but but but... Leonard isn't that good! Durant is better!

[ArbitraryWater]

:oldlol:

Every year the same fools acting like he isn't in that tier...

fcking morons.

KD still hasn't done anything to be better than him the last two years. Its a blowout defensively.

[west_tip]

Thoughts on last years playoff series between the Spurs and Thunder?

[ArbitraryWater]

Thoughts on last years playoff series between the Spurs and Thunder?

Oh you valuing that one H2H playoff series that much now eh?

Thanks for admitting Kobe > Duncan :oldlol:

Thoughts on the Spurs without Duncan?

[hold this L]

Thoughts on last years playoff series between the Spurs and Thunder?
Why would a 6 game playoff series count over 1 regular season game? :lol

[Ben Simmons]

lol, overreactions

[plowking]

Typical post from a kid.

[warriorfan]

I would be surprised if OP can link one post of his where he talks about KL > KD before last night

[tpols]

lmao .. AW you got eat your crow after crying all summer about KD and stacked warriors and no competition :cry:


:lol

[fiddy]

but but but... you are a Branita stan. What do you care about the team that took Bran's soul?

[scm5]

The beginning of the season is where the games mean the least.

[ArbitraryWater]

I would be surprised if OP can link one post of his where he talks about KL > KD before last night

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12015935&postcount=43

[fiddy]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12015935&postcount=43
"Might" is not a definitive statement. You will have to work harder than that to convince anyone.

[ArbitraryWater]

"Might" is not a definitive statement. You will have to work harder than that to convince anyone.

that post is a year after the "might" one and clearly has a definitive tone you dolt :oldlol: who gives a shit anyway, use your time better instead of trying to find out what AW's opinions on Kawhi/KD were in the past.

[fiddy]

that post is a year after the "might" one and clearly has a definitive tone you dolt :oldlol: who gives a shit anyway, use your time better instead of trying to find out what AW's opinions on Kawhi/KD were in the past.

might even:whatever:

PS: if you havent figured it out, fiddy doesnt give much of fuсk about your opinion on most issues :oldlol:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Oh you valuing that one H2H playoff series that much now eh?

Thanks for admitting Kobe > Duncan :oldlol:

Thoughts on the Spurs without Duncan?

How do you know Durant wont be seen as "better", by most fans, when the year is over?

You're basing this thread off one game and you don't even realize it. :oldlol:

[fiddy]

How do you know Durant wont be seen as "better", by most fans, when the year is over?

You're basing this thread off one game and you don't even realize it. :oldlol:
Them emotional millennial aren't very bright, im telling you.

[Smoke117]

autisticwaters at it again

[ArbitraryWater]

How do you know Durant wont be seen as "better", by most fans, when the year is over?

You're basing this thread off one game and you don't even realize it. :oldlol:

this is like the time you tried to detect my sarcasm skills and failed.. :(

[fiddy]

"Im going to be sarcastic by imitating most retards in the NBA forum, who overreact after one game. Ha HA! AW so smart!"
FTFY

[aj1987]

AutisticWater getting bodied in another thread. :roll:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

this is like the time you tried to detect my sarcasm skills and failed.. :(

If you actually had ANY skills that "zinger" would've been apropos.

I actually feel kinda bad. You've doubled my post count on here and yet you're still so green.

[Papaya Petee]

:wtf:
It's one game, Durant is still clearly better than Leonard.

Look at last years playoffs for example.

[Bankaii]

Oh you valuing that one H2H playoff series that much now eh?

Thanks for admitting Kobe > Duncan :oldlol:

Thoughts on the Spurs without Duncan?
Yet you're basing Kawhi being better than Durant off of ONE RS game.
If Kawhi had been trash last night you wouldn't have made this thread.
You're owning yourself, bud.

[AnaheimLakers24]

his career high is still lower than dlos ::lol

[ArbitraryWater]

why is everyone going full retard saying "youre basing your opinion off one game" ? :oldlol:

Read the OP...

and never, ever

https://media.giphy.com/media/gWaKXZ1X8rHOM/giphy.gif

[Draz]

Underrated

[J Shuttlesworth]

KD still hasn't done anything to be better than him the last two years. Its a blowout defensively.
Well I think the difference is that 2015, KD had his Jones fracture. 2016, KD was better than Leonard as shown in the playoffs. Even defensively, KD was elite in 2016 playoffs, and obviously has much more offensive talent than Kawhi.

But using the last two years only is to take away all of KD's scoring titles and his MVP season. Kawhi is great, but he's never been at the level KD was in 2014. He has potential, but he will probably never have a season that good.

And yeah, Kawhi dropped 35, but that's his career high. KD drops 35 in his sleep. Kawhi still has to make a significant offensive step in order to be a top 3 player in the league over KD.

[Milbuck]

Are we seriously doing this? After one 35 point game? :oldlol:

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Kawhi Leonard is a 35 PPG scorer this season thus far.

[Bankaii]

why is everyone going full retard saying "youre basing your opinion off one game" ? :oldlol:

Read the OP...

and never, ever

https://media.giphy.com/media/gWaKXZ1X8rHOM/giphy.gif
"KD hasn't done anything better than Kawhi in 2 years".
2014 KD is on a level Kawhi most likely will never even reach.
2015 he was injured, and Kawhi choked in the 1st round.
2016 KD was still better during the season and outplayed Kawhi in the WCSF.

Kawhi isn't on his level, yet. Maybe this is the year, but you definitely based this thread off of last night.

[RRR3]

KD is most definitely better. Maybe Leonard will be better this season (I won't rule out him taking another giant leap) but it's very unlikely he surpasses Durant IMO. Durant is so much better as an offensive player. One game doesn't change that.

[ArbitraryWater]

"KD hasn't done anything better than Kawhi in 2 years".
2014 KD is on a level Kawhi most likely will never even reach.
2015 he was injured, and Kawhi choked in the 1st round.
2016 KD was still better during the season and outplayed Kawhi in the WCSF.

Kawhi isn't on his level, yet. Maybe this is the year, but you definitely based this thread off of last night.

lol no


Kawhi Leonard is a 35 PPG scorer this season thus far.

My dude is averaging PEAK KOBE scoring numbers so far... absolute mad man!

[aj1987]

lol no
Kawhi Leonard - 21.2 PPG 6.8 RPG 2.6 APG 1.8 SPG 1.0 BPG on 61.6% TS
Kevin Durant - 28.2 PPG 8.2 RPG 5.0 APG 1.0 SPG 1.2 BPG on 63.4% TS

The "advanced" metric you knobs love so much:

WS:

Kawhi - 13.7
Durant - 14.5

PER:

Kawhi - 26
Durant - 28.2

OBPM:

Kawhi - 5.5
Durant - 7.0

DBPM:

Kawhi - 2.8
Durant - 0.9

VORP:

Kawhi - 6.2
Durant - 6.4

Literally the only thing that Kawhi had on KD was steals and DBPM (and that one was quite obvious). KD scored significantly more than Kawhi and on better efficiency. He was also a better passer and rebounder. Of course, Kawhi was the better defender without question, but KD was pretty good defensively as well.

Crawl back into your hole, kid.

EDIT: ****ed up the numbers a bit there. Corrected.

[Annyong!]

Oh you valuing that one H2H playoff series that much now eh?

Thanks for admitting Kobe > Duncan :oldlol:

Thoughts on the Spurs without Duncan?
It was a valid reply to your "KD still hasn't done anything to be better than him the last two years" statement. :confusedshrug:

[hold this L]

Kawhi Leonard - 21.2 PPG 6.8 RPG 2.6 APG 1.8 SPG 1.0 BPG on 61.6% TS
Kevin Durant - 28.2 PPG 8.2 RPG 5.0 APG 1.0 SPG 1.2 BPG on 63.4% TS

The "advanced" metric you knobs love so much:

WS:

Kawhi - 13.7
Durant - 14.5

PER:

Kawhi - 26
Durant - 28.2

OBPM:

Kawhi - 7.0
Durant - 0.9

DBPM:

Kawhi - 5.5
Durant - 2.8

VORP:

Kawhi - 6.2
Durant - 6.4

Literally the only thing that Kawhi had on KD was steals and DBPM (and that one was quite obvious). KD scored significantly more than Kawhi and on better efficiency. He was also a better passer and rebounder. Of course, Kawhi was the better defender without question, but KD was pretty good defensively as well.

Crawl back into your hole, kid.
:applause:

Jesus it's not even close, difference is much bigger than I thought. Rabid fans can't get that there is a clear top 3 with Lebron at the top at the moment. People like Kawhi will have their chance to be better this year, but not point making things to make yourselves feel better.

[NBAGOAT]

:applause:

Jesus it's not even close, difference is much bigger than I thought. Rabid fans can't get that there is a clear top 3 with Lebron at the top at the moment. People like Kawhi will have their chance to be better this year, but not point making things to make yourselves feel better.

well it's not completely clear. Westbrook had a case over Durant last year. Not as good in the RS but better in the playoffs by any advanced metrics. Most people would agree the top three is Curry/Durant and Lebron however.

[ArbitraryWater]

Thanks for showing that Leonard's BPM is better (but you use OBPM and DBPM and not the whole thing :roll:), leading SAS to 67 wins without needing to defer to Westbrook at all times...

Their WS and VORP are virtually identical, I thought Kawhi's edge would have been bigger.

Kawhi's WS's per 48 minutes are also better :lol

Now hop off.

[Rocketswin2013]

Kawhi's game impact was probably better than KD's last year. KD is elite but can be overrated IMO.

[fiddy]

Kawhi's game impact was probably better than KD's last year. KD is elite but can be overrated IMO.
Agreed. Kawhi' intangibles>KD's. KD still the better player doe.

[aj1987]

well it's not completely clear. Westbrook had a case over Durant last year. Not as good in the RS but better in the playoffs by any advanced metrics. Most people would agree the top three is Curry/Durant and Lebron however.
Again, literally the only thing that Kawhi has over KD is defense. About 90% of stats prove that KD was the better player in the RS and the eye test proved that as well.

Kawhi carried them to 67 wins? :roll: :roll:

How did it work out for him in the WCSF? KD roasted Kawhi and his overrated defense. 29/7/4/1/1 on 60% TS. 37/9/2 on 63% TS in the clinching game, while Kawhi put up 22/9/5/3 on 44% TS.

This is about the RS though lets stick to that. KD missed 10 games during the RS. The Thunder went 3-7 in those games. Kawhi also missed 10 game during the RS. The Spurs went 7-3. But yeah, Kawhi carried them to 67 wins. :oldlol:

[ArbitraryWater]

Again, literally the only thing that Kawhi has over KD is defense. About 90% of stats prove that KD was the better player in the RS and the eye test proved that as well.

Kawhi carried them to 67 wins? :roll: :roll:

How did it work out for him in the WCSF? KD roasted Kawhi and his overrated defense. 29/7/4/1/1 on 60% TS. 37/9/2 on 63% TS in the clinching game, while Kawhi put up 22/9/5/3 on 44% TS.

This is about the RS though lets stick to that. KD missed 10 games during the RS. The Thunder went 3-7 in those games. Kawhi also missed 10 game during the RS. The Spurs went 7-3. But yeah, Kawhi carried them to 67 wins. :oldlol:

KD's game 6 is even worse than Leonard's :roll:

1-7 in the 4th quarter, never seen a bigger choke (only Wade in the '14 finals comes to mind).

the bolded has you losing even more credibility.. didnt think it was possible lol.

2 of the 4 stats you posted have Kawhi > KD (once adjusting WS to mins) you dolt

[aj1987]

KD's game 6 is even worse than Leonard's :roll:
Holy shit, you're retarded. How the **** is 22/9/5/3 on 44% better than 37/9/2 on 60%? This is why you need to keep switching accounts, AutisticWater. You keep getting bodied every single time you post.

The Pivotal Game 4 with the Thunder trailing the Spurs 1-2:

Kawhi - 21/6/2/4 on 48% TS
Durant - 41/4/5/4/1 on 67% TS

KD destroyed Kawhi and that's pretty much a fact.


1-7 in the 4th quarter, never seen a bigger choke (only Wade in the '14 finals comes to mind).
Really? It kinda reminded me of LeBron in '07 and '11 and Dirk in '06 and '07.


the bolded has you losing even more credibility.. didnt think it was possible lol.
Great argument, AutisticWater.


2 of the 4 stats you posted have Kawhi > KD (once adjusting WS to mins) you dolt
KD has better raw stats (except for steals), better PER, OBPM, WS, and VORP. The only thing Kawhi has on him are BPM and DBPM.

[SwayDizzle]

if there ever was an overrated player = Kawhi

[solar.hands]

Amazing how a 15th pick is discussed and being considered among the best. He wasnt even known for his offense in college and now he's dropping good numbers and being compared (though stupidly) to an offensive juggernaut like KD.

What is more amazing is how this downie OP keeps coming back here after getting destroyed every time.

[knicksman]

cristina ronaldo fanboy acting tough again..

[NZStreetBaller]

The beginning of the season is where the games mean the least.

The last games mean the least for non playoff teams.

[TrueBlue89]

Idiotic thread. Durant already took Leonard's soul in last season's WCF. Will do it again this year.

[ArbitraryWater]

Holy shit, you're retarded. How the **** is 22/9/5/3 on 44% better than 37/9/2 on 60%? This is why you need to keep switching accounts, AutisticWater. You keep getting bodied every single time you post.

The Pivotal Game 4 with the Thunder trailing the Spurs 1-2:

Kawhi - 21/6/2/4 on 48% TS
Durant - 41/4/5/4/1 on 67% TS

KD destroyed Kawhi and that's pretty much a fact.


Really? It kinda reminded me of LeBron in '07 and '11 and Dirk in '06 and '07.


Great argument, AutisticWater.


KD has better raw stats (except for steals), better PER, OBPM, WS, and VORP. The only thing Kawhi has on him are BPM and DBPM.

You couldnt figure out I was talking about next round's game 6? :roll:

Unreal retardation.

Leads him in WS/48 as well.


Idiotic thread. Durant already took Leonard's soul in last season's WCF. Will do it again this year.

I had KD > KL for the season as well after the *WCSF, but KD threw all that away in the WCF... too bad.

[CelticBaller]

Durant won an MVP

Leonard has not

Case in point

[CelticBaller]

Kawhi Leonard - 21.2 PPG 6.8 RPG 2.6 APG 1.8 SPG 1.0 BPG on 61.6% TS
Kevin Durant - 28.2 PPG 8.2 RPG 5.0 APG 1.0 SPG 1.2 BPG on 63.4% TS

The "advanced" metric you knobs love so much:

WS:

Kawhi - 13.7
Durant - 14.5

PER:

Kawhi - 26
Durant - 28.2

OBPM:

Kawhi - 5.5
Durant - 7.0

DBPM:

Kawhi - 2.8
Durant - 0.9

VORP:

Kawhi - 6.2
Durant - 6.4

Literally the only thing that Kawhi had on KD was steals and DBPM (and that one was quite obvious). KD scored significantly more than Kawhi and on better efficiency. He was also a better passer and rebounder. Of course, Kawhi was the better defender without question, but KD was pretty good defensively as well.

Crawl back into your hole, kid.

EDIT: ****ed up the numbers a bit there. Corrected.
Damn

Up the ass :oldlol:

[HenryGarfunkle]

AutistischenWasser

[warriorfan]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12015935&postcount=43
"Might"

Weak prediction from a weak beta male

Figures

[aj1987]

You couldnt figure out I was talking about next round's game 6? :roll:
Keep back peddling, bitch. We're comparing KD vs Kawhi. Why in your minuscule mind did the thought pop up to bring up the WCF G6?


Unreal retardation.
Yeah, you should just stop posting and exposing your retardation to other.


Leads him in WS/48 as well.
Oh wow! WS, DWS (which is pretty much a part of WS), and an arbitrary WS/48. Good for him.


I had KD > KL for the season as well after the *WCSF, but KD threw all that away in the WCF... too bad.
Kawhi didn't even make the WCF, you retarded chipmunk. What does that make him? Dude choked hard AF against KD in the WCF.

Does your mom put post it notes all around your basement to remind you to breath? No one can possibly as retarded as you.