Jordan cannot do this dunk

[JohnMax]

Jordan lacks full body coordination and fluidity to do a true windmill (full arm rotation going in one direction w/ ball swinging below waist).

http://blogcdn.champssports.com/assets/2015/04/zn8KTO4-Imgur.gif

[AirFederer]

Well MJ is 53 so you are probably right for once

[theaussieguy]

no knock on Jordan tbh when you consider that Kobe is the greatest in game dunker of all time.

Pound for pound its rose, but all time, kobe. Hands down. No question.

[Lord P]

MJ's already exhibited that he has the body control necessary for a dunk like that


no knock on Jordan tbh when you consider that Kobe is the greatest in game dunker of all time.

Pound for pound its rose, but all time, kobe. Hands down. No question.
Did you forget that Vince Carter existed?

[MP.Trey]

Well MJ is 53 so you are probably right for once
:oldlol:

[jstern]

Compared to Jordan Kobe looks like he has a poverty vertical.

[C-Green]

Did you forget that Vince Carter existed?
^^^This^^^

[BigKAT]

MJ's already exhibited that he has the body control necessary for a dunk like that


Did you forget that Vince Carter existed?


....Umh.

Zach Lavine ? (Potentially?)

[K Xerxes]

no knock on Jordan tbh when you consider that Kobe is the greatest in game dunker of all time.

Pound for pound its rose, but all time, kobe. Hands down. No question.

How long have you been watching basketball? :oldlol:

Rose isn't even close. He might be the best IQ point for IQ point.

[jstern]

I look at that dunk, and I can easily see Jordan doing it much better. With more hang time, and much more graceful.

Can Kobe do this dunk?

http://31.media.tumblr.com/9582d89e07f117672ea084c56599a18c/tumblr_mh5nunfVg91qfkqupo2_r1_250.gif

He tried https://youtu.be/UqVibdD3UqA?t=63

Technically he could, but the results are just not the same. He even doubled dribbled the ball, but it didn't help much.

[SouBeachTalents]

Like the 3rd or 4th thread this fakkit's made on this topic :lol

[Showtime80']

You're right OP, Michael brings the ball down to his damn ankles while going sideways:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHdRzGBukIA

Kobe would need a hand transplant to do a dunk like that!

[egokiller]

Like the 3rd or 4th thread this fakkit's made on this topic :lol

What else can be said when MJ is in another world than their favorite player?

Next it will be "While MJ would certainly have been a better 3 point shooter than Curry, he made the mistake of furthering his game in other areas"

:roll:

[ShawkFactory]

no knock on Jordan tbh when you consider that Kobe is the greatest in game dunker of all time.

Pound for pound its rose, but all time, kobe. Hands down. No question.
Da fuq? Vince carter is the same size as Kobe.

Like...it's not even a debate between those 2..

[OldSchoolBBall]

Why wouldn't Jordan be able to do that when Kobe's head is like 18" below the rim (nowhere near Jordan's elevation), and when Jordan already showed that he could do an even harder circular motion with his rock the cradle dunks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cj9blBMdjo#t=9m34s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL504R3gmcA#t=6m44s

Kobe could never even dream about doing either of these.

A forward windmill is easy by comparison. You can't say that someone CAN'T do something just because they DIDN'T do it. You need to look at the capabilities of each player.

[pedromarinho]

Still prefer Kobe's... So damn sexy. That swing is as perfect as it gets. Not to say it's in game.

[JohnMax]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/b4b272793446fad4e694e04327ac81e9/tumblr_n5hgphwWX61rvekoro1_400.gif

This is not a true windmill!

MJ was never able to swing the ball all the way through, he had his weird half-clutch cradle version.

Kobe's windmills aren't half-clutched, he fully extends them and has done more than just one in a game, he has also done them along the baseline over defenders unlike Jordan.

[Smoke117]

no knock on Jordan tbh when you consider that Kobe is the greatest in game dunker of all time.

Pound for pound its rose, but all time, kobe. Hands down. No question.

:biggums: :facepalm

[tpols]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/b4b272793446fad4e694e04327ac81e9/tumblr_n5hgphwWX61rvekoro1_400.gif



maybe jordan just didnt have the full body coordination and fluidity of Kobe Bryant .. ?

not everybody can be the GOAT..

[ShawkFactory]

maybe jordan just didnt have the full body coordination and fluidity of Kobe Bryant .. ?

not everybody can be the GOAT..
:lol

[Spurs m8]

You're right OP, Michael brings the ball down to his damn ankles while going sideways:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHdRzGBukIA

Kobe would need a hand transplant to do a dunk like that!

HAHAHAAH JOHN MAX F*CKING SLAYED AS USUAL

[Showtime80']

Jesus Christ!

Guys like Westbrick and Kobe don't have the hand size and overall athleticism Jordan had so their momentum could ONLY allow them to bring the ball down to their waste.

In the dunk I showed from 1991 not only is MJ tilted sideways he also grabs the ball like a damn orange which allows him to not rely on momentum to keep the ball in his hand and lets him concentrate in leg and off arm extension which make the dunk even more awesome.

Let it go Kobe fans, he had a very good career but he never reached the realm of Michael, IN ANYTHING!!! The media tried to shove him down as the "Next" but he never really was

[Bosnian Sajo]

Who the hell cares?

[Cali Syndicate]

It's weird MJ never did a full windmill. It'd be hard to believe MJ couldn't fully extend a rotation. Maybe MJ respected Wilkins to an extent not to copy his dunk?

[theaussieguy]

:biggums: :facepalm
I was just trolling, MJ is the greatest in game dunker of all time IMO. Absolutely top tier off two feet and elite off one. Obviously Vince Carter is the most spectacular but did he use it like MJ did? I am not sure about that

I was serious about rose being the pound for pound, inch for inch greatest dunker of all time though. Nothing impressed me more than what this 6'1 guy could do in the air, such as bending around big men in the air only to dunk it on the other side of the hoop.

[ClipperRevival]

Lol.

[Bawkish]

http://i.makeagif.com/media/11-14-2016/dcB-xr.gif

[julizaver]

Jordan lacks full body coordination and fluidity to do a true windmill (full rotation going in one direction w/ ball swinging below waist).

http://blogcdn.champssports.com/assets/2015/04/zn8KTO4-Imgur.gif


The most silliest statement I ever see here - I've never see more coordinated and fluid basketball player since Jordan retired. It is a joke maybe ?

[ClipperRevival]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/b4b272793446fad4e694e04327ac81e9/tumblr_n5hgphwWX61rvekoro1_400.gif



Poetry in motion. Jump about 10-11 feet from the basket, off two feet during a full sprint. Few can explode that hard to the basket in that scenario.

You newbies are making yourselves look bad to be honest with your layman arguments. It's like saying VC was a bad dunker because he couldn't jump from the FT line. Or Julius Erving was a bad dunker because he seldom jumped off two feet. Every dunkers has their own way of doing it.

[Ben Simons]

no knock on Jordan tbh when you consider that Kobe is the greatest in game dunker of all time.

Pound for pound its rose, but all time, kobe. Hands down. No question.
You are a crazy person.

Also, Jordan had insane body control, better leaping ability than Kobe, and massive hands, all of which would have made it pretty easy for him to do that dunk.

[CuterThanRubio]

http://i.makeagif.com/media/11-14-2016/dcB-xr.gif

This isn't a fully extended windmill, he pulls the ball back behind his body, not directly downwards through his core. it's a half clutch tomahawk.

And, this was an exhibition, he hasn't done anything close to a true windmill in a game situation

[theaussieguy]

You are a crazy person.

Also, Jordan had insane body control, better leaping ability than Kobe, and massive hands, all of which would have made it pretty easy for him to do that dunk.

see my post above

[pauk]

Let me get this straight... so, you, somehow, genuinely & wholeheartedly believe that arguably the most athletic player ever @ 6'6" with a 48" vertical leap/GOAT hang time COULDNT swing his arm/the ball around in mid air?

https://media.giphy.com/media/KkyqjDrocqjmM/giphy.gif

[Dragonyeuw]

Let me get this straight... so, you, somehow, genuinely & wholeheartedly believe that arguably the most athletic player ever @ 6'6" with a 48" vertical leap/GOAT hang time COULDNT swing his arm/the ball around in mid air?

https://media.giphy.com/media/KkyqjDrocqjmM/giphy.gif

Welcome to ISH.

[Showtime80']

Jesus, people here are definitely blind!!!

On the dunk displayed above Jordan PALMED the ball in one hand and brought it down to his ankles while going sideways!!!!

Kobe and Westbrick would need to superglue the damn ball to their puny baby hands to pull off that dunk!

Like I said in another thread, Jordan, Dominique and Dr J concentrated on body fluidity and motion instead of trickery in their dunks. How their arms and legs moved and extended was more important than going through their legs or jumping over sh!t!

Not to mention they were the CORNERSTONES of their franchises in their prime athletic years! Give all of them the time to practice their dunks and lack of team pressure that scrubs like Lavine and Gordon have and I guarantee you they would've come up with stuff that would've blown them out of the water.

[CuterThanRubio]

Jesus, people here are definitely blind!!!

On the dunk displayed above Jordan PALMED the ball in one hand and brought it down to his ankles while going sideways!!!!

Kobe and Westbrick would need to superglue the damn ball to their puny baby hands to pull off that dunk!

Like I said in another thread, Jordan, Dominique and Dr J concentrated on body fluidity and motion instead of trickery in their dunks. How their arms and legs moved and extended was more important than going through their legs or jumping over sh!t!

Not to mention they were the CORNERSTONES of their franchises in their prime athletic years! Give all of them the time to practice their dunks and lack of team pressure that scrubs like Lavine and Gordon have and I guarantee you they would've come up with stuff that would've blown them out of the water.


I see a lot of excuses in this post.

No facts.

http://i.makeagif.com/media/6-06-2016/kp3Wo9.gif (http://makeagif.com/kp3Wo9)

[ArbitraryWater]

no knock on Jordan tbh when you consider that Kobe is the greatest in game dunker of all time.

Pound for pound its rose, but all time, kobe. Hands down. No question.

Rose hasn't dunked in 4 years

[Ben Simons]

see my post above
Ok, gotcha.

[Ben Simons]

He tried https://youtu.be/UqVibdD3UqA?t=63


3:42 :lol

[Ben Simons]

I see a lot of excuses in this post.

No facts.

http://i.makeagif.com/media/6-06-2016/kp3Wo9.gif (http://makeagif.com/kp3Wo9)
Fact: Old school dunk contests didn't give you as many attempts to complete your dunks.

This led to safer dunks, because missing a dunk could cost you the competition, unlike in recent years.

[CuterThanRubio]

Fact: Old school dunk contests didn't give you as many attempts to complete your dunks.

This led to safer dunks, because missing a dunk could cost you the competition, unlike in recent years.

People were doing 360s, windmills, even through the legs slams BEFORE Jordan entered his first contest, what was stopping him from doing those things?

It's not like he had never seen them or heard of them before.

The FACT is that he was unable to perform technically advanced dunks and stuck to his simple catalog without taking any risks.

If you think his dunks look better, that is personal preference, aesthetics are strictly opinion based, but you CANNOT deny that Kobe's body of work required more skill to complete.

Only trolls and fanboys are stooping to that level, blame it on the era all you want, in that same vein you could argue that Kobe would be another step beyond MJ if he started his pro career nowadays.

Applying logic is not that difficult!

[Ben Simons]

People were doing 360s, windmills, even through the legs slams BEFORE Jordan entered his first contest, what was stopping him from doing those things?

It's not like he had never seen them or heard of them before.

The FACT is that he was unable to perform technically advanced dunks and stuck to his simple catalog without taking any risks.

If you think his dunks look better, that is personal preference, aesthetics are strictly opinion based, but you CANNOT deny that Kobe's body of work required more skill to complete.

Only trolls and fanboys are stooping to that level, blame it on the era all you want, in that same vein you could argue that Kobe would be another step beyond MJ if he started his pro career nowadays.

Applying logic is not that difficult!
Kobe would have lost at 3:42 in the video above if he participated in the 80s. It is silly to think that just because Jordan didn't do certain dunks, that he would not have been able to do them. Between the legs would have been just fine with Jordan doing them. Instead, he opted to thrive on his own strengths rather than trying to duplicate what others have done, which can't be said for Kobe, whether we are talking about the dunk contests or the games themselves.

[Sarcastic]

Dominique was the king of windmills. He probably didn't want to be associated with the same type of dunk, since he was his biggest competitor.

[CuterThanRubio]

Kobe would have lost at 3:42 in the video above if he participated in the 80s. It is silly to think that just because Jordan didn't do certain dunks, that he would not have been able to do them. Between the legs would have been just fine with Jordan doing them. Instead, he opted to thrive on his own strengths rather than trying to duplicate what others have done, which can't be said for Kobe, whether we are talking about the dunk contests or the games themselves.


Stopped reading your trash post once I hit the word "would"

Nothing but woulda, coulda, shoulda, going down in here, face the facts

Weak alt nonsense trying to alter my perspective when I already solidified the truth in the first post of my original thread, step up with your real account or don't bother challenging the champ!

:hammerhead:

[Showtime80']

Ok CuterthanRubio, for argument's sake let's give you Kobe's windmill and his crappy between the legs dunk contest slam and say Jordan "could never do them".

Here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPRyG5bOOtY

There are AT LEAST 20 dunks in that compilation that Kobe would literally need a hand transplant and 3 to 4 inches of more vert to pull off!!! And we're not even counting a bunch of contest dunks that Kobe would never even attempt.

20+ dunks> 2 dunks

Jordan kicks Kobe's as! again!

[Dro]

People were doing 360s, windmills, even through the legs slams BEFORE Jordan entered his first contest, what was stopping him from doing those things?

It's not like he had never seen them or heard of them before.

The FACT is that he was unable to perform technically advanced dunks and stuck to his simple catalog without taking any risks.

If you think his dunks look better, that is personal preference, aesthetics are strictly opinion based, but you CANNOT deny that Kobe's body of work required more skill to complete.

Only trolls and fanboys are stooping to that level, blame it on the era all you want, in that same vein you could argue that Kobe would be another step beyond MJ if he started his pro career nowadays.

Applying logic is not that difficult!
I know I'm responding to a Jordan hater but please prove this.

[CuterThanRubio]

I know I'm responding to a Jordan hater but please prove this.

Lmao@ please prove this

I'm a NBA historian, playa, I know my stuff, unlike you and many other of my haters who can't stomach the realness.

+I'm not a Jordan hater, don't label me as such just because you can't control your emotions and separate them from a legitimate discussion.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7ijzLPcx1I


^

I show AND prove!

Now back off me!

[Da_Realist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cj9blBMdjo#t=9m34s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL504R3gmcA#t=6m44s

Kobe could never even dream about doing either of these..

Exactly

[ClipperRevival]

I feel like every time I read one of CuterThanRubio's posts, I'm losing brain cells and getting dumber.

[CuterThanRubio]

I feel like every time I read one of CuterThanRubio's posts, I'm losing brain cells and getting dumber.

You are dumb and losing brain cells, that's why

An aging Jordan stan with a deteriorating mental state, I'm merely pushing you over the edge!

Sorry, lil guy!

[Bones_Jones]

Jordan's dunk rival at the time was dominque wilkins who's go to signature was the windmill. That's why you don't see Jordan do windmills and does his own take like the KISS THE RIM which is a work of art

[CuterThanRubio]

Jordan's dunk rival at the time was dominque wilkins who's go to signature was the windmill. That's why you don't see Jordan do windmills and does his own take like the KISS THE RIM which is a work of art

Second account to make this exact statement, alt alert.

The explanation makes sense, but it doesn't change the evidence in question.

Jordan can't do windmills, he half-clutches tomahawks behind his body, which are impressive in their own right but they are not the same thing.

[ClipperRevival]

Second account to make this exact statement, alt alert.

The explanation makes sense, but it doesn't change the evidence in question.

Jordan can't do windmills, he half-clutches tomahawks behind his body, which are impressive in their own right but they are not the same thing.

Just lost a few more brain cells.

[Calabis]

Jordan lacks full body coordination and fluidity to do a true windmill (full arm rotation going in one direction w/ ball swinging below waist).

http://blogcdn.champssports.com/assets/2015/04/zn8KTO4-Imgur.gif

Yeah you are right, he just can do it leaning sideways....Jordans coordination was horrible I tell ya....smh

https://68.media.tumblr.com/9f12ec872e0832bf8af0cbe146089270/tumblr_o253s1LkUJ1u2klrwo1_400.gif

Let me know when Kobe can do this

https://youtu.be/2Nb7qea2hRo

[ImKobe]

Jordan was more athletic with bigger hands, he could do about 10/20 dunks Kobe couldn't

while some of Kobe's baseline dunks looked more aesthetic, it's ridiculous to even say he was a better dunker than MJ or VC. He definitely has a bunch of great dunks worthy of maybe top 10 all-time but athletically he wasn't as gifted.

[ClipperRevival]

Jordan was more athletic with bigger hands, he could do about 10/20 dunks Kobe couldn't

while some of Kobe's baseline dunks looked more aesthetic, it's ridiculous to even say he was a better dunker than MJ or VC. He definitely has a bunch of great dunks worthy of maybe top 10 all-time but athletically he wasn't as gifted.

But that windmill doe. :oldlol:

[Prometheus]

A few others have said this, but Jordan never doing a windmill is most likely a result of his rivalry with Nique.

[Calabis]

Lmao at this dumbass statement.....he doesn't get full extension..blah blah...how can he leaning ****ing sideways? Yet he can get full extension on a dunk Kobe could never do...hell he did it in college

https://youtu.be/YbJDnd_nI4A

[Bawkish]

can Kobe do this?

http://i.makeagif.com/media/11-16-2016/S-hE1B.gif

[Showtime80']

Those two cradle dunks by Michael are the EPITOME of hang time, body control, power and artistry!!! No one has had that combination.

Notice how FAR AWAY Michael jumps on those dunks OFF OF ONE LEG and still finishes with power after the motion of the cradle!

Out of this world!

[ClipperRevival]

can Kobe do this?

http://i.makeagif.com/media/11-16-2016/S-hE1B.gif

Doesn't count. Not a windmill.

[Showtime80']

No ClipperRevival you don't understand, those are European back boards which are not as strong as American ones, LOL!!!!!!!

[Dro]

Lmao@ please prove this

I'm a NBA historian, playa, I know my stuff, unlike you and many other of my haters who can't stomach the realness.

+I'm not a Jordan hater, don't label me as such just because you can't control your emotions and separate them from a legitimate discussion.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7ijzLPcx1I


^

I show AND prove!

Now back off me!
Bro, shut up. I typed one sentence. Yet I can't "control my emotions". I'm not the one popping up in threads of a player that I hate. Plus I'm a grown ass man, I appreciate all the greats. I don't pop up in Kobe, Lebron, Jordan, Westbrook, Durant threads to hate on them I'm not the one who needs to "control my emotions".

And Ill watch that vid when I get home. I can't get on youtube at work.

[Calabis]

Those two cradle dunks by Michael are the EPITOME of hang time, body control, power and artistry!!! No one has had that combination.

Notice how FAR AWAY Michael jumps on those dunks OFF OF ONE LEG and still finishes with power after the motion of the cradle!

Out of this world!

Whats even crazier, is that both were done at the end of games, after exerting a ton of energy

[Rocketswin2013]

I don't think there's a dunk Kobe can do that Jordan can't.

[jayfan]

What a stupid thread.





.

[missionman]

this thread is funny. Like one previous poster said, "who cares?"

To the OP - I bet you my dad is stronger than yours... lol

there are professional dunkers out there that could put both these heroes to shame - and so...?

I have never seen kobe do a free throw line dunk, and i have never seen anyone (in the NBA) do a freethrow line dunk as easily with that pump than Jordan. Insane athleticism.

Also, someone in this thread said VC could never do a freethrow line dunk - i'm pretty sure i saw video of him doing that in high school (look it up on youtube). Vince was all about the power so I am guessing he did most of his dunks with two foot take offs.

to each their own opinion. VC was the best in game dunker i have ever seen

[CuterThanRubio]

Bro, shut up. I typed one sentence. Yet I can't "control my emotions". I'm not the one popping up in threads of a player that I hate. Plus I'm a grown ass man, I appreciate all the greats. I don't pop up in Kobe, Lebron, Jordan, Westbrook, Durant threads to hate on them I'm not the one who needs to "control my emotions".

And Ill watch that vid when I get home. I can't get on youtube at work.

You mad as FVCK!

You can't control your emotions, you went so far you had to come back and edit your post, calm down, son, you got mindfvcked with facts.

I know you expected to call my bluff and you got supremely owned, back down, you can't hang with me here!

I'm popping up in this thread clarifying the original claim since OP stole my original thread and decided to make another spinoff version within the span of a couple days. (this one)

Stop acting like a punk bitch and accept the truth.

Nothing I have said about this subject can be disputed!


+ You know these guys are salty and desperate when they post grainy glass backboard shattering dunks from a farm converted into a gym in the middle of Italy, you really don't think the average player, let alone one of the greatest could snap one of those?

Even Kevin Love broke one of those, gtfo!

[Ben Simons]

Stopped reading your trash post once I hit the word "would"

Nothing but woulda, coulda, shoulda, going down in here, face the facts

Weak alt nonsense trying to alter my perspective when I already solidified the truth in the first post of my original thread, step up with your real account or don't bother challenging the champ!

:hammerhead:
This is just something people with poor arguments say. We all know you read the whole thing, and you had no real counterpoint, so you pretended that you didn't read it at all. You lose. Good day sir.

[CuterThanRubio]

This is just something people with poor arguments say. We all know you read the whole thing, and you had no real counterpoint, so you pretended that you didn't read it at all. You lose. Good day sir.

I've countered every single point against me on this subject, look up the old threads for more, I don't feel like writing the same response each time, sorry.

I didn't read your last post beyond that point, and why would I care to? As usual your worthless posting goes ignored, what a surprise, time for a new account!

[Dro]

You mad as FVCK!

You can't control your emotions, you went so far you had to come back and edit your post, calm down, son, you got mindfvcked with facts.

I know you expected to call my bluff and you got supremely owned, back down, you can't hang with me here!

I'm popping up in this thread clarifying the original claim since OP stole my original thread and decided to make another spinoff version within the span of a couple days. (this one)

Stop acting like a punk bitch and accept the truth.

Nothing I have said about this subject can be disputed!


+ You know these guys are salty and desperate when they post grainy glass backboard shattering dunks from a farm converted into a gym in the middle of Italy, you really don't think the average player, let alone one of the greatest could snap one of those?

Even Kevin Love broke one of those, gtfo!
You have GOT to be trolling. lol @ mad as ****. So when someone comes back at you for being on some bullshit, they're mad? I said, Ill watch the video WHEN I GET HOME. How the **** does that turn into "Stop acting like a punk bitch and accept the truth"? :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

You are annoying as hell. And I edited my post because in my first sentence, I originally typed, "I only typed a FEW sentences". Then I edited it because I realized I actually only type ONE sentence in response to your post which makes it even more ridiculous that you would think I'm "mad" or whatever. Cause I responded with one sentence that said prove it? What do you expect when you come into Jordan threads trolling over and over? Remember you're the one who feels the need to constantly come in and hate on a player. Let me know next time you see me doing that..Oh yeah you won't...And with that, you're on ignore. Can't remember the last time I put someone on ignore but you are beyond annoying. Peace.

[CuterThanRubio]

^

Do you guys see this?

http://66.media.tumblr.com/5b359626d952d7622998e4e6098c75d5/tumblr_ne6xaup5Aj1qcwqvno2_500.gif

I'm breaking spirits and crushing feeble minds with FACTS, that's it.

Am I supposed to allow false information reign supreme?

You should be happy that I am teaching you something!


Orlando Woolridge completed a through the legs dunk in the 1984 contest

You keep making excuses for not having viewed it yet, instead raging on me and losing your composure, supposedly ignoring me but I guarantee that you will view this response



If you enlightened yourself further you would be able to discuss this topic without throwing a temper tantrum because you disagree with me

You should have studied the topic before signing up for the exam, you failed!


Consider yourself lucky that I'm not trolling, I can't even begin to imagine what kind of damage would be done, all I'm doing is supporting my argument, take it or leave it, pvssy!

http://38.media.tumblr.com/3331656bf3b6d640ead7f32ec20b765c/tumblr_msnu3fRQf91sdydefo1_400.gif

[ShawkFactory]

You mad as FVCK!

You can't control your emotions, you went so far you had to come back and edit your post, calm down, son, you got mindfvcked with facts.

I know you expected to call my bluff and you got supremely owned, back down, you can't hang with me here!

I'm popping up in this thread clarifying the original claim since OP stole my original thread and decided to make another spinoff version within the span of a couple days. (this one)

Stop acting like a punk bitch and accept the truth.

Nothing I have said about this subject can be disputed!


+ You know these guys are salty and desperate when they post grainy glass backboard shattering dunks from a farm converted into a gym in the middle of Italy, you really don't think the average player, let alone one of the greatest could snap one of those?

Even Kevin Love broke one of those, gtfo!
We don't know if the average player could do it. We've never seen it. We deal with FACTS.

[CuterThanRubio]

We don't know if the average player could do it. We've never seen it. We deal with FACTS.

Yes, we do deal with FACTS, plenty of average players have shattered those same kind of backboards, keep exposing yourselves as LOW BBIQ dumbasses with short fuses, you can't phase me, only making my point stronger, there is no counter argument other than "Jordan could have", stop it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZpljX-jnFk

^The mighty Lil' Kev broke one in high school

Let's circle back to the main concept, what does Jordan shattering poorly designed backboards have to do with him being unable to properly windmill, through the legs, or 360 dunk during games?

Kobe did and Jordan didn't

Normally, a person with more TECHNICAL ABILITY is considered better at something than a person with less, correct?

That is all I'm saying, it's not hard to understand, you don't have to catch feelings

[ShawkFactory]

Yes, we do deal with FACTS, plenty of average players have shattered those same kind of backboards, keep exposing yourselves as LOW BBIQ dumbasses with short fuses, you can't phase me, only making my point stronger, there is no counter argument other than "Jordan could have", stop it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZpljX-jnFk

^The mighty Lil' Kev broke one in high school

Let's circle back to the main concept, what does Jordan shattering poorly designed backboards have to do with him being unable to properly windmill, through the legs, or 360 dunk during games?

Kobe did and Jordan didn't

Normally, a person with more TECHNICAL ABILITY is considered better at something than a person with less, correct?

That is all I'm saying, it's not hard to understand, you don't have to catch feelings
Caught feelings? :roll:

Don't flatter yourself honey

[Smoke117]

Are you guys still seriously arguing with ctrubio about this? Jordan is a better dunker, period. Anyone with two eyes and no bias can see that.

[CuterThanRubio]

Caught feelings? :roll:

Don't flatter yourself honey

You referred to another man as "honey" over the internet, you definitely jumped way out of character with that one, was it supposed to be funny?

I feel sorry for you

Anyway, this has devolved into a Jordanite roast session and that wasn't the intent so I'm done with this subject.

[jstern]

He finally left, in a way that makes him feel like he's saving face. But Rubio got wrecked in this thread.

[julizaver]

People were doing 360s, windmills, even through the legs slams BEFORE Jordan entered his first contest, what was stopping him from doing those things?

It's not like he had never seen them or heard of them before.

The FACT is that he was unable to perform technically advanced dunks and stuck to his simple catalog without taking any risks.

If you think his dunks look better, that is personal preference, aesthetics are strictly opinion based, but you CANNOT deny that Kobe's body of work required more skill to complete.



If you are a troll probably this is the best thing you do. Otherwise is too scary to thing ... Sorry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwGoJtC_UmE

A small compilations of MJs 360s - he could performed them with ease. He don't do it in games, because it was Nique's signiture move. If you are basketball historian as you claim to be ,you should know this fact - instead of puting an absurd claims about MJ not able to perform 360. MJ had his other moves he perfected and he has his unique style.

There is no dunk Kobe did that MJ can not.

And because someone mentioned VS and to put some other things to rest - He is the greatest in game dunker of all time - not MJ or Kobe.

[Prometheus]

I've countered every single point against me on this subject, look up the old threads for more, I don't feel like writing the same response each time, sorry.

I didn't read your last post beyond that point, and why would I care to? As usual your worthless posting goes ignored, what a surprise, time for a new account!

So much cringe

[Ben Simons]

Are you guys still seriously arguing with ctrubio about this? Jordan is a better dunker, period. Anyone with two eyes and no bias can see that.
Yep, clearly a troll.

[ShawkFactory]

You referred to another man as "honey" over the internet, you definitely jumped way out of character with that one, was it supposed to be funny?

I feel sorry for you

Anyway, this has devolved into a Jordanite roast session and that wasn't the intent so I'm done with this subject.
Look who's caught feelings now :roll:

Throwing your logic back in your face has made you upset. We've never seen Kobe break on of those back boards. Therefore he probably can't.

By implying that Kobe is a better dunker because you've seen him windmill, you're also implying that the thousands of other average people who can also do it are also better dunkers.

You're being obtuse. And an angry little boy. Everyone else here feels sorry for YOU. Maybe...

[KungFuJoe]

Watch this vid. Fast forward to the middle when they get to the top ten.

https://youtu.be/UruofXufVuo

I could watch this over and over again.

Jordan had a blend of athletism, speed, grace and power that's never been seen and who knows if we'll ever see again.

I love Carters dunk on Weis and won't argue anyone saying it's the best ever but Jordans dunk on Ewing is up there (and more impressive imo) when you consider he was triple teamed and that fake on the baseline then the dunk? Do you know how hard it is to gain momentum to jump when you change direction like that? Carter had a full head of steam when he did his over Weis.

And he didn't practice or rehearse his dunks. Just literally made shit up on the fly. Even in his dunk contests.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

You referred to another man as "honey" over the internet, you definitely jumped way out of character with that one, was it supposed to be funny?

I feel sorry for you

Anyway, this has devolved into a Jordanite roast session and that wasn't the intent so I'm done with this subject.

Making an account named "CuterthanRubio", capped with an avy of dude, and you're talking about "jumping outta character"?

:oldlol:

Aside from you being a self-parody, am I missing something here?

[CuterThanRubio]

Lmao

This is comical, far beyond my expectations.

I announce my departure and the peanut gallery comes to life

You guys lost, there is nothing else to debate.

See you in the next thread!

[CuterThanRubio]

Look who's caught feelings now :roll:

Throwing your logic back in your face has made you upset. We've never seen Kobe break on of those back boards. Therefore he probably can't.

By implying that Kobe is a better dunker because you've seen him windmill, you're also implying that the thousands of other average people who can also do it are also better dunkers.

You're being obtuse. And an angry little boy. Everyone else here feels sorry for YOU. Maybe...

Alright, one more, didn't see this at first glance

+No it isn't, you didn't make a single dent in this discussion.

MJ shattered a flimsy backboard in a random European country, okay, score one for him, what about the entire catalog of slams that he has proven incapable of demonstrating in real game environments?


And sorry for what? I think the average level headed human being reading this thread is siding with me and recognizing the manic behavior of the Jordan stanbase, peep the viewcount you hater, my track record is astounding, I captivate the lurkers, you guys have never sparked memorable discussion, why bother attacking me without adding to the topic?

+If you prefer Jordan's dunks, fine, I enjoy them too, but Kobe is *technically* better than him at dunking the basketball, end of thread/

"He's running away!" No, I put you unathletic aging slobs to shame with ease and it's not worth beating a dead horse beyond recognition, feel like I've said this multiple times already.

This is old news to me, shout out to JohnMax for spreading my teachings!

*Marc Gasol dance*


:hammerhead:

[Trumpocalypse]

I think the average level headed human being reading this thread is siding with me
Please point out these people who agree with you. Only facts, remember?

[ShawkFactory]

Alright, one more, didn't see this at first glance

+No it isn't, you didn't make a single dent in this discussion.

MJ shattered a flimsy backboard in a random European country, okay, score one for him, what about the entire catalog of slams that he has proven incapable of demonstrating in real game environments?


And sorry for what? I think the average level headed human being reading this thread is siding with me and recognizing the manic behavior of the Jordan stanbase, peep the viewcount you hater, my track record is astounding, I captivate the lurkers, you guys have never sparked memorable discussion, why bother attacking me without adding to the topic?

+If you prefer Jordan's dunks, fine, I enjoy them too, but Kobe is *technically* better than him at dunking the basketball, end of thread/

"He's running away!" No, I put you unathletic aging slobs to shame with ease and it's not worth beating a dead horse beyond recognition, feel like I've said this multiple times already.

This is old news to me, shout out to JohnMax for spreading my teachings!

*Marc Gasol dance*


:hammerhead:
Im not a Jordan Stan dude. I'm 24.

To disagree with your stance does not make me one. Same with anyone else.

It seems like most people don't agree with you.

You're putting everything into what style of dunks people can and can't do. And at that...you're only using like 2 specific ones, of which there an MANY.

Not everyone values dunking the same exact way you do :confusedshrug:

[Leviathon1121]

Alright, one more, didn't see this at first glance

+No it isn't, you didn't make a single dent in this discussion.

MJ shattered a flimsy backboard in a random European country, okay, score one for him, what about the entire catalog of slams that he has proven incapable of demonstrating in real game environments?


And sorry for what? I think the average level headed human being reading this thread is siding with me and recognizing the manic behavior of the Jordan stanbase, peep the viewcount you hater, my track record is astounding, I captivate the lurkers, you guys have never sparked memorable discussion, why bother attacking me without adding to the topic?

+If you prefer Jordan's dunks, fine, I enjoy them too, but Kobe is *technically* better than him at dunking the basketball, end of thread/

"He's running away!" No, I put you unathletic aging slobs to shame with ease and it's not worth beating a dead horse beyond recognition, feel like I've said this multiple times already.

This is old news to me, shout out to JohnMax for spreading my teachings!

*Marc Gasol dance*


:hammerhead:

Kobe will never be considered a better dunker or a "technically" better dunker then Jordan by anyone other then a few Kobe fans, it infuriates you.

[Poetry]

while some of Kobe's baseline dunks looked more aesthetic
Jordan would occasionally use this dunk, but he seemed to prefer the reverse layup.

http://imgsnap.com/images/2015/11/12/MichaelJordanonManuteBolShotScience.gif

[fourkicks44]

Yes, we do deal with FACTS, plenty of average players have shattered those same kind of backboards, keep exposing yourselves as LOW BBIQ dumbasses with short fuses, you can't phase me, only making my point stronger, there is no counter argument other than "Jordan could have", stop it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZpljX-jnFk

^The mighty Lil' Kev broke one in high school

Let's circle back to the main concept, what does Jordan shattering poorly designed backboards have to do with him being unable to properly windmill, through the legs, or 360 dunk during games?

Kobe did and Jordan didn't

Normally, a person with more TECHNICAL ABILITY is considered better at something than a person with less, correct?

That is all I'm saying, it's not hard to understand, you don't have to catch feelings

No wonder he broke the backboard he was fat af in highschool :eek:

[Cocaine80s]

Nope, his hands are too small and he has a poor wingspan. Another area where Kobe trumps him