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Dr Seuss
10-31-2016, 06:39 PM
https://streamable.com/28n0

on defense? lulz

CuterThanRubio
10-31-2016, 06:49 PM
He's definitely not anywhere near as good as Wiggins

PeroAntic
10-31-2016, 09:03 PM
hes better than Wiggins offensively. but poor defender

Mike smith
10-31-2016, 09:31 PM
hes better than Wiggins offensively. but poor defender
Your kidding when you say he's better than Wiggins offensively right?? Wiggins averaged over 20 pts last season and will average 22-26 ppg this year. Let me know when Parker does that

FireDavidKahn
10-31-2016, 10:09 PM
hes better than Wiggins offensively. but poor defender
:biggums:

CuhGetsBucks
10-31-2016, 10:31 PM
:biggums:
Why are yall acting like this is blasphemous? Wiggy has a way higher usage rate and his assist to turnover ratio is horrific. Give Bari the touches Wiggins gets and he'll put up similar #s. Tony Wroten even once averaged 17 ppg, stop acting like that dictates who's a better scorer.

FireDavidKahn
10-31-2016, 10:37 PM
Why are yall acting like this is blasphemous? Wiggy has a way higher usage rate and his assist to turnover ratio is horrific. Give Bari the touches Wiggins gets and he'll put up similar #s. Tony Wroten even once averaged 17 ppg, stop acting like that dictates who's a better scorer.
LOL.

Parker has an average PER36 PPG of 15.8...compared to 19.1 for Wiggins.

Wiggins has a higher career PER despite his awful APG and RPG.

Both have the same TS% except Wiggins had a higher TS% last year than Parker's career and this year Wiggins is even better.

Wiggins is way, way, WAY better at drawing fouls.

Wiggins wins again in career 3P% AND FT%

Wiggins is also clutch as ****

Parker aint close to Wiggins as an offensive player yet.

ralph_i_el
10-31-2016, 10:45 PM
LOL.

Parker has an average PER36 PPG of 15.8...compared to 19.1 for Wiggins.

Wiggins has a higher career PER despite his awful APG and RPG.

Both have the same TS% except Wiggins had a higher TS% last year than Parker's career and this year Wiggins is even better.

Wiggins is way, way, WAY better at drawing fouls.

Wiggins wins again in career 3P% AND FT%

Wiggins is also clutch as ****

Parker aint close to Wiggins as an offensive player yet.

Parker has a great floor game though. Passing counts.

FireDavidKahn
10-31-2016, 10:48 PM
Parker has a great floor game though. Passing counts.
Sure, but Wiggins is still superior as of right now.

PeroAntic
10-31-2016, 10:51 PM
Jabari has got so much more variety and skill in his game. Way more polished offensively than Wiggins.

If Bucks played more through Jabari he would be easily better than Wiggins. lol at comparing their performances this year (they played two games). Jabari has half of the shots Wiggins has per game. He assists and rebounds more.

As I said only weakness Jabari is defense. he needs to become a better two way player.

FireDavidKahn
10-31-2016, 10:53 PM
Jabari has got so much more variety and skill in his game. Way more polished offensively than Wiggins.

If Bucks played more through Jabari he would be easily better than Wiggins. lol at comparing their performances this year (they played two games). Jabari has half of the shots Wiggins has per game. He assists and rebounds more.

As I said only weakness Jabari is defense. he needs to become a better two way player.
:sleeping

I compared their entire careers for 99% of my post:sleeping

CuterThanRubio
10-31-2016, 11:03 PM
Jabari has got so much more variety and skill in his game. Way more polished offensively than Wiggins.

If Bucks played more through Jabari he would be easily better than Wiggins. lol at comparing their performances this year (they played two games). Jabari has half of the shots Wiggins has per game. He assists and rebounds more.

As I said only weakness Jabari is defense. he needs to become a better two way player.

Then why isn't he posting better numbers or having a similar impact on his teams performances on a nightly basis?

If he was so good they would be facilitating their offense through him, right?

Wiggins is shooting 50 and 40, Jabari is shooting 40 and 30

Higher efficiency on greater volume, explain that?

Wiggins is better than JaBummy Parker and always will be, end of story.

Injury prone, averaging 2 assists yet he is a great passer all of a sudden, give it a rest!

Jasper
10-31-2016, 11:57 PM
Plumlee is not doing his job , boards, and low post defense , besides weak side defense.
No excuse for Parker , but he needs help.
Giannis is always out on the perimeter, so low post defense is left up to Plumlee, and Parker.
Parker sometimes is playing a SF on wing , or a stretch PF...

Bucks are going no where , unless they shore up their defense.

They can not out score the league, even though they are better than last year.

It starts with the coach.

JohnMax
11-01-2016, 01:46 AM
Wiggins has better career (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&hint=Andrew+Wiggins&player_id1_select=Andrew+Wiggins&player_id1=wiggian01&hint=Jabari+Parker&player_id2_select=Jabari+Parker&player_id2=parkeja01) stats and is outplaying him this (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&hint=Andrew+Wiggins&player_id1_select=Andrew+Wiggins&y1=2017&player_id1=wiggian01&hint=Jabari+Parker&player_id2_select=Jabari+Parker&y2=2017&player_id2=parkeja01) season.

PeroAntic
11-01-2016, 08:46 AM
Then why isn't he posting better numbers or having a similar impact on his teams performances on a nightly basis?
You should ask Jason Kidd that. he is the one limiting Jabari's role.

Jabari's offensive repertoire is miles ahead of anything Wiggins can do. Last season was the first after a busted knee for him, basically rookie season. of course he took it slow first. then exploded after allstar. Hed be even better if he's made center piece. The guy is basically mix of Melo and Blake.

Stats dont mean shit to people who can see ability

CuhGetsBucks
11-01-2016, 08:59 AM
You should ask Jason Kidd that. he is the one limiting Jabari's role.

Jabari's offensive repertoire is miles ahead of anything Wiggins can do. Last season was the first after a busted knee for him, basically rookie season. of course he took it slow first. then exploded after allstar. Hed be even better if he's made center piece. The guy is basically mix of Melo and Blake.

Stats dont mean shit to people who can see ability
ISH is full of mfs who use advanced stats to show their high school coaches why they should be starting. If you don't use advanced stats your arguments are not held with value.

Milbuck
11-01-2016, 09:09 AM
You should ask Jason Kidd that. he is the one limiting Jabari's role.

Jabari's offensive repertoire is miles ahead of anything Wiggins can do. Last season was the first after a busted knee for him, basically rookie season. of course he took it slow first. then exploded after allstar. Hed be even better if he's made center piece. The guy is basically mix of Melo and Blake.

Stats dont mean shit to people who can see ability
Jason Kidd is a straight retard who has no idea what he's doing, the guy literally told Jabari not to shoot jumpers all of last year and now Jabari has a mental block when it comes to shooting. It's helped his inside game a lot but now he's overthinking things like crazy.

The skill-set is all there though, which is why it's frustrating as hell. Every now and then he'll bust out the smoothest crossover stepback jumper and you'll wonder why he doesn't do it all the time, then the next possession he'll pass up a wide open 3...and you remember it's because he's been mindf*cked by that moron Kidd.

Jabari's talents are being wasted away in Milwaukee, either he's going to go to a different team and flourish, or we're finally going to fire Kidd and get a coach who knows how to use his talent. I hope it's the latter.

FireDavidKahn
11-01-2016, 10:10 AM
I Just love the old potential vs. Actual production argument.

Classic

MMM
11-01-2016, 11:43 AM
that 2014 draft is looking weak as hell. Embiid missed 2 seasons and already looks like out classing the rest of the draft

kurple
11-01-2016, 11:53 AM
LOL.

Parker has an average PER36 PPG of 15.8...compared to 19.1 for Wiggins.

Wiggins has a higher career PER despite his awful APG and RPG.

Both have the same TS% except Wiggins had a higher TS% last year than Parker's career and this year Wiggins is even better.

Wiggins is way, way, WAY better at drawing fouls.

Wiggins wins again in career 3P% AND FT%

Wiggins is also clutch as ****

Parker aint close to Wiggins as an offensive player yet.no mention of usage rate?

And lol @ using career stats to compare these two, how long have they been in the league? 2 years?

mentallooser
11-01-2016, 11:58 AM
Hard to guage. He hasn't managed to be both healthy, and in mid-season form at the same one yet.

FireDavidKahn
11-01-2016, 01:20 PM
no mention of usage rate?

And lol @ using career stats to compare these two, how long have they been in the league? 2 years?
That's the only thing you can use:sleeping

Same efficiency on much higher usage plays in favor of Wiggins anyway.

ralph_i_el
11-01-2016, 04:55 PM
You should ask Jason Kidd that. he is the one limiting Jabari's role.

Jabari's offensive repertoire is miles ahead of anything Wiggins can do. Last season was the first after a busted knee for him, basically rookie season. of course he took it slow first. then exploded after allstar. Hed be even better if he's made center piece. The guy is basically mix of Melo and Blake.

Stats dont mean shit to people who can see ability

^This

Wiggins is an athletic freak. He can jump over anyone and shoot over everyone. Outside of that...What is he good at? He doesn't have the handle to consistently get to the rim in the half-court. Jabari can do more with the ball in his hand.

Plus, Rubio inflates everyone's stats. Few people are better set-up men in the league over the last few years.

Human Error
11-01-2016, 05:37 PM
Jabari Parker has been one of the worst defenders in the NBA since he joined the league. Unless he performs really great on offense, he is a net negative. And his offense isn't great.

And to idiots who say Parker has a better offensive game than Wiggins: Are you freakin' out of your mind or are you just freakin' dumb?

FireDavidKahn
11-01-2016, 05:39 PM
^This

Wiggins is an athletic freak. He can jump over anyone and shoot over everyone. Outside of that...What is he good at? He doesn't have the handle to consistently get to the rim in the half-court. Jabari can do more with the ball in his hand.

Plus, Rubio inflates everyone's stats. Few people are better set-up men in the league over the last few years.
Wiggins has better stats when Rubio is OFF the floor and Wiggins can get to the rim just fine.

FireDavidKahn
11-01-2016, 05:45 PM
https://youtu.be/WBu91DTwHcA?t=1m37s

Starting here in the Kings game he basically gets to the paint at will.

FireDavidKahn
11-01-2016, 05:49 PM
It's also funny, despite the claim that Parker can handle the ball better...he has a higher TO% than Wiggins.:lol

PeroAntic
11-01-2016, 05:50 PM
I'd say jabari is even more athletic than Wiggings, faster in the open court and more explosive. on top of having simply better moves and skill.

His defense is bad, that I agree with. He should be much better

CuterThanRubio
11-01-2016, 06:49 PM
I'd say jabari is even more athletic than Wiggings, faster in the open court and more explosive. on top of having simply better moves and skill.

His defense is bad, that I agree with. He should be much better

Throwing out incredulous statements from the jump, great way to start your new account!

Wiggins has the highest "usable" vertical in the league and is untouchable on the break

Parker can't finish over bigs

You want to talk about the eye test, Wiggins is hitting the J right now and got robbed of multiple assists in the first 2 games, (I watched every minute of both)

If Parker was as good as him he would be getting the ball at a similar rate, Kidd isn't that stupid, Parker will forever be a 2nd or 3rd option, a borderline allstar at his peak

Hey Yo
11-01-2016, 09:15 PM
Parker throwing it down tonight

https://vine.co/v/5DzX6vPWlrw