Am I the only one who thinks Brandon Ingram's talent is overrated?

[poido123]

I see a nice jump shot.

Couple of nice blocks using his length.


I don't know. Looks a bit uncoordinated with footwork and gangly.


What else?

[keep-itreal]

never heard of him

[fiddy]

He's barely 19 dude, give him time till he develops NBA body.

[brownmamba00]

Yes, you are

[salwan]

he has the body of a highschooler. give him 2years to build his body.

[ClipperRevival]

Dude just turned 19 less than 2 months ago. So he's pretty much a lanky, high schooler playing at the highest level. He is so far from being a finished product, it's just not right or fair to judge him right now. As long as he shows some flashes of brilliance, that's all that matters, like DRuss from last year.

On top of that, his demeanor is more laid back so he is willing to do whatever the coaches ask him to do, which is to come off the bench and just pick his spots and not throw a fit because he's not getting touches. His role will continue to increase as the season wears on and he becomes more confident and relaxed.

[BigKAT]

Dude just turned 19 less than 2 months ago. So he's pretty much a lanky, high schooler playing at the highest level. He is so far from being a finished product, it's just not right or fair to judge him right now. As long as he shows some flashes of brilliance, that's all that matters, like DRuss from last year.

On top of that, his demeanor is more laid back so he is willing to do whatever the coaches ask him to do, which is to come off the bench and just pick his spots and not throw a fit because he's not getting touches. His role will continue to increase as the season wears on and he becomes more confident and relaxed.

He could have a Giannis-esque improvement once he grows into his body.
Though he seems like he could be a much better offensive player.

[MMM]

Am i reaching for saying Jaylen Brown is a better prospect. He seems to have a better feel of the game on both ends and is far more athletic. Of course both are raw as hell right now and i wont front because i wanted BI at the time of the draft but his shooting isn't as natural as i first thought it was

[PJR]

Am i reaching for saying Jaylen Brown is a better prospect.

Yes. And a massive homer to boot.

[Ca$H]

Am i reaching for saying Jaylen Brown is a better prospect. He seems to have a better feel of the game on both ends and is far more athletic. Of course both are raw as hell right now and i wont front because i wanted BI at the time of the draft but his shooting isn't as natural as i first thought it was

Jaylen Brown = Jason Richardson.

[AirBonner]

Jaylen Brown = Jason Richardson.
More like Jimmy butler with a higher ceiling. Ingram will be fine. I don't think he has the drive to be a superstar like Jaylen has shown

[MMM]

Jaylen Brown = Jason Richardson.

Jayson Richardson before blowing out his Knee had a lot of potential and what exactly is Ingram comparison. All I can say is i've been surprised by JB's handling and passing ability because his feel is far more advanced than i thought was possible pre draft.

[CelticBaller]

Yes. And a massive homer to boot.
Other than a shot, what does Ingram have over Brown?

Browns potential>>>

[ClipperRevival]

Other than a shot, what does Ingram have over Brown?

Browns potential>>>

First off, I know nothing about Brown but going based purely by the measurable:

Ingram: 6'9.5" in shoes, 7'3" wingspan, 9'1.5" reach
Brown: 6'7" in shoes, 6'11.5" wingspan, 8'6.5" reach

Ingram is freakishly long. C type wingspan/reach. So we are talking about a different level of size difference.

[CelticBaller]

Brown is stronger quicker, faster and has a better motor.

Not only that you just mentioned his reach, dude can actually hang around at the 4

[ClipperRevival]

Brown is stronger quicker, faster and has a better motor.

Not only that you just mentioned his reach, dude can actually hang around at the 4

Saying he can play the 4 isn't saying much in today's small ball era. But like I said, I know nothing about Brown so I don't want to get into a "he's better than him" argument because I don't know all the facts.

[scm5]

Brown is stronger quicker, faster and has a better motor.

Not only that you just mentioned his reach, dude can actually hang around at the 4

Watch some games or at least some highlights. Ingram might be lanky but he actually plays very strong. He doesn't shy away from contact or bumps and I thought last night he was the Lakers best defender on Harden when he was on him.

I'm more high on his defensive impact than offensive at this point because I think he's a little too unselfish. He could very well develop into a Kawhi type player as they seem to have similar mindsets. He's been talking to Iguodala and getting pointers on defense. At his age, at that high a draft pick, and he's worried more about his defense than his offense. I think we got a good one.

[Dave3]

Length, shooting, athletic, can put the ball on the floor, can finish well (albeit less graceful than all star swing men) and 19 years old. I can definitely see him aso a future 25 ppg player on the league. What's there not to like about him? A 19 year old doesn't have good footwork yet? How many do though? Even someone like Durant had his footwork criticized on here as recent as 2010 when he was putting up 30 ppg.

Curious though if Lakers fans know why Walton was starting Nick Young and/or Dieng over him. Is the plan to work him into the starting lineup within the next 10-20 games?

[FreezingTsmoove]

Length, shooting, athletic, can put the ball on the floor, can finish well (albeit less graceful than all star swing men) and 19 years old. I can definitely see him aso a future 25 ppg player on the league. What's there not to like about him? A 19 year old doesn't have good footwork yet? How many do though? Even someone like Durant had his footwork criticized on here as recent as 2010 when he was putting up 30 ppg.

Curious though if Lakers fans know why Walton was starting Nick Young and/or Dieng over him. Is the plan to work him into the starting lineup within the next 10-20 games?

Walton is trying to turn Nick Young into Klay Thompson if you couldnt tell by all the 3pt shot jacking early on in the game

[AirTupac]

LOL Ingram is on a different world than Brown. Dude is already showing to be a good defender which is a surprise for a 19 year old ROOKIE. He is calm, collected and yesterday was handling the ball up the court and guarding James Harden in the 2nd half.

Dude is a legit star in the making.

[DaHeezy]

He's barely 19 dude, give him time till he develops NBA body.
He is compared to Durant yet Durant at 19 was light years ahead.

[TiagoSimoes]

He is compared to Durant yet Durant at 19 was light years ahead.

In terms of playing style, it is a good comparison, long as hell, can shoot and handle the ball really good for his size, possibly good/great defender cuz of size.
But in terms of quality, it was pretty obvious to pretty much everybody(aint conting laker homers) that KD was at a different level when he came to the NBA, and probably Ingram will never sniff KD's level. But the kid is really damm good, and as an OKC fan who knows that we aint fighting for the title no more, im really interested on following rookies/soph development, and Ingram is definetly on my watch list(along with Embiid, Dunn, Jaylen, DRuss, Myles Turnes and KAT).

[brownmamba00]

In terms of playing style, it is a good comparison, long as hell, can shoot and handle the ball really good for his size, possibly good/great defender cuz of size.
But in terms of quality, it was pretty obvious to pretty much everybody(aint conting laker homers) that KD was at a different level when he came to the NBA, and probably Ingram will never sniff KD's level. But the kid is really damm good, and as an OKC fan who knows that we aint fighting for the title no more, im really interested on following rookies/soph development, and Ingram is definetly on my watch list(along with Embiid, Dunn, Jaylen, DRuss, Myles Turnes and KAT).
Ingram will be a better defender thrn what KD ever was.

He won't be the same level of scorer but his ability to guard 1 to 4 will be scary good. already has great length to go with his defensive instincts. Kd is an average on ball defender.

[scm5]

Length, shooting, athletic, can put the ball on the floor, can finish well (albeit less graceful than all star swing men) and 19 years old. I can definitely see him aso a future 25 ppg player on the league. What's there not to like about him? A 19 year old doesn't have good footwork yet? How many do though? Even someone like Durant had his footwork criticized on here as recent as 2010 when he was putting up 30 ppg.

Curious though if Lakers fans know why Walton was starting Nick Young and/or Dieng over him. Is the plan to work him into the starting lineup within the next 10-20 games?

Deng is a former all-star vet and deserves the spot over Ingram, and it's good for the kid to have to earn the spot.

Young though, is taking JC's spot in the starting roster because of his supposed improvement in defense. He's still a chucker...

Like freezing said, Luke wants someone to fill the role of Klay. He's trying to do what happened with JR in Cleveland. Young is definitely no JR.

[Dave3]

Deng is a former all-star vet and deserves the spot over Ingram, and it's good for the kid to have to earn the spot.

Young though, is taking JC's spot in the starting roster because of his supposed improvement in defense. He's still a chucker...

Like freezing said, Luke wants someone to fill the role of Klay. He's trying to do what happened with JR in Cleveland. Young is definitely no JR.
I get that Deng has seniority and is a good player. I'm just thinking if you're rebuilding anyways, why not start the young guys with ridiculous potential. A backcourt of Russell, Clarkson with Ingram Randle and Mozgov in the front. Thats a lineup of 4 guys in their early 20s that can be a playoff team in 3 years and a contender in 5. Obviously though Luke knows what he's doing.

[scm5]

I get that Deng has seniority and is a good player. I'm just thinking if you're rebuilding anyways, why not start the young guys with ridiculous potential. A backcourt of Russell, Clarkson with Ingram Randle and Mozgov in the front. Thats a lineup of 4 guys in their early 20s that can be a playoff team in 3 years and a contender in 5. Obviously though Luke knows what he's doing.

Believe me, I'd love to see him run Russell, Clarkson, Ingram, Randle/Nance, and Zubac all day long but you can't have that when you're developing players. You need a veteran presence on the court to calm the young guys down and make sure they're running things properly.

I'm not sold on Deng being a vocal leader on that though, he doesn't seem to be a good fit at all and I wouldn't be surprised if he were traded soon.

[9erempiree]

He will be solid once he develops a NBA body. The likes of Durant and Anthony Davis look lanky and uncoordinated when they first entered the league.

With a little muscle he will put on a full blown assault on the league.

[fiddy]

He is compared to Durant yet Durant at 19 was light years ahead.
He has one game as a professional on his record, jesus

[scm5]

He is compared to Durant yet Durant at 19 was light years ahead.

No one is saying he's going to be KD, they're saying they play similarly and had similar skillsets. KD is way more aggressive when it comes to scoring and Ingram instead has taken it upon himself to improve defensively.

I think Ingram will be more like Kawhi than KD (no, I'm not saying he'll be as good, just similar). He'll be able to score, but won't force it or demand the ball. He'll play excellent defense though, especially with his length and mobility.

[Smoke117]

He will be solid once he develops a NBA body. The likes of Durant and Anthony Davis look lanky and uncoordinated when they first entered the league.

With a little muscle he will put on a full blown assault on the league.

Kevin Durant never looked uncoordinated and was much better than Ingram is at 19.

[Kawhi]

He has one game as a professional on his record, jesus
Kevin Durant led the nation in scoring and rebounding at that age.

[Nick Young]

Giannis with a jumpshot

[ball247]

Giannis with a jumpshot

He's not nearly as fluid or quick as giannis was nor does he have close to his ball handling skills or really his frame to pack on that muscle he carries now. That's what makes giannis unique. I don't see the comparison at all other then being tall and skinny, though Ingram is boney skinny ( Corey brewer skinny) Ben Simmons is a much better comparison to giannis.

Brandon Ingram is more of a rashard Lewis to me

[Bosnian Sajo]

Am i reaching for saying Jaylen Brown is a better prospect. He seems to have a better feel of the game on both ends and is far more athletic. Of course both are raw as hell right now and i wont front because i wanted BI at the time of the draft but his shooting isn't as natural as i first thought it was


Honestly, no.

I personally think Ingram is the better prospect, but an argument could be made for Jaylen Brown. He looks good to me.

[Bosnian Sajo]

He's not nearly as fluid or quick as giannis was nor does he have close to his ball handling skills or really his frame to pack on that muscle he carries now. That's what makes giannis unique. I don't see the comparison at all other then being tall and skinny, though Ingram is boney skinny ( Corey brewer skinny) Ben Simmons is a much better comparison to giannis.

Brandon Ingram is more of a rashard Lewis to me

Giannis wasn't built when he came into the league, either.

[miggyme1]

Honestly, no.

I personally think Ingram is the better prospect, but an argument could be made for Jaylen Brown. He looks good to me.


5 years now this will be the best draft class in NBA history. book it.

[ball247]

Giannis wasn't built when he came into the league, either.

Like I said, their frames weren't similar. Ingram is bones while giannis was had definition at the same age. He is corey brewer like. Giannis was also much more fluid then Ingram. Ingram doesn't quite have that explosiveness to him that giannis or Durant had