If the warriors don't win the finals

[AirBonner]

It will be the biggest upset ever. 5 franchise players on one team...

[Mike smith]

It will be the biggest upset ever. 5 franchise players on one team...
Who are the 5??

[AirBonner]

Who are the 5??
Curry, Durant, Thompson, Dray, Iggy

[J Shuttlesworth]

I don't think anybody has lost with 4 all stars on their team since young Kobe

[AirBonner]

I don't think anybody has lost with 4 all stars on their team since young Kobe
and if they do lose the torch will have officially been passed :lol

[tpols]

Elementary analysis.

poor troll attempt...

[Young X]

I don't know about "biggest upset ever", but they f*cking better win the championship. And do it convincingly. They leave no margin for error with all that talent they have. There's almost nothing they can do that will be impressive to me.

[FreezingTsmoove]

I don't think anybody has lost with 4 all stars on their team since young Kobe

Pistons had 4 all stars as well you dumb bitch

[BeastMode24]

ITT a 33 year old averaging 5 ppg is a "franchise" player

[warriorfan]

Pistons had 4 all stars as well you dumb bitch

He is a Cavaliers fan from San Diego, he isn't a real fan :lol

[AirBonner]

He is a Cavaliers fan from San Diego, he isn't a real fan :lol
and you are a fat Mexican :confusedshrug:

[warriorfan]

and you are a fat Mexican :confusedshrug:
:wtf:

:roll:

[tpols]

I don't know about "biggest upset ever", but they f*cking better win the championship. And do it convincingly. They leave no margin for error with all that talent they have. There's almost nothing they can do that will be impressive to me.



it would be a miracle if Golden State survives the Clipper - Spurs - Cavs gauntlet they will likely have to face given their lack of defense and size .. those monster frontcourts are the perfect antidote for them unfortunately...



if your expectations are for them to run through it convincingly you just havent been watching basketball the past month and/or you dont understand what wins in the playoffs.

[hold this L]

it would be a miracle if Golden State survives the Clipper - Spurs - Cavs gauntlet they will likely have to face given their lack of defense and size .. those monster frontcourts are the perfect antidote for them unfortunately...



if your expectations are for them to run through it convincingly you just havent been watching basketball the past month and/or you dont understand what wins in the playoffs.
If Warriors finish first, they likely won't have to play both the Clippers and Spurs though.

[Young X]

it would be a miracle if Golden State survives the Clipper - Spurs - Cavs gauntlet they will likely have to face given their lack of defense and size .. those monster frontcourts are the perfect antidote for them unfortunately...



if your expectations are for them to run through it convincingly you just havent been watching basketball the past month and/or you dont understand what wins in the playoffs.LOL @ "miracle". We're not even a month into this season and you're already making excuses.

The firepower they have is unprecedented. If they don't figure it out and find a way to fix whatever issues they have, that's their problem. Don't expect us not to view that as a huge disappointment.

[tpols]

LOL @ "miracle". We're not even a month into this season and you're already making excuses.

The firepower they have is unprecedented. If they don't figure it out and find a way to fix whatever issues they have, that's their problem. Don't expect us not to view that as a huge disappointment.


ive been saying this for many months my friend...


There's no "figuring out" to be had.. they seriously lack size. it's simple physics.. Warriors will need to get HOT for 2-3 series in a row how they were in the WCFs last year, because thats what it took for them to overcome bully ball of Adams, Kanter and Ibaka banging them out down low. This time they will have to face even more formidable frontcourts with less size than they had last year.


just dont be shocked when it happens..

[Young X]

So we can have a situation where 2 MVP's and 4 All-NBA team members can team up, not win the championship and it shouldn't be seen as a huge disappointment and failure. Is that what you're telling us, tpols?

Basically, they're in a win/win situation with you.

[Dray n Klay]

Lol why do I have a feeling tpols never gave the 2010-2014 Heat a pass for "lacking size"



Seems like another Kobe troll that likes to flip flop agendas

[tpols]

im just looking at it from a basketball perspective.. the only failure will be on Kevin Durant for breaking up the system.


But even if they lose this year that doesnt mean they will be failures.. all they need to do is sign a chris anderson esque guy over the summer to protect the rim for them.


Until that happens their chances are pretty slim because i cant see them blowing up for multiple series in a row (which is what it would take to win given their current defensive situation). They have shown us many times that they go hot and cold.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Ish :oldlol: :facepalm

[tpols]

Lol why do I have a feeling tpols never gave the 2010-2014 Heat a pass for "lacking size"



Seems like another Kobe troll that likes to flip flop agendas


The Heat played in a garbage conference dude..

If the warriors got to have a playoff path of


Sixers
Bucks
Bulls
Mavs


i would be very surprised if they lost.. because not only is that playoff path a joke by comparison, but it also stylistically matches up well for them. The only threat would be Dallas and they didnt bang down low at all, they were a jumpshooting team.

[Young X]

They faced the Celtics, Bulls and Mavs in 2011. That is absolutely legit competition. You still didn't give them a pass.

[Bankaii]

it would be a miracle if Golden State survives the Clipper - Spurs - Cavs gauntlet they will likely have to face given their lack of defense and size .. those monster frontcourts are the perfect antidote for them unfortunately...



if your expectations are for them to run through it convincingly you just havent been watching basketball the past month and/or you dont understand what wins in the playoffs.
You're so pathetic:roll:

[tpols]

They faced the Celtics, Bulls and Mavs in 2011. That is absolutely legit competition. You still didn't give them a pass.




The clippers, spurs and cavaliers are signifigantly better than all of those teams and its not all that close tbh..

[Dray n Klay]

LOL the 2011 East was actually a very tough conference, now I know tpols is just trolling :lol


The 2011 East > 2011, 2015, 2016 West




lmao at the 2011 East being a "garbage conference"

[Young X]

The clippers, spurs and cavaliers are signifigantly better than all of those teams and its not all that close tbh..Same could be said for the Warriors vs. the 2011 Heat...

[Smoke117]

My boy tpols bringing the heavy cringe in this one.

[CuhGetsBucks]

How do you guys enjoy basketball if you can only see it from one perspective? The 2011 Heat don't get a pass but the 2015 warriors with an all star, GOAT shooter, GOAT spot up shooter and an all time great scorer don't get a pass? That shit is so corny.

[warriorfan]

How do you guys enjoy basketball if you can only see it from one perspective? The 2011 Heat don't get a pass but the 2015 warriors with an all star, GOAT shooter, GOAT spot up shooter and an all time great scorer don't get a pass? That shit is so corny.

Did you see Klay and Dray in the Olympics? You are severely overrating those guys :oldlol:

[CuhGetsBucks]

Did you see Klay and Dray in the Olympics? You are severely overrating those guys :oldlol:
The Curry effect applies when Curry is playing, with Curry, Klay is an all time great shooter and Dray is a jack of all trades. They have great amount if chemistry and just added an all time scorer. What's the beef?

[Bankaii]

LOL the 2011 East was actually a very tough conference, now I know tpols is just trolling :lol


The 2011 East > 2011, 2015, 2016 West




lmao at the 2011 East being a "garbage conference"
Seriously even you are right for once.
Bulls had the best record in the league, the Heat with Lebron/Wade, the Celtics coming off getting screwed out of a ring the year before, and the Magic led by Dwight. The East was far from weak that year.


The Heat played in a garbage conference dude..

If the warriors got to have a playoff path of


Sixers
Bucks
Bulls
Mavs.
Tpols in here revising history because of his anti-Lebron agenda again. They didn't even play the bucks because they didn't make the playoffs that year:oldlol:

[MiseryCityTexas]

The Curry effect applies when Curry is playing, with Curry, Klay is an all time great shooter and Dray is a jack of all trades. They have great amount if chemistry and just added an all time scorer. What's the beef?

If Draymond Green played on a team like the Hornets or Pelicans, he would be exposed for the role player caliber that he actually is.

[CuhGetsBucks]

If Draymond Green played on a team like the Hornets or Pelicans, he would be exposed for the role player caliber that he actually is.
I understand, I don't disagree with that but he does play for the Warriors and with Steph and Klay. So we have to rate him using the factors that are given to us. Kawhi wouldn't be Kawhi if he was drafted by the Kings. Some D-League player could probably be giving the Spurs decent minutes right now. But they aren't, that's life

[BigKAT]

I understand, I don't disagree with that but he does play for the Warriors and with Steph and Klay. So we have to rate him using the factors that are given to us. Kawhi wouldn't be Kawhi if he was drafted by the Kings. Some D-League player could probably be giving the Spurs decent minutes right now. But they aren't, that's life

There's a bit of truth to what you say.
System/Situation/Coaching can really change a player's trajectory.

J.R Smith turned from reckless gunner to one of the best 3-D guys in the league and a Starter on a Championship team.

Nick Young is looking like a Preimere Defender after early predictions he'll be waived.

Lance Stephenson looked like a triple double machine in Indiana, and now he can't even get minutes on quality teams.

[Bankaii]

If Draymond Green played on a team like the Hornets or Pelicans, he would be exposed for the role player caliber that he actually is.
Outside of being a role player Curry in the same situation would get exposed too.
They BOTH benefit from the system and BOTH would look sooo much worse on an average team.

[tpols]

My boy tpols bringing the heavy cringe in this one.


i'm not your boy, blue.

[tpols]

If Draymond Green played on a team like the Hornets or Pelicans, he would be exposed for the role player caliber that he actually is.


word.


and i love dray.. his personality.. his demeanor and fire. But if he was on any other team, he would be the second round pick hustle guy off the bench.

[hold this L]

Outside of being a role player Curry in the same situation would get exposed too.
They BOTH benefit from the system and BOTH would look sooo much worse on an average team.
This is an idiotic statement, moreso than the ones where Green would look like a scrub written above. First of all, Curry is the system for the Warriors. And Green is an elite defender. It doesn't matter what club he goes to, that would never change. He also put up one of the best NBA final games in recent years. Green is the second most complete player in the NBA today. None of this would change if he plays with Pelicans or the Warriors. Yeah he benefits due space wise due to Steph's gravity and 4v3 due to P&Rs. That doesn't somehow diminish his amazing qualities. Green makes any team significantly better since he does all the dirty work and offers plenty to improve all their teammates.

Chalk this up to the dumbest comments on ish, which is impressive considering there's a 13 year old bran/KD stan that has like 15 alts filled with terrible comments on ish everyday.

[tpols]

I understand, I don't disagree with that but he does play for the Warriors and with Steph and Klay. So we have to rate him using the factors that are given to us. Kawhi wouldn't be Kawhi if he was drafted by the Kings. Some D-League player could probably be giving the Spurs decent minutes right now. But they aren't, that's life


the warriors and spurs are the only teams in this league with an A+ player development program. and that's exactly why players from both tend to get so overrated as individual talents...

[CuhGetsBucks]

the warriors and spurs are the only teams in this league with an A+ player development program. and that's exactly why players from both tend to get so overrated as individual talents...
So if we have to overrate the talents, what gives Curry the pass? I don't think Curry is a product of the system but if you think this, what makes him any different from Dray and Klay?

[tpols]

So if we have to overrate the talents, what gives Curry the pass? I don't think Curry is a product of the system but if you think this, what makes him any different from Dray and Klay?


i've already admitted my stance on curry after the '16 playoffs.. hes a great all time weapon, but the hot and cold nature of spamming 3 pt shots will always make his game inconsistent.. if he had to win just one series on his back? id take him. But 2-3 in a row? it's just not going to happen. Once the opponent realizes his shot isnt falling its like a shark smelling blood in the water...

[Bankaii]

This is an idiotic statement, moreso than the ones where Green would look like a scrub written above. First of all, Curry is the system for the Warriors. And Green is an elite defender. It doesn't matter what club he goes to, that would never change. He also put up one of the best NBA final games in recent years. Green is the second most complete player in the NBA today. None of this would change if he plays with Pelicans or the Warriors. Yeah he benefits due space wise due to Steph's gravity and 4v3 due to P&Rs. That doesn't somehow diminish his amazing qualities. Green makes any team significantly better since he does all the dirty work and offers plenty to improve all their teammates.

Chalk this up to the dumbest comments on ish, which is impressive considering there's a 13 year old bran/KD stan that has like 15 alts filled with terrible comments on ish everyday.
So you think if Draymond was in the Kings he'd still be getting All-NBA teams, All-D teams, and talks of being top 15-20 in the league? If you do you're an idiot.
Dray' said a great player, but the Warriors' system definitely makes him look better than he is. And outside of it he wouldn't be nearly as effective.

As far as Curry goes, the Warriors look great right now and Curry isn't even the best player on the team. Stats from before KD joined proved the Warriors without Steph weren't that much worse if at all. So this whole "Curry is the system" bs needs to stop.
Curry on the Kings isn't getting BITW talks, period. He also benefits from being surrounded by a great coaching staff, system, and teammates.
If he played on a team with no ball movement where he was expected to just run the offense by himself, he would suffer.

Chalk this up as another Golden State "fan" that conveniently popped up right after the Warriors got good and has is a giant moron.

[warriorfan]

So you think if Draymond was in the Kings he'd still be getting All-NBA teams, All-D teams, and talks of being top 15-20 in the league? If you do you're an idiot.
Dray' said a great player, but the Warriors' system definitely makes him look better than he is. And outside of it he wouldn't be nearly as effective.

As far as Curry goes, the Warriors look great right now and Curry isn't even the best player on the team. Stats from before KD joined proved the Warriors without Steph weren't that much worse if at all. So this whole "Curry is the system" bs needs to stop.
Curry on the Kings isn't getting BITW talks, period. He also benefits from being surrounded by a great coaching staff, system, and teammates.
If he played on a team with no ball movement where he was expected to just run the offense by himself, he would suffer.

Chalk this up as another Golden State "fan" that conveniently popped up right after the Warriors got good and has is a giant moron.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

dumbest shit ever :roll:

[Cali Syndicate]

Lol

A championship is excpected. Nothing less. Another month and watch the warriors hit their stride. The glimpses that they've shown is unreal. Mcgee will get more playing time too and the will fill some of that void on the boards.

[AirBonner]

Lol

A championship is excpected. Nothing less. Another month and watch the warriors hit their stride. The glimpses that they've shown is unreal. Mcgee will get more playing time too and the will fill some of that void on the boards.
Mcgee is not going to be a warriors "savior" so much wishful thinking from warrior fans :oldlol:

[Cali Syndicate]

So you think if Draymond was in the Kings he'd still be getting All-NBA teams, All-D teams, and talks of being top 15-20 in the league? If you do you're an idiot.
Dray' said a great player, but the Warriors' system definitely makes him look better than he is. And outside of it he wouldn't be nearly as effective.

As far as Curry goes, the Warriors look great right now and Curry isn't even the best player on the team. Stats from before KD joined proved the Warriors without Steph weren't that much worse if at all. So this whole "Curry is the system" bs needs to stop.
Curry on the Kings isn't getting BITW talks, period. He also benefits from being surrounded by a great coaching staff, system, and teammates.
If he played on a team with no ball movement where he was expected to just run the offense by himself, he would suffer.

Chalk this up as another Golden State "fan" that conveniently popped up right after the Warriors got good and has is a giant moron.

Curry was averaging like 33 6 and 6 in their win streak prior to last night.

[Cali Syndicate]

Mcgee is not going to be a warriors "savior" so much wishful thinking from warrior fans :oldlol:

I said he will fill "some" of the void on the boards. How does that equate to savior? You retarded bruh?

[MiseryCityTexas]

Outside of being a role player Curry in the same situation would get exposed too.
They BOTH benefit from the system and BOTH would look sooo much worse on an average team.

False. Curry still put up solid numbers even when his Warriors teams sucked ass.

[AirBonner]

I said he will fill "some" of the void on the boards. How does that equate to savior? You retarded bruh?
I don't see him filling a void. He has not found a place in the nba so he will magically find one on the warriors? nah.

[jrjim]

False. Curry still put up solid numbers even when his Warriors teams sucked ass.

Exposed, in the sense that he wouldnt be getting greatest peak RS ever type talks. Dude would still be a superstar, but he aint no Lebron/Jordan/Shaq type player that would be GOATing it on any team

[Bankaii]

False. Curry still put up solid numbers even when his Warriors teams sucked ass.
So solid and not even being mentioned as a top 5 player is the same as averaging 30 a game and getting arguments for top 2?

Dude became good when his team became good.
Put a Curry on the Kings and he's not getting called a top 3 player. The fact that some of you don't understand this is appalling.

[CuhGetsBucks]

So solid and not even being mentioned as a top 5 player is the same as averaging 30 a game and getting arguments for top 2?

Dude became good when his team became good.
Put a Curry on the Kings and he's not getting called a top 3 player. The fact that some of you don't understand this is appalling.
Damn this was a very well constructed and great point.

But we shouldn't really knock him for that, LeBron and KD are the only players in the league I believe could single handedly lift a lottery team into a top 3 seeded team. I think it's clear Curry never had that ability although being a phenomenal player. His playstyle just doesn't allow that. As if he goes cold which could happen with great shooting, it wouldn't allow his play making ability to still be effective.

[warriorfan]

Damn this was a very well constructed and great point.

But we shouldn't really knock him for that, LeBron and KD are the only players in the league I believe could single handedly lift a lottery team into a top 3 seeded team. I think it's clear Curry never had that ability although being a phenomenal player. His playstyle just doesn't allow that. As if he goes cold which could happen with great shooting, it wouldn't allow his play making ability to still be effective.

Curry has more impact than KD and LeBron is close

KD has never had seasonal on/off numbers like Curry has...and you can't say KD has not played on good teams

[AirBonner]

Curry has more impact than KD and LeBron is close

KD has never had seasonal on/off numbers like Curry has...and you can't say KD has not played on good teams
literally the stupidest thing said today

[CuhGetsBucks]

Curry has more impact than KD and LeBron is close

KD has never had seasonal on/off numbers like Curry has...and you can't say KD has not played on good teams
Replace Boogie with Zaza and insert Steph on the kings, you think they could reach a top 3 in the West?

[Bankaii]

Damn this was a very well constructed and great point.

But we shouldn't really knock him for that, LeBron and KD are the only players in the league I believe could single handedly lift a lottery team into a top 3 seeded team. I think it's clear Curry never had that ability although being a phenomenal player. His playstyle just doesn't allow that. As if he goes cold which could happen with great shooting, it wouldn't allow his play making ability to still be effective.
No doubt, I agree 100%. He's a ATG player on an ATG team.
But his impact isn't anywhere near other superstars.
Look at Harden/Westbrook. Even though Curry is the better player of the bunch he wouldn't have anywhere near the success those 2 are having.
His impact on a bad team wouldn't nearly be as impressive.

I agree though, only Lebron/KD are truly capable of carrying for instance the Nets to contention.

[Cali Syndicate]

So solid and not even being mentioned as a top 5 player is the same as averaging 30 a game and getting arguments for top 2?

Dude became good when his team became good.
Put a Curry on the Kings and he's not getting called a top 3 player. The fact that some of you don't understand this is appalling.

not true. curry has always been a good player. arguably roy, had really good second season despite playing on on a busted ankle the entire season. third seasonwas good til they decided to be safe and sit him then started tanking. then w/o ellis, curry got to run the show and when warriors made the playoffs, people got to see what he was about, which was amongst the top pgs in the league. he has continuously gotten better season after season and hit an unbelevable and historical stride last season. warriors were built around curry and grew with him. lets not act like this happened overnight. but curry's talent would have been there no matter what.

[Cali Syndicate]

No doubt, I agree 100%. He's a ATG player on an ATG team.
But his impact isn't anywhere near other superstars.
Look at Harden/Westbrook. Even though Curry is the better player of the bunch he wouldn't have anywhere near the success those 2 are having.
His impact on a bad team wouldn't nearly be as impressive.

I agree though, only Lebron/KD are truly capable of carrying for instance the Nets to contention.

this is based on what exactly? this is just a blind assumption that can be made about any player for just about every regard.

[Prime_Shaq]

Outside of being a role player Curry in the same situation would get exposed too.
They BOTH benefit from the system and BOTH would look sooo much worse on an average team.
Agreed on the second statement but first statement is completely false.

After he got over his ankles issues, his averages in...

2012/2013: 23 ppg 7 apg 1.6 spg on 45/45/90
2013/2014: 24 ppg 8.5 apg 1.6 spg on 47/42/88

At this was with the iso-heavy offense from Marc Jackson.

[Prime_Shaq]

Curry, Durant, Thompson, Dray, Iggy
Iggy and Draymond are definitely not franchise players.

[ArbitraryWater]

it would be a miracle if Golden State survives the Clipper - Spurs - Cavs gauntlet they will likely have to face given their lack of defense and size .. those monster frontcourts are the perfect antidote for them unfortunately...



if your expectations are for them to run through it convincingly you just havent been watching basketball the past month and/or you dont understand what wins in the playoffs.

:oldlol:

[Heavincent]

It would be an upset but I wouldn't be shocked if they lost to LAC, SA, or CLE.

[tpols]

:oldlol:


What you laughing at weener snitchel ?

[Bankaii]

this is based on what exactly? this is just a blind assumption that can be made about any player for just about every regard.

Agreed on the second statement but first statement is completely false.

After he got over his ankles issues, his averages in...

2012/2013: 23 ppg 7 apg 1.6 spg on 45/45/90
2013/2014: 24 ppg 8.5 apg 1.6 spg on 47/42/88

At this was with the iso-heavy offense from Marc Jackson.
Curry started playing at an ATG in 2015, which is the same year Klay made his first All-NBA team, Dray became a starter, Kerr came in, and the awarriors team simply got all-around better. Do you really think that's just a coincidence?

Curry was a good, maybe even great, player before the warriors became elite, but he didn't reach top 5 in the league level until his team became elite.

Curry on a bad team with no system like the Nets/Pels, similar to 2009/10 Lebron, wouldn't make the playoffs. Unlike Lebron/KD who have shown they can carry trash teams to contention.

[warriorfan]

Curry started playing at an ATG in 2015, which is the same year Klay made his first All-NBA team, Dray became a starter, Kerr came in, and the awarriors team simply got all-around better. Do you really think that's just a coincidence?

Curry was a good, maybe even great, player before the warriors became elite, but he didn't reach top 5 in the league level until his team became elite.

Curry on a bad team with no system like the Nets/Pels, similar to 2009/10 Lebron, wouldn't make the playoffs. Unlike Lebron/KD who have shown they can carry trash teams to contention.

No, they all continually improved together, individually and as a team, that is what happens when a player sticks with the team he is originally drafted with instead of jumping ship at first opportunity

[Old Man River]

agreed no more excuses. lebron is better than anyone on the warriors roster but durant is right there behind him so it was a close 4-3 series for Cavs to win it, now you just added Durant so it should be a 4-2 series win for the warriors now.

[Old Man River]

No, they all continually improved together, individually and as a team, that is what happens when a player sticks with the team he is originally drafted with instead of jumping ship at first opportunity
no he's right curry is good but not great and benefits from great teammates. no shame in admitting it. warriors are a great team. no denying that.

[warriorfan]

no he's right curry is good but not great and benefits from great teammates. no shame in admitting it. warriors are a great team. no denying that.

Sure Curry benefits from his teammates, as all players do

But his teammates definitely benefit more from him than he does from them

https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/4bYYPLGiZavZr6odQMT2_61HGAc=/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3783750/warriorsball.0.gif

http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/55785bd86da811a06574389c/draymond%20miss%201.gif

https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/game-3-4.gif

http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/557856666bb3f7950ef731a9/stephen%20curry%203.gif


Let's be serious, Curry runs the show, it all starts with him

[Bankaii]

Sure Curry benefits from his teammates, as all players do

But his teammates definitely benefit more from him than he does from them

Let's be serious, Curry runs the show, it all starts with him
No, they benefit equally from each other.
Curry outside of the Kerr system isn't going to get arguments for BITW.
Besides, we've seen how he plays without those illegal screens, and it's not pretty:oldlol:

[warriorfan]

No, they benefit equally from each other.
Curry outside of the Kerr system isn't going to get arguments for BITW.
Besides, we've seen how he plays without those illegal screens, and it's not pretty:oldlol:

Oh god "illegal screens"

Someone get this kid a ****ing tissue

[Mr. Jabbar]

this thread smells like expensive cologne. its him..

its The Playboy.

:pimp: :pimp:

[Bankaii]

Oh god "illegal screens"

Someone get this kid a ****ing tissue
Cry all you want to. Curry without those screens is nothing but an inefficient chucker.

[Old Man River]

Sure Curry benefits from his teammates, as all players do

But his teammates definitely benefit more from him than he does from them

https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/4bYYPLGiZavZr6odQMT2_61HGAc=/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3783750/warriorsball.0.gif

http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/55785bd86da811a06574389c/draymond%20miss%201.gif

https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/game-3-4.gif

http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/557856666bb3f7950ef731a9/stephen%20curry%203.gif


Let's be serious, Curry runs the show, it all starts with him
false just a solid jump shooter draymond is the real pg there

[warriorfan]

this thread smells like expensive cologne. its him..

its The Playboy.

:pimp: :pimp:

:pimp:

[warriorfan]

Cry all you want to. Curry without those screens is nothing but an inefficient chucker.

You are ****ing stupid :oldlol:

[GimmeThat]

well, I guess humanity has created way too many occupations

we should really consider something else, such as the possibility of colossal failures when a machine doesn't work


unfortunately, unless you're heavily dependent on drugs, there isn't going to be a machine that could take over a human's life

5 franchise player? OP can't possibly be insinuating that there are people that genuinely enjoy being a monkey. even if we were to consider the reality that the rest of the league don't pay their players since they don't win.

a lot less people would really be talking sh*t.

but to be in OP's world, why would 5 people who could win can't win? I suppose powerful people can be corrupted.

or just a lot of people that wants power, because


this is where I got lost last time, then I got stuck somewhere where if you make it somewhere first, then you are somehow the assumed winner

[Lebronxrings]

the warriors are a great jump shooting team, but that can only take you so far. Once they get their ass beat in the paint, boards and post yall will see. Nobody fears the warriors like they do lebron.

[Prime_Shaq]

well, I guess humanity has created way too many occupations

we should really consider something else, such as the possibility of colossal failures when a machine doesn't work


unfortunately, unless you're heavily dependent on drugs, there isn't going to be a machine that could take over a human's life

5 franchise player? OP can't possibly be insinuating that there are people that genuinely enjoy being a monkey. even if we were to consider the reality that the rest of the league don't pay their players since they don't win.

a lot less people would really be talking sh*t.

but to be in OP's world, why would 5 people who could win can't win? I suppose powerful people can be corrupted.

or just a lot of people that wants power, because


this is where I got lost last time, then I got stuck somewhere where if you make it somewhere first, then you are somehow the assumed winner
Erm.. What

[34-24 Footwork]

If Curry without a screen is a chucker, then Lebron without travelling is Gerald Wallace.

[kamil]

If Curry without a screen is a chucker, then Lebron without travelling is Gerald Wallace.

He's still got the stiff-arm.

[hold this L]

So you think if Draymond was in the Kings he'd still be getting All-NBA teams, All-D teams, and talks of being top 15-20 in the league? If you do you're an idiot.
Dray' said a great player, but the Warriors' system definitely makes him look better than he is. And outside of it he wouldn't be nearly as effective.
How does being an elite DPOY level player lower when you move to another team? Is his ability to box out, rebound, steal, block, organize the defense by constantly talking to his teammates going to go out the fcking window? His ability to push his teammates when shit goes down (once in a while his personality backfires, but mostly it's on point). That isn't going to go away. He's also a pretty good passer, not elite but this is where the system and Curry make him look better. Spacing, P&Rs and system where he gets tons of space to be a second playmaker on the team. Dray is the best glue guy in the NBA with elite level D and pretty good passing ability. Any team would bend over to get him.


As far as Curry goes, the Warriors look great right now and Curry isn't even the best player on the team. Stats from before KD joined proved the Warriors without Steph weren't that much worse if at all. So this whole "Curry is the system" bs needs to stop.
Curry on the Kings isn't getting BITW talks, period. He also benefits from being surrounded by a great coaching staff, system, and teammates.
If he played on a team with no ball movement where he was expected to just run the offense by himself, he would suffer.
He isn't the best on the team so far into this season thanks to KD playing like an absolute monster, but he's still the system. Here's some interesting facts for ya. When Curry is on the field, Kerr runs almost no plays in the game. When Durant is there by himself, they run a ton of plays. Steph and Dray have a seamless system where they freestyle the way the game is played. The game is also a hell lot more dynamic when he's on court, even when his shot is off. His +/- being the best despite not even being the best player shows this. He did play that iso system before and was still a great player after his injuries, it was under a dumbass who commentates Warrior games with nothing but bitterness. He's only improved since.

If you think this level of Steph wouldn't have every single team form a system so he can do his magic, you're deluding yourself. If Steph went to any team right now, they would all put huge emphasis on 'legal' :pimp: screens to set him free. He would make any team instantly better simply by being on the court. His gravity is something no player has ever come close to. That is instantly going to make it easier for every single player in this league. Just look at the Pacer game. Steph gets the ball with 2 seconds left for a full court shot and another player leaves one of the greatest scorers of all time wide open to double on Steph. That's impact.

Here's this. You put Steph on by far the worst team in the league in the Nets. Bring in a healthy Simmons and he makes top 3-4 in the East, ECF or semis if they end up vs the Cavs. That's the kind of impact I believe he would make. After Bron, he is the player that has the most impact in the game today, and the main reason is due to elite D by Bron that edges this. I can see people arguing that KD might get better results but that's not due to team impact but individual impact of being one of the best scorers. Saying KD has more impact on the team on the other hand would be a moronic statement.

Curry benefits from great coaching, system and players? No shit? The sky.. is it also blue? Because Curry might be the only person who benefits from coaching and players, unlike every other player in the NBA. I guess he benefits in a similar way that Lebron benefited to make a super team because he couldn't win anything at the team he was at?


Chalk this up as another Golden State "fan" that conveniently popped up right after the Warriors got good and has is a giant moron.
Dude you're a moron to attempts to be objective. You write meaningless what if scenarios. Here's reality for you dipsht. Curry is a B2B MVP player, the greatest shooter of all time, an NBA champion who beat your hero whose ass you can't stop kissing and has the 73-9 best regular season of all time that he led. These are facts, and none of your imaginary if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle scenarios change that. And guess what? He's going to continue winning a few more championships before he retires, likely 1 or 2 vs Lebron. And just like the Heat days when people thought that Lebron's rings won't count if he wins them (which I found hilarious), it won't change anything in these next few years as well. I haven't lived there for 11? years, but I always find the offtopic comments hilarious in a debate. Usually a good sign that you don't have anything useful to say. Want to talk about my shoes next time I confront your bullshit? Before you say anything, I don't wear any Currys :lol

Ok, time to get back to work now. :lol