrow line in a 3-point loss.

Wilt FT shooting for the series: 21-38 (55.3%)

1960 Division Finals
After a regular season of 38.4 ppg, Wilt followed that up with a 30.5 ppg series in the Division Finals vs. Boston.

Wilt FT shooting for the series: 35-65 (53.8%)

'60: In Wilt's rookie season he took what had been a LAST PLACE team the year before, to a 49-26 record. In the first round of the playoffs he single-handedly carried that roster to a series win with a 39-23 series, and in the winner-take-all closing game...put up a 53-22 game.

Then, he took a roster, that was man-for-man, badly outclassed, to a game six, two point loss, against a HOF-laden 59-16 Celtics team, in a series in which he averaged 31-27, and on a .500 FG%, in a post-season NBA that shot .402 overall. Oh, and in a must win game five, all he could do was crush Russell with a massive 50-35 game.

'61? Yep...all Wilt's fault. All he did was hang a 37-23 series, while his teammates collectively shot .332 from the field. But yes, blame Wilt's missed FTs. Amazing how Shaq played on two title teams in which he had Finals of .387 and .292 from the line. Must have been his FT shooting that won those series.

'62? In the first round of the playoffs, Chamberlain averaged a 37-23, and in the clinching game five do-or-die game, he put up the greatest triple double in playoff history... a 56-35-12 game.

Then Chamberlain dragged essentially the same last place roster that he inherited in his rookie season, but now older and worse, to a game seven, two point loss, in a series in which he averaged 34-27. He also hung two 40+ point games, including one game in which he outscored Russell, 42-9, and outrebounded him, 37-20. In that game seven, newspaper recaps at the time, and opposing Boston players praised Wilt's DEFENSE. And in the last minute, Wilt scored Philly's last five points, to tie the game, but Same Jones hit the game-winner. BTW, the Celtics were favored in EVERY game of that seven game series. Oh, and BTW, Wilt went 8-9 from the LINE in that game seven. Funny how the poster (who actually stole this garbage from some idiot who posted this years ago)...missed that, huh?

Continued...

LAZERUSS

10-23-2016, 08:32 PM

'63? Yep, and he did so while leading the league in FIFTEEN statistical categories, including...get this... WIN SHARES.

But, more on that in a moment...

'64? Wilt essentially took that SAME exact roster that went 31-49 the year before, to a 48-32 record. The only addition was rookie Nate Thurmond, who played part-time, out of position, and shot .395 from the field.

In the WDF's, Chamberlain faced the ONLY Western Division foe until the '67 Finals. How did he perform? Put up a 39-23 .559 FG% series (in a post-season NBA that shot .420.) And in the clinching game seven win... a 39-30-10 game.

In the Finals, Wilt's Warriors were outgunned in HOFers, 8-3, which was bad enough. But Wilt's two "HOFers" were rookie Thurmond, a part-timer, and Guy Rodgers, who was the worst shooter of his era. And yes, they lost the series, 4-1, but the last two games were decided in the waning seconds. In those two losses, Chamberlain hung games of 27-38, and 30-27. For the series, Chamberlain outscored Russell, per game, 29-11, outrebounded Russell, per game, 28-25, and outshot Russell from the floor by a .517 to .386 margin (again, in a post-season that shot .420 overall.) Oh, and how did Wilt's two "HOF" teammates do? Thurmond shot .326 from the floor, and Rodgers shot .258. And there are those that claim that LeShrinkage had no help in his '15 Finals.

'65? This is one of my favorites.

Wilt was TRADED at mid-season, to a team that had gone 34-46 the year before, for three players and a boatload of cash. Even with Wilt they only went 40-40.

However, he SINGLE-HANDEDLY destroyed Oscar's stacked 48-32 roster in the first round, which included a clinching performance of 38-26.

Then, he took that massively outgunned roster, to a game seven, one point loss, against a HOF-laden 62-18 Celtics team at the peak of their dynasty. For the series, all Wilt could do was put up the most dominant performance in NBA playoff history...and against the GOAT defensive center in NBA history. Averaged 30.1 ppg, 31.4 rpg, 3.3 apg, had a 25.1 TRB%, blocked 7.0 shots per game, shot .555 from the floor, in a series in which the two teams combined to shoot .413 overall;and had a TS% of .575...in a series in which the two teams combined to shoot a .465 TS%. A staggering full 11 percentage points above the series average.

And how about this? Wilt led BOTH teams in MPG, PPG, RPG, BPG, TRB%, FG%, and TS%.

And in game seven, Wilt scored 30 points, including Philly's last eight points, with 32 rebounds, and on an .800 FG%, and on a phenomenal .724 TS%. His teammates collectively shot 29-75 from the floor (.373) in a one point loss. And if Hondo hadn't stolen the ball, it would have been the greatest upset in NBA playoff history.

As for "once again being outscored by Sam Jones in a game seven"...Jones was a GUARD. BTW, Chamberlain was the leading scorer in these Celtic series in '60, '62, '64, '65, and '66. He also outscored Jones in '67. So Jones was barely able to oustcore Wilt in '68, and then in '69. Enough of the "Jones outscored Wilt in game sevens" nonsense.

'66? In that elimination game, Chamberlain had 46 points (19-34 from the field.) He also shot .509 from the floor in that series, while his teammates collectively shot .352.

For the series, all Chamberlain could do was average 28 ppg, 30 rpg, and shoot .509 from the field.

BTW, Wilt led the NBA in scoring, rebounding, and FG% that season, all while leading his team to the best record in the league.

Continued...

LAZERUSS

10-23-2016, 08:33 PM

The poster left out Wilt's '67 post-season, so here goes:

First round, Wilt averages ...get this... 28.0 ppg, 26.5 rpg, 11.0 apg, and on a .617 FG%.

In the EDF's, and against Russell's 60-21 Celtics, Chamberlain destroys the Dynasty in a near sweep. He outscores Russell, per game, 22-11; ourebounds him, per game, 32-23; outassists per game, 10-6; and outshoots him from the field by a .556-.358 margin.

In the clincher, Wilt outscored Russell, 29-4; outrebounded him, 36-21; outshot him from the floor, 10-16 to 2-5; and outassisted him, 13-7. He even found time to record 7 blocks.

In the Finals, Wilt buries Nate Thurmond in Nate's peak season. He outscores him in five of the six games; outrebounds him in five of the six games; outassists him in five of the six games; and outshot him in every game. BTW, he outshot Nate by a .560 to .343 margin. Oh, and a peak Kareem faced Thurmond in three straight post-season series, and shot .486, .428, and .405 against him.

Overall, a 21-29-9 .579 playoff run. And in series in which he annihilated his HOF peers.

'68? The Sixers were DECIMATED by injuries in that post-season, that they weren't even favored against the Knicks in the first round.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...1&postcount=14

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...6&postcount=13

Chamberlain, himself, was playing with multiple injuries, including a tear in his calf muscle. And again, they were without HOFer Billy Cunningham the entire series.

So here was Wilt playing with injuries that we KNOW that guys like Kareem, LeChoke, and Reed would not have (my god, LeFlop was carried off the floor with MENSTRUAL CRAMPS for cryingoutloud.) Not only that, but Wilt hung a 22-25-7 series.

It was truly amazing that he even played at all, and it was just as amazing that a Sixers roster that was just decimated by injuries and missed games, lost a game seven by four points.

'69? In the game three six point loss, Chamberlain put up a 16-26 game on 55% shooting, while West and Baylor combined to shoot 1-10 from the floor in the 4th quarter.

In that game four loss, Wilt shot 2-11 from the line, while his counterpart Russell, shot 2-12 from the floor. Oh, and how about Baylor in that game? 2-14 from the field, and 1-6 from the line...in a one point loss.

In the game seven, two point loss, all Wilt could do was hang an 18-27-10 triple-double, and on a game high .656 from the floor. West had a .569 TS%, Baylor had a .455 TS%, and Wilt's counterpart Russell put up a 6 pt, 21 reb, .342 TS% game.

But yes, blame Wilt...who, BTW, was not even in the game in the last five minutes, thanks to his incompetent coach, who promptly quit before being fired.

'70? This is truly laughable. Wilt shredded his knee early in the season, and was playing only four months after major knee surgery.

Not only that, but he was clearly the Lakers best player in that series, despite playing on one leg. He hung the ONLY 20-20 .600 Finals in NBA history (23-24 .625), and in the last two "must win games" had games of 45-27 on 20-27 shooting, and then 21-24 on .625 shooting. Oh, and how did he fare against a one-legged FMVP Reed in the last three games of Finals? He outscored him by an 88-10 margin; outrebounded him by a 71-3 margin; and outshot him from the floor by a 39-55 to 4-10 margin (.708 to .400.)

All this accomplished with a huge underdog 46-36 team that faced a HOF laden 60-22 Knicks team with HCA in the Finals.

As for the "1-11" from the line in game seven...the Lakers were down by 27 points at halftime, and his missed FTs had no bearing on the game. His TEAMMATES poor play, particularly that of an injured Jerry West, who was just slaughtered by Walt Frazier, contributed far more to that rout.

Poster didn't mention Wilt's '71 post-season. The post-season in which he didn't have his two best teammates, West and Baylor, and was playing only a year after major knee surgery. Wilt led his underdog Lakers past the Bulls in the first round, and then statistically battled a peak Kareem to a draw in the WCF's, albeit in a 4-1 series loss. In fact, Wilt actually outplayed Kareem in three of those five games, and one of the others was a draw.

Nor did he mention Wilt's '72 post-season. Chamberlain led a team that had gone 48-34 the year before, and that then jettisoned Baylor, to a 69-13 record. In the WCF's, and despite being heavily outscored by a peak Kareem, he, by ALL accounts, outplayed KAJ. In fact, Time Magazine went so far as to claim that Wilt DECISIVELY OUTPLAYED Kareem in that series. A shot-jacking Kareem shot .457 from the floor in that series, and in the last four games he could only shoot .414! The Lakers knocked off the defending champions, and effectively ended their dynasty before it ever got going.

Chamberlain then absolutely crushed the Knicks and their five HOFers in the Finals. He put up a 19-23-7 .600 series, and in the clincher and playing the game with one badly sprained wrist, and the other FRACTURED, he hung a 24-29-8 game on 10-14 shooting. Oh, and he did carried "Mr. Clutch" West, who shot a horrific .325 from the floor, to his only ring. Of course Chamberlain won the FMVP.

'73? Unlike the '72 Finals, which were dominated by the Lakers, the '73 Finals had all five games decided in the last minute. And with West once again puking all over the floor, including 5-17 from the field in the clinching game loss, and with Hairston nowhere near 100%, the Lakers fell 4-1. In Wilt's last game of his career, he was the only Laker to play well, putting up a 23-21 game on 9-16 from the floor.

There you have it. Quite a choking resume alright.

Here was Wilt "the choker" routinely putting up 30-20 playoff series, and against the likes of Reed, Bellamy, Thurmond, Kareem, and Russell. In his scoring prime, he averaged 33 ppg in his 52 playoff games, 30 of which came against Russell. Remove the Russell games, and he averaged 36 ppg.

He had post-seasons of 22-21-5, 22-29-9, 24-25-7, 28-30, 29-27, 33-26, 35-25, 35-27, and 37-23. He had post-season series of 30-31, 31-27, 34-27, 37-23, 37-23, 39-23, and 39-23. The man averaged 24.5 rpg, and outrebounded the career record holder in ALL EIGHT of their H2H's. He also averaged an NBA record 24.6 rpg in his six Finals. He had back-to-back triple-double post-season series. He outshot his HOF counterparts in his six Finals by a collective margin of .559 to .439...all while badly outrebounding them.

He had must win playoff games of 42, 45, 46, 50, 50, and 56 points.

In his 23 must-win playoff games he averaged 31.1 ppg, 26.4 rpg, 4.4 apg, and on a .540 FG% (in post-seasons that shot .435 in that same span.) Anbd in his 37 must win and series clinching playoff games... 29.5 rpg, 26.3 rpg, 4.2 apg, and on a .546 FG%.

LAZERUSS

10-23-2016, 08:42 PM

For a retard who watched "virtually all the greats from the '60's onwards", you know jack shit about basketball. LeBron was shooting ~30% on 3's up until that point in the Finals. Any coach with even a modicum of basketball knowledge would not want him to take 3's. Kyrie, even though he was pretty back from deep as well, was a much better option to take 3's. Heck, Irving took a shot as well and it was a 2. Even he didn't attempt a 3. JR, who shot lights out in the first 3 rounds, would've been a better option, even though he wasn't on target through the first 3 Q's.

I don't even understand why I'm discussing basketball with someone who's basketball knowledge is strictly limited to BB-Ref and box scores.

So, you are basically claiming that Shrinkage BLEW the last minute then, right? If he shouldn't be shooting treys, because he obviously was not worth a shit from that range...then why in the hell is he dribbling down a wide-open lane and taking LAYUPS? If he wasn't going to shoot the 3, then he should not even have TOUCHED the ball in the last minute.

But, being the stats-padder that he has been his ENTIRE post-season career, why take a sure-fire air-ball when he could take an uncontested (and completely un-needed) layup? Or THREE of them in a row. Of course, his stats-padding added to Chokurry's stats-padding as well...as Glass went on to go 6-6 from the line in the last minute.