Curry and Klay are system players

[JohnMax]

They can't score without a good rim roller on the floor.

[Orlando Magic]

To the extent that they have both been hailed as being so damn great, especially with Curry winning 2 MVPs, this is true.

However, Curry is better than that. He truly has elevated his offensive game to an amazing level because his shot is so incredible. System or no his shot is all time great level.

Right now he's both overrated by those who jock him and underrated by pretty much everyone else. It's weird.

Klay is just... expendable... because of Durant.

[J Shuttlesworth]

To the extent that they have both been hailed as being so damn great, especially with Curry winning 2 MVPs, this is true.

However, Curry is better than that. He truly has elevated his offensive game to an amazing level because his shot is so incredible. System or no his shot is all time great level.

Right now he's both overrated by those who jock him and underrated by pretty much everyone else. It's weird.

Klay is just... expendable... because of Durant.
Is Klay really expendable? Who was it that dropped 40 against OKC in game 6 last year to save the Warriors season?

[Orlando Magic]

Is Klay really expendable? Who was it that dropped 40 against OKC in game 6 last year to save the Warriors season?

Klay and Durant and Curry's talents overlap too much. One probably will need to go at some point unless they are EASILY a top 2 seed in the West.

That's not to say that they don't all have individual varying traits... of course they do. But imo three star perimeter players is too much when you have such a gaping absence in the paint and on the bench.

Curry is a 2x MVP. He's not going anywhere.
Durant was just signed. Not going anywhere.

Klay is the odd man out. I think it'll get to the point that something will have to change... beit Klay coming off the bench or getting traded or whatever.

[BeastMode24]

Curry is the system. his gravity effect is why the rest of the team is always getting wide open shots.

[Orlando Magic]

Curry is the system.

He might be the most important part but that is so far from the truth. Game 1 showed that much beyond question.

[warriorfan]

Curry is the system. his gravity effect is why the rest of the team is always getting wide open shots.
Yes

[Artillery]

Curry is the system. his gravity effect is why the rest of the team is always getting wide open shots.

Too bad that system collapses when it's time to play in the Finals.

[Spurs m8]

Oh look at JohnMax, now he's on the Durant high horse, ready to throw the rest of the Warriors under the bus now.

Bloke/bot just can't stay put on one wagon

[Spurs m8]

The Warriors can't win the title with this current roster, not enough depth at all, way too top heavy.
Too many holes.

Shit is going to need to be tweaked by trade deadline.

And will be, we'll see what they do...

[tpols]

Klay is the odd man out. I think it'll get to the point that something will have to change... beit Klay coming off the bench or getting traded or whatever.


as far as curry, durant, and klay's talents overlapping, it is really curry and durant who overlap the most. Klay loves to play pure off ball, off screens, back door cut, post 1 dribble or so if he has mismatch... curry is the one who likes to handle the ball more which is what KD is all about. so if anything it is steph that is redundant with KD, not klay.

[Old Man River]

The Warriors can't win the title with this current roster, not enough depth at all, way too top heavy.
Too many holes.

Shit is going to need to be tweaked by trade deadline.

And will be, we'll see what they do...
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they need to not allow handcheckin in pla

[imdaman99]

Nah, they just have to adapt to Durant... it's not the other way around. I guess he is the new blood there, they have to do everything to make him feel comfortable. This means Curry and Klay shoot less.

[Kawhi Not?]

They can't score without a good rim roller on the floor.


HAHAHA what?:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[DCL]

trade klay for an inside force

[Cozz]

Nah, they just have to adapt to Durant... it's not the other way around. I guess he is the new blood there, they have to do everything to make him feel comfortable. This means Curry and Klay shoot less.

That means Curry and Klay aren't being 100% utilised. GS had the perfect setup. 3 great players who didn't get in the way of each other. Curry with the ball, Klay playing off ball and Dray doing the dirty work. All 3 were maxing their potential. Now it's all out of whack. And they needed to let their bigs and important bench players go to do it.

The answer wasn't to get Durant OR resign Barns (not at anywhere near max), and just bolster what they had. If not for injuries and the suspension they probably would have had it last year. They didn't need to over react.

[theaussieguy]

they are basically playing how westbrook and durant played right now. Getting by on pure talent alone and not enough flow

[GimmeThat]

like, I'm going to give up my life for a few points on the court and translate into awards system players?

[ArbitraryWater]

Klay and Durant and Curry's talents overlap too much. One probably will need to go at some point unless they are EASILY a top 2 seed in the West.

That's not to say that they don't all have individual varying traits... of course they do. But imo three star perimeter players is too much when you have such a gaping absence in the paint and on the bench.

Curry is a 2x MVP. He's not going anywhere.
Durant was just signed. Not going anywhere.

Klay is the odd man out. I think it'll get to the point that something will have to change... beit Klay coming off the bench or getting traded or whatever.

the talents dont overlap at all.. stop this stupid shit

[Orlando Magic]

as far as curry, durant, and klay's talents overlapping, it is really curry and durant who overlap the most. Klay loves to play pure off ball, off screens, back door cut, post 1 dribble or so if he has mismatch... curry is the one who likes to handle the ball more which is what KD is all about. so if anything it is steph that is redundant with KD, not klay.

You're correct, but as I said, Durant is new and Curry is the reigning MVP... hence my point.

[Orlando Magic]

the talents dont overlap at all.. stop this stupid shit

They do. Especially Curry and Durant. They both need to be primary ball handlers to be their most effective selves. They're also all primarily shooters first and foremost. You don't need 3 max guys spotting up on the perimeter 2 of which go 1 on 1 on the regular.

A team is greater than the sum of its parts.

The Warriors would be better off without Durant or without Klay and in terms of optimization... they'd be better off without Durant.

I've said it before and I'll say it again... Durant does not offer this team anything that it NEEDS that Barnes did not with the exception being that Durant can be on the floor when Curry is not and thus they always have one or the other in the game.

What do they need from Durant?

Creating a shot for others? No. Curry will do that better. Thus Durant is a detraction.
Ball handling? No. Curry will do that better. Thus Durant is a detraction.
Post offense? Eh. That reduces what makes them special. Ball movement and open shots.
Post defense? No. Barnes was equal or better and they coughed up Bogut.
Spot up shooting? Please eh? We going to reduce Durant to spot up shooter? No.

Make no mistake... I think Durant is a better player than Curry and the best Warriors player overall but I just can't continue to stress it enough... he doesn't really offer Golden State anything that they NEED that upgrades their TEAM'S EFFECTIVENESS. If their roster remained identical to last year's team except you just straight up replaced Barnes with Durant, maybe the Warriors get 74 or 75 wins. MAYBE. Is that worth giving up Bogut, Barbosa, Festus, & Barnes? No.

That being said, the sky isn't falling... the Warriors are more than ok. The Warriors are still going to be an elite team that wins 60+ games and they are going to get it figured out without question, but they have not upgraded their roster with the addition of Durant and the subtraction of the others.

So it begs the question... how do they improve the roster from here? The easy answer from a logical perspective as to how this could possibly play out would be to move Klay and I personally would argue that would be a mistake. But again, there's 0% chance that Durant or Curry are getting dealt. Never in a million years, this season.

You're a dumbass if you think that all of the three guy's talents are unique and complimentary to one another as a trio.

[Jasper]

Curry and Klay are system players

:confusedshrug:

Go down the court and shoot a 35 footer , when the rest of the team is trying to setup :no: