The Warriors Miss Bogut

[LAZERUSS]

And his moving screens...

[knicksman]

Except they now have a trade chip to get a healthier bogut. Jerry West is just a genius

[Tycriss]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HorribleUnitedDuck-size_restricted.gif

[retaxis]

And his moving screens...
And his point centre passes
And his shot blocking
And his ability to finish lobs (I don't even know if Pachy can dunk the ball at 6-10)
And his communication on offense/defence
And his leadership
And yes his moving screens (which no one in the league has mastered yet besides Bogut)

[LAZERUSS]

And his point centre passes
And his shot blocking
And his ability to finish lobs (I don't even know if Pachy can dunk the ball at 6-10)
And his communication on offense/defence
And his leadership
And yes his moving screens (which no one in the league has mastered yet besides Bogut)

Not arguing at all. In fact, his absence in the last two games of the Finals, and particularly game seven, was HUGE. Even in his limited minutes in the Finals, he was still a HUGE factor when he was on the floor.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Bogut's such a factor that the Warriors won the last 3 games on the 2015 finals by benching him :lol

[HenryGarfunkle]

Injury prone, slow, ugly, sloppy mother ****er. NOBODY misses that guy. He's gonna play 24 games this season MAX

[LAZERUSS]

Bogut's such a factor that the Warriors won the last 3 games on the 2015 finals by benching him :lol

And were 3-2 in the '16 Finals with him (and only a suspension to Draymond from winning 4-1.)

[RRR3]

The Cavs outsourced the Warriors when Bogut was on the floor in the 2016 finals. Lozeruss is just butthurt LeBron had a finals Ilt could only dream of.

[J Shuttlesworth]

And were 3-2 in the '16 Finals with him (and only a suspension to Draymond from winning 4-1.)
Maybe Dray should not kick people in the nuts... and maybe Warriors should have not been relying on someone as injury prone as Bogut. Plus he was playing like 10 minutes a game :lol

[LAZERUSS]

Maybe Dray should not kick people in the nuts... and maybe Warriors should have not been relying on someone as injury prone as Bogut. Plus he was playing like 10 minutes a game :lol

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Like he could do any damage to LeShrinkage in that area.

BTW, it was TAP to his vxxxxa. And yes, LeQUIT provoked it.

[RRR3]

It's honestly disturbing how fixated Laz is on LeBron's genitals.

He must be in love.

[LAZERUSS]

The Cavs outsourced the Warriors when Bogut was on the floor in the 2016 finals. Lozeruss is just butthurt LeBron had a finals Ilt could only dream of.

Chamberlain was putting up "Finals" of 34-27 my friend. As well as 31-27, and 30-31 (arguably the most dominant "Finals" in NBA history BTW.) The "Finals" of the decade of the 60's were the Celtics vs. Wilt.

Hell he even hung a 29-28 .517 (outshooting the post-season league average of .420 BTW) Finals, and a 23-24 .625 Finals.

You want an example of the "Finals" of the 60's...


In Chamberlain's 64-65 season, he was traded mid-year, for three decent players, to a team that had gone 34-46 the year before. He then single-handedly carried what was a 40-40 team, past Oscar's stacked 48-32 Royals in the first round.

Then, he took that roster, which had gone 34-46 without him...up against the six-time defending champion, and 62-18 Celtics, with SIX HOFers, and at the peal of their dynasty...

to a game seven, one point loss. In a game in which Chamberlain scored 30 pts on 12-15 shooting (and with a .724 TS%), with 32 rebounds. And in that game, he scored Philly's last 8 points, including 2-2 from the line with 36 secs remaining, and a dunk over Russell with 5 secs left...to pull the Sixers to within 110-109. Then, after the "clutch" Russell hit a guidewire with an inbounds pass, the Sixers had a chance to pull off the greatest upset in NBA playoff history. Alas, a Wilt teammate, Hal Greer, threw an inbounds pass that was picked off by Hondo. Oh, and while Chamberlain shot 12-15 from the floor, his teammates collectively shot 28-75 from the floor.. .373...in that one point loss.

For the series, Chamberlain averaged 30.1 ppg, with 31.4 rpg (and a 25.2 TRB%), on a .555 FG% (in a series in which the two teams combined to shoot .413 overall), and with a .575 TS%, in a series in which the two teams combined to shoot a TS% of .465.

Oh, and then Boston went on to rout the Lakers in the Finals, 4-1, which included two 30+ point blowout wins, including a 129-96 clincher. In a series in which Russell averaged 18-25-6 on a .702 FG%. And against this center...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&hint=Leroy+Ellis&player_id1_select=Leroy+Ellis&player_id1=ellisle01&hint=Wilt+Chamberlain&player_id2_select=Wilt+Chamberlain&player_id2=chambwi01



Compare that with Lebron's '16 Finals. Took a 57-25 team up against a 73-9 team that barely won a seven game series against a 55 win team, and was outscored in that series. Then, after the Warriors went up 3-1, the NBA suspended Draymond Green; Andrew Bogut, their rim-protector, missed the last two games with an injury; and the "Lebron-Stopper" Iguadala injured his back and was just a shell in the last two games of the series.

In the game seven win, Lebron shot 9-24 from the field, including 0-4 in the last four minutes. He needed a great defensive stop by Kevin Love (of all people), and a game winning trey from Kyrie to win the game.

Lebron's game seven stats:

27 points, on 9-24 from the field, with an eFG% of .396, in a game in which the two teams combined to shoot .450. And with a TS% of .475, in a game in which the two teams combined to shoot a TS% of .501.

He also had a teammate score 26 points, on a .478 eFG%, and a .525 TS%.

The best player on the floor in that game seven?

How about Draymond Green, who as you will recall, was suspended in game five. Green put up a game high 32 points, on a .933 eFG% and a .955 TS%, with a game high 15 rebounds.


James had a great series, but not a Wilt-esque '65 EDF's.

29.7 ppg, 11.3 rpg, 8.9 apg on a .533 eFG%, and a .562 TS%, in a series in which both teams shot considerably higher than the teams in Wilt's '65 EDF's.


In any case... Lebron was one shot away from losing the '16 Finals, and Wilt was one bad inbounds pass away from winning a ring in '65.

BTW...none other than John Wooden claimed that had Wilt and Russell swapped rosters in their 10 years in the league together, and it would have been Wilt holding all those rings.

[retaxis]

Boguts a great centre and one of the smartest players in the league.

Current GSW team is similar in fashion to the 11 Heat

Absolutely not a shot blocker in town. Heat was manning Joel Anthony (6'9 PF/C) at the centre position in their first season and he was not an effective shot blocker. Same thing with GSW this year, they are fielding a 6-10 C who can not jump over a roadside curb.

Going back to the first year in Miami, They really had no answers for the big man play of Dirk/Tyson Chandler down in the low post/high post. They really feasted in the paint and took advantage of the transition 3s against Miami.

A few days ago Spurs showed us the exact same thing, They put 2 big men in the low block against GSW and they feasted on the GSW like Mavs did to the Heat in the 11 finals. After Heat lost the finals they threw Bosh in at Centre to be a shot blocker instead (Something that they can not do with Green as green can not block shots at the 5) because they knew they needed an inside presence. GSW, in my opinion, will realise this when they lose in the playoffs and end up trading Pachulia for a shot blocker instead.

[LAZERUSS]

It's honestly disturbing how fixated Laz is on LeBron's genitals.

He must be in love.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

After he showed the shrinkage off to millions, I am just one of the many that considers him a laughingstock in that area.

[warriorfan]

Bogut's such a factor that the Warriors won the last 3 games on the 2015 finals by benching him :lol
Bogut was really broken down by the end of the season. It's that 7+ foot 300 pound life after 30. It was not only a matchup problem, but health as well.

[LAZERUSS]

It's honestly disturbing how fixated Laz is on LeBron's genitals.

He must be in love.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

After he showed off his shrinkage on national tv, I am just one of the millions that considers him a laughingstock in that area.

[RRR3]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

After he showed the shrinkage off to millions, I am just one of the many that considers him a laughingstock in that area.
No one else feels the need to talk about it constantly.

Just you.

[LAZERUSS]

No one else feels the need to talk about it constantly.

Just you.

How about LeQUIT, then?

Listen, I could post a TON of games in which EVERYONE that watched them would claim he was the King of QUIT.

[warriorfan]

RRR3 likes LeBron because LeBron makes him feel secure about the size of his unit

[J Shuttlesworth]

Bogut was really broken down by the end of the season. It's that 7+ foot 300 pound life after 30. It was not only a matchup problem, but health as well.
He's always broken down and injured. A 10 mpg guy isn't an excuse for a 73 win team

[Bosnian Sajo]

Speaking of Bogut....


The Mavs are 0-5 :eek:

Harrison has good stats (18.5ppg/5rpg on 49% shooting), but the team is losing game after game.

[warriorfan]

He's always broken down and injured. A 10 mpg guy isn't an excuse for a 73 win team

Yes, it is true that he is always broken down and injured, especially during the end of an 82 game season plus a full playoffs. That is why he was ineffective in the 2015 Finals and didn't even make it through 2016's.

This isn't about excuses, it's about the facts. Check your insecurities, it's making it so you can't even discuss ball.

[RRR3]

RRR3 likes LeBron because LeBron makes him feel secure about the size of his unit
Pretty secure about that actually. Not secure about many things though


And I like LeBron cuz he's a great player not because of your weird fantasies.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Yes, it is true that he is always broken down and injured, especially during the end of an 82 game season plus a full playoffs. That is why he was ineffective in the 2015 Finals and didn't even make it through 2016's.

This isn't about excuses, it's about the facts. Check your insecurities, it's making it so you can't even discuss ball.
You can't even discuss ball without bringing up some copy paste bullshit trying to excuse the Warriors from blowing a 3-1 lead :roll: :roll:

[warriorfan]

You can't even discuss ball without bringing up some copy paste bullshit trying to excuse the Warriors from blowing a 3-1 lead :roll: :roll:

Scroll up 2 posts and you will see that is completely untrue

While you say this you keep chanting "3-1" out of context

The hypocrisy is real :lol

[J Shuttlesworth]

Scroll up 2 posts and you will see that is completely untrue

While you say this you keep chanting "3-1" out of context

The hypocrisy is real :lol
How many posts did you make about Curry's MCL injury? You are easily the most insecure poster here. It's pretty simple

Also, missing your 2nd and third best players for an entire series is much more impactful than losing a 10 mpg player, and one of your players getting suspended for kicking people in the nuts. 2016 title = valid. 2015 = asterisk

You know it's true which is why you deflect and copy and paste shit constantly without actually saying anything substantial

[Mr Feeny]

I just love how Bogut called out Kobe and sh@t all over him, saying he prefers Duncan. Not caring about the Kobe fanboys reactions:roll:


Class act, that Bogut. And knows his basketball:applause:

[Poetry]

Bogut led the league in Defensive Real Plus-Minus last year.

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/year/2016/sort/DRPM

[warriorfan]

Andrew Bogut is a defensive savant

Zaza is a retarded piece of shit

[Wally450]

Not arguing at all. In fact, his absence in the last two games of the Finals, and particularly game seven, was HUGE. Even in his limited minutes in the Finals, he was still a HUGE factor when he was on the floor.

No he wasn't :oldlol:

[LAZERUSS]

No he wasn't :oldlol:

His 98 DRtg was, by far, the best on the Warriors in the Finals.

He also had 10 blocked shots in his 60 minutes playing time. By comparison, Lebron's "leading" 16 blocks came in 292 minutes. Bogut's blk% was miles better than anyone else in the series.

[retaxis]

Andrew Bogut is a defensive savant

Zaza is a retarded piece of shit
I wouldn't call him 'retarded or a piece of shit..' He is a back up enforcer/grinder and he has carved out a great career for someone of his own skill set. Made a lot of money, travelled the world and most definitely can spend the rest of his life living off the interest of his jackpot earnings over the years. Its GSW problem for asking a backup enforcer to play as a starting centre. Don't be juvenile and resort to kiddie emotions of hate/love whenever something doesn't go your way. Pachy made a career, made more money then most will ever see and is probably a celebrity back in his own country. If he is a 'retarded piece of shit' I wonder what that would make the average joe?

[J Shuttlesworth]

His 98 DRtg was, by far, the best on the Warriors in the Finals.

He also had 10 blocked shots in his 60 minutes playing time. By comparison, Lebron's "leading" 16 blocks came in 292 minutes. Bogut's blk% was miles better than anyone else in the series.
That's great but doesn't mean a thing if Cleveland outscores the Warriors when Bogut's on the floor.

[Bigsmoke]

How his presence felt in Dallas?

[tpols]

His 98 DRtg was, by far, the best on the Warriors in the Finals.

He also had 10 blocked shots in his 60 minutes playing time. By comparison, Lebron's "leading" 16 blocks came in 292 minutes. Bogut's blk% was miles better than anyone else in the series.


Bogut led the entire playoffs in blocks.. we can now see crystal clear just how bad this defense is without him..

[r0drig0lac]

And his moving screens...
word

[Mr Feeny]

Andrew Bogut is a defensive savant

Zaza is a retarded piece of shit

He knows his basketball as well:applause:
Sh@t on Kobe! :lebronamazed: