What is a Good TS% For a guard?

[CTbasketball92]

Is it 60%, or is it 56%, 65%, or 53%, etc. Just wanted your thoughts. At what point does it become Good, very good, great, or average?

[Rocketswin2013]

<56 is below average.

57 is acceptable. Perfectly normal and not excessively good or bad.

60 and beyond is where is gets elite.

[Jacks3]

league average is usually around 54%.

56% is good.

57-58% is very good.

60% is elite.

65% is best ever/GOAT level.

[Young X]

55 and above in today's league.

[Dray n Klay]

Anything above Kobe's

[noob cake]

league average is usually around 54%.

56% is good.

57-58% is very good.

60% is elite.

65% is best ever/GOAT level.

GOAT you say? James is averaging 30/13/8 on 64% TS

[Sarcastic]

league average is usually around 54%.

56% is good.

57-58% is very good.

60% is elite.

65% is best ever/GOAT level.


Well you have to apply context, as you do with all stats, rather than just make blanket statements like that.

Tyson Chandler's 70.8% in 2012 was certainly great, but he shot at such a low volume that it's hard to put him in GOAT class.

Adrian Dantley was the TS king, but I hardly if ever see him even on a top 20 list all time.

[Cold soul]

55 and above in today's league.

Yup.

[scuzzy]

Anything above Kobe's

Pretty much


Just find the median between Lebrons TS and Kobe's TS


And thats the TS benchmark

[tpols]

Well you have to apply context, as you do with all stats, rather than just make blanket statements like that.

Tyson Chandler's 70.8% in 2012 was certainly great, but he shot at such a low volume that it's hard to put him in GOAT class.

Adrian Dantley was the TS king, but I hardly if ever see him even on a top 20 list all time.


his chart makes sense given equal volume..


obviously a low volume center can achieve maximum TS.. he can also get maximum FG, does that mean we cant use field goal percentage either ?

Dantley is known to be one of the greatest scorers ever.. its just from what ive read he lacked in all other aspects of the game apparently and was a bit of a blackhole.



either way..



TS = pure most logical method for measuring scoring efficiency

ORTG = pure most logical method for measuring possesion efficiency (basicaly TS + ast:TO)



^^thats how people should be looking at efficiency and weighting for volume / situation as well.

[C-Green]

GOAT you say? James is averaging 30/13/8 on 64% TS
Are we still talking just for guards with these percentages?

[feyki]

league average is usually around 54%.

56% is good.

57-58% is very good.

60% is elite.

65% is best ever/GOAT level.

Exactly . But for the since 80's . Before 80's league was tougher due to with playing basketball w/out handcheck ban or illegal D .

[Jacks3]

also league-average TS were significantly lower from 99-04.

so a 56% ts in a year like 2003 (52% TS league-average) is closer to excellent than merely good.

[Jacks3]

Are we still talking just for guards with these percentages?

no. that's everybody. obviously you also have to consider role/usage/volume etc.

[feyki]

also league-average TS were significantly lower from 99-04.

so a 56% ts in a year like 2003 (52% TS league-average) is closer to excellent than merely good.

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1996-97

[SamuraiSWISH]

TS is stupid. Let's combine non defended, FREE shots, awarded to a player by total referee discretion. And average it out with shots that are 3 points, as well as tightly contested mid-range or attempts at the basket. It's an arbitrary number.

[Dray n Klay]

Funny how Jordanites get insecure whenever TS% is used




Another stat that exposes Jordan for being an inefficient chucker



He shot a putrid 47%TS his last two seasons, just an embarrassment

[feyki]

TS is stupid. Let's combine non defended, FREE shots, awarded to a player by total referee discretion. And average it out with shots that are 3 points, as well as tightly contested mid-range or attempts at the basket. It's an arbitrary number.

TS% means points per shot possesions/2 ( to showing as percentages ) .

[CTbasketball92]

TS is stupid. Let's combine non defended, FREE shots, awarded to a player by total referee discretion. And average it out with shots that are 3 points, as well as tightly contested mid-range or attempts at the basket. It's an arbitrary number.

I understand where you're coming from. What if you're just capable of creating a good shot for yourself, and shoot over 40% from 3 and 48% from the field, but don't get to the line much? I think it's a good metric, but not necessarily the best way to evaluate someone's scoring ability.

[Sarcastic]

I understand where you're coming from. What if you're just capable of creating a good shot for yourself, and shoot over 40% from 3 and 48% from the field, but don't get to the line much? I think it's a good metric, but not necessarily the best way to evaluate someone's scoring ability.

In that case you'd have to look at point per shot.