Iguodala cannot guard Kawhi but has no problem with Lebron

[JohnMax]

Lebron only plays well against Iguodala when there are no rim protectors behind him (Bogut and Green) while Kawhi always destroys him.

[lilteapot]

Nobody cares about what you think.

[Kawhi]

LeBron vs Iguodala: 29/7/7 on 51% shooting
Kawhi vs Iguodala: 17/7/2 on 54% shooting

[Aiolos]

When are people going to stop with this meme? Only reason LeBron had trouble with Iggy is because LeBron is already old. Where was Iggy when he was facing LeBron in 2011 in the first round? LeBron clown stopped all over him in 2011.

[Nilocon165]

Nobody cares about what you think.
I laughed harder at this than I should've :roll:

[Bankaii]

LeBron vs Iguodala: 29/7/7 on 51% shooting
Kawhi vs Iguodala: 17/7/2 on 54% shooting
Welp that's all folks.

[Prometheus]

Lebron only plays well against Iguodala when there are no rim protectors behind him (Bogut and Green) while Kawhi always destroys him.

LeBron vs. Iguodala - regular season
29/7/7 on .511 for his career

LeBron vs Iguodala - playoffs
30/12/8 on .447 for his career

Kawhi vs. Iguodala - regular season
17/7/2 on .540 for his career

Kawhi vs. Iguodala - playoffs
n/a

Stay losing my friend.

[Hoopz2332]

Lebron only plays well against Iguodala when there are no rim protectors behind him (Bogut and Green) while Kawhi always destroys him.


iggy cant guard lebron...

reg season

http://i.imgur.com/bT4jIpJ.png

playoffs

http://i.imgur.com/gxvolYk.png



vs


iggy and kahwi





http://i.imgur.com/5Oh9SK8.png

[Prometheus]

Chances OP posts again in this thread? I'm thinking zero.

[Spurs m8]

Classic autistic bot

[Hoopz2332]

Chances OP posts again in this thread? I'm thinking zero.


:lol

[CuhGetsBucks]

When a fan of the player shuts down the thread:facepalm

[SouBeachTalents]

TMZ getting shat on as always :oldlol:

[J Shuttlesworth]

Chances OP posts again in this thread? I'm thinking zero.
:lol

[J Shuttlesworth]

When are people going to stop with this meme? Only reason LeBron had trouble with Iggy is because LeBron is already old. Where was Iggy when he was facing LeBron in 2011 in the first round? LeBron clown stopped all over him in 2011.
What were LeBrons stats against Iggy in 2015 and 2016 finals?

[Prometheus]

What were LeBrons stats against Iggy in 2015 and 2016 finals?

2015: 36/13/8 on .398
2016: 30/11/9 on .494

way better than 2011 first round actually. hm.

[solar.hands]

Classic autistic bot
Is this the same JohnMax at ST?
Dumb guy gets clowned everywhere.

[ShawkFactory]

He blatantly has trouble guarding Lebron. What are you basing this on?

[J Shuttlesworth]

2015: 36/13/8 on .398
2016: 30/11/9 on .494

way better than 2011 first round actually. hm.
So he averaged more than Kawhis career high in 2015

[AintNoSunshine]

:oldlol:

Leonard gets 35 you made a thread. That's his fking career high, 35 points, a career high.

If Lebron gets 35 no one gives a sht. He has to score over 40 to barely impress.

[knicksman]

Lebron is always easy to guard. Theres a reason why he needed the refs

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Is this the same JohnMax at ST?
Dumb guy gets clowned everywhere.

:lol

[Jasper]

Lebron only plays well against Iguodala when there are no rim protectors behind him (Bogut and Green) while Kawhi always destroys him.
:coleman:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17907014/golden-state-warriors-forward-andre-iguodala-calls-cleveland-cavaliers-forward-lebron-james-nba-finals-block-great-play

[francesco totti]

Kawhi wouldnt make playoffs ( instead of bron) with that 2015 cavs team that played the finals.

[Papaya Petee]

Leonards career high is 35, Lebron averaged 36 versus Iggy in the 2015 finals alone...

[keep-itreal]

It's not that Kawhi and Iguodala can stop Lebron.

It's the fact that they had Tim Duncan and Andrew Bogut behind them that stops Lebron from going to the basket.

Once Bogut went down in the finals, Lebron went HAM on the Warriors

[AirBonner]

Op destroyed :lol

[Bigsmoke]

not even the biggest Spurs fans would never hype Kawhi up like that. It is only irrational LeBron haters who just want to say someone is better than him.

[LAZERUSS]

Leonards career high is 35, Lebron averaged 36 versus Iggy in the 2015 finals alone...

Kawhi took 21 FGAs in his 35 point game. His career HIGH in FGA in a game is 24.

The Jester AVERAGED 33 FGAs per GAME in the '15 Finals. Is it any wonder he averaged 35.8 ppg????

He was AWFUL in the '15 Finals. The worst shot-jacking Finals in NBA history. And much like his '14 Finals... ZERO IMPACT.

As for Iguadala. In the '15 Finals, LeCHOKE shot an overall .398 from the field. When Iggy was on the floor, he shot... get this... .351.

THEN, how about LePUKE's 4th quarters and OT in the '15 Finals? 21-59...or a .356 FG%. Hell, you tell me how the Cavs won game 2. LeShit shot 11-35 from the floor, which was just horrific, BUT, in the 4th quarter he shot his USUAL 2-8. The game then went into OT, where he shot his NORMAL 0-4. And yet, the Cavs WON that game.

Iguadala should have been a unanimous FMVP.

[RRR3]

Lozeruss furious LeBron is twice the playoff performer Ilt was :lol

[ClipperRevival]

Kawhi took 21 FGAs in his 35 point game. His career HIGH in FGA in a game is 24.

The Jester AVERAGED 33 FGAs per GAME in the '15 Finals. Is it any wonder he averaged 35.8 ppg????

He was AWFUL in the '15 Finals. The worst shot-jacking Finals in NBA history. And much like his '14 Finals... ZERO IMPACT.

As for Iguadala. In the '15 Finals, LeCHOKE shot an overall .398 from the field. When Iggy was on the floor, he shot... get this... .351.

THEN, how about LePUKE's 4th quarters and OT in the '15 Finals? 21-59...or a .356 FG%. Hell, you tell me how the Cavs won game 2. LeShit shot 11-35 from the floor, which was just horrific, BUT, in the 4th quarter he shot his USUAL 2-8. The game then went into OT, where he shot his NORMAL 0-4. And yet, the Cavs WON that game.

Iguadala should have been a unanimous FMVP.

:roll: Love his meltdown's.

[LAZERUSS]

:roll: Love his meltdown's.

You forgot the JESTER, as well.

[LAZERUSS]

Lozeruss furious LeBron is twice the playoff performer Ilt was :lol


The Jester has not even been HALF the dominant playoff performer Chamberlain was.

Hell, Wilt was able to DOMINATE the defending champion Bucks and a PEAK Kareem...with an 11 ppg series...


In the post-season, the Lakers swept the Chicago Bulls,[93] then went on to face the Milwaukee Bucks of young superstar center and regular-season MVP Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (formerly Lew Alcindor). The matchup between Chamberlain and Abdul-Jabbar was hailed by LIFE magazine as the greatest matchup in all of sports. Chamberlain would help lead the Lakers past Abdul-Jabbar and the Bucks in six games.[93] Particularly, Chamberlain was lauded for his performance in Game 6, which the Lakers won 104–100 after trailing by 10 points in the fourth quarter: he scored 24 points and 22 rebounds, played all 48 minutes and outsprinted the younger Bucks center on several late Lakers fast breaks.[94] Jerry West called it "the greatest ball-busting performance I have ever seen."[94] Chamberlain performed so well in the series that TIME magazine stated, "In the N.B.A.'s western division title series with Milwaukee, he (Chamberlain) decisively outplayed basketball's newest giant superstar, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, eleven years his junior."[

Meanwhile, LeCHOKE took his team down in flames in a Finals in which he averaged a WORTHLESS 35.8 ppg, all while shooting a horrific .398 from the floor, and was badly outplayed by a role player off the bench.

[RRR3]

No one in their right mind thinks Wilt is a better playoff performer than LeBron.




_ilt
:roll:

[LAZERUSS]

No one in their right mind thinks Wilt is a better playoff performer than LeBron.




_ilt
:roll:

Actually no one in their right mind would ever take LeCHOKE over Lord Chamberlain.

BTW, no other borderline Top-10 player, which is what LePUKE is, has ever had two worse Finals, than what the Jester gave us in '07 and '11. And again, his '14, and '15 Finals were WORTHLESS.

And, he can thank Ray and Kyrie for two of his three rings. Especially given his choke-jobs down the stretch of those games.

[bizil]

As many have already said, Leonard's CAREER HIGH is 35 points! So people need to pump their brakes! The good news is his scoring has improved every year. And his scoring skillset has gotten a lot better too! Last year, he was damn close to being a 50-40-90 guy. But with all that said, HE HASN'T PROVED he's a legit alpha dog AT LEAST YET! So people can't get carried away AND start overrating his scoring. He's only 25 and still growing as a player.

[Hey Yo]

The Jester has not even been HALF the dominant playoff performer Chamberlain was.

Hell, Wilt was able to DOMINATE the defending champion Bucks and a PEAK Kareem...with an 11 ppg series...



Meanwhile, LeCHOKE took his team down in flames in a Finals in which he averaged a WORTHLESS 35.8 ppg, all while shooting a horrific .398 from the floor, and was badly outplayed by a role player off the bench.
He played so well that he decided to let the rest of the starting 5 carry him.

He only made 19FG's and shot 44% from the line in a 6 game series.

Barely made 3FG's per game.........DOMINATION!!!

:roll:

[LAZERUSS]

He played so well that he decided to let the rest of the starting 5 carry him.

He only made 19FG's and shot 44% from the line in a 6 game series.

Barely made 3FG's per game.........DOMINATION!!!

:roll:


In the post-season, the Lakers swept the Chicago Bulls,[93] then went on to face the Milwaukee Bucks of young superstar center and regular-season MVP Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (formerly Lew Alcindor). The matchup between Chamberlain and Abdul-Jabbar was hailed by LIFE magazine as the greatest matchup in all of sports. Chamberlain would help lead the Lakers past Abdul-Jabbar and the Bucks in six games.[93] Particularly, Chamberlain was lauded for his performance in Game 6, which the Lakers won 104–100 after trailing by 10 points in the fourth quarter: he scored 24 points and 22 rebounds, played all 48 minutes and outsprinted the younger Bucks center on several late Lakers fast breaks.[94] Jerry West called it "the greatest ball-busting performance I have ever seen."[94] Chamberlain performed so well in the series that TIME magazine stated, "In the N.B.A.'s western division title series with Milwaukee, he (Chamberlain) decisively outplayed basketball's newest giant superstar, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, eleven years his junior."

Yes...DOMINATION.

Reminds me of Magic's domination in the post-season. Just like Wilt, he could beat you with a 40+ point Finals game, or beat you with a 10 point Finals game.

Meanwhile, the Jester shot-jacked his team down the toilet in a Finals in which he averaged 36 ppg, and was badly outplayed by a role player off the bench.

[BigKAT]

Five star thread :lol

[Hey Yo]

Yes...DOMINATION.

Meanwhile, the Jester shot-jacked his team down the toilet in a Finals in which he averaged 36 ppg, and was badly outplayed by a role player off the bench.
[QUOTE]In the post-season, the Lakers swept the Chicago Bulls,[93] then went on to face the Milwaukee Bucks of young superstar center and regular-season MVP Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (formerly Lew Alcindor). The matchup between Chamberlain and Abdul-Jabbar was hailed by LIFE magazine as the greatest matchup in all of sports. Chamberlain would help lead the Lakers past Abdul-Jabbar and the Bucks in six games.[93] Particularly, Chamberlain was lauded for his performance in Game 6, which the Lakers won 104

[RRR3]

Actually no one in their right mind would ever take LeCHOKE over Lord Chamberlain.

BTW, no other borderline Top-10 player, which is what LePUKE is, has ever had two worse Finals, than what the Jester gave us in '07 and '11. And again, his '14, and '15 Finals were WORTHLESS.

And, he can thank Ray and Kyrie for two of his three rings. Especially given his choke-jobs down the stretch of those games.
Make a thread asking ISH who's a better playoff performer then.

Oh wait you won't because you know you'll get laughed off the board :roll:

[SouBeachTalents]

Kawhi took 21 FGAs in his 35 point game. His career HIGH in FGA in a game is 24.

The Jester AVERAGED 33 FGAs per GAME in the '15 Finals. Is it any wonder he averaged 35.8 ppg????

He was AWFUL in the '15 Finals. The worst shot-jacking Finals in NBA history. And much like his '14 Finals... ZERO IMPACT.

As for Iguadala. In the '15 Finals, LeCHOKE shot an overall .398 from the field. When Iggy was on the floor, he shot... get this... .351.

THEN, how about LePUKE's 4th quarters and OT in the '15 Finals? 21-59...or a .356 FG%. Hell, you tell me how the Cavs won game 2. LeShit shot 11-35 from the floor, which was just horrific, BUT, in the 4th quarter he shot his USUAL 2-8. The game then went into OT, where he shot his NORMAL 0-4. And yet, the Cavs WON that game.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11499521&postcount=31


Iguadala should have been a unanimous FMVP.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11501681&postcount=31

[Kawhi]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11499521&postcount=31


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11501681&postcount=31
:roll:

[RRR3]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11499521&postcount=31


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11501681&postcount=31
R.I.P. Laz.

[ClipperRevival]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11499521&postcount=31


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11501681&postcount=31

:roll: Good ole'Laz.

[Prometheus]

Laz... you have turned yourself into such a laughingstock this summer. You were always a joke, but it's become quite severe.

[Lord P]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11499521&postcount=31


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11501681&postcount=31

Welp, thats a GG :roll:

[LAZERUSS]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11499521&postcount=31


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11501681&postcount=31

I already addressed the first one, but here goes...


BTW, I am sick-and-tired of these constant anti-Lebron threads you continue to plague this forum with.

Isolation? I could not care less. Lebron just faced the #1 defense in the league, and averaged a 36-13-8 on a .400 FG%. And he faced them with a complete collection of misfits that likely couldn't beat a middle school girls team. It was basically Lebron, and the "Three Stooges" (JR Smith, Deli, and Shumpert, who shot .312, .283, and .258 from the field respectively.)

Guess what, when Jordan faced the #1 defense in the league, in the Knicks in the '93 playoffs...

32.2 ppg on, guess what... a .400 FG%. And he did so with FAR greater personnel than what Lebron was saddled with in this year's Finals. Hell, that same exact Bulls roster, SANS Jordan, went 55-27 the very next season, and were a close and controversial game seven from beating a Knicks team that would lose a close game seven to the Rockets in the Finals.

So, please, don't tell us that Lebron's supporting cast in the '15 Finals was ANYWHERE NEAR the talent level of Jordan's STACKED supporting casts in the entire decade of the 90's.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...vs-knicks.html

How about MJ against the '87 Celtics...in yet another first round sweeping loss...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...s-celtics.html

35.7 ppg on a .417 FG%.

Now, you explain this to me...if Lebron could win two games against the 67-15 Warriors, and take them to the limit in two more...how come MJ couldn't win a single game against a slowly deteriorating '87 Celtic team that went 59-23, and was only the 4th best defense in the league?


How about Jordan in the '96 Finals, and the second best defense in the league?

27.3 ppg on a .415 FG%.

He sure as hell wasn't walking on water in those three series.


And BTW, I don't know of any intelligent poster here who ranks Lebron ahead of MJ. So, there is no need to CONSTANTLY start anti-Lebron topics.

EXACTLY. Jordan had his share of post-season flop jobs, as well. In fact, he was downright awful in the '96 Finals when he was defended by the Glove in the last three games.

It doesn't detract from the Jester's HORRIFIC '15 Finals. Again, .398 from the field, and a WAY WORSE, .351 from the field when defended by what should have been a UNANIMOUS FMVP in Iggy. Oh, and even WORSE .356 from the field in his 4th quarters and OT. Again, how in the hell did LePUKE's teammates carry him to a win game two, when LeCHOKE shot 11-35 from the field overall; 2-8 in the 4th quarter; and then 0-4 in OT? Think about that...his TEAMMATES were able to overcome the Jester's 2-12 from the floor in the 4th quarter and OT for a WIN.

Of course Shrinkage, as always, was downright pathetic in his 4th quarters and OT in the '15 Finals...shooting an over .356.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11501681&postcount=31


Easy. Blame the voters.

BTW, how does a player that puts up a 36-13-8 series lose to a guy who put up a 16-6-4 series?

I answered my own question.

Iggy DOMINATED LeCHOKE in the '15 Finals.

16-6-4 on a .588 TS% (LeClank was at .477 BTW.)

Iggy should have won a UNANIMOUS FMVP in '15.

[LAZERUSS]

You forgot to paste "citation needed" for the bolded part...:oldlol:

202pts > 65

33.6ppg > 10.8

76% from the FTL > 44%

Leading scorer for his team > 5th leading

Yeah......Wilt DOMINATED Kareem. Have another wine cooler, Chico.

http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,879093,00.html?iid=sr-link1


Again...TIME MAGAZINE :


Chamberlain performed so well in the series that TIME magazine stated, "In the N.B.A.'s western division title series with Milwaukee, he (Chamberlain) decisively outplayed basketball's newest giant superstar, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, eleven years his junior."[95


BTW, here was an article from the MILWAUKEE JOURNAL:


Kareem’s Image as Best Suffered in Buck Defeat
Bob Wolf
The Milwaukee Journal, April 24, 1972

When the Milwaukee Bucks won the National Basketball Association championship a year ago, there was talk that they had a dynasty in the making.

But their dynasty ended before it really began, and Kareem Abdul Jabbar’s reputation as the greatest center of all time was tarnished in the process.

Abdul-Jabbar failed to outplay either Nate Thurmond of the Golden State Warriors or Wilt Chamberlain of the Los Angeles Lakers in the playoffs, and his inability to contain Chamberlain finally made the difference in the Laker series that ended in disaster at the Arena Saturday

Matter of Muscle

In the first round series with the Warriors, Abdul-Jabbar outrebounded Thurmond 95-89, but was outscored, 127-114. The Bucks won the series, four games to one.

In the semifinal series with the Lakers, Abdul-Jabbar had a tremendous edge in scoring, 202-67, but was outrebounded, 116-105, and was outmuscled by a greater margin than that. He actually reached the point on occasion where he was intimidated by Chamberlain as he headed toward the basket, and who ever heard of the big Buck being intimidated?

The Lakers eliminated the Bucks in six games, and the turning point occurred, with the series tied 2-2, when Chamberlain took advantage of his tremendous advantage in weight and strength and began pushing Abdul-Jabbar around. Wilt is listed at 275 pounds but probably weighs 290, to Abdul-Jabbar’s 230.

Perhaps the best illustration of Abdul-Jabbar’s difficulties lay in his shooting averages. He shot .574 in the regular season but only .437 in the playoffs ― .405 against Thurmond and .457 against Chamberlain.

Because of the strong defensive work of his two veteran rivals, Abdul-Jabbar often was forced away from his favorite shooting positions. He took hook shots from 12 to 15 feet away instead of from 8 to 10, and sometimes he even resorted to 15 foot jump shots.

Keep It Up

As Chamberlain put it after the fifth game in Los Angeles, which the Lakers won, 115-90, “Tonight Kareem was taking jump shots. That’s something he doesn’t usually do, but I hope he keeps on doing it.”

Abdul-Jabbar took more jump shots Saturday as the Lakers ended the series with a 104-100 victory, and Bucks Coach Larry Costello said, “I don’t want Kareem taking 15 footers. You do that and you’re just not playing your game.”

But Chamberlain’s dominating presence obviously had much to do with Abdul-Jabbar’s change in tactics, and Wilt’s performance against the man who supposedly had usurped his title as king of the giants must have been one of the most satisfying of his long career.

More...

http://www.nba.com/history/season/19711972.html


The Lakers swept Chicago four straight and defeated Milwaukee in six games as Chamberlain outdueled Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. New York defeated Baltimore and surprising Boston in the Eastern Conference Playoffs, but without Willis Reed in the Finals, proved no match for the Lakers, who got finally got their Championship in five games.

Of course, holding a PEAK Kareem to an overall .457 FG%, in a season in which he had shot .574 against the NBA was THE reason. Not only that, but Chamberlain held KAJ to a .414 FG% in the last four pivotal games, and was knocking the "unblockable" sky hook all over the gym.

[egokiller]

When are people going to stop with this meme? Only reason LeBron had trouble with Iggy is because LeBron is already old. Where was Iggy when he was facing LeBron in 2011 in the first round? LeBron clown stopped all over him in 2011.

Iggy is 32 years old. Lebron is 30.

Sorry, try again later.

[SouBeachTalents]

I already addressed the first one, but here goes...



EXACTLY. Jordan had his share of post-season flop jobs, as well. In fact, he was downright awful in the '96 Finals when he was defended by the Glove in the last three games.

It doesn't detract from the Jester's HORRIFIC '15 Finals. Again, .398 from the field, and a WAY WORSE, .351 from the field when defended by what should have been a UNANIMOUS FMVP in Iggy. Oh, and even WORSE .356 from the field in his 4th quarters and OT. Again, how in the hell did LePUKE's teammates carry him to a win game two, when LeCHOKE shot 11-35 from the field overall; 2-8 in the 4th quarter; and then 0-4 in OT? Think about that...his TEAMMATES were able to overcome the Jester's 2-12 from the floor in the 4th quarter and OT for a WIN.

Of course Shrinkage, as always, was downright pathetic in his 4th quarters and OT in the '15 Finals...shooting an over .356.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11501681&postcount=31



I answered my own question.

Iggy DOMINATED LeCHOKE in the '15 Finals.

16-6-4 on a .588 TS% (LeClank was at .477 BTW.)

Iggy should have won a UNANIMOUS FMVP in '15.

So delusional :roll:

[ArbitraryWater]

So delusional :roll:

I remember him talking about LeBron's legendary finals back in 2015, how he carried Knicks losers and what not to 6 games... I'll find those posts when I'm home lol