KD: "I Love Russ"

[CuhGetsBucks]

http://http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2673422-kevin-durant-comments-on-relationship-with-russell-westbrook
[QUOTE] "I love Russ," Durant told Slater. "I don

[Nilocon165]

Lmaoooo I Hate This ****in Dude

Westbrook Is Gonna Refuse To Shake This Dudes Hand, Dunk On Him, Then Commit The First Flgarant 3 Foul In The History Of Basketball.

[Uncle Drew]

That's cute man, that's cute.

[r0drig0lac]

:facepalm

[RoseCity07]

Wait didn't he say something like "we were never that close"? This doesn't make sense.

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

Lmaoooo I Hate This ****in Dude

Westbrook Is Gonna Refuse To Shake This Dudes Hand, Dunk On Him, Then Commit The First Flgarant 3 Foul In The History Of Basketball.


Is that what you're wishing that happens?

:lol :lol


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[Nilocon165]

Is that what you're wishing that happens?

:lol :lol


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I mean, yeah.

Everyone NBA fan aside from the Warriors fanbase DEFINITELY wants to see that happen.

[qrich]

Wait didn't he say something like "we were never that close"? This doesn't make sense.

Dude's bi-polar as ****.

I can legit see Durant pulling out a handgun in the middle of a game.

[!@#$%Vectors!@#]

I mean, yeah.

Everyone NBA fan aside from the Warriors fanbase DEFINITELY wants to see that happen.

It won't Happen. Russ is going to Jump Ship the second his contract ends and his athleticism begins to decline. Bran Jumped Ship Twice and you Stan him. Yes, KD is kind of Bi tch made but you can't act like there isnt a player you know that didn't do what he did twice.


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[Nilocon165]

It won't Happen. Russ is going to Jump Ship the second his contract ends and his athleticism begins to decline. Bran Jumped Ship Twice and you Stan him. Yes, KD is kind of Bi tch made but you can't act like there isnt a player you know that didn't do what he did twice.


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I am not a Lebron stan.

Anymore at least...

I've always been a cavs fan but having to defend lebron so much after the 2015 finals just kind of naturally made me like him more and I talked shit to people after he would put up great performances.

But yeah just a cavs fan.

[lilteapot]

Can this guy just shut the hell up already? Hasn't anyone from the Warriors told him this? Then again, looking at how the other players are, I guess not.

[Doranku]

KD literally is 2011 Bron. Jumping ship to join a superteam, saying dumb shit nonstop to the media. I hope he caps off the performance with a 2011 Bron-esque finals.

[MrFonzworth]

Westbrook Is Gonna Refuse To Shake This Dudes Hand, Dunk On Him, Then Commit The First Flgarant 3 Foul In The History Of Basketball.

:oldlol: :oldlol: Flagrant 3, gonna have to dropkick him when he drives in :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Bankaii]

Lmaoooo I Hate This ****in Dude

Westbrook Is Gonna Refuse To Shake This Dudes Hand, Dunk On Him, Then Commit The First Flgarant 3 Foul In The History Of Basketball.
I laughed way harder at this than I should have.:roll:

[Nick Young]

Dude's bi-polar as ****.

I can legit see Durant pulling out a handgun in the middle of a game.
mindgames

[Smoke117]

KD literally is 2011 Bron. Jumping ship to join a superteam, saying dumb shit nonstop to the media. I hope he caps off the performance with a 2011 Bron-esque finals.

Another moronic Kobe stan equating What Lebron did to Durant joining the Warriors...don't you guys ever get tired of saying stupid shit?

[tpols]

Another moronic Kobe stan equating What Lebron did to what Durant did...don't you guys ever get tired of saying stupid shit?


just because what lebron did was worse, they cant be compared .. ?


that doesnt make sense, smoke.

[D-Wait]

damage control :oldlol: :oldlol:

[lilteapot]

Funny he says this days before he has to play him what a *****

[Prometheus]

just because what lebron did was worse, they cant be compared .. ?


that doesnt make sense, smoke.

:facepalm

[SouBeachTalents]

just because what lebron did was worse, they cant be compared .. ?


that doesnt make sense, smoke.

:roll: There's literally no argument for LeBron's move to Miami being worse than Durant's

[Prometheus]

Kevin Durant is terrible at projecting himself publicly. He has a knack for doing and saying exactly what will make his image worse. He is like a little child in that way.

[Wally450]

:roll: There's literally no argument for LeBron's move to Miami being worse than Durant's

In b4 warriorfan copy and paste about PER from Lebron Wade and Bosh during the 2010 season.

[GimmeThat]

would be odd if kids say "yea, I grew up watching how KD plays, and really wanted to play like him"

unfortunately, KD isn't 6'4", fastest runner in the league, and a bruiser with that weight to wingspan ratio.

[nathanjizzle]

KD the ultimate beta.

[Big164]

Lebron's decision in 2010 was just as bad from a collusion standpoint. PEr don't lie.

What makes KD "appear" worse is how he hid under his bed for a week, ducked westbrook for 3 months, and waits literally hours before the game to say something positive...which was totally disingenuous cuz "I luv Russ" sounds like something a Mitch would say to avoid getting stabbed.

[J Shuttlesworth]

just because what lebron did was worse, they cant be compared .. ?


that doesnt make sense, smoke.
This dude really dove off the deep end after being one of the more sensible kobe stans for years. 2016 finals really ruined some people:lol

[Captvic]

Dude's bi-polar as ****.

I can legit see Durant pulling out a handgun in the middle of a game.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[AintNoSunshine]

Durant might just be the single most beta dude I have ever seen. He reeks insecurity with every word he spits, and is having an identity crisis in front of the world after he pulled literally the weakest move in sports history.

[Doranku]

Another moronic Kobe stan equating What Lebron did to Durant joining the Warriors...don't you guys ever get tired of saying stupid shit?
:oldlol: As if there's much difference between joining up with Steph/Klay/Draymond compared to prime Wade/Bosh in the atrocious East.

[Prometheus]

:oldlol: As if there's much difference between joining up with Steph/Klay/Draymond compared to prime Wade/Bosh in the atrocious East.

The difference is not quality of players - even though that argument is still heavily in favor of Durant's move being worse... the fact is that LeBron had never played against Wade or Bosh in the playoffs... or even the Heat franchise. Durant literally joined forces with the team that beat him like a month earlier. They stopped him from getting to the finals, so he joined them. How the fk do you not see how much worse that is?

[Doranku]

The difference is not quality of players - even though that argument is still heavily in favor of Durant's move being worse... the fact is that LeBron had never played against Wade or Bosh in the playoffs... or even the Heat franchise. Durant literally joined forces with the team that beat him like a month earlier. They stopped him from getting to the finals, so he joined them. How the fk do you not see how much worse that is?

So it would've been okay if OKC had lost in the second round to the Spurs and hadn't met GS in the playoffs?

Great logic. :oldlol:

[ArbitraryWater]

:oldlol: As if there's much difference between joining up with Steph/Klay/Draymond compared to prime Wade/Bosh in the atrocious East.

:facepalm

Kobe turds back at it

Can we not get rid of these shits? :oldlol:

[Doranku]

AutisticWater and the Bron Brigade of 16 year old losers who eat their lunch alone in the bathroom can't handle the truth. :(

[tpols]

The difference is not quality of players - even though that argument is still heavily in favor of Durant's move being worse... the fact is that LeBron had never played against Wade or Bosh in the playoffs... or even the Heat franchise. Durant literally joined forces with the team that beat him like a month earlier. They stopped him from getting to the finals, so he joined them. How the fk do you not see how much worse that is?


you're arguing from a narrative based position. from a competition based position what Bron did was worse because ..


A) Dwayne Wade is signifigantly better than anybody on the Warriors

and

B) 2016 West features far more top end talent and flat out better squads than 2011 East .. (Kawhi, Westbrook, Paul, Davis, Harden, Griffin, Cousins, Lilliard >>> Rose, Rondo, Dwight, Amare, Horford, Joe Johnson, old KG etc)



so if you're strictly talking basketball, and how stacked the odds are against both squads.. it's not a question as to who disrupted the balance of power more and formed the stronger monopoly relative to their environments.


all you have is a storyline..

[SouBeachTalents]

you're arguing from a narrative based position. from a competition based position what Bron did was worse because ..


A) Dwayne Wade is signifigantly better than anybody on the Warriors

and

B) 2016 West features far more top end talent and flat out better squads than 2011 East .. (Kawhi, Westbrook, Paul, Davis, Harden, Griffin, Cousins, Lilliard >>> Rose, Rondo, Dwight, Amare, Horford, Joe Johnson, old KG etc)



so if you're strictly talking basketball, and how stacked the odds are against both squads.. it's not a question as to who disrupted the balance of power more and formed the stronger monopoly relative to their environments.


all you have is a storyline..

Wade is not SIGNIFICANTLY better than Curry, that's a gross exaggeration. Better? Yes, significantly so, no. Plus LeBron joined one fellow all star compared to Durant joining two & a FMVP, with a much better bench to boot

[SCdac]

KD has been in full damage control since joining GSW

At this point, I bet Durant is so emotionally fragile and wanting to be liked that he subconsciously would not be angry if they lost this year just to turn around and say "See! I didn't join a super team!"

That's exactly how he felt

[antonAC]

I irony of the Durant haters moaning is that they also spend most of their time going on about how Curry is massively over-rated and there are several point guards in the league better than him, Draymond is just a hack, Iggy is too old and everyone else is trash.

also, Westbrook is the GOAT and heir-apparent to the MVP.

I mean, if any of this was true you should be commending him for taking on a challenge when he was already playing with a better team.

[Doranku]

Wade is not SIGNIFICANTLY better than Curry, that's a gross exaggeration. Better? Yes, significantly so, no. Plus LeBron joined one fellow all star compared to Durant joining two & a FMVP, with a much better bench to boot

Obviously GS has a better overall team than the Heat did, but they actually have competition in their Conference unlike the Heat.

[J Shuttlesworth]

The difference is not quality of players - even though that argument is still heavily in favor of Durant's move being worse... the fact is that LeBron had never played against Wade or Bosh in the playoffs... or even the Heat franchise. Durant literally joined forces with the team that beat him like a month earlier. They stopped him from getting to the finals, so he joined them. How the fk do you not see how much worse that is?
It's that and the fact that the team had already proved they can win a championship without him, and just won 73 games the season before

[Rocketswin2013]

you're arguing from a narrative based position. from a competition based position what Bron did was worse because ..


A) Dwayne Wade is signifigantly better than anybody on the Warriors



No...just no.

[Smoke117]

Obviously GS has a better overall team than the Heat did, but they actually have competition in their Conference unlike the Heat.

You realize the Celtics big three prompted the move, right? Oh wait...I forgot, you kobe stans don't use any logic when it comes to hating on Lebron. (or much in regards to anything frankly)

[J Shuttlesworth]

:oldlol: As if there's much difference between joining up with Steph/Klay/Draymond compared to prime Wade/Bosh in the atrocious East.
Honestly, this is a pretty moot point. LeBron joined the Heat when the Celtics were dominating the East, and there were other solid teams like DRose Bulls and the Pacers. The Celtics, DRose Bulls, and Pacers are better than any teams in the current West not named Spurs or Warriors

With Durant leaving, he gutted OKC taking away one of the three contenders in the West leaving just GSW and San Antonio. The West is also incredibly weak right now on the bottom. I remember reading a stat that the Warriors first 3 round opponents were .250 vs. the Cavs first 3 round opponents last year.

Having 4 of the starting all stars in the West is stacked like none other... and not only that, but an MVP joining a 73 win team that he blew a 3-1 lead to last year? Sorry, that is not close to the same as what LeBron did.

And honestly the competition doesn't really factor in. The Heat joined to win championships meaning they'd have to beat the best in the East AND West. You don't build a team just to win the conference finals, you want the chip. Honestly, the closest equivalent would be LeBron joining the Celtics after they lost to Kobe, or MJ joining the Pistons after he lost to them.

[Doranku]

You realize the Celtics big three prompted the move, right? Oh wait...I forgot, you kobe stans don't use any logic when it comes to hating on Lebron. (or much in regards to anything frankly)

So LeBron created a superteam to beat an (aging) Celtics team that he quit against the prior year after going up 2-1 in the series w/ HCA.

So admirable!

It's not like the Celtics were any competition for the Heat, anyway. They lost in 5 while losing all four games by an average of 10 points. You know, thanks to LeBron's teammate that he colluded with averaging 30/7/5/2/1 on 53% from the field.

When the Warriors do that to the Spurs with Curry averaging the kind of numbers that Wade did against Boston, then you can talk to me. :lol

[SamuraiSWISH]

KD is so phony, and cringe worthy. He started all of the bickering with his team harmony, selfless basketball comments. Now he's acting like it is all the media spinning it. Guy is a joke.

[NBAGOAT]

So LeBron created a superteam to beat an (aging) Celtics team that he quit against the prior year after going up 2-1 in the series w/ HCA.

So admirable!

It's not like the Celtics were any competition for the Heat, anyway. They lost in 5 while losing all four games by an average of 10 points. You know, thanks to LeBron's teammate that he colluded with averaging 30/7/5/2/1 on 53% from the field.

When the Warriors do that to the Spurs with Curry averaging the kind of numbers that Wade did against Boston, then you can talk to me. :lol

this is hindsight bias. It's so easy to look back now and say Miami had no competition during their big 3 run but the only thing that matters for now is what the odds were before the 2011 season since this warriors team hasn't played one playoff series yet.

The lakers were way closer to the Heat.than the Cavs to the Warriors(if the only thing that matters for a superteam is winning a championship, then the teams in the other conference matter too). Same is true for the celtics and magic compared to spurs and clippers. Heat had 6/5 odds to win a title while lakers had 3/2, magic had 9/1 and Celtics had 10/1. For now warriors are 10/13 while cavs are 13/5, Spurs are 13/2, and Clippers are 18/1. Yea if the Warriors struggle in the playoffs, you got a point. We'll just have to wait and see.

[SamuraiSWISH]

So LeBron created a superteam to beat an (aging) Celtics team that he quit against the prior year after going up 2-1 in the series w/ HCA.

So admirable!

It's not like the Celtics were any competition for the Heat, anyway. They lost in 5 while losing all four games by an average of 10 points. You know, thanks to LeBron's teammate that he colluded with averaging 30/7/5/2/1 on 53% from the field.

When the Warriors do that to the Spurs with Curry averaging the kind of numbers that Wade did against Boston, then you can talk to me. :lol
http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/legacy.images/smosh-pit/012011/situation-omg.gif

Truth Bombs.

[Smoke117]

So LeBron created a superteam to beat an (aging) Celtics team that he quit against the prior year after going up 2-1 in the series w/ HCA.

So admirable!

It's not like the Celtics were any competition for the Heat, anyway. They lost in 5 while losing all four games by an average of 10 points. You know, thanks to LeBron's teammate that he colluded with averaging 30/7/5/2/1 on 53% from the field.

When the Warriors do that to the Spurs with Curry averaging the kind of numbers that Wade did against Boston, then you can talk to me. :lol

Super team...give me a break, the Heat outside of Lebron, Wade, and Bosh were ****ing awful. Durant joined a team that had just won 73 games and was one game away from winning back to back championships. THE SITUATIONS ARE NOT REMOTELY CLOSE, PERIOD. Find some new overrated player to stan and stfu about Lebron.

[tpols]

Super team...give me a break, the Heat outside of Lebron, Wade, and Bosh were ****ing awful. Durant joined a team that had just won 73 games and was one game away from winning back to back championships. THE SITUATIONS ARE NOT REMOTELY CLOSE, PERIOD. Find some new overrated player to stan and stfu about Lebron.



Lebron himself proclaimed a super team and said they would win 6+ titles.. the players said it, the Heat, said it. Not fans, not in hindsight, right when it was happening the miami Heat players said it. And now here you are revising history..

and acting like the warriors themselves dont have enormous holes in their roster as well.. for a guy thats pimps rim protection, defense and rebounding to no end, all of Golden State's biggest flaws..

what a joke.

[Smoke117]

Lebron himself proclaimed a super team and said they would win 6+ titles.. the players said it, the Heat, said it. Not fans, not in hindsight, right when it was happening the miami Heat players said it. And now here you are revising history..

and acting like the warriors themselves dont have enormous holes in their roster as well.. for a guy thats pimps rim protection, defense and rebounding to no end, all of Golden State's biggest flaws..

what a joke.

Why even bother responding when we both know you can't be objective? You hate Lebron...this has been known for awhile and was especially apparent after you melted down for 2 months after the finals. Leave this discussion to those of us who have no horse in this race like me...I neither like or care about Lebron or Durant. Guys like you and Doranku's opinions are completely subjective and worthless. You're a pretty decent poster when its not about Lebron or Kobe, so just stick to topics not about them.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Lebron himself proclaimed a super team and said they would win 6+ titles.. the players said it, the Heat, said it. Not fans, not in hindsight, right when it was happening the miami Heat players said it. And now here you are revising history..

and acting like the warriors themselves dont have enormous holes in their roster as well.. for a guy thats pimps rim protection, defense and rebounding to no end, all of Golden State's biggest flaws..

what a joke.
Stop it. You're both jokes.

Smoke117 is a delusional Kobe hater, and him dismissing the Heat as a cowardly formed super team after James quit midway in a winnable series against the team he needed to stack the deck to defeat is hilariously stupid.

And revisionist history.

You, tpols are a delusional LeBron hater. And just as embarrassingly, mind numblingly dumb acting like the Warriors aren't by far the most stacked team in the league. Even more so than the 2011 - 2014 Heat.

Jumping the Warriors band wagon the second Kobe was no longer relevant and proclaiming them best team ever. And other morons of your kin saying shit like Curry > Kobe.

Plus all your excuse making for their choking, and LeBron / Kyrie absolutely dicking down that entire team in the Finals last year.

The vast majority of people on ISH are morons who very clearly don't know or play basketball. Rather jock sniffing dorks that pretend.

[tpols]

Why even bother responding when we both know you can't be objective? You hate Lebron...this has been known for awhile and was especially apparent after you melted down for 2 months after the finals. Leave this discussion to those of us who have no horse in this race like me...I neither like or care about Lebron or Durant. Guys like you and Doranku's opinions are completely subjective and worthless. You're a pretty decent poster when its not about Lebron or Kobe, so just stick to topics not about them.


um.. you are exact same way except on the other side..

[Smoke117]

Stop it. You're both jokes.

Smoke117 is a delusional Kobe hater, and him dismissing the Heat as a cowardly formed super team after James quit midway in a winnable series against the team he needed to stack the deck to defeat is hilariously stupid.

And revisionist history.

You, tpols are a delusional LeBron hater. And just as embarrassingly, mind numblingly dumb acting like the Warriors aren't by far the most stacked team in the league. Even more so than the 2011 - 2014 Heat.



Oh, that's cute...now the guy with a Michael Jordan altar in his closet wants to start calling people out about their delusions.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Oh, that's cute...now the guy with a Michael Jordan altar in his closet wants to start calling people out about their delusions.
Mike is the greatest player ever. There is NOTHING delusional basketball wise about that.

He's by far and wide agreed upon by the top minds in the sport or associated with as being the pinnacle.

STFU and go drink some tequila.

I don't hate on LeBron, Kobe, Wade, etc the way you or tpols do with certain ball players. Kobe is a top 12 player ever and you talk about him like he's trash.

It's disrespectful to the sport itself.

[tpols]

Mike is the greatest player ever. There is NOTHING delusional basketball wise about that.

He's by far and wide agreed upon by the top minds in the sport or associated with as being the pinnacle.

STFU and go drink some tequila.


you're not Mike though. Your opinion isnt GOAT because Jordan is GOAT.. thats what a lot of snobby MJ fans dont seem to get. But you need to learn coach.



and you absolutely do hate on Lebron and Kobe depending on the argument and Jordans position in it..

[Smoke117]

um.. you are exact same way except on the other side..

I don't say anything about Kobe that isn't true and I also don't go out my way to throw shade on him...it's not my fault the majority of kobe stans are completely delusional and have to be corrected regularly.

[SamuraiSWISH]

you're not Mike though. Your opinion isnt GOAT because Jordan is GOAT.. thats what a lot of snobby MJ fans dont seem to get. But you need to learn coach.
I didn't say I'm Jordan or my opinion is Jordan. But my opinion is better and more informed than you or Smoke117. You both have delusions and out right spite with skewed agenda against a top 12 and top 5 player of all time. That's what's alarming. Nothing Jordan related about it.

[Smoke117]

STFU and go drink some tequila.



And there it is...your fallback whenever I disagree with you on something. Pathetic.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Just a few weeks ago Smoke117 you said Kobe wasn't a great on ball defender. Lol when in actuality in that regard he's quite easily one of the best of all time. How is that not throwing shade?

[Smoke117]

Just a few weeks ago Smoke117 you said Kobe wasn't a great on ball defender. Lol when in actuality in that regard he's quite easily one of the best of all time. How is that not throwing shade?

He's good when he TRIES, but the problem with Kobe is the effort was never regularly there. Great defense is defined by CONSISTENCY and Kobe never gave a consistent effort to make close to nine all defensive teams. He frankly peaked as a defensive player in 2000 and was never as good as that again as he cared more about his point totals than playing defense thereafter.

[BigKAT]

So...

Back to the topic of KD 'Loving Russ'.

Not going to use the word Beta,
But that is a pretty odd thing to say.

If you want to mend the relationship, give him a call.
Send him a text.

Go wait outside Chepsake Arena with a boom box blasting ''I'll always love you'' while holding out a picture of Russ.

But, to go to the Media, and to say it through that?
Without having spoken to him?

Seems a bit like sucking up to me.


Thing is, I like Kevin Durant. I think he is geniuenly a good guy, who sorta messed up his public image. (Reminds you of someone?)

Hopefully things turn out for the best, either with the Warriors, or whatever team he's going to finish his career at. Still hyped for the Westbrook Vs KD brutality we're all expecting, but I'd like to see KD and WB sort it out. They've helped each other too much to treat each other like strangers. (Hey, even Shaq and Kobe made amends.)

[Doranku]

Why even bother responding when we both know you can't be objective? You hate Lebron...this has been known for awhile and was especially apparent after you melted down for 2 months after the finals. Leave this discussion to those of us who have no horse in this race like me...I neither like or care about Lebron or Durant. Guys like you and Doranku's opinions are completely subjective and worthless. You're a pretty decent poster when its not about Lebron or Kobe, so just stick to topics not about them.

I have said multiple times on this forum that LeBron is top 5 all-time. My dislike for him and his unbearable fanbase doesn't cloud my judgment.

[SamuraiSWISH]

He's good when he TRIES, but the problem with Kobe is the effort was never regularly there. Great defense is defined by CONSISTENCY and Kobe never gave a consistent effort to make close to nine all defensive teams. He frankly peaked as a defensive player in 2000 and was never as good as that again as he cared more about his point totals than playing defense thereafter.
Besides him probably deserving second team defense in 2009 and 2010 ... the coaches haves voted him to most first team defenses of all time. Sure some of it at times is reputation based but he got that rep for a reason. That's through longevity and a form of consistency.

You're saying you know better than the coaches and GMs or players he's faced? Only time I saw a visible slip was in 2006 and 2007 when he was just having to score the ball at a ridiculous rate for LA to even be competitive. His own coach backs this assessment.

And I wouldn't say he at all peaked defensively in 2000. He was better in 2001. But even if he didn't approach that level again he was easily the best defender at his position for most of the 2000s. Wade was better in 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2012. That's it.

[Smoke117]

Besides him probably deserving second team defense in 2009 and 2010 ... the coaches haves voted him to most first team defenses of all time. Sure some of it at times is reputation based but he got that rep for a reason. That's through longevity and a form of consistency.

You're saying you know better than the coaches and GMs or players he's faced? Only time I saw a visible slip was in 2006 and 2007 when he was just having to score the ball at a ridiculous rate for LA to even be competitive. His own coach backs this assessment.

And I wouldn't say he at all peaked defensively in 2000. He was better in 2001. But even if he didn't approach that level again he was easily the best defender at his position for most of the 2000s. Wade was better in 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2012. That's it.

...it's pretty common knowledge the coaches don't give a shit when it comes to the all-defensive team and just pencil in repeat players based on reputation or just put it off on their assistant coaches to do. And Wade has been a better defender since he came into the league except when he was hurt.

[CuhGetsBucks]

I hope yall don't be using Alpha and Beta in your real life convos:roll:

[Rocketswin2013]

An angle people aren't talking about with KD going to GS is the team he left. This guy had Russell ****ing Westbrook, and a roster full of above average pieces to help him win.

And he leaves this for a team that barely beat his because of his shit play down the stretch in the series.

LeBron wouldn't have even considered Miami for a second if he already had an MVP caliber teammate and a young roster full of complimentary pieces. Hell, LeBron would've won before 2010, if he had '12 - '16 Thunder from '06 - '10.

Durant left really great, for super great. Much "worse" from any standpoint. And I don't even hate what Durant did.