View Full Version : Raptors Just Got Robbed!
n00bie
11-21-2016, 12:51 AM
Seriously I've never seen something like this before. They started the clock late by accident? How would a player know when to get off a shot if they can't rely on the shot clock?
Does that mean each home arena can do the same on every last shot?
warriorfan
11-21-2016, 12:53 AM
Welcome to sacramento :roll:
avonbarksdale
11-21-2016, 12:54 AM
officials **** up so raptors get screwed
FreezingTsmoove
11-21-2016, 12:55 AM
Thats crazy the same thing happened earlier in Michigan State to Florida Gulf Coast
bigkingsfan
11-21-2016, 12:55 AM
:D
Mr. Jabbar
11-21-2016, 12:58 AM
Welcome to sacramento :roll:
excremento :lol
warriorfan
11-21-2016, 01:00 AM
excremento :lol
:roll: :roll:
Kungfro
11-21-2016, 01:01 AM
Kenny going off.
http://imageshack.com/a/img922/6171/zVN5rF.jpg
Dray n Klay
11-21-2016, 01:02 AM
Now you know how Kings fans felt after the 2002 WCF
JebronLames
11-21-2016, 01:04 AM
Now you know how Kings fans felt after the 2002 WCF
Also, blazers fans in 2000 and Celtics fans in 2010.
yeaaaman
11-21-2016, 01:15 AM
That makes no sense at all. I'm waiting for the NBA's embarassing explanation for this come tomorrow. Like everyone else said, how is it the players responsibility to know if the clock is started on time or not/how much time is left if they can't rely on the people to do their jobs, and then the'll get punished.
Dumbest call ever, they should at least reset the clock and do the play over although that would be stupid as is it would make much more sense than this.
Finger Roll
11-21-2016, 01:42 AM
what a joke..
might be one of the worst things ive ever seen
Knicksfever2010
11-21-2016, 01:42 AM
Am I missing something? On the telecast they said the ball was tipped and upon review from Secaucus, NJ, they timed it and concluded that the player didn't get the shot off in time.
Lebronxrings
11-21-2016, 01:44 AM
must be a California thing
macmac
11-21-2016, 01:45 AM
So disgusting, makes me not want to watch basketball again. I mean what poor judgement. Shouldn't the refs discuss it amongst themselves and realize this ruling makes zero sense. Not to mention, there's videos that show that even with the tip he still got it in on time. These randoms decisions make the NBA seem real fkin bush league.
Finger Roll
11-21-2016, 01:47 AM
Am I missing something? On the telecast they said the ball was tipped and upon review from Secaucus, NJ, they timed it and concluded that the player didn't get the shot off in time.
taking that moment away is what you're missing... thats a bs call to reverse and end a game on and if the balls tipped and the clock doesn't start and its up to Terrence Ross to think he has .2 less to release a shot than what the clock is showing. its just a junk move, fans there even knew it.
AirTupac
11-21-2016, 01:56 AM
Also, blazers fans in 2000 and Celtics fans in 2010.
Ya they all got their asses whooped :lol :lol :lol
Knicksfever2010
11-21-2016, 01:58 AM
taking that moment away is what you're missing... thats a bs call to reverse and end a game on and if the balls tipped and the clock doesn't start and its up to Terrence Ross to think he has .2 less to release a shot than what the clock is showing. its just a junk move, fans there even knew it.
so if the refs allowed the play, couldn't you say that the Kings got screwed because the refs didn't start the clock immediately after ball was tipped?
Either way, some team was getting screwed.
kamil
11-21-2016, 02:07 AM
Refs need to be either suspended, fined or FIRED. Why are they immune to any kind of penalties?
Fire Colangelo
11-21-2016, 02:20 AM
so if the refs allowed the play, couldn't you say that the Kings got screwed because the refs didn't start the clock immediately after ball was tipped?
Either way, some team was getting screwed.
Well the Kings need to get new ****ing scorekeepers.
This is some bull shit.
You can't overturn a ****ing ball because the scorekeeper ****ed up, wtf was Ross supposed to do? He got the ball, looked up and saw 2.4 seconds. If he saw that there was only 1.4 seconds, he would've made a different move and got the shot up a different way. Not saying it goes in or anything, but it gives us a ****ing chance.
This is ****ed, I expect the Kings scorekeeper to be fired, and I expect that ****ing ref to be fined first thing in the ****ing morning tomorrow.
Young X
11-21-2016, 02:24 AM
You can't overturn a ****ing ball because the scorekeeper ****ed up, wtf was Ross supposed to do? He got the ball, looked up and saw 2.4 seconds. If he saw that there was only 1.4 seconds, he would've made a different move and got the shot up a different way. Not saying it goes in or anything, but it gives us a ****ing chance.Exactly.
They should've made them play out that last possession again if anything. Not just completely take the possession away. Idiots.
Fire Colangelo
11-21-2016, 02:24 AM
Anyways, as much as this tilts me this game should've been won way earlier. If we want to avoid these situations we need to be focused in the 2nd half and not commit so many turnovers.
Tomorrow's game is important, we can't let this shit get to us. If we're serious about being a top 5 team this year, we need to come out strong tomorrow.
Fire Colangelo
11-21-2016, 02:27 AM
Exactly.
They should've made them play out that last possession again if anything. Not just completely take the possession away. Idiots.
It's just one game, and probably won't matter much in the grand scheme of things. But MAN does that just piss me off.
n00bie
11-21-2016, 02:30 AM
It's just one game, and probably won't matter much in the grand scheme of things. But MAN does that just piss me off.
Yes it was just one game, but think about the consequences this is going to have on the game if the league allows it. Who's to say the score keepers in the home arena won't pull the same stunt on important games / last possessions going forward?
Young X
11-21-2016, 02:32 AM
It's just one game, and probably won't matter much in the grand scheme of things. But MAN does that just piss me off.Yes it does matter in the grand scheme of things.
All these games matter. Raptors were 1 game away from the #1 seed last year, could've had homecourt over Cleveland. I remember they rested Lowry for no reason in one of the games I think against the Pistons and they lost. That game mattered.
Now instead of possibly going into LA feeling good about a hard fought win, they have to go there with the possibility of going 8-6.
Fire Colangelo
11-21-2016, 02:39 AM
Yes it was just one game, but think about the consequences this is going to have on the game if the league allows it. Who's to say the score keepers in the home arena won't pull the same stunt on important games / last possessions going forward?
Yes it does matter in the grand scheme of things.
All these games matter. Raptors were 1 game away from the #1 seed last year, could've had homecourt over Cleveland. I remember they rested Lowry for no reason in one of the games I think against the Pistons and they lost. That game mattered.
Now instead of possibly going into LA feeling good about a hard fought win, they have to go there with the possibility of going 8-6.
Man, here I am trying to make myself feel a less bitter about the loss.
It's pretty ****ed up, Kenny raises a good point. If there was 10 seconds left, and they started the clock late, would the basket have been waived off if it was made at the buzzer? :facepalm
sportjames23
11-21-2016, 02:46 AM
Anyone got video of this?
L.Kizzle
11-21-2016, 02:52 AM
so if the refs allowed the play, couldn't you say that the Kings got screwed because the refs didn't start the clock immediately after ball was tipped?
Either way, some team was getting screwed.
You restart the possession again, not end the game.
yeaaaman
11-21-2016, 03:04 AM
You restart the possession again, not end the game.
Yea, although it would be shitty to have your made basket waved off at least start the play over with the correct time to give the team a chance. How you end a game like that is beyond me.
NugzFan
11-21-2016, 03:08 AM
Don't feel sorry for Toronto.
We've been screwed before and nothing happens. Why should this be any different?
yeaaaman
11-21-2016, 03:13 AM
Don't feel sorry for Toronto.
We've been screwed before and nothing happens. Why should this be any different?
I think you should care about the league not "screwing" any teams period, if you like basketball games determined by the players on the court.
Spurs m8
11-21-2016, 03:23 AM
This is a disgrace
Clutch
11-21-2016, 03:26 AM
This is probably the worst call that I have ever seen in my life. Just plain stupid.
NugzFan
11-21-2016, 03:39 AM
I think you should care about the league not "screwing" any teams period, if you like basketball games determined by the players on the court.
Oh trust me I would love that. But we know the NBA won't do anything.
The raptors have had calls go their way before. So this game just evens it out.
yeaaaman
11-21-2016, 03:43 AM
Oh trust me I would love that. But we know the NBA won't do anything.
The raptors have had calls go their way before. So this game just evens it out.
Fair enough, although I'm pretty sure the raptors have been on the receiving end of plenty official nba apologies
ArbitraryWater
11-21-2016, 08:04 AM
Dumbest call ever, they should at least reset the clock and do the play over, stupid but better than the mess they now created.
They did this once or twice before, I remember... a couple of years ago, and when that happened they remembered that back in '08 or so they played out the final few minutes of a Heat game.
SpaceJam
11-21-2016, 08:27 AM
https://i.groupme.com/400x212.gif.028eff8d79ef4807932b4f4f067e60f4
ArbitraryWater
11-21-2016, 08:28 AM
Don't feel sorry for Toronto.
We've been screwed before and nothing happens. Why should this be any different?
this is actual screwing
Unlike a 50/50 foul call (or even straight up wrong call), this is a literal basket made to tie the game taken off the board.
jrjim
11-21-2016, 08:37 AM
It's one thing if it's a real time call. I get that, refs are human, mistakes happen. This is just some retarded reasoning. Players play the clock; how tf is Ross supposed to know the clock was started late? How do you penalize him for SAC's timekeepers error?
BigKAT
11-21-2016, 08:52 AM
:wtf:
It's one thing if it's a real time call. I get that, refs are human, mistakes happen. This is just some retarded reasoning. Players play the clock; how tf is Ross supposed to know the clock was started late? How do you penalize him for SAC's timekeepers error?
The clock didn't start .4 seconds late...
And TR got the shot off with AT LEAST .4 seconds, if not .5.
This was flat out the wrong call.
hold this L
11-21-2016, 09:32 AM
https://i.groupme.com/400x212.gif.028eff8d79ef4807932b4f4f067e60f4
hahahaha this topic wouldn't be right without the Drogba gif
:yaohappy:
Velocirap31
11-21-2016, 09:49 AM
Fair enough, although I'm pretty sure the raptors have been on the receiving end of plenty official nba apologies
Many. Makes you wonder if there is some discrimination going on.
Ben Simons
11-21-2016, 09:53 AM
Sounds crazy. Video?
Ben Simons
11-21-2016, 10:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVkL0nCErKs
Never mind, found one. Wow. That is bad.
Side note, don't defenders have to be 3 feet back? Isn't that one of the purposes of that line on the court? To indicate how far away the defender needs to be? Why is it a rule at all if it is violated every game and never called?
Sounds crazy. Video?
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/raptors-irate-after-terrence-ross-potential-tying-3-pointer-overturned/
Not to mention if Cousins touched the ball before it left the inbounders hands, it's a technical.
Ben Simons
11-21-2016, 10:11 AM
They need to file an official protest and replay this. It has happened before, but they are rare.
Grey Dawn
11-21-2016, 10:23 AM
Wow
Grey Dawn
11-21-2016, 11:24 AM
This one might have legit chance of appeal going through.
Waiting for lame 2 minute NBA report
There's just no way of explaining the call they went with.
yeaaaman
11-21-2016, 12:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVkL0nCErKs
Never mind, found one. Wow. That is bad.
Side note, don't defenders have to be 3 feet back? Isn't that one of the purposes of that line on the court? To indicate how far away the defender needs to be? Why is it a rule at all if it is violated every game and never called?
The application of rules is and always has been so inconsistent. Now anytime a home team is in this situation just start the clock late because no matter what happens if he hits the shot they will just erase it because time would have already expired according to the NBA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYFX61XPesE&t=334s
Matt Weiner also makes a good point at what is the acceptable amount of "lateness" allowed for when a ball is inbounded before the clock starts since it is controlled by humans so will always technically be late anyways. The NBA has so much to explain not just for this but moving forward. They actually made it harder on themselves.
antonAC
11-21-2016, 01:09 PM
one team was always going to get hard done by once they missed the call but it really should have been the kings. the refs can't just go back and re-invent the outcome because they made a mistake.
if there had been 10 seconds left and a team got called for an offensive foul wrongly, everyone stops and the offending team just goes ah well, throws it in the basket, do the refs review the footage and say, well it shouldn't have been a foul so they get the two points?
refs make calls on the fly, they can go back and check things when the ball is out of play but they can't retroactively nullify things that have already happened. they missed the tip, tough luck, the kings would rightfully be fuming but once the tip is missed then it's like it didn't happen.
NugzFan
11-21-2016, 01:17 PM
Many. Makes you wonder if there is some discrimination going on.
No, there isn't
NugzFan
11-21-2016, 01:33 PM
this is actual screwing
Unlike a 50/50 foul call (or even straight up wrong call), this is a literal basket made to tie the game taken off the board.
I'm not saying they didn't get screwed.
I just don't feel sorry for them
The nuggets got screwed out of a win earlier this year and no one cares (nor should they). So when it happens to other teams, too bad.
sundog67
11-21-2016, 01:46 PM
IMO the onus should be on the ref on the inbound play. It looks like the timekeepers start the clock as soon as the ref drops his hand and points. You can see the ref counting the 5-seconds, at "4-and" you see the ref drop his hand and point to indicate the clock start. The time starts ticking at that exact moment.
It's clearly just after Cousins tips the ball (arguably a violation in itself) and before Ross gains possession.
Quite a bumble in the call IMO. I somewhat understand the rationale but I think it's obvious Raptors got screwed on the call. Kings seemed eager to get off the floor in order to close the book on the game.
Ben Simons
11-21-2016, 02:21 PM
I'm not saying they didn't get screwed.
I just don't feel sorry for them
The nuggets got screwed out of a win earlier this year and no one cares (nor should they). So when it happens to other teams, too bad.
That wasn't as bad. A missed call is not nearly as bad as them retroactively changing the time left and saying the shot was late when the player shooting is intentionally trying to take the last shot and timed it perfectly to his knowledge.
beastee
11-21-2016, 02:33 PM
The clock clearly started running over the basket as soon as Boogie touched it, and Ross still released it at .05 seconds left. I am not sure how this got overturned - possibly one of the worst calls I have ever seen. NBA needs a good answer, but if this loss effects playoff seeding it's implications are gigantic.
Legends66NBA7
11-21-2016, 02:40 PM
People still baiting when they have nothing do with the topic is so god damn sad.
Was going to talk about this but whatever.
Over and out.
Sakkreth
11-21-2016, 02:46 PM
The clock even started EARLIER than Ross touched it. Hilarious.
Fire Colangelo
11-21-2016, 02:47 PM
I'm not saying they didn't get screwed.
I just don't feel sorry for them
The nuggets got screwed out of a win earlier this year and no one cares (nor should they). So when it happens to other teams, too bad.
Are you serious? This is a terrible post.
This isn't one of those 50/50 balls that could be argued either way. The Nuggets didn't get screwed out of a win, they were on the receiving end of a 50/50 call that happens to team ALL the time. I have no problems with refs making those 50/50 calls because they're human, and they're not perfect. The only problem that I (and everyone else) have is the fact that they made this decision against all common sense AFTER reviewing it.
What's stopping another team from doing the same thing in a close game tonight? Will the refs call it the same way? Unless the league issue some kind of statement today, this is a potential issue going forward that's far serious than a win/loss game for the Raptors. What if this happened in a playoffs game?
If you can't see the difference between missing a 50/50 call and this..... wow. Your post is pretty much the same as saying "oh hey why would I feel sorry about someone getting cancer when nobody cared about me breaking my nail two days ago?".
Again, terrible terrible post from you.
Bankaii
11-21-2016, 02:55 PM
Don't know what to say. I can how it could go either way. You can't ignore that the ball was touched, regardless of the clock person screwing up. But you also can't screw the Raptors over for a home team staff error.
They should've just reset the clock and completely done a redo. People still would've complained either way though.
Fire Colangelo
11-21-2016, 03:04 PM
Don't know what to say. I can how it could go either way. You can't ignore that the ball was touched, regardless of the clock person screwing up. But you also can't screw the Raptors over for a home team staff error.
They should've just reset the clock and completely done a redo. People still would've complained either way though.
That's the thing, would have no issues if it was Raptors home court and our technical staff made a mistake. But it was the Kings home court... so basically we got penalized for the other team'a mistake.
NugzFan
11-21-2016, 03:06 PM
That wasn't as bad. A missed call is not nearly as bad as them retroactively changing the time left and saying the shot was late when the player shooting is intentionally trying to take the last shot and timed it perfectly to his knowledge.
The refs cost us a game
Hence the raptors get no pity from me
When the nuggets are given a game back because of the refs maybe then I'll care
NugzFan
11-21-2016, 03:18 PM
Are you serious? This is a terrible post.
This isn't one of those 50/50 balls that could be argued either way. The Nuggets didn't get screwed out of a win, they were on the receiving end of a 50/50 call that happens to team ALL the time. I have no problems with refs making those 50/50 calls because they're human, and they're not perfect. The only problem that I (and everyone else) have is the fact that they made this decision against all common sense AFTER reviewing it.
What's stopping another team from doing the same thing in a close game tonight? Will the refs call it the same way? Unless the league issue some kind of statement today, this is a potential issue going forward that's far serious than a win/loss game for the Raptors. What if this happened in a playoffs game?
If you can't see the difference between missing a 50/50 call and this..... wow. Your post is pretty much the same as saying "oh hey why would I feel sorry about someone getting cancer when nobody cared about me breaking my nail two days ago?".
Again, terrible terrible post from you.
Smh at that analogy. Comparing a raptors loss to cancer?
My point still stands. We got screwed out of a win - so did Toronto. 0% of raptor fans were upset at our loss (again understandable) and hence I don't care they got screwed either. Too bad. Move on.
Ben Simons
11-21-2016, 05:28 PM
The refs cost us a game
Hence the raptors get no pity from me
When the nuggets are given a game back because of the refs maybe then I'll care
You sure like to cry about that game given you don't think people should cry about this one.
Fire Colangelo
11-21-2016, 05:36 PM
Smh at that analogy. Comparing a raptors loss to cancer?
My point still stands. We got screwed out of a win - so did Toronto. 0% of raptor fans were upset at our loss (again understandable) and hence I don't care they got screwed either. Too bad. Move on.
You're so dense it's unbelievable. It's an analogy, I could've compared it to something else but my point still stands. Fact is what happened to the Raptors is much more controversial compared to what happened to the Nuggets (which happens literally every other night). You'll never see me complain about reffing even when the Raptors are on the short end of the stick because at least the refs are decently consistent with their reffing. Sometimes you just don't get calls and that happens to EVERY single team in the league.
But tell me, how are they going to be consistent with this type of call? Not saying the Kings timekeepers did this intentionally, but what's stopping another team from intentionally doing the exact same thing? How are the refs going to treat it then? Game 7 of the NBA finals, Cavs down 2 with 3 seconds left, GSW purposely starts the clock late and Kyrie knocks down a 3. Do they count it or not?
Oh, btw this is all WITHOUT mentioning that the Kings scorekeeper ****ed up on the possession before when he improperly reset the shot clock after a Cousins rebound of a Kyle Lowry missed free throw. In theory the Raptors should've had 3.3 seconds to shoot instead of the 2.4 seconds they were given.
But it's really not about the Raptors losing 1 regular season game out of 82, I'm more concerned on what kind of controls the NBA will implement so these kinds of things won't happen again, especially on a bigger stage.
Assuming good intent, I don't think the Kings scorekeeper should get fired yet. We're all human and we all make mistakes, but the league AT LEAST has to investigate what happened last night and implement controls that stop teams from taking advantage of this.
**** it man, your homerism is definitely getting the better of you on this topic. Nobody cares about the Nuggets because you guys lost on a call that happens every single night. People care about this incident because it's NOT something that happens every single night. It could've easily been prevented and literally every other alternative was better than the decision made yesterday.
The clock even started EARLIER than Ross touched it. Hilarious.
Its not about when Ross touched it...
Its about when Cousins touched it.
NugzFan
11-21-2016, 05:48 PM
You sure like to cry about that game given you don't think people should cry about this one.
I actually never once brought it up before last night. Not a single complaint about the refs or that bad call. It's only now I use it to prove my point.
NugzFan
11-21-2016, 05:52 PM
You're so dense it's unbelievable. It's an analogy, I could've compared it to something else but my point still stands. Fact is what happened to the Raptors is much more controversial compared to what happened to the Nuggets (which happens literally every other night). You'll never see me complain about reffing even when the Raptors are on the short end of the stick because at least the refs are decently consistent with their reffing. Sometimes you just don't get calls and that happens to EVERY single team in the league.
But tell me, how are they going to be consistent with this type of call? Not saying the Kings timekeepers did this intentionally, but what's stopping another team from intentionally doing the exact same thing? How are the refs going to treat it then? Game 7 of the NBA finals, Cavs down 2 with 3 seconds left, GSW purposely starts the clock late and Kyrie knocks down a 3. Do they count it or not?
Oh, btw this is all WITHOUT mentioning that the Kings scorekeeper ****ed up on the possession before when he improperly reset the shot clock after a Cousins rebound of a Kyle Lowry missed free throw. In theory the Raptors should've had 3.3 seconds to shoot instead of the 2.4 seconds they were given.
But it's really not about the Raptors losing 1 regular season game out of 82, I'm more concerned on what kind of controls the NBA will implement so these kinds of things won't happen again, especially on a bigger stage.
Assuming good intent, I don't think the Kings scorekeeper should get fired yet. We're all human and we all make mistakes, but the league AT LEAST has to investigate what happened last night and implement controls that stop teams from taking advantage of this.
**** it man, your homerism is definitely getting the better of you on this topic. Nobody cares about the Nuggets because you guys lost on a call that happens every single night. People care about this incident because it's NOT something that happens every single night. It could've easily been prevented and literally every other alternative was better than the decision made yesterday.
Holy shit tissue sales in Canada just doubled over night.
I'm not being a homer. Take away the nuggets game (which again I never complained about before this thread - just the first example I could remember) and my point remains the same. Exactly the same. Every team gets screwed. Get over it. Stop crying. Toronto gets no pity from me. Raptor fans are some of the most insecure fans I've ever seen. Go visit realgm if you don't believe me.
I'd love if the NBA would actually do something and replay all the games that were called wrong but they won't. They fake apologize and we forget the game a week later.
Fire Colangelo
11-21-2016, 07:49 PM
Holy shit tissue sales in Canada just doubled over night.
I'm not being a homer. Take away the nuggets game (which again I never complained about before this thread - just the first example I could remember) and my point remains the same. Exactly the same. Every team gets screwed. Get over it. Stop crying. Toronto gets no pity from me. Raptor fans are some of the most insecure fans I've ever seen. Go visit realgm if you don't believe me.
I'd love if the NBA would actually do something and replay all the games that were called wrong but they won't. They fake apologize and we forget the game a week later.
Lol.
Your whole point consists of
miggyme1
11-21-2016, 07:57 PM
[QUOTE=Fire Colangelo]Lol.
Your whole point consists of
Fire Colangelo
11-21-2016, 09:32 PM
refs made the right call...clock should have started as soon as cousins touched the ball....so if anything the kings could have potentially been the ones to get screwed had it went to OT and they lost.....don't know why people aren't realizing that
And you do realize that Ross would've took a different shot had he looked up and saw that there was 1.4 seconds instead of 2.4?
Yes, it's ultimately the right basketball call, but given the circumstances of the clock starting late, you can't punish the player/team for a mistake that the opposing team's timekeeper made.
Had there been 10 seconds on the clock instead, and Ross winded the shot clock down and hit the buzzerbeater, would the shot have been waived off?
What stops other teams from abusing this intentionally in the playoffs then?
miggyme1
11-21-2016, 09:36 PM
And you do realize that Ross would've took a different shot had he looked up and saw that there was 1.4 seconds instead of 2.4?
Yes, it's ultimately the right basketball call, but given the circumstances of the clock starting late, you can't punish the player/team for a mistake that the opposing team's timekeeper made.
Had there been 10 seconds on the clock instead, and Ross winded the shot clock down and hit the buzzerbeater, would the shot have been waived off?
What stops other teams from abusing this intentionally in the playoffs then?
a diff shot??? u mean a highly contested shot...considering he faked out a man to get the clear shot he did in fact take......end of discussion....the right call was made.
Fire Colangelo
11-21-2016, 09:43 PM
a diff shot??? u mean a highly contested shot...considering he faked out a man to get the clear shot he did in fact take......end of discussion....the right call was made.
A highly contested shot doesn't mean there's a 0% chance it goes in.
If shots like these go in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoX3CpHJNsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-u4pIQyjfE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3EqY5gPrcU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0xJM1Z7kos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgSgwSHehfE
Then surely Terrance's shot has a chance of going in?
You can't just take away that chance, no matter how small. At the very least you replay those last 2.4 seconds.
PistonsFan#21
11-21-2016, 09:50 PM
A highly contested shot doesn't mean there's a 0% chance it goes in.
If shots like these go in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoX3CpHJNsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-u4pIQyjfE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3EqY5gPrcU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0xJM1Z7kos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgSgwSHehfE
Then surely Terrance's shot has a chance of going in?
You can't just take away that chance, no matter how small. At the very least you replay those last 2.4 seconds.
i thought you for sure would have this play posted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5bqF4VDSx4
one of the most improbable buzzer beaters i witnessed live
miggyme1
11-21-2016, 10:01 PM
A highly contested shot doesn't mean there's a 0% chance it goes in.
If shots like these go in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoX3CpHJNsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-u4pIQyjfE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3EqY5gPrcU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0xJM1Z7kos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgSgwSHehfE
Then surely Terrance's shot has a chance of going in?
You can't just take away that chance, no matter how small. At the very least you replay those last 2.4 seconds.
yea I mean they should have put 1.4 back on the clock or whateva and let the raptors have another shot but then what.......they hit the shot and win in OT then its damn the kings got screwed still......its a sticky situation but a very rare one. I'm more concerned about how jimmy butler got screwed against the clippers a few days ago..a phantom foul call at the end of the game.
Fire Colangelo
11-21-2016, 10:22 PM
yea I mean they should have put 1.4 back on the clock or whateva and let the raptors have another shot but then what.......they hit the shot and win in OT then its damn the kings got screwed still......its a sticky situation but a very rare one. I'm more concerned about how jimmy butler got screwed against the clippers a few days ago..a phantom foul call at the end of the game.
Well, it would've been the Kings timekeeper that screwed the Kings over.
tpols
11-22-2016, 01:23 AM
so now i hear that the league wont apologize or even admit that they fked this up smh..
I hate authority figures that cant admit when theyre wrong.
Fk Adam Silver and whoever is calling the shots for refs.. absolutely unbelievable.
Adam Silver
11-22-2016, 12:32 PM
so now i hear that the league wont apologize or even admit that they fked this up smh..
I hate authority figures that cant admit when theyre wrong.
Fk Adam Silver and whoever is calling the shots for refs.. absolutely unbelievable.
Trust me, I know what I'm doing. This is all about setting a precedent.
Ben Simons
11-22-2016, 12:38 PM
Holy shit tissue sales in Canada just doubled over night.
I'm not being a homer. Take away the nuggets game (which again I never complained about before this thread - just the first example I could remember) and my point remains the same. Exactly the same. Every team gets screwed. Get over it. Stop crying. Toronto gets no pity from me. Raptor fans are some of the most insecure fans I've ever seen. Go visit realgm if you don't believe me.
I'd love if the NBA would actually do something and replay all the games that were called wrong but they won't. They fake apologize and we forget the game a week later.
You are over generalizing the idea of every team gets screwed. If the refs absolutely refuse to call a single foul on a team for the course of an entire game, would you excuse it as "Well it is just 1 game, everybody gets screwed at some point. My team got screwed once, so we're even"? No, the situations are different and getting screwed in 1 situation can be more egregious than getting screwed in another. The Raptors got screwed in a more egregious way, which is why this is a bigger deal than how the Nuggets lost. I'm not a fan of either team, but I can acknowledge that this situation is worse.
Ben Simons
11-22-2016, 12:42 PM
refs made the right call...clock should have started as soon as cousins touched the ball....so if anything the kings could have potentially been the ones to get screwed had it went to OT and they lost.....don't know why people aren't realizing that
Ross would have shot sooner if the clock was started correctly. Having the clock delayed makes it so Ross can't accurately decide when to shoot.
Ben Simons
11-22-2016, 12:43 PM
a diff shot??? u mean a highly contested shot...considering he faked out a man to get the clear shot he did in fact take......end of discussion....the right call was made.
This was not the right call. This took away any chance the Raptors had because teams intentionally wait until the clock is about to end to shoot. This goes from Raptors have a chance to having no chance to tie the game. How does this make it the right call?
They really need to replay this.
BigNBAfan
11-22-2016, 12:57 PM
Well, it would've been the Kings timekeeper that screwed the Kings over.
Hey butt****, timekeepers are NBA employees, not kings employees. Just like refs...
ArbitraryWater
11-22-2016, 01:10 PM
yea I mean they should have put 1.4 back on the clock or whateva and let the raptors have another shot but then what.......they hit the shot and win in OT then its damn the kings got screwed still......its a sticky situation but a very rare one. I'm more concerned about how jimmy butler got screwed against the clippers a few days ago..a phantom foul call at the end of the game.
You're more concerned about a situation in which the team was down 2 in? :oldlol:
Foh troll
Phenith
11-22-2016, 02:22 PM
One of the worst calls I've ever seen. If you watch the play and time it, he gets the ball off at .4 and the clock started before he touched the ball. I think that with how close it had to have been even with the NBA "timing" it, there is no way you should overturn what happened on the floor. As pointed out by many others, players aren't playing by an imaginary clock of when the clock "should have" started, they are going by the clock they can see in front of them.
It has a pretty solid case for "something fishy going on here".
Yeah that was ****ing bullshit. This reminds of the recent season where they had to issue public apologies three times in as many months. I haven't seen this type of thing happen so often to any other team.
Get it together NBA please and thank you.
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