Lebron DESTROYS the Warriors in just 3 sentences

[JT123]

"I know teams switch and pick up new coaches or new players, and their whole goal is kind of they want to beat me," James told cleveland.com. "It's never just about me, but I always hear them saying, 'We gotta beat LeBron.' It's not just me on the court, but I understand that teams get together in this conference and across the league to try to beat me."

Dayum Bron don't do em like that :lol

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/lebron-on-super-teams-teams-get-together-across-the-league-to-try-to-beat-me-102316

[hold this L]

Yes Lebron, I also hate when teams collude because they can't win a title with their current team. Wait.

:biggums: :coleman:

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

"I know teams switch and pick up new coaches or new players, and their whole goal is kind of they want to beat me," James told cleveland.com. "It's never just about me, but I always hear them saying, 'We gotta beat LeBron.' It's not just me on the court, but I understand that teams get together in this conference and across the league to try to beat me."

Dayum Bron don't do em like that :lol

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/lebron-on-super-teams-teams-get-together-across-the-league-to-try-to-beat-me-102316

http://67.media.tumblr.com/4589887e105f7ae491ea7aff7d766c08/tumblr_mt7zdsIpUM1rqfhi2o1_500.gif

What a fking Hypocrite.:roll: :roll: :roll:

[FireDavidKahn]

LBJ went from being a joke to being a literal God in one season.

What a man.

[Nilocon165]

:lebronamazed:

I love this guys attitude now

[r0drig0lac]

:applause:

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

:applause:


Great another shook fakkit.

Focus on the spurts and getting out of the first round lol. :cry: :cry:


http://67.media.tumblr.com/4589887e105f7ae491ea7aff7d766c08/tumblr_mt7zdsIpUM1rqfhi2o1_500.gif

[Uncle Drew]

Great another shook fakkit.

Focus on the spurts and getting out of the first round lol. :cry: :cry:


http://67.media.tumblr.com/4589887e105f7ae491ea7aff7d766c08/tumblr_mt7zdsIpUM1rqfhi2o1_500.gif
Meltdown.

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

Meltdown.


Rent Free :hammerhead: :hammerhead:


http://67.media.tumblr.com/4589887e105f7ae491ea7aff7d766c08/tumblr_mt7zdsIpUM1rqfhi2o1_500.gif

[Prometheus]

This vectors dude is a major f@ggot

[dazzer87]

this *** did the same sh1T when he left Cavs for the Heats......:roll:

[Da Real Lambo]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

this guy did the same TWICE to beat duncan and then curry :roll:

is he aware most consider him the one who INVENTED colluding :lol

[AirBonner]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

this guy did the same TWICE to beat duncan and then curry :roll:

is he aware most consider him the one who INVENTED colluding
Why not post on your Mr. Jabbar account? :confusedshrug:

[JT123]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

this guy did the same TWICE to beat duncan and then curry

is he aware most consider him the one who INVENTED colluding :lol
:facepalm At least have the balls to meltdown on your main account instead of hiding behind one of your dozens of alts

[aj1987]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

this guy did the same TWICE to beat duncan and then curry :roll:

is he aware most consider him the one who INVENTED colluding :lol
Wait. So LeBron joined the Heat to beat Duncan and the Cavs to beat Curry? Moron.

[TommyGriffin]

http://67.media.tumblr.com/4589887e105f7ae491ea7aff7d766c08/tumblr_mt7zdsIpUM1rqfhi2o1_500.gif

What a fking Hypocrite.:roll: :roll: :roll:
:oldlol:

[Bobcats2013]

i don't take this nikka srs. Iggy shut him down by himself. Allen and Kyrie got him 2 chips. stole the MVp from kyrie.

this nikka needs start thinkin relocation pt 3:coleman:

[ArbitraryWater]

LBJ went from being a joke to being a literal God in one season.

What a man.

This... dude is a demi-god at this point. Respected by everyone, and everyone knows Curry/KD are two small pieces of shit compared to him.

What.

A.

Time.

[J Shuttlesworth]

i don't take this nikka srs. Iggy shut him down by himself. Allen and Kyrie got him 2 chips. stole the MVp from kyrie.

this nikka needs start thinkin relocation pt 3:coleman:
Where do all these half retarded Warriors fans keep coming from? :biggums:

[Bankaii]

Wait. So LeBron joined the Heat to beat Duncan and the Cavs to beat Curry? Moron.
I was hoping someone else would notice this.
What team did Lebron join after 2015 to beat Curry:oldlol:

[Spurs m8]

this guy did the same TWICE to beat duncan and then curry :roll:



Join date checks out

[aj1987]

Where do all these half retarded Warriors fans keep coming from? :biggums:
Warriorfag and his dozens of alts.

[D-Wait]

Isn't this directed at Paul George and his recent comments about the Pacers being competitive again to go against the Cavs, Lebron?

[Ramza]

I would do anything for this THICK man.... :bowdown:

[34-24 Footwork]

Lmao. Dude is beyond delusional. Few years ago he got locked up by a nigguh that look like Pusha T with down syndrome.


And a year later he was locked up one on one by a geriatric Iguodala.

January 18th- the Warriors beat them nigguz so bad that they switched coaches the next day. Lol.

[aj1987]

Lmao. Dude is beyond delusional. Few years ago he got locked up by a nigguh that look like Pusha T with down syndrome.


And a year later he was locked up one on one by a geriatric Iguodala.

January 18th- the Warriors beat them nigguz so bad that they switched coaches the next day. Lol.
Kinda funny considering the fact that even when LeBron is "locked up" by a 2x DPOY and another elite defender, he puts up significantly better percentages and massively better numbers than your idol.

[34-24 Footwork]

2014- Bron gets reduced to playing garbage minutes to rack up stats against Spurs second unit after getting locked up for 3 quarters by Leonard.

2015- Kyrie drops a smooth 57 on Leonard's noggin without sweating.

2015- Kyrie is injured, so he doesn't get a chance to ABUSE Curry.

2016- Kyrie is best player in the playoffs. Kyrie ABUSES Curry. Kyrie dominates game 7.


Any attempt to deviate from the facts above will be pathetic.

[SouBeachTalents]

2014- Bron gets reduced to playing garbage minutes to rack up stats against Spurs second unit after getting locked up for 3 quarters by Leonard.

2015- Kyrie drops a smooth 57 on Leonard's noggin without sweating.

2015- Kyrie is injured, so he doesn't get a chance to ABUSE Curry.

2016- Kyrie is best player in the playoffs. Kyrie ABUSES Curry. Kyrie dominates game 7.


Any attempt to deviate from the facts above will be pathetic.

Kyrie was not better than LeBron in the playoffs :oldlol:

[Uncle Drew]

2014- Bron gets reduced to playing garbage minutes to rack up stats against Spurs second unit after getting locked up for 3 quarters by Leonard.

2015- Kyrie drops a smooth 57 on Leonard's noggin without sweating.

2015- Kyrie is injured, so he doesn't get a chance to ABUSE Curry.

2016- Kyrie is best player in the playoffs. Kyrie ABUSES Curry. Kyrie dominates game 7.


Any attempt to deviate from the facts above will be pathetic.
Man, shut up already.

[34-24 Footwork]

Kyrie is a superstar and has elevated himself as so in the finals. Stay mad.

[egokiller]

"I know teams switch and pick up new coaches or new players, and their whole goal is kind of they want to beat me," James told cleveland.com. "It's never just about me, but I always hear them saying, 'We gotta beat LeBron.' It's not just me on the court, but I understand that teams get together in this conference and across the league to try to beat me."

Dayum Bron don't do em like that :lol

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/lebron-on-super-teams-teams-get-together-across-the-league-to-try-to-beat-me-102316

This troll attempt from lebron is cringeworthy because he's lost 4 times in the finals. No one is "trying" to beat him. GSW was already formed before he ran back to cleveland with his tail in between his legs with all the trading power that cleveland had. He's already lost more times than he's won and he's insecure about it....... hence the quote. Instead of saying nothing and letting his game do his talking which would make Durant feel like an even bigger bitch than he is, he ****s up and says some stupid shit like this. The only ones that think it was correct for him to open his mouth are his moronic stans. :facepalm

34-24 Footwork is styling in this thread like Jason Terry styling on Lebron.

[aj1987]

2014- Bron gets reduced to playing garbage minutes to rack up stats against Spurs second unit after getting locked up for 3 quarters by Leonard.
LeBron averaged like 3 points in the 4th Q's of the '14 Finals. Also, he only played ~6 minutes a games. His worst shooting quarter was also the 4th Q. So, how was he padding in the 4th, when he barely scored/played and he did it so on worse efficiency than the first 3 Q's?


2015- Kyrie drops a smooth 57 on Leonard's noggin without sweating.
Kyrie scored only TWICE on Kawhi, you retard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXxt8hJbelo&spfreload=10

The game also went to OT. "Without sweating" doe. :roll:


2015- Kyrie is injured, so he doesn't get a chance to ABUSE Curry.
And yet, LeBron was able to drag his team to 6 games against a 67 win team. We'll have this conversation when Irving is able to the same with Delly and JR and his 2nd and 3rd best players.


2016- Kyrie is best player in the playoffs. Kyrie ABUSES Curry. Kyrie dominates game 7.
Player A - 26.3 PPG 9.5 RPG 7.6 APG 2.3 SPG 1.3 BPG on 58.5% TS with DPOY level defense

Player B - 25.2 PPG 3.0 RPG 4.7 APG 1.7 SPG 0.6 BPG on 57.4% TS with mediocre defense

But yeah, Kyrie was the best player in the PO's though. Chokebe stans... :roll:


Any attempt to deviate from the facts above will be pathetic.
I think you do not know the difference between facts and opinions. What you posted was your retarded opinion and flat out BS. What I posted are FACTS.


..
The guy got humiliated and exposed as a fraud. He's never going back to his Straight_****** account.

[oh the horror]

This is a stretch for even his own fans to defend.

[plowking]

LeBron averaged like 3 points in the 4th Q's of the '14 Finals. Also, he only played ~6 minutes a games. His worst shooting quarter was also the 4th Q. So, how was he padding in the 4th, when he barely scored/played and he did it so on worse efficiency than the first 3 Q's?


Kyrie scored only TWICE on Kawhi, you retard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXxt8hJbelo&spfreload=10

The game also went to OT. "Without sweating" doe. :roll:


And yet, LeBron was able to drag his team to 6 games against a 67 win team. We'll have this conversation when Irving is able to the same with Delly and JR and his 2nd and 3rd best players.


Player A - 26.3 PPG 9.5 RPG 7.6 APG 2.3 SPG 1.3 BPG on 58.5% TS with DPOY level defense

Player B - 25.2 PPG 3.0 RPG 4.7 APG 1.7 SPG 0.6 BPG on 57.4% TS with mediocre defense

But yeah, Kyrie was the best player in the PO's though. Chokebe stans... :roll:


I think you do not know the difference between facts and opinions. What you posted was your retarded opinion and flat out BS. What I posted are FACTS.


The guy got humiliated and exposed as a fraud. He's never going back to his Straight_****** account.


Wow. Talk about absolutely destroying someones bullshit post. :applause:

Can't believe people believe some of the fantasy they write on here.

[LAZERUSS]

The Jester statistically had his best Finals of his career in the '14 Finals.

However, when the games were close, he was pure shit. When the games were blowouts, he put up big numbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y02r-Dz5cMw

The Spurs didn't give a shit about him when they were running up huge leads.

CLEARLY, LeCOWARD had ZERO IMPACT in that Finals.

All Shrinkage did in that Finals was "lead" his team to the worst blowout series loss in NBA Finals history.

Of course, he was already waving the white flag in game one...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HHxkTHjBZo

And not the first time, either...

https://showmehow2play.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/411082-lebron-james.jpg

[Paul George 24]

"I know teams switch and pick up new coaches or new players, and their whole goal is kind of they want to beat me," James told cleveland.com. "It's never just about me, but I always hear them saying, 'We gotta beat LeBron.' It's not just me on the court, but I understand that teams get together in this conference and across the league to try to beat me."

Dayum Bron don't do em like that :lol

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/lebron-on-super-teams-teams-get-together-across-the-league-to-try-to-beat-me-102316
u mean the coward who join miami ??????????

[Lebron23]

Kubetards having a meltdown as usual.

[aj1987]

The Jester statistically had his best Finals of his career in the '64 Finals.

However, when the games were close, he was pure shit. When the games were blowouts, he put up big numbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOS7lNTABzc

The Celtics didn't give a shit about him when they were running up huge leads.

CLEARLY, Chokerlain had ZERO IMPACT in that Finals.

All Shrinkage did in that Finals was "lead" his team to the worst blowout series loss in NBA Finals history.
Agreed, stan of a roided up choking mental midget. :cheers: :cheers:

[SouBeachTalents]

The Jester statistically had his best Finals of his career in the '14 Finals.

However, when the games were close, he was pure shit. When the games were blowouts, he put up big numbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y02r-Dz5cMw

The Spurs didn't give a shit about him when they were running up huge leads.

CLEARLY, LePUKE had ZERO IMPACT in that Finals.

All Shrinkage did in that Finals was "lead" his team to the worst blowout series loss in NBA Finals history.

No it wasn't. 30/11/9/3/2 on 49% > 28/8/4/2/0 on 57%. Literally just his efficiency was better.

[JT123]

This troll attempt from lebron is cringeworthy because he's lost 4 times in the finals. No one is "trying" to beat him. GSW was already formed before he ran back to cleveland with his tail in between his legs with all the trading power that cleveland had. He's already lost more times than he's won and he's insecure about it....... hence the quote. Instead of saying nothing and letting his game do his talking which would make Durant feel like an even bigger bitch than he is, he ****s up and says some stupid shit like this. The only ones that think it was correct for him to open his mouth are his moronic stans. :facepalm

34-24 Footwork is styling in this thread like Jason Terry styling on Lebron.
Are you ever gonna have the balls to post on your Straight_Ballin account again? Hiding behind all these alts is just sad

[LAZERUSS]

No it wasn't. 30/11/9/3/2 on 49% > 28/8/4/2/0 on 57%. Literally just his efficiency was better.

Well, his '14 Finals were, BY FAR, the most efficient of his Finals. .571 FG%, a .648 eFG%, and a .679 TS%...all with ZERO IMPACT.

Again, most all of those numbers came after the games were already blowouts (which were either over at half-time, or shortly thereafter.) He had a 19 point 3rd quarter in one of them, in which the Spurs INCREASED their huge halftime lead of 19 points, to 24 at the end of that quarter.

The Spurs didn't give a shit about him in that series.

[aj1987]

Well, his '14 Finals were, BY FAR, the most efficient of his Finals. .571 FG%, a .648 eFG%, and a .679 TS%...all with ZERO IMPACT.

Again, most all of those numbers came after the games were already blowouts (which were either over at half-time, or shortly thereafter.) He had a 19 point 3rd quarter in one of them, in which the Spurs INCREASED their huge halftime lead of 19 points, to 24 at the end of that quarter.

The Spurs didn't give a shit about him in that series.
Well, that kinda destroys your argument, ****tard. LeBron scored 19 points in the 4th and the Heat still got outscored by 5. He also didn't even play in the 4th after the Spurs went up by 20+.

If only LeBron had someone like '69 West. Incidentally, West scored 39/5/8 and still managed to lose the Finals because of a well known mental midget choker.

[Fire Colangelo]

LeBron averaged like 3 points in the 4th Q's of the '14 Finals. Also, he only played ~6 minutes a games. His worst shooting quarter was also the 4th Q. So, how was he padding in the 4th, when he barely scored/played and he did it so on worse efficiency than the first 3 Q's?


Kyrie scored only TWICE on Kawhi, you retard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXxt8hJbelo&spfreload=10

The game also went to OT. "Without sweating" doe. :roll:


And yet, LeBron was able to drag his team to 6 games against a 67 win team. We'll have this conversation when Irving is able to the same with Delly and JR and his 2nd and 3rd best players.


Player A - 26.3 PPG 9.5 RPG 7.6 APG 2.3 SPG 1.3 BPG on 58.5% TS with DPOY level defense

Player B - 25.2 PPG 3.0 RPG 4.7 APG 1.7 SPG 0.6 BPG on 57.4% TS with mediocre defense

But yeah, Kyrie was the best player in the PO's though. Chokebe stans... :roll:


I think you do not know the difference between facts and opinions. What you posted was your retarded opinion and flat out BS. What I posted are FACTS.


The guy got humiliated and exposed as a fraud. He's never going back to his Straight_****** account.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[LAZERUSS]

Well, that kinda destroys your argument, ****tard. LeBron scored 19 points in the 4th and the Heat still got outscored by 5. He also didn't even play in the 4th after the Spurs went up by 20+.

If only LeBron had someone like '69 West. Incidentally, West scored 39/5/8 and still managed to lose the Finals because of a well known mental midget choker.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

As usual, you obviously didn't watch that series. (And I don't blame you...LeCHOKE was "leading" his team to the worst blowout in NBA Finals history)

He scored 19 worthless points in the 3rd quarter. The Spurs were busy destroying him and his teammates at the other end. Of course, Shrinkage didn't do anything in the first half, when the Spurs blew the game open. Again, SA didn't give a SHIT about Shrinkage in that quarter. Nor in the entire series.

And West LOST that series. It should have been WILT taking the shots. Interesting, too, that the very next season, Wilt's new coach asked WILT to be the focal of the Laker offense, and, as expected, Chamberlain was leading the league in scoring, at 32.2 ppg (with a league-leading 20.6 rpg, and on a .579 FG%)...when he shredded his knee in his ninth game (in a game in which he had scored 33 points, on 13-14 shooting, and in only 28 minutes.)

Of course, two years later, while West was puking all over the court in a Finals in which he shot...get this... .325, it was WILT who carried that team to a dominanting world title...culminated by a 24-29-8 .714 FG% clinching game five (and with a legitimate broken wrist BTW)...en route to the FMVP.

[LAZERUSS]

Well, that kinda destroys your argument, ****tard. LeBron scored 19 points in the 4th and the Heat still got outscored by 5. He also didn't even play in the 4th after the Spurs went up by 20+.

If only LeBron had someone like '69 West. Incidentally, West scored 39/5/8 and still managed to lose the Finals because of a well known mental midget choker.

Gottta love it...

https://books.google.com/books?id=9BaqPfGcI84C&pg=PA355&lpg=PA355&dq=butch+van+breda+kolff+had+wilt+playing+the+high +post&source=bl&ots=rQztR5Zx8f&sig=pxjJyJMFIff_-_-Y5HmdKC2kQBw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjtj-_WgPXPAhWnwFQKHcMMDMAQ6AEIWTAJ#v=onepage&q=butch%20van%20breda%20kolff%20had%20wilt%20playi ng%20the%20high%20post&f=false


Quote:
Chamberlain: "Butch wanted me to play the high post so Elgin could drive to the basket, but they got me for rebounding. Why pull a guy away from the basket when you want him to rebound?"


And here is one of my personal all-time favorites from Van Breda Kolff...

Quote:
Butch Van Breda Kolff: "Not having enough basketballs wasn't the problem at all for us. The trade changed our chemistry. Elgin's favorite move was the drive from the left wing and into the middle. Now, when he did that, he ran into Wilt, and Wilt's man. Wilt took that move away from Elgin. Imhoff loved to pick-and-roll with Elgin, but that wasn't something Wilt did very well. So we were able to throw the ball down low to Wilt and he'd score, but it was an awful offense to watch. When the ball stops moving, then guys don't rebound or play defense as well as they normally would."


Can you imagine Phil going to a PRIME Shaq, and asking him to play the HIGH POST?

That is all you need to know about why the Lakers lost the '69 Finals (and BVK quit immediately afterwards, knowing that he was about to be fired.)

[aj1987]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

As usual, you obviously didn't watch that series. (And I don't blame you...LeCHOKE was "leading" his team to the worst blowout in NBA Finals history)

He scored 19 worthless points in the 3rd quarter. The Spurs were busy destroying him and his teammates at the other end. Of course, Shrinkage didn't do anything in the first half, when the Spurs blew the game open. Again, SA didn't give a SHIT about Shrinkage in that quarter. Nor in the entire series.
I know that you're retarded beyond all measure and that you stan the GOAT choker, but teams do not give before the 3rd Q begins when they're down 19. Especially in the Finals. Well, your mental midget lover might've given up, but not every one does.

Unlike you, I've seen EVERY minute of those Finals and they still hurt. Also, I'm pretty sure that I've seen more games this year alone than you have in your entire pathetic life, Lozerus.


And West LOST that series. It should have been WILT taking the shots. Interesting, too, that the very next season, Wilt's new coach asked WILT to be the focal of the Laker offense, and, as expected, Chamberlain was leading the league in scoring, at 32.2 ppg (with a league-leading 20.6 rpg, and on a .579 FG%)...when he shredded his knee in his ninth game (in a game in which he had scored 33 points, on 13-14 shooting, and in only 28 minutes.)

Of course, two years later, while West was puking all over the court in a Finals in which he shot...get this... .325, it was WILT who carried that team to a dominanting world title...culminated by a 24-29-8 .714 FG% clinching game five (and with a legitimate broken wrist BTW)...en route to the FMVP.
Ilt Chokerlain facts from the '69 Finals:

1. 8th in PPG from both teams

2. 4th in PPG on West's team

3. 2nd WORST FT% from both teams

4. WORST FT% from both team (players who took over 2 FT's a game)

5. Only player in history to lose a ring with two All-Stars, 2 All-NBA, 1 All-Def, and a player averaging 39/5/8

6. 8.8 PPG drop from RS to the Finals

7. 8.3% drop in FG% from RS to the Finals

8. 7.1% drop in FT% from RS to the Finals

9. Stats 'wilted' even though he saw a 2 minute increase in playing time from the RS to the Finals

Again, these are all FACTS, Lozerus. None of them are opinions.

The mental midget, Ilt Chokerlain, was hilariously bad in the postseason. No wonder he's considered to be the GOAT choker and statpadder.

[34-24 Footwork]

Lol @ Kyrie's "mediocre" defense against the unanimous 2x MVP.

You guys are fvcked in the head.

[LAZERUSS]

I know that you're retarded beyond all measure and that you stan the GOAT choker, but teams do not give before the 3rd Q begins when they're down 19. Especially in the Finals. Well, your mental midget lover might've given up, but not every one does.

Unlike you, I've seen EVERY minute of those Finals and they still hurt. Also, I'm pretty sure that I've seen more games this year alone than you have in your entire pathetic life, Lozerus.


Ilt Chokerlain facts from the '69 Finals:

1. 8th in PPG from both teams

2. 4th in PPG on West's team

3. 2nd WORST FT% from both teams

4. WORST FT% from both team (players who took over 2 FT's a game)

5. Only player in history to lose a ring with two All-Stars, 2 All-NBA, 1 All-Def, and a player averaging 39/5/8

6. 8.8 PPG drop from RS to the Finals

7. 8.3% drop in FG% from RS to the Finals

8. 7.1% drop in FT% from RS to the Finals

9. Stats 'wilted' even though he saw a 2 minute increase in playing time from the RS to the Finals

Again, these are all FACTS, Lozerus. None of them are opinions.

The mental midget, Ilt Chokerlain, was hilariously bad in the postseason. No wonder he's considered to be the GOAT choker and statpadder.

STATS-PADDING Shrinkage in the '14 Finals...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y02r-Dz5cMw

FACTS about the '69 Finals:


Gottta love it...

https://books.google.com/books?id=9B...20post&f=false


Quote:
Chamberlain: "Butch wanted me to play the high post so Elgin could drive to the basket, but they got me for rebounding. Why pull a guy away from the basket when you want him to rebound?"


And here is one of my personal all-time favorites from Van Breda Kolff...

Quote:
Butch Van Breda Kolff: "Not having enough basketballs wasn't the problem at all for us. The trade changed our chemistry. Elgin's favorite move was the drive from the left wing and into the middle. Now, when he did that, he ran into Wilt, and Wilt's man. Wilt took that move away from Elgin. Imhoff loved to pick-and-roll with Elgin, but that wasn't something Wilt did very well. So we were able to throw the ball down low to Wilt and he'd score, but it was an awful offense to watch. When the ball stops moving, then guys don't rebound or play defense as well as they normally would."


Can you imagine Phil going to a PRIME Shaq, and asking him to play the HIGH POST?

That is all you need to know about why the Lakers lost the '69 Finals (and BVK quit immediately afterwards, knowing that he was about to be fired.)



West couldn't get it done, and the COACH didn't allow the greatest low-post scorer in NBA history to dominate.

Plain-and-simple.

[LAZERUSS]

Lol @ Kyrie's "mediocre" defense against the unanimous 2x MVP.

You guys are fvcked in the head.

Agreed. Kyrie DOMINATED that series.

[aj1987]

Lol @ Kyrie's "mediocre" defense against the unanimous 2x MVP.

You guys are fvcked in the head.
http://elitesportsny.com/2016/06/07/nba-finals/

I know that that article was written after G3, if I'm not mistaken. Here are some more FACTS:

Kyrie Irving's defensive cover averaged 48.4% FG% usually. When Irving was on them, their FG% went up to 56.4% That's an increase of 8%. Irving's defensive covers attempted 14.4 FGA's on him and made 8.1 of them. That's just terrible.

To put that in perspective, LeBron's defensive assignment usually averaged 47.9% FG%. When LeBron was defending them, it fell to 31.6%. That's a decrease of 16.3% in FG%. Incredible numbers and numbers better than what Kawhi, a 2x DPOY, has ever put up in a series.


STATS-PADDING Shrinkage in the '14 Finals...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y02r-Dz5cMw

FACTS about the '69 Finals:

West couldn't get it done, and the COACH didn't allow the greatest low-post scorer in NBA history to dominate.

Plain-and-simple.
Ilt Chokerlain facts from the '69 Finals:

1. 8th in PPG from both teams

2. 4th in PPG on West's team

3. 2nd WORST FT% from both teams

4. WORST FT% from both team (players who took over 2 FT's a game)

5. Only player in history to lose a ring with two All-Stars, 2 All-NBA, 1 All-Def, and a player averaging 39/5/8

6. 8.8 PPG drop from RS to the Finals

7. 8.3% drop in FG% from RS to the Finals

8. 7.1% drop in FT% from RS to the Finals

9. Stats 'wilted' even though he saw a 2 minute increase in playing time from the RS to the Finals

Again, these are all FACTS, Lozerus. None of them are opinions.

The mental midget, Ilt Chokerlain, was hilariously bad in the postseason. No wonder he's considered to be the GOAT choker and statpadder.

"Greatest low-post scorer" .... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Dude would be lucky to average over 15, if he played in the modern era and not that garbage ass joke era.

[LAZERUSS]

http://elitesportsny.com/2016/06/07/nba-finals/

I know that that article was written after G3, if I'm not mistaken. Here are some more FACTS:

Kyrie Irving's defensive cover averaged 48.4% FG% usually. When Irving was on them, their FG% went up to 56.4% That's an increase of 8%. Irving's defensive covers attempted 14.4 FGA's on him and made 8.1 of them. That's just terrible.

To put that in perspective, LeBron's defensive assignment usually averaged 47.9% FG%. When LeBron was defending them, it fell to 31.6%. That's a decrease of 16.3% in FG%. Incredible numbers and numbers better than what Kawhi, a 2x DPOY, has ever put up in a series.


Ilt Chokerlain facts from the '69 Finals:

1. 8th in PPG from both teams

2. 4th in PPG on West's team

3. 2nd WORST FT% from both teams

4. WORST FT% from both team (players who took over 2 FT's a game)

5. Only player in history to lose a ring with two All-Stars, 2 All-NBA, 1 All-Def, and a player averaging 39/5/8

6. 8.8 PPG drop from RS to the Finals

7. 8.3% drop in FG% from RS to the Finals

8. 7.1% drop in FT% from RS to the Finals

9. Stats 'wilted' even though he saw a 2 minute increase in playing time from the RS to the Finals

Again, these are all FACTS, Lozerus. None of them are opinions.

The mental midget, Ilt Chokerlain, was hilariously bad in the postseason. No wonder he's considered to be the GOAT choker and statpadder.

"Greatest low-post scorer" .... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Dude would be lucky to average over 15, if he played in the modern era and not that garbage ass joke era.

STATS-PADDING Shrinkage at his STATS-PADDING best in the '14 Finals...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y02r-Dz5cMw

LeCHOKE with absolutely ZERO IMPACT. The only thing he "led" was taking his team down in flames in the worst beatdown in Finals history.

Almost as bad as his '16 Finals...


Again, Iguadala, the well-known Jester Dominator, was injured in game's six and seven.

So, let's examine your stats more fully shall we?

Game three of the '16 Finals:

LePuke shot an overall 14-26, with 1 trey. When Iggy was on him... 9-20 with zero three-pointers. I'll cover this "clutch" LeChoke more in a few, but in the 4th quarter of a blowout, Shrinkage went 0-1 against Iggy, and after Iggy exited, again in a blowout loss, the Padder went an unnecessary 4-5.

Game four of the '16 Finals:

LeTiny shot an overall 11-21. And looking at his 4th quarter stats, you would think he really stepped up in a relatively close game. Of course, the Jester fans like yourself don't even watch 4th quarters of his games, because, as you all know, he will puke all over the floor in the most critical moments. A career CHOKER. In any case, LePuke had shot an overall 8-18 against Iggy, and in the 4th quarter, he had gone his usual 2-6 shit-like performance. Down by 9, with less than a minute to go, and and with the Cavs desperately needing THREE's, the Warriors conceded the layup...and guess what, your boy LeCrap took them on three straight possessions. And essentially trading layups for Chokurry FTs...in a loss. He finished 11-21, but was actually 8-18 when until he was given three straight hoops. And again, 2-6 in the 4th until the Warriors laughingly handed him those hoops. The ultimate stats-padder!

Game five of the '16 Finals. If we remove those three "gifts" from game four, the Jester had gone a string of 12 straight games (including the '15 Finals and the two regular season H2H's in '16) of shooting less than 50% against Iggy. In game five he FINALLY broke thru....barely. He shot 16-30 overall. However, with the game still in doubt in the 4th quarter, LeClank shot his usual 2-7. His teammates of course carried the Cavs in that quarter, and Tiny was able to sneak off the court at about the five minute mark.

Game six of the '16 Finals. Iggy injured his back early on, and was a crippled shell the rest of the series. Shrinkage took full advantage, going 16-27, and then 6-9 from the floor in the 4th. Only his second 50%+ 4th quarter shooting performance in his 15 straight H2H's with Iggy since game one of the '15 Finals. And the first occurred in that game one of the '15 Finals. HOWEVER, in the OT in game one of the Finals, LeChoke went 1-4. So, if you include his pathetic OT effort, the Jester would only put up ONE 4th quarter, in 15 straight games, of at least 50% shooting.

Game seven of the '16 Finals. You put up this exaggeration about LeChoke putting up 11 straight points. Let's examine that, shall we? In that small span, the Jester shot 3-4 from the floor. From the last 4:14 of the game, LePuke went a trembling 0-4. So, in a span of about seven minutes, LeFoldo went 3-4, and the rest of the ENTIRE GAME...in his 40 other minutes... he shot 6-20! Including the usual 0-4 in the last four minutes of the game.

Continued...

[Papaya Petee]

AJ is on an absolute tear in this thread. Good god :rockon:

[aj1987]

STATS-PADDING Shrinkage at his STATS-PADDING best in the '14 Finals...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y02r-Dz5cMw

LeCHOKE with absolutely ZERO IMPACT. The only thing he "led" was taking his team down in flames in the worst beatdown in Finals history.

Almost as bad as his '16 Finals...
Ilt Chokerlain facts from the '69 Finals:

1. 8th in PPG from both teams

2. 4th in PPG on West's team

3. 2nd WORST FT% from both teams

4. WORST FT% from both team (players who took over 2 FT's a game)

5. Only player in history to lose a ring with two All-Stars, 2 All-NBA, 1 All-Def, and a player averaging 39/5/8

6. 8.8 PPG drop from RS to the Finals

7. 8.3% drop in FG% from RS to the Finals

8. 7.1% drop in FT% from RS to the Finals

9. Stats 'wilted' even though he saw a 2 minute increase in playing time from the RS to the Finals

Again, these are all FACTS, Lozerus. None of them are opinions.

The mental midget, Ilt Chokerlain, was hilariously bad in the postseason. No wonder he's considered to be the GOAT choker and statpadder.

"Greatest low-post scorer" ....

Dude would be lucky to average over 15, if he played in the modern era and not that garbage ass joke era.

.511 FT% shooter in the regular season
.465 in the playoffs
.375 in the finals


Chamberlains ppg in regular season: 30.1
Chamberlains ppg in playoffs: 22.5
Chamberlain's ppg in the Finals: 18

Default NBA choking rating

Advanced Formula: Losses with HCA + playoff ppg drop + finals ppg drop + playoff rpg drop + finals rpg drop + playoff apg drop + finals apg drop + playoff fg% drop + finals fg% drop + playoff ft% drop + finals ft% drop - rings

Wilt Chamberlain: 5 + (30.1-22.5) + (30.1-18.6) + (22.9-24.9) + (22.9-24.6) + (4.4-4.2) + (4.4-3.8) + (54.0-52.2) + (54.0-55.9) + (51.1-46.5) + (51.1-37.5) - 2 = 37.3

Ilt's scoring drop off from the RS to the PO's:

'60 - -4.4
'61 - -1.4
'62 - -15.4
'63 - Missed the PO's despite averaging 44.8/24.3/3.4 on 52.8%
'64 - -2.2
'65 - -5.4
'66 - -5.5
'67 - -2.4
'68 - -0.6
'69 - -6.6
'70 - -5.2 (Injured his knee, so not really gonna count this year)
'71 - -2.4
'72 - -0.1
'73 - -2.8

Those numbers would translate to ~15 PPG in the '90's, BTW. Playing in a weak ass era definitely helped boost his stats.


Ilt's FG% from the RS to the PO's:

1960 - +3.5
1961 - -4.0
1962 - -3.9
1964 - +1.8
1965 - +2.0
1966 - -3.1
1967 - -10.4
1968 - -6.1
1979 - -3.8
1970 - -1.9
1971 - -9.0
1972 - -8.6
1973 - -17.5

Since you're clinically retarded and admittedly do not even watch the games:

Games 3-5, LeBron put up 33/13/7/2/3 on 53%. He shot 54%, 52%, and 53% during that stretch. Again, those are from games 3-5. Not even including G6, in which Iggy played 30 minutes and LeBron put up 41/16/7/3/3 on 61% TS or G7 in which Iggy played 40 minutes and LeBron put up 27/11/11/2/3.

If we include those games, LeBron averaged 33/12/9/2/3 on 52% after playing terribly in the first two games.

Game 7 - LeBron scored 11 of the Cavs' 18 points in the 4th Q. LeBron scored in one quarter nearly what Wilt averages for his CAREER in the Finals. After GSW went up 4, LeBron scored 6 straight points to keep the Cavs in the game. Scored 8 straight points at one point. Singlehandedly kept the Cavs in the game.

The four minute stretch? Neither team scored a SINGLE point until Kyrie made that incredible 3. LeBron also had the block and the game and title sealing FT in the end.

#2 Kyrie being more clutch than LeBron:

The Cavs were struggling and LeBron scored 11 points in the 4th Q. 8 straight points at one point and scored 6 straight after GSW were up 4 and with all the momentum. Dude absolutely killed their momentum and gave the Cavs a 2pt lead. He also has the game saving block on Iggy.

Irving in the 4th Q's of the Finals:

https://s22.postimg.org/wjpp7uq8x/Screen_Shot_2016_09_06_at_11_31_25_PM.png

LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals:

https://s10.postimg.io/ckzotdxft/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_53_42_AM.png

LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 3 games):

https://s10.postimg.io/pdnstb91l/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_53_56_AM.png

LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 2 games):

https://s10.postimg.io/wjfjvri4p/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_55_15_AM.png

Kyrie in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 2 games):

https://s10.postimg.io/m83733qfd/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_54_46_AM.png

Now go back to stanning the choking roided mental midget, Lozerus.

LeBron was purposefully slowing down the pace. You don't win against the Warriors (with a garbage ass team no less) playing run and gun ball. They're gonna out shoot you and destroy you. The Cavs would've lost in 4 straight blowouts if they played uptempo basketball.

He couldn't hand over the playmaking duties to others nor was he able to let others make decisions, because they're low IQ players. Shump and JR were terrible and can't create for others. Delly had a hard time bringing the ball up court. Actually, Shump is a below average playmaker, but the other two are worse than garbage.

The game in which Mozgov put up 28 points, the Cavs lost by 21 points. LeBron struggled shooting the ball, but he did have 20/12/8. 12 rebounds and 8 assists (oh wait, rebounds and assists only matter when it's Bird). Delly went 3-14, JR 2-12, Shump 2-9, JJ 0-3, etc.. A combined 18% FG%. Literally no one could hit a shot. To top it off, the Warriors went small and Moz couldn't guard anyone on the court. Bogut was benched and Green was playing at the C.

You're blaming LeBron for Moz not getting more involved in game 5 after the 28 point game, when in fact, the COACH played him 9 minutes. He played over 30 minutes in game 6 and LeBron got him involved. Dude put up 17/12/4.

For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.

[LAZERUSS]

Continuing...




Keep in mind that Iguadala was still a shell in that game seven, as well. Furthermore, the two teams combined to shoot .396 in that game seven...Shrinkage? .375. The two teams combined to shoot an eFG% of .458. LeChoke? .396. The two teams combined to shoot a TS% of .501. LeFlop? .475.

So, in his 4th quarters, LeFlop shot an overall 22-44 (.500). Include his treys, and it was .534. BUT, when Iggy was on the floor in those 4th quarters, it dropped to 18-39, or a .462 FG%. And then, remove those three "gift" layups at the end of game four, and he shot 15-36 against Iggy...or .417. Include his treys against Iggy, and his eFG% was still only .444. Finally, remove LeShit's game six 4th quarter, when Iggy was a cripple...and he would have shot 9-27 against Iggy (including his usual game seven blanks)...or a .333 FG%, and a .370 eFG%!

Iggy...the Jester Stopper.


Oh, the Cavs and Warriors played twice in the 15-16 regular season, as well.

Game 1: A bad 10-26 for LeClank. With Iggy on him... 7-22 (with 0 treys.)
4th quarter? His usual... 2-8.

Game 2: A 132-98 blowout loss that wasn't as close as the final score indicated. Shrinkage went a no-impact 7-16 and a DNP in the 4th.

Let's recap the Jester's '15 Finals, as well. By now everyone knows that he put up one of the all-time WORST shooting performances in NBA Finals history. Not only did he shoot a horrific .398, he did so on an unfathomable 32 FGAs per game. All while the Warriors SINGLED him. And as pathetic as that .398 FG% was, when he was defended by The Jester Stopper... Iguadala...he shot .351! No wonder Iggy, a role player coming off the bench, easily won the FMVP.

I won't break down LePuke's numbers against Iggy in that series. Everyone knows it was a DRAMATIC difference. But, instead I will just post LeClanks game numbers...before getting to his 4th quarters.

Game one: 18-38
Game two: 11-35
Game three: 14-34
Game four: 7-22 (BTW, this was essentially the series.)
Game five: 15-34
Game six: 13-33 (what a clinching performance)

Ok, we can all see that a blind man would have shot as well.

BUT, how about the "clutch" LeChoke. You know...the 4th quarter LeFoldo.

Game 1: Actually shot pretty well. 5-9. Unfortunately for the LeBrick...the game went into OT. Where he shot 0-4 with a couple of critical turnovers. For the entire 4th quarter and OT... 5-13.

Game 2: This is a "peak" LeChoke at his "clutch" best. Went 2-8 in the 4th quarter, but somehow his teammates kept the Cavs into the game, and it went into OT. Where Shrinkage then went his usual 0-4. A combined 2-12 from the 4th quarter thru OT...in a WIN!

Game 3: Somehow LeCrap's teammates were able to win this game despite LeCoward's 4th quarter shooting of 2-7.

Game 4: The Jester with another LeChoke's "peak" performance. In the biggest game of the entire series, Shrinkage went a wimpy 7-22. And he didn't even try in the 4th quarter, going a feeble 0-2.

Game 5: Probably LePuke's best game of any in which he faced a healthy Iggy. Shot 6-13 in the 4th, on with 3 treys. But all in a 13 point loss.

Game 6: The clincher. 13-33 overall, and 5-12 in the futile 4th.

For the '15 Finals, LePuke shot an overall 21-59 in his 4th quarters and OT's, for a .356 FG%. Even with his treys, his overall eFG% was only .415. All accomplished by being SINGLED.


THAT was the "clutch" Court Jester. The man known as Shrinkage lived up (or down) to his name.

Ultimately, LeCHOKE had TEAMMATES hit the most important shots in TWO of his title runs, while Chamberlain had TEAMMATES commit two turnovers that COST him TWO rings.

Shrinkage was TWO teammate shots from being "1-7", while Chamberlain was TWO teammate turnovers away from "4-6."

[aj1987]

STATS-PADDING Shrinkage at his STATS-PADDING best in the '14 Finals...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y02r-Dz5cMw

LeCHOKE with absolutely ZERO IMPACT. The only thing he "led" was taking his team down in flames in the worst beatdown in Finals history.

Almost as bad as his '16 Finals...
Ilt Chokerlain facts from the '69 Finals:

1. 8th in PPG from both teams

2. 4th in PPG on West's team

3. 2nd WORST FT% from both teams

4. WORST FT% from both team (players who took over 2 FT's a game)

5. Only player in history to lose a ring with two All-Stars, 2 All-NBA, 1 All-Def, and a player averaging 39/5/8

6. 8.8 PPG drop from RS to the Finals

7. 8.3% drop in FG% from RS to the Finals

8. 7.1% drop in FT% from RS to the Finals

9. Stats 'wilted' even though he saw a 2 minute increase in playing time from the RS to the Finals

Again, these are all FACTS, Lozerus. None of them are opinions.

The mental midget, Ilt Chokerlain, was hilariously bad in the postseason. No wonder he's considered to be the GOAT choker and statpadder.

"Greatest low-post scorer" ....

Dude would be lucky to average over 15, if he played in the modern era and not that garbage ass joke era.


1968 East Finals Games 6 & 7: 14-38 FT's
1969 Finals Game 7: 4-13 FT's
1970 Finals Game 7: 1-11 FT's

.511 FT% shooter in the regular season
.465 in the playoffs
.375 in the finals


Chamberlains ppg in regular season: 30.1
Chamberlains ppg in playoffs: 22.5
Chamberlain's ppg in the Finals: 18

Default NBA choking rating

Advanced Formula: Losses with HCA + playoff ppg drop + finals ppg drop + playoff rpg drop + finals rpg drop + playoff apg drop + finals apg drop + playoff fg% drop + finals fg% drop + playoff ft% drop + finals ft% drop - rings

Wilt Chamberlain: 5 + (30.1-22.5) + (30.1-18.6) + (22.9-24.9) + (22.9-24.6) + (4.4-4.2) + (4.4-3.8) + (54.0-52.2) + (54.0-55.9) + (51.1-46.5) + (51.1-37.5) - 2 = 37.3

Ilt's scoring drop off from the RS to the PO's:

'60 - -4.4
'61 - -1.4
'62 - -15.4
'63 - Missed the PO's despite averaging 44.8/24.3/3.4 on 52.8%
'64 - -2.2
'65 - -5.4
'66 - -5.5
'67 - -2.4
'68 - -0.6
'69 - -6.6
'70 - -5.2 (Injured his knee, so not really gonna count this year)
'71 - -2.4
'72 - -0.1
'73 - -2.8

Those numbers would translate to ~15 PPG in the '90's, BTW. Playing in a weak ass era definitely helped boost his stats.


Ilt's FG% from the RS to the PO's:

1960 - +3.5
1961 - -4.0
1962 - -3.9
1964 - +1.8
1965 - +2.0
1966 - -3.1
1967 - -10.4
1968 - -6.1
1979 - -3.8
1970 - -1.9
1971 - -9.0
1972 - -8.6
1973 - -17.5

Since you're clinically retarded and admittedly do not even watch the games:

Games 3-5, LeBron put up 33/13/7/2/3 on 53%. He shot 54%, 52%, and 53% during that stretch. Again, those are from games 3-5. Not even including G6, in which Iggy played 30 minutes and LeBron put up 41/16/7/3/3 on 61% TS or G7 in which Iggy played 40 minutes and LeBron put up 27/11/11/2/3.

If we include those games, LeBron averaged 33/12/9/2/3 on 52% after playing terribly in the first two games.

Game 7 - LeBron scored 11 of the Cavs' 18 points in the 4th Q. LeBron scored in one quarter nearly what Wilt averages for his CAREER in the Finals. After GSW went up 4, LeBron scored 6 straight points to keep the Cavs in the game. Scored 8 straight points at one point. Singlehandedly kept the Cavs in the game.

The four minute stretch? Neither team scored a SINGLE point until Kyrie made that incredible 3. LeBron also had the block and the game and title sealing FT in the end.

#2 Kyrie being more clutch than LeBron:

The Cavs were struggling and LeBron scored 11 points in the 4th Q. 8 straight points at one point and scored 6 straight after GSW were up 4 and with all the momentum. Dude absolutely killed their momentum and gave the Cavs a 2pt lead. He also has the game saving block on Iggy.

Irving in the 4th Q's of the Finals:

https://s22.postimg.org/wjpp7uq8x/Screen_Shot_2016_09_06_at_11_31_25_PM.png

LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals:

https://s10.postimg.io/ckzotdxft/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_53_42_AM.png

LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 3 games):

https://s10.postimg.io/pdnstb91l/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_53_56_AM.png

LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 2 games):

https://s10.postimg.io/wjfjvri4p/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_55_15_AM.png

Kyrie in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 2 games):

https://s10.postimg.io/m83733qfd/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_54_46_AM.png

Now go back to stanning the choking roided mental midget, Lozerus.

LeBron was purposefully slowing down the pace. You don't win against the Warriors (with a garbage ass team no less) playing run and gun ball. They're gonna out shoot you and destroy you. The Cavs would've lost in 4 straight blowouts if they played uptempo basketball.

He couldn't hand over the playmaking duties to others nor was he able to let others make decisions, because they're low IQ players. Shump and JR were terrible and can't create for others. Delly had a hard time bringing the ball up court. Actually, Shump is a below average playmaker, but the other two are worse than garbage.

The game in which Mozgov put up 28 points, the Cavs lost by 21 points. LeBron struggled shooting the ball, but he did have 20/12/8. 12 rebounds and 8 assists (oh wait, rebounds and assists only matter when it's Bird). Delly went 3-14, JR 2-12, Shump 2-9, JJ 0-3, etc.. A combined 18% FG%. Literally no one could hit a shot. To top it off, the Warriors went small and Moz couldn't guard anyone on the court. Bogut was benched and Green was playing at the C.

You're blaming LeBron for Moz not getting more involved in game 5 after the 28 point game, when in fact, the COACH played him 9 minutes. He played over 30 minutes in game 6 and LeBron got him involved. Dude put up 17/12/4.

For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.

[LAZERUSS]

Shrinkage handing the FMVP to a ROLE PLAYER coming off the BENCH, and who absolutely SHUT his pathetic POS ass down.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[aj1987]

Shrinkage handing the FMVP to a ROLE PLAYER coming off the BENCH, and who absolutely SHUT his pathetic POS ass down.

:roll: :roll: :roll:
Meltdown confirmed!

1968 East Finals Games 6 & 7: 14-38 FT's
1969 Finals Game 7: 4-13 FT's
1970 Finals Game 7: 1-11 FT's

.511 FT% shooter in the regular season
.465 in the playoffs
.375 in the finals


Chokerlain's ppg in regular season: 30.1
Chokerlain's ppg in playoffs: 22.5
Chokerlain's ppg in the Finals: 18


Pathetic.

[LAZERUSS]

LeBron was purposefully slowing down the pace. You don't win against the Warriors (with a garbage ass team no less) playing run and gun ball. They're gonna out shoot you and destroy you. The Cavs would've lost in 4 straight blowouts if they played uptempo basketball.

He couldn't hand over the playmaking duties to others nor was he able to let others make decisions, because they're low IQ players. Shump and JR were terrible and can't create for others. Delly had a hard time bringing the ball up court. Actually, Shump is a below average playmaker, but the other two are worse than garbage.

The game in which Mozgov put up 28 points, the Cavs lost by 21 points. LeBron struggled shooting the ball, but he did have 20/12/8. 12 rebounds and 8 assists (oh wait, rebounds and assists only matter when it's Bird). Delly went 3-14, JR 2-12, Shump 2-9, JJ 0-3, etc.. A combined 18% FG%. Literally no one could hit a shot. To top it off, the Warriors went small and Moz couldn't guard anyone on the court. Bogut was benched and Green was playing at the C.

You're blaming LeBron for Moz not getting more involved in game 5 after the 28 point game, when in fact, the COACH played him 9 minutes. He played over 30 minutes in game 6 and LeBron got him involved. Dude put up 17/12/4.

For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

SINGLE-COVERED and shot a HORRIFIC .398 from the floor, and only .351 against a ROLE PLAYER coming off the BENCH.

Oh, and in his 4th quarters and OT...

21-59... .356.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[aj1987]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

SINGLE-COVERED and shot a HORRIFIC .398 from the floor, and only .351 against a ROLE PLAYER coming off the BENCH.

Oh, and in his 4th quarters and OT...

21-59... .356.

:roll: :roll: :roll:
The meltdown continues. Keep crying, little girl.

1968 East Finals Games 6 & 7: 14-38 FT's
1969 Finals Game 7: 4-13 FT's
1970 Finals Game 7: 1-11 FT's

.511 FT% shooter in the regular season
.465 in the playoffs
.375 in the finals


Chokerlain's ppg in regular season: 30.1
Chokerlain's ppg in playoffs: 22.5
Chokerlain's ppg in the Finals: 18

[LAZERUSS]

The meltdown continues. Keep crying, little girl.

1968 East Finals Games 6 & 7: 14-38 FT's
1969 Finals Game 7: 4-13 FT's
1970 Finals Game 7: 1-11 FT's

.511 FT% shooter in the regular season
.465 in the playoffs
.375 in the finals


Chokerlain's ppg in regular season: 30.1
Chokerlain's ppg in playoffs: 22.5
Chokerlain's ppg in the Finals: 18

Wilt in '68:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9328006&postcount=13


Club Rated 'Most Courageous' By Hannum as Injuries Mount

PHILADELPHIA (AP) - The Philadelphia 76ers could be billed as the best touring troupe In basketball. All they need is a doctor to complete the cast.

Going into the fourth game Sunday of their National Basketball Association playoff series with the Boston Celtics, the 76ers are hurting from head to toe.

So what's new? Injuries have plagued the defending NBA champions since the opening of the season.

"Alex Hannum says this is the most courageous team he's ever coached," says Harvey Pollack, the 76ers' statistician. "The locker room looks like a hospital ward every time I walk in."

Pollack ticked off some of the cases, which read like a medical diary:

-Wilt Chamberlain (partial tear of the calf muscle in his right leg, a strain in his right thigh and an injured right toe):

-Wally Jones (injured knee cartilage):

-Luke Jackson (pulled hamstring muscle):

-Hal Greer (bursitus in his right knee):

-And, Billy Cunningham (broken right wrist).

"That's not mentioning (rookie) Jim Reid who had a knee operation after injuring it the first game of the season," said Pollack, "and Larry Costello," the veteran guard who tore an ankle tendon after one-third of the season was gone.

The most recent injury was to Chamberlain in Friday night's Eastern Division playoff contest with the Celtics. The dipper was given whirlpool treatments for the calf muscle tear, but Pollack wasn't sure how he'd respond.

The 76ers have nine men in uniform for the best-of-seven playoffs, which they lead, two games to one. But whether they'll have anybody left for the finals against the Western Division winner is anybody's guess.

The team's troubles multiplied in the Eastern Division semifinals against the New York Knickerbockers. Cunningham broke his wrist, knocking him out for the season, Jones and Jackson suffered their injuries and Chamberlain aggravated his perennial toe injury.

And when Boston thumped the 76ers in the opening game of their playoffs here last Friday, some predicted a quick knockout of the injury-riddled champs.

But Philadelphia whacked Boston two straight, including Thursday where an injury actually helped the 76ers cause, points out Pollack.

How so?

"Well, Chamberlain was hurt and he couldn't turn around to score-so he kept feeding Greer, and he scored 31," explained the statistician.

Played every minute of that seven game series...and all he could do was hang a 22-25-7 series.

How about LeFLOP?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

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Carried off the court with MENSTRUAL CRAMPS...


Chamberlain's game seven of the '69 Finals? 18-27-10, on a game high .875 FG%, and a game high .656 TS%.

West had a TS% of .569 in that same game, Baylor was at a .455 TS%, and Wilt's opposing center, Russell... a .342 TS%.

Remove Wilt and Russell's FG%'s from that game, and Russell's teammates outshot Wilt's from the floor by a .477 to .360 margin... in a two point win, and in which Chamberlain was left on the bench by his incompetent coach.


Game seven of the '70 Finals. Chamberlain shot 5-10 from the field in the first half, while his teammates collectively shot .333. BTW, he went 1-8 from the line in the first half...and his team was down by 27 points. Thanks to Frazier just DESTROYING WEST in that game.

[aj1987]

Ilt Chokerlain facts from the '69 Finals:

1. 8th in PPG from both teams

2. 4th in PPG on West's team

3. 2nd WORST FT% from both teams

4. WORST FT% from both team (players who took over 2 FT's a game)

5. Only player in history to lose a ring with two All-Stars, 2 All-NBA, 1 All-Def, and a player averaging 39/5/8

6. 8.8 PPG drop from RS to the Finals

7. 8.3% drop in FG% from RS to the Finals

8. 7.1% drop in FT% from RS to the Finals

9. Stats 'wilted' even though he saw a 2 minute increase in playing time from the RS to the Finals

Again, these are all FACTS, Lozerus. None of them are opinions.

The mental midget, Ilt Chokerlain, was hilariously bad in the postseason. No wonder he's considered to be the GOAT choker and statpadder.

"Greatest low-post scorer" ....

Dude would be lucky to average over 15, if he played in the modern era and not that garbage ass joke era.


1968 East Finals Games 6 & 7: 14-38 FT's
1969 Finals Game 7: 4-13 FT's
1970 Finals Game 7: 1-11 FT's

.511 FT% shooter in the regular season
.465 in the playoffs
.375 in the finals


Chamberlains ppg in regular season: 30.1
Chamberlains ppg in playoffs: 22.5
Chamberlain's ppg in the Finals: 18

Default NBA choking rating

Advanced Formula: Losses with HCA + playoff ppg drop + finals ppg drop + playoff rpg drop + finals rpg drop + playoff apg drop + finals apg drop + playoff fg% drop + finals fg% drop + playoff ft% drop + finals ft% drop - rings

Wilt Chamberlain: 5 + (30.1-22.5) + (30.1-18.6) + (22.9-24.9) + (22.9-24.6) + (4.4-4.2) + (4.4-3.8) + (54.0-52.2) + (54.0-55.9) + (51.1-46.5) + (51.1-37.5) - 2 = 37.3

Ilt's scoring drop off from the RS to the PO's:

'60 - -4.4
'61 - -1.4
'62 - -15.4
'63 - Missed the PO's despite averaging 44.8/24.3/3.4 on 52.8%
'64 - -2.2
'65 - -5.4
'66 - -5.5
'67 - -2.4
'68 - -0.6
'69 - -6.6
'70 - -5.2 (Injured his knee, so not really gonna count this year)
'71 - -2.4
'72 - -0.1
'73 - -2.8

Those numbers would translate to ~15 PPG in the '90's, BTW. Playing in a weak ass era definitely helped boost his stats.


Ilt's FG% from the RS to the PO's:

1960 - +3.5
1961 - -4.0
1962 - -3.9
1964 - +1.8
1965 - +2.0
1966 - -3.1
1967 - -10.4
1968 - -6.1
1979 - -3.8
1970 - -1.9
1971 - -9.0
1972 - -8.6
1973 - -17.5


Games 3-5, LeBron put up 33/13/7/2/3 on 53%. He shot 54%, 52%, and 53% during that stretch. Again, those are from games 3-5. Not even including G6, in which Iggy played 30 minutes and LeBron put up 41/16/7/3/3 on 61% TS or G7 in which Iggy played 40 minutes and LeBron put up 27/11/11/2/3.

If we include those games, LeBron averaged 33/12/9/2/3 on 52% after playing terribly in the first two games.

Game 7 - LeBron scored 11 of the Cavs' 18 points in the 4th Q. LeBron scored in one quarter nearly what Wilt averages for his CAREER in the Finals. After GSW went up 4, LeBron scored 6 straight points to keep the Cavs in the game. Scored 8 straight points at one point. Singlehandedly kept the Cavs in the game.

The four minute stretch? Neither team scored a SINGLE point until Kyrie made that incredible 3. LeBron also had the block and the game and title sealing FT in the end.

#2 Kyrie being more clutch than LeBron:

The Cavs were struggling and LeBron scored 11 points in the 4th Q. 8 straight points at one point and scored 6 straight after GSW were up 4 and with all the momentum. Dude absolutely killed their momentum and gave the Cavs a 2pt lead. He also has the game saving block on Iggy.

Irving in the 4th Q's of the Finals:

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LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals:

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LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 3 games):

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LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 2 games):

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Kyrie in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 2 games):

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Now go back to stanning the choking roided mental midget, Lozerus.

LeBron was purposefully slowing down the pace. You don't win against the Warriors (with a garbage ass team no less) playing run and gun ball. They're gonna out shoot you and destroy you. The Cavs would've lost in 4 straight blowouts if they played uptempo basketball.

He couldn't hand over the playmaking duties to others nor was he able to let others make decisions, because they're low IQ players. Shump and JR were terrible and can't create for others. Delly had a hard time bringing the ball up court. Actually, Shump is a below average playmaker, but the other two are worse than garbage.

The game in which Mozgov put up 28 points, the Cavs lost by 21 points. LeBron struggled shooting the ball, but he did have 20/12/8. 12 rebounds and 8 assists (oh wait, rebounds and assists only matter when it's Bird). Delly went 3-14, JR 2-12, Shump 2-9, JJ 0-3, etc.. A combined 18% FG%. Literally no one could hit a shot. To top it off, the Warriors went small and Moz couldn't guard anyone on the court. Bogut was benched and Green was playing at the C.

You're blaming LeBron for Moz not getting more involved in game 5 after the 28 point game, when in fact, the COACH played him 9 minutes. He played over 30 minutes in game 6 and LeBron got him involved. Dude put up 17/12/4.

For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.
Excellent post, little one. :applause:

[LAZERUSS]

Since you're clinically retarded and admittedly do not even watch the games:

Games 3-5, LeBron put up 33/13/7/2/3 on 53%. He shot 54%, 52%, and 53% during that stretch. Again, those are from games 3-5. Not even including G6, in which Iggy played 30 minutes and LeBron put up 41/16/7/3/3 on 61% TS or G7 in which Iggy played 40 minutes and LeBron put up 27/11/11/2/3.

If we include those games, LeBron averaged 33/12/9/2/3 on 52% after playing terribly in the first two games.

Game 7 - LeBron scored 11 of the Cavs' 18 points in the 4th Q. LeBron scored in one quarter nearly what Wilt averages for his CAREER in the Finals. After GSW went up 4, LeBron scored 6 straight points to keep the Cavs in the game. Scored 8 straight points at one point. Singlehandedly kept the Cavs in the game.

The four minute stretch? Neither team scored a SINGLE point until Kyrie made that incredible 3. LeBron also had the block and the game and title sealing FT in the end.

#2 Kyrie being more clutch than LeBron:

The Cavs were struggling and LeBron scored 11 points in the 4th Q. 8 straight points at one point and scored 6 straight after GSW were up 4 and with all the momentum. Dude absolutely killed their momentum and gave the Cavs a 2pt lead. He also has the game saving block on Iggy.

Irving in the 4th Q's of the Finals:



LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals:



LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 3 games):



LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 2 games):



Kyrie in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 2 games):



Now go back to stanning the choking roided mental midget, Lozerus.

LeBron was purposefully slowing down the pace. You don't win against the Warriors (with a garbage ass team no less) playing run and gun ball. They're gonna out shoot you and destroy you. The Cavs would've lost in 4 straight blowouts if they played uptempo basketball.

He couldn't hand over the playmaking duties to others nor was he able to let others make decisions, because they're low IQ players. Shump and JR were terrible and can't create for others. Delly had a hard time bringing the ball up court. Actually, Shump is a below average playmaker, but the other two are worse than garbage.

The game in which Mozgov put up 28 points, the Cavs lost by 21 points. LeBron struggled shooting the ball, but he did have 20/12/8. 12 rebounds and 8 assists (oh wait, rebounds and assists only matter when it's Bird). Delly went 3-14, JR 2-12, Shump 2-9, JJ 0-3, etc.. A combined 18% FG%. Literally no one could hit a shot. To top it off, the Warriors went small and Moz couldn't guard anyone on the court. Bogut was benched and Green was playing at the C.

You're blaming LeBron for Moz not getting more involved in game 5 after the 28 point game, when in fact, the COACH played him 9 minutes. He played over 30 minutes in game 6 and LeBron got him involved. Dude put up 17/12/4.

For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.
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Again, Iguadala, the well-known Jester Dominator, was injured in game's six and seven.

So, let's examine your stats more fully shall we?

Game three of the '16 Finals:

LePuke shot an overall 14-26, with 1 trey. When Iggy was on him... 9-20 with zero three-pointers. I'll cover this "clutch" LeChoke more in a few, but in the 4th quarter of a blowout, Shrinkage went 0-1 against Iggy, and after Iggy exited, again in a blowout loss, the Padder went an unnecessary 4-5.

Game four of the '16 Finals:

LeTiny shot an overall 11-21. And looking at his 4th quarter stats, you would think he really stepped up in a relatively close game. Of course, the Jester fans like yourself don't even watch 4th quarters of his games, because, as you all know, he will puke all over the floor in the most critical moments. A career CHOKER. In any case, LePuke had shot an overall 8-18 against Iggy, and in the 4th quarter, he had gone his usual 2-6 shit-like performance. Down by 9, with less than a minute to go, and and with the Cavs desperately needing THREE's, the Warriors conceded the layup...and guess what, your boy LeCrap took them on three straight possessions. And essentially trading layups for Chokurry FTs...in a loss. He finished 11-21, but was actually 8-18 when until he was given three straight hoops. And again, 2-6 in the 4th until the Warriors laughingly handed him those hoops. The ultimate stats-padder!

Game five of the '16 Finals. If we remove those three "gifts" from game four, the Jester had gone a string of 12 straight games (including the '15 Finals and the two regular season H2H's in '16) of shooting less than 50% against Iggy. In game five he FINALLY broke thru....barely. He shot 16-30 overall. However, with the game still in doubt in the 4th quarter, LeClank shot his usual 2-7. His teammates of course carried the Cavs in that quarter, and Tiny was able to sneak off the court at about the five minute mark.

Game six of the '16 Finals. Iggy injured his back early on, and was a crippled shell the rest of the series. Shrinkage took full advantage, going 16-27, and then 6-9 from the floor in the 4th. Only his second 50%+ 4th quarter shooting performance in his 15 straight H2H's with Iggy since game one of the '15 Finals. And the first occurred in that game one of the '15 Finals. HOWEVER, in the OT in game one of the Finals, LeChoke went 1-4. So, if you include his pathetic OT effort, the Jester would only put up ONE 4th quarter, in 15 straight games, of at least 50% shooting.

Game seven of the '16 Finals. You put up this exaggeration about LeChoke putting up 11 straight points. Let's examine that, shall we? In that small span, the Jester shot 3-4 from the floor. From the last 4:14 of the game, LePuke went a trembling 0-4. So, in a span of about seven minutes, LeFoldo went 3-4, and the rest of the ENTIRE GAME...in his 40 other minutes... he shot 6-20! Including the usual 0-4 in the last four minutes of the game.

Continued...

[LAZERUSS]

Continuing...

Keep in mind that Iguadala was still a shell in that game seven, as well. Furthermore, the two teams combined to shoot .396 in that game seven...Shrinkage? .375. The two teams combined to shoot an eFG% of .458. LeChoke? .396. The two teams combined to shoot a TS% of .501. LeFlop? .475.

So, in his 4th quarters, LeFlop shot an overall 22-44 (.500). Include his treys, and it was .534. BUT, when Iggy was on the floor in those 4th quarters, it dropped to 18-39, or a .462 FG%. And then, remove those three "gift" layups at the end of game four, and he shot 15-36 against Iggy...or .417. Include his treys against Iggy, and his eFG% was still only .444. Finally, remove LeShit's game six 4th quarter, when Iggy was a cripple...and he would have shot 9-27 against Iggy (including his usual game seven blanks)...or a .333 FG%, and a .370 eFG%!

Iggy...the Jester Stopper.


Oh, the Cavs and Warriors played twice in the 15-16 regular season, as well.

Game 1: A bad 10-26 for LeClank. With Iggy on him... 7-22 (with 0 treys.)
4th quarter? His usual... 2-8.

Game 2: A 132-98 blowout loss that wasn't as close as the final score indicated. Shrinkage went a no-impact 7-16 and a DNP in the 4th.

Let's recap the Jester's '15 Finals, as well. By now everyone knows that he put up one of the all-time WORST shooting performances in NBA Finals history. Not only did he shoot a horrific .398, he did so on an unfathomable 32 FGAs per game. All while the Warriors SINGLED him. And as pathetic as that .398 FG% was, when he was defended by The Jester Stopper... Iguadala...he shot .351! No wonder Iggy, a role player coming off the bench, easily won the FMVP.

I won't break down LePuke's numbers against Iggy in that series. Everyone knows it was a DRAMATIC difference. But, instead I will just post LeClanks game numbers...before getting to his 4th quarters.

Game one: 18-38
Game two: 11-35
Game three: 14-34
Game four: 7-22 (BTW, this was essentially the series.)
Game five: 15-34
Game six: 13-33 (what a clinching performance)

Ok, we can all see that a blind man would have shot as well.

BUT, how about the "clutch" LeChoke. You know...the 4th quarter LeFoldo.

Game 1: Actually shot pretty well. 5-9. Unfortunately for the LeBrick...the game went into OT. Where he shot 0-4 with a couple of critical turnovers. For the entire 4th quarter and OT... 5-13.

Game 2: This is a "peak" LeChoke at his "clutch" best. Went 2-8 in the 4th quarter, but somehow his teammates kept the Cavs into the game, and it went into OT. Where Shrinkage then went his usual 0-4. A combined 2-12 from the 4th quarter thru OT...in a WIN!

Game 3: Somehow LeCrap's teammates were able to win this game despite LeCoward's 4th quarter shooting of 2-7.

Game 4: The Jester with another LeChoke's "peak" performance. In the biggest game of the entire series, Shrinkage went a wimpy 7-22. And he didn't even try in the 4th quarter, going a feeble 0-2.

Game 5: Probably LePuke's best game of any in which he faced a healthy Iggy. Shot 6-13 in the 4th, on with 3 treys. But all in a 13 point loss.

Game 6: The clincher. 13-33 overall, and 5-12 in the futile 4th.

For the '15 Finals, LePuke shot an overall 21-59 in his 4th quarters and OT's, for a .356 FG%. Even with his treys, his overall eFG% was only .415. All accomplished by being SINGLED.


THAT was the "clutch" Court Jester. The man known as Shrinkage lived up (or down) to his name.

[aj1987]

Again, Iguadala, the well-known Jester Dominator, was injured in game's six and seven.
Yeah, he dominated LeBron, yet LeBron put up 36/13/9 on 40% in '15 and 30/11/9/3/2 on 49%. Better than any of the mental midgets Finals. Bad comparison though, considering the mental midget was pretty much carried in most of the Finals he played in. The choker couldn't win with West averaging 39/5/8. :oldlol:

LePuke shot an overall 14-26, with 1 trey. When Iggy was on him... 9-20 with zero three-pointers. I'll cover this "clutch" LeChoke more in a few, but in the 4th quarter of a blowout, Shrinkage went 0-1 against Iggy, and after Iggy exited, again in a blowout loss, the Padder went an unnecessary 4-5.
Dude, you stan THE GOAT statpadder and you're complain about others "padding" their stats? You don't even watch the games, you retarded shit. Come back when you actually sit down and watch a game.


Game four of the '16 Finals:

LeTiny shot an overall 11-21. And looking at his 4th quarter stats, you would think he really stepped up in a relatively close game. Of course, the Jester fans like yourself don't even watch 4th quarters of his games, because, as you all know, he will puke all over the floor in the most critical moments. A career CHOKER. In any case, LePuke had shot an overall 8-18 against Iggy, and in the 4th quarter, he had gone his usual 2-6 shit-like performance. Down by 9, with less than a minute to go, and and with the Cavs desperately needing THREE's, the Warriors conceded the layup...and guess what, your boy LeCrap took them on three straight possessions. And essentially trading layups for Chokurry FTs...in a loss. He finished 11-21, but was actually 8-18 when until he was given three straight hoops. And again, 2-6 in the 4th until the Warriors laughingly handed him those hoops. The ultimate stats-padder!
What was he supposed to do? Give up like your roided lover and shit the bed with a like 10 points in Finals games? No wonder you stan a choker who averaged 18 in the Finals.

BTW, since you obviously didn't watch that game, Irving, who is an ELITE 3pt shooter took a couple of 2's as well. Didn't take the 3.


Game five of the '16 Finals. If we remove those three "gifts" from game four, the Jester had gone a string of 12 straight games (including the '15 Finals and the two regular season H2H's in '16) of shooting less than 50% against Iggy. In game five he FINALLY broke thru....barely. He shot 16-30 overall. However, with the game still in doubt in the 4th quarter, LeClank shot his usual 2-7. His teammates of course carried the Cavs in that quarter, and Tiny was able to sneak off the court at about the five minute mark.
The closest the Warriors came was within 7 points early in the Q and Kyrie Irving scored a couple of points and put them away.

Once again, you've just exposed yourself, you retarded shit. Iman was the ONLY other Cavalier (other than LeBron/Irving) to score in the 4th in G5. I know that you like to make shit up, but who were these other "teammates" who carried the Cavs in the 4th? Iman scored 2 points, FYI.

LeBron had 5 points, Irving had 12, and Iman had 2 points for the Cavs in the 4th. LeBron had 41/16/7/3/3 on 61% TS and props to Irving dude had a ridiculous game and one better than ANY Finals game your lover, the mental midget, had. Significantly better, as a matter of fact.


Game six of the '16 Finals. Iggy injured his back early on, and was a crippled shell the rest of the series. Shrinkage took full advantage, going 16-27, and then 6-9 from the floor in the 4th. Only his second 50%+ 4th quarter shooting performance in his 15 straight H2H's with Iggy since game one of the '15 Finals. And the first occurred in that game one of the '15 Finals. HOWEVER, in the OT in game one of the Finals, LeChoke went 1-4. So, if you include his pathetic OT effort, the Jester would only put up ONE 4th quarter, in 15 straight games, of at least 50% shooting.
What's your point? LeBron had a fantastic game and blew out the Warriors.


Game seven of the '16 Finals. You put up this exaggeration about LeChoke putting up 11 straight points. Let's examine that, shall we? In that small span, the Jester shot 3-4 from the floor. From the last 4:14 of the game, LePuke went a trembling 0-4. So, in a span of about seven minutes, LeFoldo went 3-4, and the rest of the ENTIRE GAME...in his 40 other minutes... he shot 6-20! Including the usual 0-4 in the last four minutes of the game.
Since your retarded midget choker loving ass can't read/comprehend:

Game 7 - LeBron scored 11 of the Cavs' 18 points in the 4th Q. LeBron scored in one quarter nearly what Wilt averages for his CAREER in the Finals. After GSW went up 4, LeBron scored 6 straight points to keep the Cavs in the game. Scored 8 straight points at one point. Singlehandedly kept the Cavs in the game.

The four minute stretch? Neither team scored a SINGLE point until Kyrie made that incredible 3. LeBron also had the block and the game and title sealing FT in the end.

[aj1987]

Keep in mind that Iguadala was still a shell in that game seven, as well. Furthermore, the two teams combined to shoot .396 in that game seven...Shrinkage? .375. The two teams combined to shoot an eFG% of .458. LeChoke? .396. The two teams combined to shoot a TS% of .501. LeFlop? .475.
And yet, he was the best player in the game and was THE reason the Cavs won. Without his scoring and defense in the 4th, the Warriors would've blown them the **** out. You just can't get all that from boxscores though. You need to watch the games.

Irving in the 4th Q's of the Finals:

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LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals:

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LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 3 games):

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LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 2 games):

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Kyrie in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 2 games):

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However, we do know for a FACT that your lover was a miserable choker and thanks to SouBeachTalents for pointing that out.

1968 East Finals Games 6 & 7: 14-38 FT's
1969 Finals Game 7: 4-13 FT's
1970 Finals Game 7: 1-11 FT's


So, in his 4th quarters, LeFlop shot an overall 22-44 (.500). Include his treys, and it was .534. BUT, when Iggy was on the floor in those 4th quarters, it dropped to 18-39, or a .462 FG%. And then, remove those three "gift" layups at the end of game four, and he shot 15-36 against Iggy...or .417. Include his treys against Iggy, and his eFG% was still only .444.
Good lord, the cherrypicking... :roll:

Yeah, just remove FG's that LeBron made. Why don't you get rid of a couple of other random ones and get it down to below 40%? ****ing retard.



Let's recap the Jester's '15 Finals, as well. By now everyone knows that he put up one of the all-time WORST shooting performances in NBA Finals history. Not only did he shoot a horrific .398, he did so on an unfathomable 32 FGAs per game. All while the Warriors SINGLED him. And as pathetic as that .398 FG% was, when he was defended by The Jester Stopper... Iguadala...he shot .351! No wonder Iggy, a role player coming off the bench, easily won the FMVP.

I won't break down LePuke's numbers against Iggy in that series. Everyone knows it was a DRAMATIC difference. But, instead I will just post LeClanks game numbers...before getting to his 4th quarters.

Game one: 18-38
Game two: 11-35
Game three: 14-34
Game four: 7-22 (BTW, this was essentially the series.)
Game five: 15-34
Game six: 13-33 (what a clinching performance)

Ok, we can all see that a blind man would have shot as well.

BUT, how about the "clutch" LeChoke. You know...the 4th quarter LeFoldo.

Game 1: Actually shot pretty well. 5-9. Unfortunately for the LeBrick...the game went into OT. Where he shot 0-4 with a couple of critical turnovers. For the entire 4th quarter and OT... 5-13.

Game 2: This is a "peak" LeChoke at his "clutch" best. Went 2-8 in the 4th quarter, but somehow his teammates kept the Cavs into the game, and it went into OT. Where Shrinkage then went his usual 0-4. A combined 2-12 from the 4th quarter thru OT...in a WIN!

Game 3: Somehow LeCrap's teammates were able to win this game despite LeCoward's 4th quarter shooting of 2-7.

Game 4: The Jester with another LeChoke's "peak" performance. In the biggest game of the entire series, Shrinkage went a wimpy 7-22. And he didn't even try in the 4th quarter, going a feeble 0-2.

Game 5: Probably LePuke's best game of any in which he faced a healthy Iggy. Shot 6-13 in the 4th, on with 3 treys. But all in a 13 point loss.

Game 6: The clincher. 13-33 overall, and 5-12 in the futile 4th.

For the '15 Finals, LePuke shot an overall 21-59 in his 4th quarters and OT's, for a .356 FG%. Even with his treys, his overall eFG% was only .415. All accomplished by being SINGLED.


THAT was the "clutch" Court Jester. The man known as Shrinkage lived up (or down) to his name.
LeBron was purposefully slowing down the pace. You don't win against the Warriors (with a garbage ass team no less) playing run and gun ball. They're gonna out shoot you and destroy you. The Cavs would've lost in 4 straight blowouts if they played uptempo basketball.

He couldn't hand over the playmaking duties to others nor was he able to let others make decisions, because they're low IQ players. Shump and JR were terrible and can't create for others. Delly had a hard time bringing the ball up court. Actually, Shump is a below average playmaker, but the other two are worse than garbage.

The game in which Mozgov put up 28 points, the Cavs lost by 21 points. LeBron struggled shooting the ball, but he did have 20/12/8. 12 rebounds and 8 assists (oh wait, rebounds and assists only matter when it's Bird). Delly went 3-14, JR 2-12, Shump 2-9, JJ 0-3, etc.. A combined 18% FG%. Literally no one could hit a shot. To top it off, the Warriors went small and Moz couldn't guard anyone on the court. Bogut was benched and Green was playing at the C.

You're blaming LeBron for Moz not getting more involved in game 5 after the 28 point game, when in fact, the COACH played him 9 minutes. He played over 30 minutes in game 6 and LeBron got him involved. Dude put up 17/12/4.

For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.

.511 FT% shooter in the regular season
.465 in the playoffs
.375 in the finals


Chamberlains ppg in regular season: 30.1
Chamberlains ppg in playoffs: 22.5
Chamberlain's ppg in the Finals: 18

Default NBA choking rating

Advanced Formula: Losses with HCA + playoff ppg drop + finals ppg drop + playoff rpg drop + finals rpg drop + playoff apg drop + finals apg drop + playoff fg% drop + finals fg% drop + playoff ft% drop + finals ft% drop - rings

Wilt Chamberlain: 5 + (30.1-22.5) + (30.1-18.6) + (22.9-24.9) + (22.9-24.6) + (4.4-4.2) + (4.4-3.8) + (54.0-52.2) + (54.0-55.9) + (51.1-46.5) + (51.1-37.5) - 2 = 37.3

Ilt's scoring drop off from the RS to the PO's:

'60 - -4.4
'61 - -1.4
'62 - -15.4
'63 - Missed the PO's despite averaging 44.8/24.3/3.4 on 52.8%
'64 - -2.2
'65 - -5.4
'66 - -5.5
'67 - -2.4
'68 - -0.6
'69 - -6.6
'70 - -5.2 (Injured his knee, so not really gonna count this year)
'71 - -2.4
'72 - -0.1
'73 - -2.8

Those numbers would translate to ~15 PPG in the '90's, BTW. Playing in a weak ass era definitely helped boost his stats.


Ilt's FG% from the RS to the PO's:

1960 - +3.5
1961 - -4.0
1962 - -3.9
1964 - +1.8
1965 - +2.0
1966 - -3.1
1967 - -10.4
1968 - -6.1
1979 - -3.8
1970 - -1.9
1971 - -9.0
1972 - -8.6
1973 - -17.5

On a side note, another thread ruined by the pathetic little mental midget, Ilt Chokerlain, lover.

[LAZERUSS]

Yeah, he dominated LeBron, yet LeBron put up 36/13/9 on 40% in '15 and 30/11/9/3/2 on 49%. Better than any of the mental midgets Finals. Bad comparison though, considering the mental midget was pretty much carried in most of the Finals he played in. The choker couldn't win with West averaging 39/5/8.

Don't take my word for it then...how about this...

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/06/lebr...finals-history

Quote:
[B]Andre Iguodala was the rightful recipient of the Finals MVP and certainly deserved to win it by more than the 7-4 margin he had over LeBron. Why? Despite LeBron

[aj1987]

Are you seriously trying to recreate the other thread here? God, you're pathetic. You got murked in that thread like your lover in the Finals and you still want to cling to those retarded posts?

Oh well.


Don't take my word for it then...how about this...

LeCHOKE LOST that series. Plain-and-simple, and there were no excuses for his shitty play.
RTFP, retard.

LeBron was purposefully slowing down the pace. You don't win against the Warriors (with a garbage ass team no less) playing run and gun ball. They're gonna out shoot you and destroy you. The Cavs would've lost in 4 straight blowouts if they played uptempo basketball.

He couldn't hand over the playmaking duties to others nor was he able to let others make decisions, because they're low IQ players. Shump and JR were terrible and can't create for others. Delly had a hard time bringing the ball up court. Actually, Shump is a below average playmaker, but the other two are worse than garbage.

The game in which Mozgov put up 28 points, the Cavs lost by 21 points. LeBron struggled shooting the ball, but he did have 20/12/8. 12 rebounds and 8 assists (oh wait, rebounds and assists only matter when it's Bird). Delly went 3-14, JR 2-12, Shump 2-9, JJ 0-3, etc.. A combined 18% FG%. Literally no one could hit a shot. To top it off, the Warriors went small and Moz couldn't guard anyone on the court. Bogut was benched and Green was playing at the C.

You're blaming LeBron for Moz not getting more involved in game 5 after the 28 point game, when in fact, the COACH played him 9 minutes. He played over 30 minutes in game 6 and LeBron got him involved. Dude put up 17/12/4.

For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.


LePadder is THE career STATS-PADDER. Take one look at his '14 Finals, and you would think he had been great. Someone who didn't watch the series, like yourself, would say, ...look 28-8-4 on a .680 TS%. Yep, those who WATCHED the games would conclude...STATS-PADDING at it's PEAK. LePadder didn't do ANYTHING until the games were ROUTS. The ONLY think the Jester did was "lead" his team to the worst beatdown in Finals history.
Funny, cause you're the retard who admitted to not watching any games. You're kinda like 3ball, TBH. Both of you are retarded, you do not watch basketball, and you retards are spambots. At least 3ball stans the GOAT. You stan and choking roided mental midget, who couldn't win unless he was carried.


What was he SUPPOSED to do?

He was SUPPOSED to shoot THREE's you idiot.
You do know that he was 1-5 from deep that game, right? Of course you don't.


And the REAL FINALS in the decade of the 60's were the Celtics vs WILT. You know, the Chamberlain who was putting up series of 22-25-7; 22-32-10; 28-30; 29-28; 30-31; 31-27; and 34-26 against Russell's Celtics?

I'll cover the WILT post-seasons later. But, as was proven in the '72 WCF's, Wilt did FAR more in that series, and against a PEAK Kareem...in a series in which Chamberlain averaged 11 ppg...than LeWhiff did in his brick-laying '15 Finals.

Had Wilt had the good fortune to have played in the West in his prime, like the Jester has had playing in the POS East his entire career, and his post-season scoring and efficiency records would likely would be records.
The real Finals were the FINALS, retard. It's in the freaking name. Fact remains that Chokerlain Choked in pretty much EVERY Final game he played in.


1968 East Finals Games 6 & 7: 14-38 FT's
1969 Finals Game 7: 4-13 FT's
1970 Finals Game 7: 1-11 FT's


.511 FT% shooter in the regular season
.465 in the playoffs
.375 in the finals


Chamberlains ppg in regular season: 30.1
Chamberlains ppg in playoffs: 22.5
Chamberlain's ppg in the Finals: 18

Default NBA choking rating

Advanced Formula: Losses with HCA + playoff ppg drop + finals ppg drop + playoff rpg drop + finals rpg drop + playoff apg drop + finals apg drop + playoff fg% drop + finals fg% drop + playoff ft% drop + finals ft% drop - rings

Wilt Chamberlain: 5 + (30.1-22.5) + (30.1-18.6) + (22.9-24.9) + (22.9-24.6) + (4.4-4.2) + (4.4-3.8) + (54.0-52.2) + (54.0-55.9) + (51.1-46.5) + (51.1-37.5) - 2 = 37.3

Ilt's scoring drop off from the RS to the PO's:

'60 - -4.4
'61 - -1.4
'62 - -15.4
'63 - Missed the PO's despite averaging 44.8/24.3/3.4 on 52.8%
'64 - -2.2
'65 - -5.4
'66 - -5.5
'67 - -2.4
'68 - -0.6
'69 - -6.6
'70 - -5.2 (Injured his knee, so not really gonna count this year)
'71 - -2.4
'72 - -0.1
'73 - -2.8

Those numbers would translate to ~15 PPG in the '90's, BTW. Playing in a weak ass era definitely helped boost his stats.


Ilt's FG% from the RS to the PO's:

1960 - +3.5
1961 - -4.0
1962 - -3.9
1964 - +1.8
1965 - +2.0
1966 - -3.1
1967 - -10.4
1968 - -6.1
1979 - -3.8
1970 - -1.9
1971 - -9.0
1972 - -8.6
1973 - -17.5


Trying to deflect the Jester's 2-7 I see. A typical 4th quarter effort in a close game by LeCHOKE.
What did I deflect? LeBron and Irving had better Finals games than your choking lover ever did. Fact.


My POINT??? Obviously you can't comprehend what I posted, but we all saw what LeFLOP did against a HEALTHY Iguadala in his 15 straight games covering the '15 Finals, their two regular season H2H's in '16, and their '16 Finals H2H's. ZILCH. ESPECIALLY in the 4th quarters of close games. LeCHOKE being LeCHOKE!
33/12/9/2/2 on 44% in the '15 and '16 Finals combined.


Iggy's injury was THE biggest reason why the Cavs won the last two games of the Finals.
Yeah, because LeBron didn't murder Iggy in games 3 and 5. FOH, midget. Right now you're just straight up melting. Since we're talking about injuries, Irving and Love were out in '15 and LeBron damn near won. Love was injured this season as well and Irving was dealing with foot injuries. They still won. We aren't talking about bench players, BTW. We're talking about the Cavs' 2nd and 3rd best players.


LeSHIT shot 9-24 in the game. And, of course, 0-4 when it REALLY mattered. But yes, in a span of SEVEN of his 47 minutes, he put up an 11 point run on 3-4 shooting. But yes, let's conveniently ignore his 6-20 blanks the other 40 minutes he played.
Game 7 - LeBron scored 11 of the Cavs' 18 points in the 4th Q. LeBron scored in one quarter nearly what Wilt averages for his CAREER in the Finals. After GSW went up 4, LeBron scored 6 straight points to keep the Cavs in the game. Scored 8 straight points at one point. Singlehandedly kept the Cavs in the game.

The four minute stretch? Neither team scored a SINGLE point until Kyrie made that incredible 3. LeBron also had the block and the game and title sealing FT in the end.



My roided lover was the GOAT statpadder and shit the bed as the stage got bigger. Was a mental midget and the GOAT choker!
Agreed, old fart.

1968 East Finals Games 6 & 7: 14-38 FT's
1969 Finals Game 7: 4-13 FT's
1970 Finals Game 7: 1-11 FT's

.511 FT% shooter in the regular season
.465 in the playoffs
.375 in the finals

Chamberlains ppg in regular season: 30.1
Chamberlains ppg in playoffs: 22.5
Chamberlain's ppg in the Finals: 18

[LAZERUSS]

Good lord, the cherrypicking...

Yeah, just remove FG's that LeBron made. Why don't you get rid of a couple of other random ones and get it down to below 40%? ****ing retard.



CHERRY PICKING is saying that LeShit shot 22-44 in his 4th quarters of the '16 Finals. Remove his THREE GIFTS in the last minute of game three, when the Cavs needed treys, and instead the Padder took uncontested layups (and then Chokurry went 6-6 from the line), and it is down to 19-41. Remove the 4-5 that he shot after game three was decided and Iggy had left...and suddenly he went 15-36. Then, remove his game six of 6-9, when Iguadala was barely able to walk...and it's down to a REALISTIC... 9-27!




What did I deflect? LeBron and Irving had better Finals games than your choking lover ever did. Fact.

You DEFLECTED the OBVIOUS... LeCrap's 2-7 in the critical 4th quarter. Which was pretty much his norm in his '15 and '16 Finals.

And no, neither LePUKE, nor Kyrie, ever had a 45-27 Finals game on a .741 FG%.


33/12/9/2/2 on 44% in the '15 and '16 Finals combined.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Of course, SINGLED almost the entire time. And when defended by a healthy role player off the bench... about 40%.


Yeah, because LeBron didn't murder Iggy in games 3 and 5. FOH, midget. Right now you're just straight up melting. Since we're talking about injuries, Irving and Love were out in '15 and LeBron damn near won. Love was injured this season as well and Irving was dealing with foot injuries. They still won. We aren't talking about bench players, BTW. We're talking about the Cavs' 2nd and 3rd best players.

MURDERED Iggy in game three? He went 9-20 against Iggy in that game. And in the 4th quarter of game five...his normal 2-7.

Love missed one game in the '16 Finals...a 120-90 Cavs WIN. Yes, Kyrie was so injured that he was putting up a game seven of 26 points, on a .478 eFG%, and on a .525 TS%, while the healthy Jester shot a .375 FG%, a .396 TS%, and a .475 TS%.

As for the '15 Finals. Yes, lets forget all about the collective DEFENSE that his TEAMMATES played in that series. You know, holding the juggernaut Warrior offense WAY below their regular season numbers.

And they overcame his HORRIFIC shooting to keep the series at 2-1. Hell, game two, Shrinkage shot...get this.. a combined 2-12 from the floor in the 4th quater and OT...and the Cavs STILL won! Of course, Shrinkage put a critical game four of 7-22 from the field, and 5-10 from the line, in what was essentially the deciding game. GS went on to win the last two games without much from LePuke or his Cavs.


Game 7 - LeBron scored 11 of the Cavs' 18 points in the 4th Q. LeBron scored in one quarter nearly what Wilt averages for his CAREER in the Finals. After GSW went up 4, LeBron scored 6 straight points to keep the Cavs in the game. Scored 8 straight points at one point. Singlehandedly kept the Cavs in the game.

The four minute stretch? Neither team scored a SINGLE point until Kyrie made that incredible 3. LeBron also had the block and the game and title sealing FT in the end.

Shrinkage had a seven minute stretch in which he scored those 11 points. In the last four minutes... and as always...choking down the stretch with... 0-4 from the floor, and saved by a defensive stop from Love, and the game winner from Kyrie.

Oh, and remove that seven minute stretch...and in his 40 other minutes... 6-20! A TYPICAL LeFoldo Finals game.

The bottom line...

The Jester was outplayed by a role player off the bench in the '15 Finals, and was a Kyrie shot away from watching Draymond hoisting the '16 FMVP.

[aj1987]

2-7 in the critical 4th quarter. Which was pretty much his norm in his '15 and '16 Finals.

And no, LePUKE nor Kyrie ever had a 45-27 Finals game on a .741 FG%.
Watch the game, you pathetic inbred retard.

LeBron put up 41/16/7/3/3 and 32/11/6/1/2 in games 5 and 3 against a healthy Warriors team and Iguodala.

The closest the Warriors came was within 7 points early in the Q and Kyrie Irving scored a couple of points and put them away.

Once again, you've just exposed yourself, you retarded shit. Iman was the ONLY other Cavalier (other than LeBron/Irving) to score in the 4th in G5. I know that you like to make shit up, but who were these other "teammates" who carried the Cavs in the 4th? Iman scored 2 points, FYI.

LeBron had 5 points, Irving had 12, and Iman had 2 points for the Cavs in the 4th. LeBron had 41/16/7/3/3 on 61% TS and props to Irving dude had a ridiculous game and one better than ANY Finals game your lover, the mental midget, had. Significantly better, as a matter of fact.


Of course, SINGLED almost the entire time. And when defended by a healthy role player off the bench... about 40%.
We aren't talking about Chokerlain, retard. The choker who player in a vomit inducing era, when janitors and salespeople were starters in the league. Dude player in a hilariously bad era. Would not average over 15 PPG on 40% in the modern era. Even then, he couldn't manage over 18 PPG in the Finals. Heck, he'd probably averaged 3 PPG in the Finals today, playing garbage minutes as a third string C.


MURDERED Iggy in game three? He went 9-20 against Iggy in that game. And in the 4th quarter of game five...his normal 2-7.
Once again, you've just exposed yourself, you retarded shit. Iman was the ONLY other Cavalier (other than LeBron/Irving) to score in the 4th in G5. I know that you like to make shit up, but who were these other "teammates" who carried the Cavs in the 4th? Iman scored 2 points, FYI.

LeBron had 5 points, Irving had 12, and Iman had 2 points for the Cavs in the 4th. LeBron had 41/16/7/3/3 on 61% TS and props to Irving dude had a ridiculous game and one better than ANY Finals game your lover, the mental midget, had. Significantly better, as a matter of fact.


Love missed one game in the '16 Finals...a 120-90 Cavs WIN. Yes, Kyrie was so injured that he was putting up a game seven of 26 points, on a .478 eFG%, and on a .525 TS%, while the healthy Jester shot a .375 FG%, a .396 TS%, and a .475 TS%.
Yeah, Love, the max player and the 3rd best player on the team had a severe concussion and missed a game and was severely limited after coming back. Irving incurred a foot injury. You would know that if you stopped mastrubating to box scores for a minute. If I'm not mistaken, if was the same ankle, which caused him to miss a couple of games just before the PO's.

That being said, despite all this, LeBron won. What the mental midgets excuse? Dude lost with West averaging 38/5/7 and Baylor averaging 18/10/4.


As for the '15 Finals. Yes, lets forget all about the collective DEFENSE that his TEAMMATES played in that series. You know, holding the juggernaut Warrior offense WAY below their regular season numbers.
The Cavs held the Warriors just 4 points below their RS ORtg. Not a staggering number, considering the fact that you face a constant opponent in the Finals and not a bunch of scrub teams.


..
LeBron James finished the 2015 NBA Finals with averages of 35.8 points, 13.3 rebounds, and 8.8 assists per game.

LeBron James is the first player in NBA Finals history to lead both teams in points, assists and rebounds for the entire series.

Without James on the floor, Cleveland

[AirBonner]

Why do wilt stans have to write a novel for every post?

[Asukal]

Beat lebron? Been done so many times already. 3/7 :lol :oldlol:

[Kawhi]

This thread is cringeworthy.

[Gileraracer]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

this guy did the same TWICE to beat duncan and then curry :roll:

is he aware most consider him the one who INVENTED colluding :lol


Darrrrnnn you are absolutely right!!!

[fiddy]

How to destroy in two words? Adam Silver

[34-24 Footwork]

Spurs beat him so bad that he packed up his shit to run back home.

GSW Warriors beat him so bad that Adam Silver had to literally intervene mid-series.

[tpols]

if bran actually said that hes delusional for two reasons ..


A) if KD left to beat somebody it wasnt bron, it was golden state.

and

B) Bron abandoned ship on the cHeat after taking the biggest loss in Finals history to "switch and pick up new coaches and new players" in an effort to beat the spurs... he also did the same thing to beat the Celtics in the first collusion.




the hypocrisy is so thick, i have a feeling bran is just trolling us.

[Uncle Drew]

Spurs beat him so bad that he packed up his shit to run back home.

GSW Warriors beat him so bad that Adam Silver had to literally intervene mid-series.
Die in a fire.

[guy]

He's so full of it :oldlol: There was talk about KD going to the warriors during the season when no one thought they were losing to anybody, including Lebron. And in the past 4 seasons, he's lost twice and barely won the title the other two times. He's not this unbeatable force.

[fiddy]

Die in a fire.
Butthurt AF :roll:

[Wally450]

Spurs beat him so bad that he packed up his shit to run back home.

GSW Warriors beat him so bad that Adam Silver had to literally intervene mid-series.

Meltdown.

3rd greatest player of all time.

[LAZERUSS]

He's so full of it :oldlol: There was talk about KD going to the warriors during the season when no one thought they were losing to anybody, including Lebron. And in the past 4 seasons, he's lost twice and barely won the title the other two times. He's not this unbeatable force.

THIS.

LeCoward was two clutch teammate shots away being 1-7 (in 4th quarters in which he completely shit the bed in the last four minutes of each.) And his 2007 and 2011 Finals are, by far, the worst ever by a top-10 player in their primes.

And had he not had the luxury of playing in the POS East his entire career, he likely would have only been to 2-3 Finals.

[FKAri]

Kyrie is a superstar and has elevated himself as so in the finals. Stay mad.
This guy's basically dray n klay's counterpart :lol
The yin and yang of stans on ISH

[Jasper]

"I know teams switch and pick up new coaches or new players, and their whole goal is kind of they want to beat me," James told cleveland.com. "It's never just about me, but I always hear them saying, 'We gotta beat LeBron.' It's not just me on the court, but I understand that teams get together in this conference and across the league to try to beat me."


The competitive nature of an athlete :rockon:

[aj1987]

THIS.

LeCoward was two clutch teammate shots away being 1-7 (in 4th quarters in which he completely shit the bed in the last four minutes of each.) And his 2007 and 2011 Finals are, by far, the worst ever by a top-10 player in their primes.

And had he not had the luxury of playing in the POS East his entire career, he likely would have only been to 2-3 Finals.
Your lover would've been a ringless choking mental midget, if he wasn't carried to 2 rings. Not to mention he played in a joke era, which no one even takes seriously.

[Da Real Lambo]

Spurs beat him so bad that he packed up his shit to run back home.

GSW Warriors beat him so bad that Adam Silver had to literally intervene mid-series.

this :lol

[Hey Yo]

THIS.

LeCoward was two clutch teammate shots away being 1-7 (in 4th quarters in which he completely shit the bed in the last four minutes of each.) And his 2007 and 2011 Finals are, by far, the worst ever by a top-10 player in their primes.

And had he not had the luxury of playing in the POS East his entire career, he likely would have only been to 2-3 Finals.
Your trolling's hilarious cause it's so bad....:oldlol:

Kyrie made the game winning 3 with 53 seconds left. The clock that game jumped from 53 seconds to ZERO w/o anyone noticing? :oldlol:

22yrs old is suddenly now considered ones prime? :oldlol:

You use speculation as if it's fact. :oldlol:

Thanks for the :oldlol:

[jrjim]

if KD left to beat somebody it wasnt bron, it was golden state.



Come again?

[LAZERUSS]

Your trolling's hilarious cause it's so bad....:oldlol:

Kyrie made the game winning 3 with 53 seconds left. The clock that game jumped from 53 seconds to ZERO w/o anyone noticing? :oldlol:

22yrs old is suddenly now considered ones prime? :oldlol:

You use speculation as if it's fact. :oldlol:

Thanks for the :oldlol:

You are confusing prime with PEAK.

Hell, a 21 year old Lebron had a career high 31.4 ppg.

Shaq was in his PRIME at age 20, and by 22 he was outplaying a peak Hakeem in the Finals.

How about this...a 21 year old Shaq...

39.8 mpg, 29.3 ppg, 13.2 rpg, 2.4 apg, 2.9 bpg, .599 FG%, .554 FT%, and a .605 TS%.

A 27 year old Shaq in his MVP season...

40.0 mpg, 29.7 ppg, 13.6 rpg, 3.8 apg, 3.0 bpg, .574 FG%, .524 FT%, and a .578 TS%.

MAGIC was in his PRIME at age 20. My god, by the Finals he was winning the first of 3 FMVPs (and another at age 22.)

KAJ was ROY, who hung 28.8 ppg and 14.5 rpg, and then who was OVERWHELMING the post-season...as a 22 year old rookie. And I would argue that he PEAKED at ages 23-24.

Wilt destroyed the league as a 23 year old rookie.

You can go right down the list. The vast majority of the truly great players were in their PRIMES almost from day one. Yes, most all had a higher PEAK shortly thereafter.


And yes, Kyrie hit the game-winning shot. It doesn't matter if it occurred in the last second, or minute. Hell, Kevin Love made a HUGE "game-saving" STOP, as well.

[riseagainst]

Lebron also destroyed them in the past NBA finals.

Lebron also destroyed and ripped Curry's heart out in the finals.

[aj1987]

Your trolling's hilarious cause it's so bad....:oldlol:

Kyrie made the game winning 3 with 53 seconds left. The clock that game jumped from 53 seconds to ZERO w/o anyone noticing? :oldlol:

22yrs old is suddenly now considered ones prime? :oldlol:

You use speculation as if it's fact. :oldlol:

Thanks for the :oldlol:
You're talking to a retard who has never watched an entire game of basketball in his life.

[PP34Deuce]

Masterful use of the media by Lebron.

If you noticed you had sports columnist stating Cleveland would win against Golden State in 2017 for a finals matchup. The underdog narrative helps alleviate pressure.

The pressure is on KD and Golden State and Lebrons comments are more about removing distractions from Cleveland.

When he plays carefree he's dangerous. He has no pressure right now and more importantly, Kyrie and Love have no pressure.

He's just leveraging the media to create the David(Lebron) vs Goliath(Warriors) narrative.

It's a smart business PR move.

[jrong]

"I know teams switch and pick up new coaches or new players, and their whole goal is kind of they want to beat me," James told cleveland.com. "It's never just about me, but I always hear them saying, 'We gotta beat LeBron.' It's not just me on the court, but I understand that teams get together in this conference and across the league to try to beat me."

Dayum Bron don't do em like that :lol

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/lebron-on-super-teams-teams-get-together-across-the-league-to-try-to-beat-me-102316

As if LeBron didn't get together with a top 2 player in the conference and top 3 in the league (plus another superstar) because he couldn't beat the Celtics (which he admitted was a motivation).

Somewhere Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen are desperately trying to find their pupils because their eyes are rolling around so hard in the back of their heads....

[34-24 Footwork]

Lol. Joined Miami to be Boston...only to get WASTES by the Mavericks. Lol.

Lol.

Ran back home to the Cavs to beat the Spurs....only to get trashed by the Warriors.

[egokiller]

You are confusing prime with PEAK.

Hell, a 21 year old Lebron had a career high 31.4 ppg.

Shaq was in his PRIME at age 20, and by 22 he was outplaying a peak Hakeem in the Finals.

How about this...a 21 year old Shaq...

39.8 mpg, 29.3 ppg, 13.2 rpg, 2.4 apg, 2.9 bpg, .599 FG%, .554 FT%, and a .605 TS%.

A 27 year old Shaq in his MVP season...

40.0 mpg, 29.7 ppg, 13.6 rpg, 3.8 apg, 3.0 bpg, .574 FG%, .524 FT%, and a .578 TS%.

MAGIC was in his PRIME at age 20. My god, by the Finals he was winning the first of 3 FMVPs (and another at age 22.)

KAJ was ROY, who hung 28.8 ppg and 14.5 rpg, and then who was OVERWHELMING the post-season...as a 22 year old rookie. And I would argue that he PEAKED at ages 23-24.

Wilt destroyed the league as a 23 year old rookie.

You can go right down the list. The vast majority of the truly great players were in their PRIMES almost from day one. Yes, most all had a higher PEAK shortly thereafter.


And yes, Kyrie hit the game-winning shot. It doesn't matter if it occurred in the last second, or minute. Hell, Kevin Love made a HUGE "game-saving" STOP, as well.

Don't even waste your time on these brain dead posters LAZ. All you have to do to address such arguments is say "Jason Terry" ..... and that's the end of the conversation.

They never apply context and facts to their arguments when evaluting Lebron James. You've already pointed the 2007 and 2011 finals. In their minds sucess against a depleated GSW team negates anything that happened in 2007 and 2011.

[aj1987]

Lol. Joined Miami to be Boston...only to get WASTES by the Mavericks. Lol.

Lol.

Ran back home to the Cavs to beat the Spurs....only to get trashed by the Warriors.

Don't even waste your time on these brain dead posters LAZ. All you have to do to address such arguments is say "Jason Terry" ..... and that's the end of the conversation.

They never apply context and facts to their arguments when evaluting Lebron James. You've already pointed the 2007 and 2011 finals. In their minds sucess against a depleated GSW team negates anything that happened in 2007 and 2011.

:roll: :roll:

Look at these two sluts still melting. Are you gonna kill yourselves after LeBron wins his 4th?

[34-24 Footwork]

Lol. AJ mad as hell in this thread.

[West-Side]

Clown joins Wade & Bosh then as they get old bounces back to Kyrie & Love.

[egokiller]

Jason Terry

[LAZERUSS]

Jason Terry

Or this...a guy that the Jester couldn't score a point against...

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/1001/nba_g_james_gb2_576.jpg

Just proves what I have been saying all along...WEAK ERA.

[Hey Yo]

Clown joins Wade & Bosh then as they get old bounces back to Kyrie & Love.
How'd that giant SHIT taste that LeBron dropped on your face?


https://suntimesmedia.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/screen-shot-2016-06-19-at-11-08-37-pm.png

[egokiller]

Just proves what I have been saying all along...WEAK ERA.

I agree it is a weak era, but I'll also say that we are back to the same shit of the Celtics/Lakers days. Now it's the Cavs/GSW days where both teams are going to the finals for many years to come, but only a much less physcial game and players flopping all over the place.

[LAZERUSS]

I agree it is a weak era, but I'll also say that we are back to the same shit of the Celtics/Lakers days. Now it's the Cavs/GSW days where both teams are going to the finals for many years to come, but only a much less physcial game and players flopping all over the place.

I was being semi-facetious on the weak era, (maybe watered down would be a better statement), but I do agree with your assessment, It is now a league a couple of colluded super teams, and a bunch of have-nots.

Of course, it has been that was in the East since LeCoward came into the league. Other than the '08 Celtics, another short-lived "super team", and the colluded Jester's stacked teams, the East has been pure shit.

Had LeBaldo taken his teams to the West, he likely would have only made 2-3 Finals, and perhaps none. Having to play 50+ win teams on a nightly basis, instead of the many 20-30 win teams, and then having to run thru the gauntlet that was in the West...who knows. Given what happened last season, when it was obvious that the Thunder were a better team than a healthy Warrior team, and then healthy GS's romp to a 3-1 series lead against the Cavs...and before the league stepped in and suspended Green, followed by key injuries to two of the Warriors' best defenders (including the LeFlop-stopper), well,...I don't see the Cavs winning last year, either.

[knicksman]

at the end of the day, only losers respect bran

[knicksman]

real talk tho. Once you admit youre a bran stan, you automatically becomes a loser in my eyes. Low standard.

[SouBeachTalents]

real talk tho. Once you admit youre a bran stan, you automatically becomes a loser in my eyes. Low standard.

How'd the Knicks do tonight?

[knicksman]

How'd the Knicks do tonight?

LOL at this loser. Trying to be the best poster on a message board. Coz thats the only achievement you will get in your lifetime.

[egokiller]

I was being semi-facetious on the weak era, (maybe watered down would be a better statement), but I do agree with your assessment, It is now a league a couple of colluded super teams, and a bunch of have-nots.

Of course, it has been that was in the East since LeCoward came into the league. Other than the '08 Celtics, another short-lived "super team", and the colluded Jester's stacked teams, the East has been pure shit.

Had LeBaldo taken his teams to the West, he likely would have only made 2-3 Finals, and perhaps none. Having to play 50+ win teams on a nightly basis, instead of the many 20-30 win teams, and then having to run thru the gauntlet that was in the West...who knows. Given what happened last season, when it was obvious that the Thunder were a better team than a healthy Warrior team, and then healthy GS's romp to a 3-1 series lead against the Cavs...and before the league stepped in and suspended Green, followed by key injuries to two of the Warriors' best defenders (including the LeFlop-stopper), well,...I don't see the Cavs winning last year, either.

Exactly and what the lebron stans hate is the fact that they can't have it both ways.

Either Kyrie played a depleated team that was 45% of it's ability due to suspension/inury and that's what allowed him to match lebrons 40+ in game 5 and also allowed a player to lead in all categories due to playing a shell of a team, OR...

GSW was on par with the Cavs in terms of health and and Kyrie's 40+ on 71% shooting as the 2nd option was legit, enabling the Cavs to win game 5 and have the necessary momentum to win the next 3 games.

The lestans are all twisted and discombobulated by this and they really don't have an out. It's either they admit Kyrie is just that damn good and therefore diminish the whole "lebron and scrubs" narritive, or its Lebron was able to win and lead in all 5 categories only due to a depleated GSW team.

There's a reason why this is the only time 2 players have only both scored 40 plus in the same finals game....they were going up against a weakened, depleated shell of their former self GSW team.

[aj1987]

Lol. AJ mad as hell in this thread.
Are you gonna kill yourself after LeBron wins his 4th?




Lozerus still melting down. :roll: :roll:

Bruh, your roided lover ran to the Lakers and had a teammate average 38/5/8 and another average 18/10 and still lost the Finals. GOAT choker.

1969 Finals Game 7: 4-13 FT's (2 point loss)

I doubt there'll be another player who's a greater choker than Chokerlain.

[LAZERUSS]

Are you gonna kill yourself after LeBron wins his 4th?




Lozerus still melting down.

Bruh, your roided lover ran to the Lakers and had a teammate average 38/5/8 and another average 18/10 and still lost the Finals. GOAT choker.

1969 Finals Game 7: 4-13 FT's (2 point loss)

I doubt there'll be another player who's a greater choker than Chokerlain.


:roll: :roll: :roll:

LePuke in the '07 Finals. Shot .356, and in the clinching sweeping one point loss, he shot a horrific 10-30 from the field, and guess what... 2-6 from the line.

In his '11 Finals, he went from leading his team in scoring, at 27 ppg in the regular season, down to 17 ppg (using the same rounding methods used against Lord Chamberlain), and was only their 3rd leading scorer. On top of that he shot like shit, and couldn't hit his FTs to save his life. He was called out by a teammate for playing like the pxxxy he has always been, and then hid in the corner of the clinching game six, and watched the Bus Rider Wade choke away the Finals. Hell, he couldn't even score a point against the 5-8 JJ Barea.

Unquestionably, the two worst Finals by a player masquerading in the so-called all-time Top-10 list.

:roll: :roll: :roll:


While Chamberlain dominated the glass, and outplayed his opposing center (as he always did), all while putting up a huge game seven of 18-27-10 on a game high .656 TS% (and holding his HOF peer to a .342 TS%.)

Absolutely no comparison. The Jester was just AWFUL, and if you remove Allen and Kyrie's game winners, and Shrinkage would now be "1-7."

[aj1987]

Ilt Chokerlain facts from the '69 Finals:

1. 8th in PPG from both teams

2. 4th in PPG on West's team

3. 2nd WORST FT% from both teams

4. WORST FT% from both team (players who took over 2 FT's a game)

5. Only player in history to lose a ring with two All-Stars, 2 All-NBA, 1 All-Def, and a player averaging 39/5/8

6. 8.8 PPG drop from RS to the Finals

7. 8.3% drop in FG% from RS to the Finals

8. 7.1% drop in FT% from RS to the Finals

9. Stats 'wilted' even though he saw a 2 minute increase in playing time from the RS to the Finals

Again, these are all FACTS, Lozerus. None of them are opinions.

The mental midget, Ilt Chokerlain, was hilariously bad in the postseason. No wonder he's considered to be the GOAT choker and statpadder.

"Greatest low-post scorer" ....

Dude would be lucky to average over 15, if he played in the modern era and not that garbage ass joke era.


1968 East Finals Games 6 & 7: 14-38 FT's
1969 Finals Game 7: 4-13 FT's
1970 Finals Game 7: 1-11 FT's

.511 FT% shooter in the regular season
.465 in the playoffs
.375 in the finals


Chamberlains ppg in regular season: 30.1
Chamberlains ppg in playoffs: 22.5
Chamberlain's ppg in the Finals: 18

Default NBA choking rating

Advanced Formula: Losses with HCA + playoff ppg drop + finals ppg drop + playoff rpg drop + finals rpg drop + playoff apg drop + finals apg drop + playoff fg% drop + finals fg% drop + playoff ft% drop + finals ft% drop - rings

Wilt Chamberlain: 5 + (30.1-22.5) + (30.1-18.6) + (22.9-24.9) + (22.9-24.6) + (4.4-4.2) + (4.4-3.8) + (54.0-52.2) + (54.0-55.9) + (51.1-46.5) + (51.1-37.5) - 2 = 37.3

Ilt's scoring drop off from the RS to the PO's:

'60 - -4.4
'61 - -1.4
'62 - -15.4
'63 - Missed the PO's despite averaging 44.8/24.3/3.4 on 52.8%
'64 - -2.2
'65 - -5.4
'66 - -5.5
'67 - -2.4
'68 - -0.6
'69 - -6.6
'70 - -5.2 (Injured his knee, so not really gonna count this year)
'71 - -2.4
'72 - -0.1
'73 - -2.8

Those numbers would translate to ~15 PPG in the '90's, BTW. Playing in a weak ass era definitely helped boost his stats.


Ilt's FG% from the RS to the PO's:

1960 - +3.5
1961 - -4.0
1962 - -3.9
1964 - +1.8
1965 - +2.0
1966 - -3.1
1967 - -10.4
1968 - -6.1
1979 - -3.8
1970 - -1.9
1971 - -9.0
1972 - -8.6
1973 - -17.5


:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

Great post, Lozerus.

[LAZERUSS]

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

Great post, Lozerus.

LeChoke...

'07 Finals. .356 from the field, and in the clinching and sweeping one point loss, he single-handedly carried his team down the toilet with a horrific 10-30 from the field, and a trembling 2-6 from the line.

'08 And against the one great team he would face in the East... a .355 FG%.

'09?

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2010/07/dan_gilbert_says_lebron_james.html


Gilbert also said he believes James quit on the Cavs in Game 6 of their series in 2009 against Orlando.

"Go back and look at the tape," he said. "How many shots did he take?"

Sure enough...QUIT.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200905300ORL.html


2010. QUIT on his team on a NATIONAL Televised pivotal game five...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201005110CLE.html

Shoots a white-flag waving 3-14 from the floor...

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2010/07/dan_gilbert_says_lebron_james.html


"He quit," Gilbert said. "Not just in Game 5, but in Games 2, 4 and 6. Watch the tape. The Boston series was unlike anything in the history of sports for a superstar."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdqy27KsqYk


2011 Finals. Goes from leading scorer on his team, to dropping 10 ppg and only third leading scorer. Watches Bus Rider Wade choke away the clinching game six. Gets badly outplayed by Jason Terry, and can't score a point when defended by the 5-8 JJ Barea.

2013 Finals. Down 3-2 in game six, and playing like shit the entire game, he goes 1-4 in the last four minutes, and in the last seconds of regulation throws up a wild prayer that misses so badly, that an out of position Chris "Can't Do" Bosh taps it out to Ray Allen, who hits the series-saving three. Even in OT, LeChoke chokes, going 1-3. Carried by his teammates to a title.

2014 Finals. The most worthless 28-8-4 .679 TS% performance in Finals history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y02r-Dz5cMw

Plays like shit when the games are close, and then PADS his stats when the games are blowouts.

QUITS on his team in game one, using the famous "menstrual cramps" as an excuse, and the QUITS again in game five...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1PesQ1yA6g

Just a KNOWN QUITTER.


2015 Finals:

Goes 21-59 in 4th quarters and OT, and shoots .351 when defended by FMVP Iguadala.

Goes 2-8 in the 4th quarter, and 0-4 in OT, and yet watches his TEAMMATES WIN game two!

Shoots a horrific .398 overall, and is worthless in the last three games of the Finals. No player has ever put up a more pathetic 36 ppg series in NBA history. Loses the FMVP to a ROLE player off the bench. And to be honest, was just DOMINATED by him when he was defended by him.


2016 Finals.

A complete bystander in the first four games. In the 4th game, he is content to lose the game, and in the last minute, when his team is down by nine points, and needs treys, he PADS his stats by taking uncontested layups on three straight possessions.

In that game, Dray taps him in his vaxxxa, and he cries to the NBA. The most prolific FLOPPER in NBA history...crying like the baby he has always been, and gets the Warriors best player suspended for game five. Of course, it is KYRIE who saves the series with a game five for the ages (only Wilt's must win game six of the '70 Finals is a higher scoring more FG% efficient Finals game in NBA history.)

Then, the LeCoward-Stopper, Iggy, injures his back early in game six, and with him barely able to walk, LePuke FINALLY has a 50% FG% game against him. His only one when defended by Iggy, in their 15 straight H2H's dating back to the '15 Finals. Even then, in the 4th quarter, the Jester shoots 2-7.

In game seven, LeChoke pulls his usual 4th quarter hiding act, and in the last four minutes, shoots his usual 0-4. Fortunately for LeChoke, it is again, KYRIE who wins the series with a clutch three (oh, and another teammate, Love, makes the game-saving stop.)

And the same Draymond who was suspended in game five, just DOMINATES game seven, running away with the scoring, rebounding, and all of the efficiency marks...and is easily the best player on the floor.


So, the Jester is TWO TEAMMATE shots away from being "1-7."

LeCHOKE!!!!

[aj1987]

Ilt Chokerlain facts from the '69 Finals:

1. 8th in PPG from both teams

2. 4th in PPG on West's team

3. 2nd WORST FT% from both teams

4. WORST FT% from both team (players who took over 2 FT's a game)

5. Only player in history to lose a ring with two All-Stars, 2 All-NBA, 1 All-Def, and a player averaging 39/5/8

6. 8.8 PPG drop from RS to the Finals

7. 8.3% drop in FG% from RS to the Finals

8. 7.1% drop in FT% from RS to the Finals

9. Stats 'wilted' even though he saw a 2 minute increase in playing time from the RS to the Finals

Again, these are all FACTS, Lozerus. None of them are opinions.

The mental midget, Ilt Chokerlain, was hilariously bad in the postseason. No wonder he's considered to be the GOAT choker and statpadder.

"Greatest low-post scorer" ....

Dude would be lucky to average over 15, if he played in the modern era and not that garbage ass joke era.


1968 East Finals Games 6 & 7: 14-38 FT's
1969 Finals Game 7: 4-13 FT's
1970 Finals Game 7: 1-11 FT's

.511 FT% shooter in the regular season
.465 in the playoffs
.375 in the finals


Chamberlains ppg in regular season: 30.1
Chamberlains ppg in playoffs: 22.5
Chamberlain's ppg in the Finals: 18

Default NBA choking rating

Advanced Formula: Losses with HCA + playoff ppg drop + finals ppg drop + playoff rpg drop + finals rpg drop + playoff apg drop + finals apg drop + playoff fg% drop + finals fg% drop + playoff ft% drop + finals ft% drop - rings

Wilt Chamberlain: 5 + (30.1-22.5) + (30.1-18.6) + (22.9-24.9) + (22.9-24.6) + (4.4-4.2) + (4.4-3.8) + (54.0-52.2) + (54.0-55.9) + (51.1-46.5) + (51.1-37.5) - 2 = 37.3

Ilt's scoring drop off from the RS to the PO's:

'60 - -4.4
'61 - -1.4
'62 - -15.4
'63 - Missed the PO's despite averaging 44.8/24.3/3.4 on 52.8%
'64 - -2.2
'65 - -5.4
'66 - -5.5
'67 - -2.4
'68 - -0.6
'69 - -6.6
'70 - -5.2 (Injured his knee, so not really gonna count this year)
'71 - -2.4
'72 - -0.1
'73 - -2.8

Those numbers would translate to ~15 PPG in the '90's, BTW. Playing in a weak ass era definitely helped boost his stats.


Ilt's FG% from the RS to the PO's:

1960 - +3.5
1961 - -4.0
1962 - -3.9
1964 - +1.8
1965 - +2.0
1966 - -3.1
1967 - -10.4
1968 - -6.1
1979 - -3.8
1970 - -1.9
1971 - -9.0
1972 - -8.6
1973 - -17.5

Since you're clinically retarded and admittedly do not even watch the games:

Games 3-5, LeBron put up 33/13/7/2/3 on 53%. He shot 54%, 52%, and 53% during that stretch. Again, those are from games 3-5. Not even including G6, in which Iggy played 30 minutes and LeBron put up 41/16/7/3/3 on 61% TS or G7 in which Iggy played 40 minutes and LeBron put up 27/11/11/2/3.

If we include those games, LeBron averaged 33/12/9/2/3 on 52% after playing terribly in the first two games.

Game 7 - LeBron scored 11 of the Cavs' 18 points in the 4th Q. LeBron scored in one quarter nearly what Wilt averages for his CAREER in the Finals. After GSW went up 4, LeBron scored 6 straight points to keep the Cavs in the game. Scored 8 straight points at one point. Singlehandedly kept the Cavs in the game.

The four minute stretch? Neither team scored a SINGLE point until Kyrie made that incredible 3. LeBron also had the block and the game and title sealing FT in the end.

#2 Kyrie being more clutch than LeBron:

The Cavs were struggling and LeBron scored 11 points in the 4th Q. 8 straight points at one point and scored 6 straight after GSW were up 4 and with all the momentum. Dude absolutely killed their momentum and gave the Cavs a 2pt lead. He also has the game saving block on Iggy.

Irving in the 4th Q's of the Finals:

https://s22.postimg.org/wjpp7uq8x/Screen_Shot_2016_09_06_at_11_31_25_PM.png

LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals:

https://s10.postimg.io/ckzotdxft/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_53_42_AM.png

LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 3 games):

https://s10.postimg.io/pdnstb91l/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_53_56_AM.png

LeBron in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 2 games):

https://s10.postimg.io/wjfjvri4p/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_55_15_AM.png

Kyrie in the 4th Q's of the Finals (last 2 games):

https://s10.postimg.io/m83733qfd/Screen_Shot_2016_09_08_at_12_54_46_AM.png

Now go back to stanning the choking roided mental midget, Lozerus.

LeBron was purposefully slowing down the pace. You don't win against the Warriors (with a garbage ass team no less) playing run and gun ball. They're gonna out shoot you and destroy you. The Cavs would've lost in 4 straight blowouts if they played uptempo basketball.

He couldn't hand over the playmaking duties to others nor was he able to let others make decisions, because they're low IQ players. Shump and JR were terrible and can't create for others. Delly had a hard time bringing the ball up court. Actually, Shump is a below average playmaker, but the other two are worse than garbage.

The game in which Mozgov put up 28 points, the Cavs lost by 21 points. LeBron struggled shooting the ball, but he did have 20/12/8. 12 rebounds and 8 assists (oh wait, rebounds and assists only matter when it's Bird). Delly went 3-14, JR 2-12, Shump 2-9, JJ 0-3, etc.. A combined 18% FG%. Literally no one could hit a shot. To top it off, the Warriors went small and Moz couldn't guard anyone on the court. Bogut was benched and Green was playing at the C.

You're blaming LeBron for Moz not getting more involved in game 5 after the 28 point game, when in fact, the COACH played him 9 minutes. He played over 30 minutes in game 6 and LeBron got him involved. Dude put up 17/12/4.

For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.



....

[aj1987]

LeBron James finished the 2015 NBA Finals with averages of 35.8 points, 13.3 rebounds, and 8.8 assists per game.

LeBron James is the first player in NBA Finals history to lead both teams in points, assists and rebounds for the entire series.

Without James on the floor, Cleveland’s field goal percentage dropped for 40% to 17%, and it’s offensive efficiency fell from 97.3 to 50.9.

According to Tom Haberstroh of ESPN, James accounted for 38.3% of Cleveland's points in the Finals, the second-highest percentage of team points in Finals history. He is edged only by Michael Jordan scoring 38.4% of the Bulls' points in the 1993 Finals, which Chicago won.

He was responsible for an average of 57.7 points per game on points he either scored or assisted on; which in turn, accounted for 62% of the Cavaliers’s points in the NBA Finals.

According to ESPN Stats & Information, by pulling the Elo Ratings for each team to make the NBA Finals before the series began, and taking into account a team’s home-court advantage, it was able to project each team’s chances of winning prior to the Finals. What was discovered was that James’ teams had the lowest expected winning percentage — 37% — out of any of the other players on this list. If you consider that James still managed to win two titles with those odds stacked against him, the four losses don’t seem so terrible. And if we look at the 2015 Finals by itself, we’ll realize that James did was pretty much unprecedented.

“If we look at a multi-year Statistical Plus/Minus talent projection for every NBA Finals team, this Cavs team ranks as the ninth-least talented NBA finalist since 1985. (By contrast, Cleveland’s opponents, the mighty Golden State Warriors, rank as the 14th-most talented.) Remove James, and things get even more dire; his supporting cast ranks as the third-worst team carried by its best player to the NBA Finals since 1985.”

If you were to take James’s talent rating (6.6) and replace it with that of the league-average player (0.0), the Cavaliers’s talent rating would dwindle to -0.1. So what the King ended up doing was carrying one of the three-worst supporting casts in NBA history to within two games of a championship. Of course, what we forgot to mention was that FiveThirtyEight also determined that these Golden State Warriors finished the year with the second-highest peak Elo Rating (1822) in NBA history and third-highest Composite Elo Rating of all time (1796), making them one of the best basketball teams ever. And what James did against them remarkable.

When LeBron was NOT on the floor, JR Smith, Matthew Dellavedova, James Jones and Iman Shumpert DID NOT MAKE A SHOT in the NBA Finals

Without LeBron James on the floor this series.
JR Smith 0/9 FG
Delly 0/7 FG
J. Jones 0/3 FG
Shumpert 0/2 FG
Total 0/21 FG

Great posts, Lozerus! :applause: :applause:

[LAZERUSS]

LeBron James finished the 2015 NBA Finals with averages of 35.8 points, 13.3 rebounds, and 8.8 assists per game.

LeBron James is the first player in NBA Finals history to lead both teams in points, assists and rebounds for the entire series.

Without James on the floor, Cleveland’s field goal percentage dropped for 40% to 17%, and it’s offensive efficiency fell from 97.3 to 50.9.

According to Tom Haberstroh of ESPN, James accounted for 38.3% of Cleveland's points in the Finals, the second-highest percentage of team points in Finals history. He is edged only by Michael Jordan scoring 38.4% of the Bulls' points in the 1993 Finals, which Chicago won.

He was responsible for an average of 57.7 points per game on points he either scored or assisted on; which in turn, accounted for 62% of the Cavaliers’s points in the NBA Finals.

According to ESPN Stats & Information, by pulling the Elo Ratings for each team to make the NBA Finals before the series began, and taking into account a team’s home-court advantage, it was able to project each team’s chances of winning prior to the Finals. What was discovered was that James’ teams had the lowest expected winning percentage — 37% — out of any of the other players on this list. If you consider that James still managed to win two titles with those odds stacked against him, the four losses don’t seem so terrible. And if we look at the 2015 Finals by itself, we’ll realize that James did was pretty much unprecedented.

“If we look at a multi-year Statistical Plus/Minus talent projection for every NBA Finals team, this Cavs team ranks as the ninth-least talented NBA finalist since 1985. (By contrast, Cleveland’s opponents, the mighty Golden State Warriors, rank as the 14th-most talented.) Remove James, and things get even more dire; his supporting cast ranks as the third-worst team carried by its best player to the NBA Finals since 1985.”

If you were to take James’s talent rating (6.6) and replace it with that of the league-average player (0.0), the Cavaliers’s talent rating would dwindle to -0.1. So what the King ended up doing was carrying one of the three-worst supporting casts in NBA history to within two games of a championship. Of course, what we forgot to mention was that FiveThirtyEight also determined that these Golden State Warriors finished the year with the second-highest peak Elo Rating (1822) in NBA history and third-highest Composite Elo Rating of all time (1796), making them one of the best basketball teams ever. And what James did against them remarkable.

When LeBron was NOT on the floor, JR Smith, Matthew Dellavedova, James Jones and Iman Shumpert DID NOT MAKE A SHOT in the NBA Finals

Without LeBron James on the floor this series.
JR Smith 0/9 FG
Delly 0/7 FG
J. Jones 0/3 FG
Shumpert 0/2 FG
Total 0/21 FG

Well known Shrinkage nut-kisser...

http://factoryofsadness.co/2015/04/19/brian-windhorst-choking-is-what-lebron-james-is-prone-to-do/


“Everything that LeBron does, his going into a bunker, turning off social media; These are all anti-choking maneuvers…the choke is what Lebron is prone to do. And so everything he’s doing in the postseason is to avoid that choke.”

As for the Jester's '15 Finals...here is what ACTUALLY transpired...

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/06/lebron-james-had-the-worst-awesome-performance-in-nba-finals-history


Andre Iguodala was the rightful recipient of the Finals MVP and certainly deserved to win it by more than the 7-4 margin he had over LeBron. Why? Despite LeBron’s prodigious numbers, his offensive efficiency was garbage — and that’s being kind. Iggy was like a wall, holding LeBron to just eight uncontested shots prior to Game 6 and forcing The King into an 11-46 shooting performance when he was D’ing him up.

That’s the stat of a desperate man. A man who has no answers with the loss of teammates Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love. Why did LeBron 35.8 points per game in the NBA Finals? Because he took so many shots that it’d have been impossible not to. His shooting nights, with Iguodala draped all over him: 18-38, 11-35, 14-34, 7-22, 15-34 and 13-33. That’s a .398 shooting percentage from the floor.

After a surprising lead of 2-1 games after 3, everyone knew Game 4 was the tipping point in the NBA Finals. James needed to win the game to put the Warriors away. So what did LeBron do with the series on the line? He put up 20 points on 7-22 shooting, a .314 shooting percentage, a 5-10 night from the free-throw line, with 12 rebounds and eight assists thrown in to make for what could have been one of the worst triple-doubles in Finals history. From January 1st through that night, LeBron had only scored fewer than 20 points in 10 games, many of which came in blowouts in which LeBron left the game early.

After his 13-33 performance in the series-clinching game, most of that due to Iguodala, there was no doubt who the actual winner should be especially when you consider that Iguodala — who didn’t start a game this season until the Finals — scored 22 points in that crucial Game 5 and 27 in the clincher. Those were his two highest point totals of the entire year.




Again...when defended by Iggy...an AWFUL .351 FG%.

How about LeChoke in his 4th quarters and OT in that series? 21-59. Yep... a
.356 FG%.

THAT was the Jester in the '15 Finals.

BY FAR the worst 36 ppg series in NBA HISTORY. And much like his '14 Finals...ZERO IMPACT.

LeCHOKE!!!!!

[aj1987]

[QUOTE=LAZERUSS]LeBron was purposefully slowing down the pace. You don't win against the Warriors (with a garbage ass team no less) playing run and gun ball. They're gonna out shoot you and destroy you. The Cavs would've lost in 4 straight blowouts if they played uptempo basketball.

He couldn't hand over the playmaking duties to others nor was he able to let others make decisions, because they're low IQ players. Shump and JR were terrible and can't create for others. Delly had a hard time bringing the ball up court. Actually, Shump is a below average playmaker, but the other two are worse than garbage.

The game in which Mozgov put up 28 points, the Cavs lost by 21 points. LeBron struggled shooting the ball, but he did have 20/12/8. 12 rebounds and 8 assists (oh wait, rebounds and assists only matter when it's Bird). Delly went 3-14, JR 2-12, Shump 2-9, JJ 0-3, etc.. A combined 18% FG%. Literally no one could hit a shot. To top it off, the Warriors went small and Moz couldn't guard anyone on the court. Bogut was benched and Green was playing at the C.

You're blaming LeBron for Moz not getting more involved in game 5 after the 28 point game, when in fact, the COACH played him 9 minutes. He played over 30 minutes in game 6 and LeBron got him involved. Dude put up 17/12/4.

For the series, the 3 guys who played the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest minutes managed to score a combined 25.5 points on sub 40% TS. 29% FG% and 28% 3pt%.

LeBron James finished the 2015 NBA Finals with averages of 35.8 points, 13.3 rebounds, and 8.8 assists per game.

LeBron James is the first player in NBA Finals history to lead both teams in points, assists and rebounds for the entire series.

Without James on the floor, Cleveland

[LAZERUSS]

Totally agree, Lazeruss, Shrinkage played like shit. :applause: :applause: :cheers:

Here's to you ajackoff...

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

[Mr Feeny]

Just watching aj demolish the Kobe and Wilt lover:biggums:

[Mr Feeny]

Why do wilt stans have to write a novel for every post?

Dito Kobe stans.
All shook that bran is 10 tiers above their idols :roll:

[aj1987]

Dito Kobe stans.
All shook that bran is 10 tiers above their idols :roll:
Kobe stans can't type out a proper sentence, let alone a novel. They'd all have have aneurysms if they tried.


Lozerus, hold the L, retard. :roll: :roll:

[sportjames23]

The Jester statistically had his best Finals of his career in the '14 Finals.

However, when the games were close, he was pure shit. When the games were blowouts, he put up big numbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y02r-Dz5cMw

The Spurs didn't give a shit about him when they were running up huge leads.

CLEARLY, LeCOWARD had ZERO IMPACT in that Finals.

All Shrinkage did in that Finals was "lead" his team to the worst blowout series loss in NBA Finals history.

Of course, he was already waving the white flag in game one...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HHxkTHjBZo

And not the first time, either...

https://showmehow2play.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/411082-lebron-james.jpg


Hol' up. Didn't you used to defend Lebron here? Lebron was like the only modern player you stanned for, IIRC.

[aj1987]

Hol' up. Didn't you used to defend Lebron here? Lebron was like the only modern player you stanned for, IIRC.
Dude has been melting down since ESPN ranked LeBron over Ilt Chokerlain. Had a full meltdown once LeBron won his 3rd and literally everyone started ranking him over the mental midget.

[Annyong!]

LeBron started this culture of players colluding in their prime. :hammerhead:

If he stacks the deck, it is only fair others get to as well. I'm rooting against the Warriors for it too, but it is just ignorant to pretend that he didn't cause this by joining stacked teams twice already.

[WallIn]

http://oi63.tinypic.com/69kqp4.jpg

[DoctorP]

http://i.imgur.com/Ak3oSJn.jpg

[Meticode]

LeBron understands how the league works. He did the same thing when he left the Cavs for the Heat to beat Boston.

[moongaze]

LBJ went from being a joke to being a literal God in one season.

What a man.

And all cause Kyrie made the tie breaking three. I always get a smirk inside seeing how lebron has been elevated to god level and is given all the praise when another person actually had the most important play in the game.

[egokiller]

And all cause Kyrie made the tie breaking three. I always get a smirk inside seeing how lebron has been elevated to god level and is given all the praise when another person actually had the most important play in the game.

You are conversing with idiots that have never even set foot in a Cleveland sports bar. Some living in other countries even. Every time I go to Cleveland area and watch a game in a sports bar everyone is talking about Kyrie's shot when the finals are mentioned. I have yet to hear someone talk about Lebron's contribution in the finals unless it's from some child on insidehoops. :roll:

[aj1987]

You are conversing with idiots that have never even set foot in a Cleveland sports bar. Some living in other countries even. Every time I go to Cleveland area and watch a game in a sports bar everyone is talking about Kyrie's shot when the finals are mentioned. I have yet to hear someone talk about Lebron's contribution in the finals unless it's from some child on insidehoops. :roll:
Is your retarded ass still gonna pretend that you aren't too much of a bitch to post on your Straight_Dumbass account?

[egokiller]

Is your retarded ass still gonna pretend that you aren't too much of a bitch to post on your Straight_Dumbass account?

Stop stanning bitch made players. Lebron just said your life is meaningless.

[aj1987]

Stop stanning bitch made players. Lebron just said your life is meaningless.
Keep melting, Straight_Bitchmade. :roll: :roll:

[Lebron23]

The only nba player who beat a 73 wins team in the playoffs

[And1AllDay]

This vectors dude is a major f@ggot

:oldlol::roll:

[Spurs m8]

So much cringe in that quote.

They did him 1-9 after that comment.

Also, ofcourse, you stack teams in the weak conference...so chances are they gotta beat you...and they will, more often than not - statistically.

Cringe.cringe.cringe.

This guy is so unaware hahahhaha

[And1AllDay]

And all cause Kyrie made the tie breaking three. I always get a smirk inside seeing how lebron has been elevated to god level and is given all the praise when another person actually had the most important play in the game.


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https://i.postimg.cc/dVTXP3fm/8bd81a50eb70b4f479f5a77d891c133d.jpg

[DABIGSALSISHA]

https://images.saymedia-content.com/.image/t_share/MTc1NDU3NzQ1NDczMDUzODkw/michael-jordan-versus-lebron-james.jpg


Michael Jefferey Jordan:

22 TITLES

6× NBA champion (1991–1993, 1996–1998)
6× NBA Finals MVP (1991–1993, 1996–1998)
5× NBA Most Valuable Player (1988, 1991, 1992, 1996, 1998)
14× NBA All-Star (1985–1993, 1996–1998, 2002, 2003)
3× NBA All-Star Game MVP (1988, 1996, 1998)
10× All-NBA First Team (1987–1993, 1996–1998)
All-NBA Second Team (1985)
2X Gold Medalist in the Olympic Games

https://media1.tenor.com/images/e38876e3f5dff18694a9e74d5f06dc95/tenor.gif?itemid=5619477

The Rest is just Blowing Smoke....

https://www.adweek.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/lebron-crying-baby-PAGE-2017.jpg

[Lebron23]

https://images.saymedia-content.com/.image/t_share/MTc1NDU3NzQ1NDczMDUzODkw/michael-jordan-versus-lebron-james.jpg


Michael Jefferey Jordan:

6× NBA champion (1991–1993, 1996–1998)
6× NBA Finals MVP (1991–1993, 1996–1998)
5× NBA Most Valuable Player (1988, 1991, 1992, 1996, 1998)
14× NBA All-Star (1985–1993, 1996–1998, 2002, 2003)
3× NBA All-Star Game MVP (1988, 1996, 1998)
10× All-NBA First Team (1987–1993, 1996–1998)
All-NBA Second Team (1985)
2X Gold Medalist in the Olympic Games

The Rest is just Blowing Smoke....

Not a Jordan thread. You f*cking douchebag

[Nilocon165]

It’s still true, beating Lebron was the Suns championship according to their fans

[Spurs m8]

https://images.saymedia-content.com/.image/t_share/MTc1NDU3NzQ1NDczMDUzODkw/michael-jordan-versus-lebron-james.jpg


Michael Jefferey Jordan:

22 TITLES

6× NBA champion (1991–1993, 1996–1998)
6× NBA Finals MVP (1991–1993, 1996–1998)
5× NBA Most Valuable Player (1988, 1991, 1992, 1996, 1998)
14× NBA All-Star (1985–1993, 1996–1998, 2002, 2003)
3× NBA All-Star Game MVP (1988, 1996, 1998)
10× All-NBA First Team (1987–1993, 1996–1998)
All-NBA Second Team (1985)
2X Gold Medalist in the Olympic Games

https://media1.tenor.com/images/e38876e3f5dff18694a9e74d5f06dc95/tenor.gif?itemid=5619477

The Rest is just Blowing Smoke....

https://www.adweek.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/lebron-crying-baby-PAGE-2017.jpg

Everything about this guy just screams 'winner' and 'out of this world skilled'