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The_Pharcyde
11-23-2016, 02:56 AM
The NBA disallowed handchecking at the end of the 2003-04 season, with the intent to open up the floor for perimeter players and increase offensive output

in 2005-06 you saw this becoming a major factor in the increased success in perimeter positioned players.

you see this come into play in 3 main examples

1. LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Allen Iverson, Paul Pierce, Gilbert Arenas, Ray Allen all experienced Career High PPG seasons and many others including Vince Carter, Michael Redd and Tracy Mcgrady all saw bumps in their output
"The last time at least three players averaged at least 30 points per game was during the 1981-82 season. In fact, it had only happened six times before in the 59-year history of the NBA."(NBA.com)

2. Kobe dropped 81 this year and 62 in 3 quarters this year..... the highest scoring game we had seen since Wilt (imagine what MJ would have done this year lol jk jk)

3. The 2006 NBA finals culminated this all when Dwyane Wade was shooting a record amount of Free throws, and averaged 40 through the whole series.

Surely these are great players still getting buckets, but when put into context it is hard not to look at the league wide scoring bump for perimeter players and put that into account.

Luckily I think the NBA weathered the storm a bit but you still see how the league has completely progressed toward perimeter play as the standard for the great teams and have started to work the game from the outside in, rather than vice versa

What are your thoughts?

warriorfan
11-23-2016, 02:59 AM
My thoughts are that all of Kobe's seasons prior to 2005-2006 should be statistically inflated

34-24 Footwork
11-23-2016, 03:03 AM
Lol. How do you explain Kobe's 2006-2007 numbers then? What about Kobe's 62 points in 3 quarters?

You should probably take Kobe out of that equation. We saw what he was doing in 2013 up until the ruptured achilles.

Kobe deserves his own category when it comes to scoring...

Imagine what he'd be doing if he was playing in this era, healthy.

The_Pharcyde
11-23-2016, 03:07 AM
Lol. How do you explain Kobe's 2006-2007 numbers then? What about Kobe's 62 points in 3 quarters?

You should probably take Kobe out of that equation. We saw what he was doing in 2013 up until the ruptured achilles.

Kobe deserves his own category when it comes to scoring...

Imagine what he'd be doing if he was playing in this era, healthy.

all the guys i listed were great players and continued to put up fantastic numbers, but there is no denying they all hit their career high numbers in that season with varying years in the league between them all... kobe in his 9th, lebron in his 3rd, paul pierce in his 7th etc.

Young X
11-23-2016, 03:21 AM
This is what I always try to explain to people who think Wade's 2006 finals was fixed.

No, dummy, it's just the fouls on the perimeter were extra soft that year and Wade was the perfect player (most explosive slasher at the time) to take advantage.

The same people that shit on that performance will praise Kobe's 62 in 3 quarters when the same thing happened. Kobe took 25 FT's in 3 quarters against the same team.

Lebron23
11-23-2016, 03:23 AM
This is what I always try to explain to people who think Wade's 2006 finals was fixed.

No, dummy, it's just the fouls on the perimeter were extra soft that year and Wade was the perfect player (most explosive slasher at the time) to take advantage.

The same people that shit on that performance will praise Kobe's 62 in 3 quarters when the same thing happened. Kobe took 25 FT's in 3 quarters against the same team.


K-Whistle

warriorfan
11-23-2016, 04:03 AM
K-Whistle

L-Tinydick

34-24 Footwork
11-23-2016, 06:17 AM
This is what I always try to explain to people who think Wade's 2006 finals was fixed.

No, dummy, it's just the fouls on the perimeter were extra soft that year and Wade was the perfect player (most explosive slasher at the time) to take advantage.

The same people that shit on that performance will praise Kobe's 62 in 3 quarters when the same thing happened. Kobe took 25 FT's in 3 quarters against the same team.

You don't think that has anything to do with Kobe being the clear cut number one option for the first year while healthy??

Not sure how you throw Kobe in the mix when his situation has been totally different. Kobe is a better scorer than everyone listed in the original post.

ArbitraryWater
11-23-2016, 06:30 AM
I made an amazing in depth thread on this... Only Kobetards and guys who didn't want to believe their favorite league may have gone through an inflation period in production tried to deny it with nonsensical stuff (as done by 24 footwork here).

Gileraracer
11-23-2016, 07:25 AM
K-Whistle

First time ever I agree with you.
18 free throws per game for a finals series? A shame. Dallas was ROBBED

SouBeachTalents
11-23-2016, 08:42 AM
First time ever I agree with you.
18 free throws per game for a finals series? A shame. Dallas was ROBBED

K-whistle as in Kobe you fuccing retard :oldlol:

NBAGOAT
11-23-2016, 09:51 AM
K-whistle as in Kobe you fuccing retard :oldlol:

:lol

hold this L
11-23-2016, 10:01 AM
3. The 2006 NBA finals culminated this all when Dwyane Wade was shooting a record amount of Free throws, and averaged 40 through the whole series.
He averaged 34PPG

ArbitraryWater
11-23-2016, 10:07 AM
K-whistle as in Kobe you fuccing retard :oldlol:

:roll:


He averaged 34PPG

35 actually

feyki
11-23-2016, 10:23 AM
He averaged 34PPG

39.3 in the last four games . 40.3 in the close three games of last four while averaging 21.3 FTA .

hold this L
11-23-2016, 10:31 AM
:roll:



35 actually
34.7PPG actually :pimp:

Ben Simons
11-23-2016, 11:40 AM
34.7PPG actually :pimp:
34 and 2/3 PPG actually :pimp:

aj1987
11-23-2016, 03:54 PM
First time ever I agree with you.
18 free throws per game for a finals series? A shame. Dallas was ROBBED
Your mom shouldn't have smoked crack while she was pregnant with you.

ArbitraryWater
11-23-2016, 03:57 PM
Your mom shouldn't have smoked cracked while she was pregnant with you.

you on crack right now bro?

aj1987
11-23-2016, 04:02 PM
you on crack right now bro?
You obviously are, since you still seem to believe that Dirk is better than Wade offensively.

ArbitraryWater
11-23-2016, 04:18 PM
You obviously are, since you still seem to believe that Dirk is better than Wade offensively.

you trying too hard bro

Smoke117
11-23-2016, 04:23 PM
You don't think that has anything to do with Kobe being the clear cut number one option for the first year while healthy??

Not sure how you throw Kobe in the mix when his situation has been totally different. Kobe is a better scorer than everyone listed in the original post.

lol Kobe is clearly not as good as Wade at getting to the rim, so it's even more erroneous with him. Here's the perfect example of what you were talking about, Youngx. A Kobe stan who was surely talking shit on Wade in 06, but thinks it's perfectly fine if it's Kobe.

3ball
11-23-2016, 07:28 PM
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yeah, it's a lot harder to do behind-the-back crossovers and other breakdown moves with a guy hand-checking, forearming, and IMPEDING your progress


https://media.giphy.com/media/l3vR5xlwhZpImmT0Q/source.gif


The new rules state that "IMPEDING" forward movement is banned - that's the word the nba used to describe what hand-checking does
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