The Fall of Andre Iguodala

[hold this L]

Since preseason, I've noticed a massive dip in quality from him. I thought ok, preseason and it doesn't matter. Livingston has been subpar to poor then as well, but he's played better and better over the season. Iguadala on the other hand has been pretty terrible in all but 1 game. Defense has been mediocre, but offensively he has been atrocious.

4.9/3.1/3.6
FG 37%
3P 17%
PER 8.5
on 27 minutes.

last season
7/4/3.4
FG 47%
3P 35%
on 27 minutes.

I know ISH is a cesspool of overreaction (like Kyrie turning into an awful player because of a single game just two days ago for example :facepalm ), but I think father time has caught up with him. He is not explosive and many times instead of dunking, has tried these awkward lay ups that are easy 2 points. He's missed nearly every single one. His defense has been solid IMO, but he's still not the dominant player he used to be. If Warriors make the final to play the Cavs, Iggy is going to get used and abused by Bron bron if he's on his game. If there's one player that Lebron Shang Tsung'd the soul out of that final, it's Andre. I don't know if he still has back issues and is afraid of the landing, but he looks scared to dunk out there. Man looks shook on easy points.

Considering that the bench got worse since last season and Iggy/Shaun are supposed to lead it, this is a very worrying issue.

[Nilocon165]

No excuses

[Horatio33]

He's 33-34 years old. What do you expect?

[Clifton]

Iguodala is part of a whole in Golden State. Honestly, no matter how bad he is, the team can still win any game, any series, and would be worse off if he weren't there.

He's obviously not nearly as bad as old Noah, Fisher, or Perkins; but he has the same sort of staying power and intangible value.

His play will pick up but I won't be shocked if we never see strong offensive play from him again.

[scm5]

He'll be fine.

Klay and Iggy are having terrible starts to the season. Zaza looks lost out there at times.

If these three can get their shit together a little bit, the Warriors will start rolling. That's really all it's going to take.

[egokiller]

He's 33-34 years old. What do you expect?

This statement only makes MJ shitting on the entire league in 1998 at 35 years old all that much more impressive.

[scm5]

This statement only makes MJ shitting on the entire league in 1998 at 35 years old all that much more impressive.

I think it'll probably just take Iggy's body to get used to playing at game speed. He's still athletic as hell and fully capable.

[aj1987]

This statement only makes MJ shitting on the entire league in 1998 at 35 years old all that much more impressive.
Malone as well. Dude won MVP at 35. KAJ as well. Won FMVP at 37.

[Orlando Magic]

Iggy + Zaza + 2017 Kia Optima for Anthony Davis

:roll:

[Orlando Magic]

This statement only makes MJ shitting on the entire league in 1998 at 35 years old all that much more impressive.

Hey... bro... MJ was shitting on the league at 40 in his second season back up until getting injured.

[Hey Yo]

This statement only makes MJ shitting on the entire league in 1998 at 35 years old all that much more impressive.
MJ quit for almost 2 years and came back fresh.



:durantunimpressed:

[SamuraiSWISH]

This statement only makes MJ shitting on the entire league in 1998 at 35 years old all that much more impressive.
Exactly.

Consistency, production, and durability as evident by Wade / Iggy at the guard positions based on extreme quickness ... declines rapidly after age 32.

But it makes these look all the more impressive.

Kobe 2012 - 33 years old
28 ppg, 5 rpg, 5 apg

Kobe 2013 - 34 years old
27 ppg, 6 rpg, 6 apg

And of course ...

Jordan 1996 - 33 years old (MVP)
30 ppg, 7 rpg, 4 apg

Jordan 1997 - 34 years old
30 ppg, 6 rpg, 4 apg

Jordan 1998 - 35 years old (MVP)
29 ppg, 6 rpg, 4 apg

Amd even this ...

Jordan 2002 - 39 years old
23 ppg, 6 rpg, 5 apg

Jordan 2003 - 40 years old
20 ppg, 6 rpg, 4 apg

[sammichoffate]

He might still have some back pain, he did have the summer to rehab it but I wouldn't be surprised if that's the reason he's playing so slowly

[warriorfan]

Iguodala is cancerous

Doesn't hustle

Has a shitty attitude

Isn't very skilled

He is wack

[aj1987]

Iguodala is cancerous

Doesn't hustle

Has a shitty attitude

Isn't very skilled

He is wack
Won FMVP over your boy Cuckry, retard.

[MrFonzworth]

Iguodala is cancerous

Doesn't hustle

Has a shitty attitude

Isn't very skilled

He is wack

retarded

[Jasper]

Iggy is warming up for the playoffs and his 61 point final game. :confusedshrug:

[Gotterdammerung]

For a guard, athleticism goes by real quick. If there were bursts here and there, in spots, then it would just be a stamina problem. But if Iguodala no longer has quickness left, he can't just recall it. :hammerhead:

A taller forward or center can stretch this out because their game is predicated less on athleticism, as in quickness, and more on power and positioning.

But Jordan was a real freak - his athleticism went down slower than almost any other guard I know. The only closest parallel at that size was Doctor J. :bowdown:

[JebronLames]

Mentally destroyed by lebron's block. Don't think he'll recover.

[SamuraiSWISH]

But Jordan was a real freak - his athleticism went down slower than almost any other guard I know. The only closest parallel at that size was Doctor J. :bowdown:
Seriously. Think about D-Wade. Nick named the "Flash" in his prime. Now, he can only get by guys using craftiness, and ball handling moves at 35 years old.

Jordan at 35 however was still BLOWING past defenders. That was the first year his leaping ability took a sizable, and noticeable hit. The bunnies were gone.

[Smoke117]

But Jordan was a real freak - his athleticism went down slower than almost any other guard I know. The only closest parallel at that size was Doctor J. :bowdown:


He also took a 2-year break which obviously helped.

[$LakerGold]

He's 32 yrs. old, he'll be fine.

[SamuraiSWISH]

He also took a 2-year break which obviously helped.
Yea he slept and rested up in his futuristic hyperbaric chamber, and also got innovative state of the art German surgeries predicated on blood doping.

Oh wait, he was doing this:

http://cdn-s3.si.com/s3fs-public/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0904/nba.michael.jordan.playing.baseball/images/michael-jordan-barons-outfield.jpg

Total 2 year's worth break. Morons.

:oldlol:

[lilteapot]

This statement only makes MJ shitting on the entire league in 1998 at 35 years old all that much more impressive.

If we are going to compare everybody to MJ everyone will fall short. So please shut the hell up about it.

[egokiller]

If we are going to compare everybody to MJ everyone will fall short. So please shut the hell up about it.

I'm not comparing everybody to MJ in the general sense. I made a statement which is applicable in a specific context. With this specific context in mind, KAJ winning FMVP at 37 doesn't fall short to MJ winning it at 35. So no, not everyone falls short.