The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?

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http://fansided.com/2017/06/22/nba-draft-2017-jazz-tony-bradley-number-28/

[QUOTE]Bradley doesn

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http://fansided.com/2017/06/22/nba-draft-2017-jazz-donovan-mitchell-number-13/

[QUOTE]He

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/06/22/nba-draft-2017-utah-jazz-trade-trey-lyles-nuggets-donovan-mitchell/

[QUOTE]Utah

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/06/22/utah-jazz-trade-acquire-uncs-tony-bradley-no-28/

[QUOTE] It

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/06/23/utah-jazz-late-second-rounder-comes-stockton-approved/


it will be a challenge in and of itself just for him to make the final team roster

doubt it. I imagine he will get a two way contract. Wallace the other

[QUOTE]If that

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http://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/246423/The-Maximum-Available-2017-Cap-Space-For-All-30-NBA-Teams-Version-60

Did have between 25-30 million in cap space. A little more now with the Lyles trade I guess?

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Tony Jones: Former Jazz/SLC Stars forward Quincy Ford will play Summer League for the Atlanta Hawks, league sources tell The Salt Lake Tribune

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https://www.vanquishthefoe.com/2017/6/23/15857874/nba-draft-eric-mika-free-agency-miami-heat-summer-league-byu

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6

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http://gleague.nba.com/player/eric-griffin/

Big numbers including blocks and he should be in his prime at 27

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[QUOTE]Shams Charania: The Sacramento Kings are releasing guard Arron Afflalo, league sources say. Afflalo had contract guarantee trigger today.

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Spencer Checketts: Dennis Lindsey points out because Donovan Mitchell was a baseball star he didn

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=44753563&nid=304&title=how-donovan-mitchell-found-his-way-to-the-utah-jazz

shooting wrist?

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5436892-155/still-searching-for-point-man

So they're looking to replace Hill or get another vet?


Exum, and fellow teammate Rodney Hood, is spending the summer in Utah to train, perhaps looking for a similar spike Gordon Hayward got out of spending his summer in-state last year.

"You'll see a tremendous player," Lindsey said "We have very high expectations for him."

The Jazz were encouraged two years ago when Exum trained for a second year in the league, but his progress was disrupted by a torn ACL.

Lindsey said he and coach Quin Snyder challenged Exum and "gave him some truth." Exum decided to stay in town, and according to Lindsey, that's helped him make strides.

"Dante is doing extremely good work," Lindsey said. "[Strength coach] Jeff Watkinson came over today and singled out Dante and Rodney as doing really good work, so we're excited."

encouraging. They better get to work because they just got some competition

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5436656-155/utah-jazz-no-13-pick-donovan?page=2


Mitchell's selection seems to raise questions for the future of Dante Exum, Utah's 2014 lottery pick, especially if the Jazz are able to re-sign George Hill or pick up another veteran point guard as they desire. But Lindsey said he sees Exum and Mitchell playing together, bringing length, speed and athletic ability to Utah's backcourt. They'll explore that during Utah Summer League in July.

Exum's not playing Summer League. Got to get Mitchell, Goss and Wallace minutes. Hopefully they'll mostly play together. No reason they can't all play together with Exum, Neto, Hood and Burks. They want multi skilled guys with length. This guy sounds like he's the perfect fit for the team. I'd look for him to start the year with the Stars and be ready to help the Jazz later in the season if needed.


"It's been my experience the guys with tools, guys who love the game, guys with character and intelligence ... those are always the guys who get better," he said. "We'll find out to what degree."

sounds like maybe Exum and Hood are getting the message too

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http://saltcityhoops.com/staff-scrimmage-draft-reactions-whats-next/

[QUOTE]Dumping a player as young as Lyles, who at one time showed a lot of promise is certainly not without risk, however. It could be that GM Dennis Lindsey and company simply felt jumping up 11 spots was worth pulling the plug on the Lyles experiment, but I also wonder if perhaps Jazz head honchos weren

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Starting PGs under contract for next yr (tradable):
Schro
Lin
IT
Kemba
Kyrie
Reg
Bev
Conley
Dragic
Brogdon
Rubio
Russ
Bled
Dame
TP
Wall

Lin might be had with Russell getting traded there. I think he might fit offensively anyway

Bledsoe maybe? Thats shows how valuable Hill is. Pay him!

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/6/24/15851582/2017-nba-draft-utah-jazz-denver-nuggets-trade-gordon-hayward-trey-lyles-donovan-mitchell-tyler-lydon

[QUOTE]While Danilo Gallinari is a free agent and could end up in any of a dozen different places Kenneth Faried, Juancho Hernangomez, and Darrell Arthur are all still on the books for the Nuggets. Lyles could quickly find himself buried in Denver

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https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-podcast-utah-jazz-video/2017/6/23/15865854/dennis-lindsey-gm-nba-2017-nba-draft-free-agency-gordon-hayward-donovan-mitchell-trade-front-office


Getting Donovan Mitchell without giving up any veteran players was a masterful move and a major reason Dennis Lindsey is the best GM in the NBA and deserving of Executive of the Year.

I'm hopeful that Johnson is dealt and maybe Diaw

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https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-free-agency/2017/6/23/15864752/nba-rumor-2017-free-agency-boston-celtics-gordon-hayward-paul-george-trade-danny-ainge-jimmy-butler

Wouldn't surprise me. Depends on how much they have to give up for George. The Jazz might get something out of a sign and trade if it comes down to it

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/6/23/15860474/nba-draft-2017-summer-league-utah-jazz-salt-lake-city-stars-undrafted-players

[QUOTE]This kid has a freakish physical profile. At the 2015 combine, he measured a hair under 6

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/06/24/does-mitchell-make-the-utah-jazz-better/


Heading into next season, he can make an immediate contribution off the bench. Both as an offensive spark who can get hot and create shots for himself and others, and as a defensive specialist.

I say he starts with the Stars and learns the sets and can help them later in the year


However, even with all of his skills, he was not an effective player this last season. He struggled to get going with inconsistent playing time, and when he did get the chance to play, he settled for threes (48 percent of all his shots), and seemed timid.

timid Lyles was not! That was the heart of the problem

[QUOTE]If Hill stays, Mitchell can still have a role assuming Burks

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Spencer Checketts: I

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5439765-155/five-point-guards-other-than


Joseph isn't a starter, so he doesn't really move the needle. If you are going after Joseph, you're probably better off giving Dante Exum those minutes.

stop with the Dante crap already!

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5437757-155/kragthorpe-jazz-have-a-good-story


The Jazz may have succeeded in duplicating Carlos Boozer with Al Jefferson in 2010, but that's hardly going to happen with Hayward. And his influence would be lost.

I'm not a big Boozer fan but come on! It all fell apart after that

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5439731-155/monson-drafting-of-donovan-mitchell-a?page=2

I imagine ideally they'd like to se an Exum/Mitchell starting back court someday

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865683634/Utah-Jazz-impressed-with-Dante-Exums-progress.html


Exum, Lindsey noted, will even make an appearance during the upcoming Utah Jazz summer league, which runs July 3-6 at the Huntsman Center. That's news considering Exum had told reporters in May that he wasn't going to participate. Seeing him paired up with Mitchell in the backcourt would be a fun summer surprise for Jazz fans. (By the way, Lindsey said Exum is not likely to participate in the Las Vegas summer league.)

:applause:

[QUOTE]Whether it

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865683609/New-Utah-players-have-Jazz-DNA-meet-Character-Crucible-requirements.html

[QUOTE]

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865683631/George-Hill-is-a-key-Jazz-component-but-not-a-must-have-superstar.html

[QUOTE]Hayward is the easy part. The Jazz can pay him tens of millions more than anyone else, over the life of a maximum contract. The decision is out of the Jazz

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/06/24/2017-nba-draft-picks-put-utah-jazz-awkward-position/

[QUOTE]Let

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/06/24/utah-jazz-summer-league-roster-dante-exum-confirmed/

[QUOTE]Tyler Cavanaugh, George Washington: Cavanaugh went undrafted this week after a strong two-year run at G.W. However, the 6-foot-9, 240-pound sharpshooter raised some eyes at the Portsmouth Invitational. He was the tournament

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Andy Larsen: Interesting Serbian article saying Milos Teodosic is closest to signing with Utah.

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865683652/Are-the-Jazz-signing-Serbian-guard-Milos-Teodosic.html

[QUOTE]The Jazz haven

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http://fansided.com/2017/06/26/nba-free-agency-2017-5-offseason-targets-washington-wizards/3/


Mack has turned into one of the better backup point guards in the NBA.
:rolleyes:

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Spurs wanted him. He's good! :bowdown:

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https://www.midmajormadness.com/2017/6/23/15860344/2017-nba-draft-nigel-williams-goss-utah-jazz-gonzaga-how-he-fits-western-conference

I see him on a two way which will limit how much he can help the Jazz. Maybe by the end of the year if they are lucky

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865683739/No-awards-but-one-big-honor-for-Rudy-Gobert-on-his-25th-birthday.html

[QUOTE]Gobert didn

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865683681/Utah-Jazz-center-Rudy-Gobert-earns-NBA-All-Defensive-First-Team-honors.html

[QUOTE]By making the all-defensive first team, the cap hit for Gobert next season increases from $21.4 to $21.9, according to The Vertical

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/06/26/top-four-reasons-to-be-excited-about-utah-jazz-summer-league/4/

no mention of Wallace(again!) or Goss :confusedshrug:

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[QUOTE]Andre Iguodala has become the foremost target in an attempt weaken the Golden State Warriors

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[QUOTE]Gallinari spoke with Premium Sport about his future. Il Gallo opted out of his contract with the Nuggets to become free agent from July 1.

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[QUOTE]Two more free agents have become restricted as a result of receiving qualifying offers from their respective clubs. According to RealGM

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865683769/Analysis-Why-the-Jazz-should-consider-a-Deron-Williams-reunion.html


With a committed Rudy Gobert, a prospect with All-Star potential in Donovan Mitchell

let's not get ahead of ourselves

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https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-free-agency/2017/6/27/15880092/nba-free-agency-2017-milos-teodosic-utah-jazz-cska-moscow-rudy-gobert-raul-neto-ante-tomic


We also heard this from Raul Neto, but he did actually, eventually, come here.

Neto didn' choose Europe the Jazz did. He wanted to come over when he was drafted. Out playing Burke did him in. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE]So I believe that it

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/6/27/15879720/2017-nba-awards-recap-utah-jazz-rudy-gobert-draymond-green-golden-state-warriors-giannis-bucks
[QUOTE]
Draymond Green? Don

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http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246514/Jazz-Working-To-Upgrade-Roster-Before-Gordon-Haywards-Free-Agency

they need to. I'd target starting sg and back-up center though. Sign Hill and Hayward. Trade Johnson. Trade or dump Diaw and look to bring him back cheap

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[QUOTE]Adrian Wojnarowski: Sources: Boston

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/06/27/utah-jazz-joe-ingles-qualifying-offer-stars-hire-martin-schiller/

Hopefully they'll be a lot more competitive. Their picks, Wallace and Bolomboy with a new coach.

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Chris Vivlamore: I was told to expect six, maybe eight, teams to pursue Paul Millsap in free agency.

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[QUOTE]Jeff Goodman: Clippers like the upside of Sam Dekker, the toughness of Patrick Beverly and the short-term contracts of both Beverly and Lou Williams. Source said Clippers will go after a big wing in free agency, and try and retain Blake Griffin.

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Maybe can get Beverley from Clipps now?

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Albert Nahmad: Celtics don

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[QUOTE]Andy Larsen: While Daryl Morey talked about upping his risk profile after GSW title, talking to Dennis Lindsey today, he prefers to stay

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5454880-155/utah-jazz-hayward-to-have-free

might be gone by Monday

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5454026-155/utah-jazz-draft-picks-mitchell-bradley


"This is where I hoped I would end up," he said. "Just the way they play, very balanced, was really similar to the way we played at Gonzaga. All we wanted to do was win. I think that's what you see here with the Utah Jazz."

Goss too!


Gobert and Dante Exum have also spoken to him personally to congratulate and welcome him to the Jazz.

That's nice of Dante considering he may take your job

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https://twitter.com/AndrewDBailey/status/879535674457821184/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.deseretnews.com%2Farticle %2F865683744%2FMorning-links-How-do-Whittingham-Sitake-rank-among-college-coaches-Kresimir-Cosic-a-top-all-time.html
:bowdown:

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865683875/Jazz-newcomers-have-what-every-team-wants-2-length.html


Kevin McHale is said to have been just 6-10, but possessing an 8-foot wingspan. Wilt Chamberlain was seven inches longer in reach than height. Manute Bol, the 7-7 former player, had an 8-foot reach.

so much for Rudy!


Rudy Gobert, at 7-2, has an 8-foot wingspan. George Hill is 6-2, but has a 7-foot reach. Gordon Hayward is 6-8 with 7-foot reach.

wrong

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865683857/What-the-Utah-Jazz-could-look-like-next-season-with-or-without-Gordon-Hayward.html

[QUOTE]With Hayward, the Jazz

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865683861/How-the-Chris-Paul-trade-affects-the-Utah-Jazz.html

[QUOTE]The Jazz, who are looking to upgrade their roster before Gordon Hayward hits free agency next week, had interest in trading for Beverley.

Now that the defensive-minded point guard is off the market, the Jazz

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/06/28/utah-jazz-rumors-gordon-hayward-wants-jazz-retain-george-hill/

[QUOTE], the Deseret News

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/06/28/james-southerland-joins-utah-jazz-summer-league-squad/

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[QUOTE]Some members of the organization also see point guard George Hill as a potential free-agent target. Hill had a strong season in Utah and most around the league expect him to remain with the Jazz or end up in San Antonio. Minnesota, which has interest in several top point guards, also could be a destination for Hill. The Knicks would likely have to create cap space to sign either Teague or Hill.

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[QUOTE]Los Angeles Clippers forward Luc Mbah a Moute will decline player option to test unrestricted free-agency, league sources tell ESPN.

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Ailene Voisin: Most NBA scouts question doubt Teodosic

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Without hesitation, the former Butler University standout responded with,

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Marc Stein: League sources: Gordon Hayward just officially notified Utah he

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=44835989&nid=304&title=gordon-hayward-opts-out-of-contract-with-jazz-enters-free-agency


"Because of the city, the organization, the level of the team, Quin (Snyder), the development staff, and Rudy (Gobert), we're confident," Jazz general manager Dennis Lindsey said about his feeling about keeping his incumbent free agents Hayward and George Hill. "We'll find out if it's over-confident or appropriately placed."

No mention of the other members of the big 3 or the savior Dante? :confusedshrug:

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865683980/Money-matters-What-the-Jazz-Celtics-and-Heat-can-offer-Hayward.html

Ainge's son with the assist! :applause:

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865683896/Ranking-the-best-NBA-free-agents-and-players-with-local-ties-to-keep-an-eye-on.Joe Ingles, Utah Jazz


Ingles is one of the best-kept secrets in the league. He is a three-and-D guy who is also a gifted passer. He was one of the key members of the Jazz in 2016-17, and he's definitely a player who is very important to resign.

time to say goodbye

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865683899/Analysis-6-players-the-Jazz-should-target-if-Gordon-Hayward-leaves.html


if Hayward leaves, replacing him with a scorer like Anthony would be ideal, especially since Utah would have the cap space it takes to sign Anthony if he does get bought out from his contract. At this stage in his career, Anthony might want to seek stability. The Jazz can provide exactly that.

:wtf:

[QUOTE]Unless the Jazz land a star, they

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2718117-blockbuster-trade-ideas-entering-2017-nba-free-agency


Minnesota Timberwolves Receive: Rodney Hood, Dante Exum, 2019 second-round pick

a lot to give up for someone that can't shoot!


Trading away Dante Exum would hurt.

hurt the Wolves?

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/6/29/15895408/nba-summer-2017-utah-jazz-dante-exum-baron-davis-las-vegas

[QUOTE]All of these are great signs for the future of the Jazz, now if that one little free agent signing can happen soon, we

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/06/29/utah-jazz-consider-23-nba-free-agents/


Tim Hardaway Jr.

Hawks aren't letting him go

[QUOTE]You may feel more comfortable giving him the big payday as opposed to Hill, who is on the wrong side of 30. However, that leads us to the other problem

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http://sircharlesincharge.com/2017/06/28/nba-free-agency-landing-spots-george-hill/


Spurs I can see. The others not so much

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http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246572/Paul-Millsap-Has-Discussed-Sign-And-Trade-With-Hawks

They can have Johnson back!

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http://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/246547/2017-Offseason-Preview-Utah-Jazz


Consider that Hayward will command a max deal, or near max, if he gives Utah a slight hometown discount, Hill is looking at between $16-20 million annually, and Joe Ingles will get plenty of offers as a versatile wing in restricted free agency, you are already looking at the Jazz being a tax payer in 2018. But it goes even deeper than that.

Both Rodney Hood and Dante Exum are eligible for extensions of their Rookie Scale deals this summer.

Who cares about Hood and Exum though? Prove you deserve to get paid than talk

[QUOTE]Hood had recurring knee issues all season that kept him to just 59 games. He

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Brad Turner: Free agents Clippers interested in: Jonathan Simmons, Rudy Gay, Danilo Gallinari, P.J. Tucker, James Johnson, Joe Ingles, Andre Iguodala.

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Tony Jones: Alex Jensen will coach the Utah Jazz in summer league next week, sources tell the Salt Lake Tribune. Zach Guthrie will coach in Las Vegas

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[QUOTE]George Hill, having just completed the final year of a five-year, $40 million deal that he originally signed with the Pacers in 2012, has changed agents prior to becoming an unrestricted free agent on July 1. Hill has hired Matthew Ward, Ward confirmed to VigilantSports.com. This isn

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[QUOTE]Tony Jones: I

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[QUOTE]Mitch Lawrence: G Hill to Cavs, Kyrie to Utah, part of potential 3-way, with Paul George the main headliner joining LeBron. Pacers seeking top picks.

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Zach Lowe:

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http://www.ksl.com/?nid=304&sid=44838098&title=jazz-announce-summer-league-roster-featuring-dante-exum


The Utah Jazz announced their summer league roster Thursday, including a talented backcourt that should be one of the best in summer league competition.

Exum should probably be the best player in the whole summer league. He should dominate. Why Summer league and not D-league last year though?

No mention of Ty Wallace yet again! He is there property. He will likely get one of the two way contracts. He's comparable to the Golden Child Exum actually!

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http://www.ksl.com/?nid=304&sid=44841500&title=jazz-point-guard-scenario-to-influence-hayward-decision


How the Utah Jazz address their point guard situation could affect the All-Star's decision as much as anything else.

I'm guessing how they address the whole roster will affect it. Him and Rudy need a lot of help.


"It sounds really similar to when I was transferring to Gonzaga," Williams-Goss said. "... Like being the quarterback for the Patriots or the pitcher for the Yankees. It's a very marquee position in their organization. It's the same here.

Don't think it's really marquee with the way they play. The 1,2,3 and some of their bigs play the same way basically. Need more talent period

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865683982/Jazz-GM-confident-in-ability-to-re-sign-Hayward-Hill-and-Ingles.html

[QUOTE]

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865683989/Utah-Jazz-announce-summer-league-roster-includes-Exum-Bolomboy-trio-of-2017-draft-picks.html


Tyrone Wallace, a 2016 draft pick by Utah who spent last season playing for the Salt Lake City Stars, is also on the roster the team announced Thursday. Noticeably absent from the roster is guard Marcus Paige, the 55th overall selection in last year's draft who the Jazz traded for and played for the Stars in 2016-17.

They have 5 pgs now without Hill and Mack. Is anyone surprised? I wonder what he thinks of the decision to go to fall camp now?

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http://saltcityhoops.com/latest-hayward-chatter-creates-a-conundrum/


Adam Kaufman ✔ @AdamMKaufman
One thing working against #Jazz in Gordon Hayward sweepstakes: per source, he's upset with Utah's reluctance to pay Hill/Ingles big money.
9:50 AM - 29 Jun 2017

What reluctance? They are going to get big money.

[QUOTE]If the Jazz sign Hayward, Hill (let

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/6/30/15900664/nba-summer-2017-utah-jazz-roster-dante-exum-joel-bolomboy-gordon-hayward

[QUOTE]There are a lot of point guards on the roster so it

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http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246597/Fourth-Mystery-Team-Could-Schedule-Last-Minute-Meeting-With-Gordon-Hayward

The Spurs I imagine

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Utah forward Gordon Hayward is entering his free agent visits this weekend with an open mind and without a clear favorite, a source very close to the player said Thursday.

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[QUOTE]Marc Stein: Deadline Day for the Jazz to use $16 mil in cap space that expires at midnight. As covered here earlier this week, Utah covets Ricky Rubio

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[QUOTE]Jody Genessy: Another source confirms that Gordon Hayward really wants the Utah Jazz to bring back George Hill. His decision could hinge on that. The Jazz are in a pickle because they

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Sam Amick: Danilo Gallinari landscape heading into tonight: 9 teams interested, some contenders, w/ Denver/Kings too. Likely takes a few days to unfold

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865684014/Mehic-To-keep-Gordon-Hayward-Utah-Jazz-must-join-arms-race.html

[QUOTE]Other teams, including the Jazz, could

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865683993/2017-NBA-free-agency-guide-What-Utah-Jazz-fans-should-know.html


The teams listed next to each name are the ones expected to express interest in them.

Gordon Hayward: Boston Celtics, Miami Heat, Los Angeles Clippers, Oklahoma City Thunder

Can't see wanting to play with Westbrook


George Hill: San Antonio Spurs, Toronto Raptors, Dallas Mavericks, Brooklyn Nets

Nets and Dallas I don't see


Joe Ingles (restricted): Brooklyn Nets

Nets overpay! :bowdown:

[QUOTE]The Jazz are expected to retain Ingles, who verbalized his desire to stay in Utah. Re-signing Hill is something the Jazz would like to do, but haven

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Rubio? why? I'd still sign Hill if he's willing to play the 2. They need more talent not less

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=44848499&nid=304&title=utah-jazz-trade-for-point-guard-ricky-rubio-before-free-agency


The Jazz were able to fit Rubio's contract, about $14.5 million, into their cap space which was expiring at 10 p.m. MT Friday. Last season's starting point guard, George Hill, is a free agent this offseason.

So Lyles wasn't traded just because Denver wanted him? Big surprise! :lol

Don't think they could have done this without that trade


Rubio has shot just 31 percent from the 3-point line in his NBA career, and makes only 48 percent of layups within three feet of the basket.

Now have at least 3 pg's that can't shoot or make a lay up. It just gets worse! :rant


ESPN's real plus-minus ranked Rubio as the ninth best point guard in the NBA in on-court value.

thanks ESPN :mad:

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5462568-155/utah-jazz-trade-for-guard-ricky


he's become a very good rebounder

they like that!

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David J. Smith @davidjsmith1232
48 point guard minutes of 6'4" Ricky Rubio and 6'6" Dante Exum on defense.

Who cares? How long is he? I doubt as long as Hill

Neto hopefully is the back-up anyway

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/06/30/utah-jazz-top-free-agents-target-gordon-hayward-leaves/3/

Gallinari looking more likely with Hayward all but gone

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http://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/246611/Grading-The-Deal-Jazz-Trade-For-Ricky-Rubio-As-Wolves-Make-Way-For-New-Point-Guard


Grade for Jazz: A-

I say F. Makes little sense no matter what they do after this

[QUOTE]Rubio has been on the trading block for months and he

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Rubio is 6'4 with 7'0 wingspan

now I get it

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[QUOTE]Marc Stein: On top of the Rubio score and Utah

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[QUOTE]Alex Kennedy: The Knicks have considered moving Courtney Lee in order to free up cap space. If Lee is moved, NY will pursue significant FA point guards.

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Well, our D should be good, but imagine Rubio and Exum on court together? Wouldn't be able to hit the side of a barn!

They didn't want to/couldn't pay George Hill $25 million a year for his 50 games, so I guess this is the next best alternative I guess to potentially keep Hayward happy, especially if it gives them enough space to keep Ingles too.

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Well, our D should be good, but imagine Rubio and Exum on court together? Wouldn't be able to hit the side of a barn!

They didn't want to/couldn't pay George Hill $25 million a year for his 50 games, so I guess this is the next best alternative I guess to potentially keep Hayward happy, especially if it gives them enough space to keep Ingles too.

Imagine a line-up of Exum, Rubio, Favors and Gobert. Jerry ball returns! I'd guess Favors has to go now for sure or he'll be coming off the bench and demand to go.

I think Ingles needs to go if Hayward stays for some reason. Might as well keep him if the lottery is the goal I guess though.

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[QUOTE]One name that came up in talks was Ryan Anderson, per sources. But the Knicks said at that time that they weren

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Rubio was teammates and roommates with Jazz wing Joe Ingles when the pair played in Barcelona in 2010 before Rubio came to the NBA. Jazz draftee Donovan Mitchell also welcomed Rubio to the Jazz.

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5462811-155/kragthorpe-jazzs-trade-for-ricky-rubio


All I know is Jazz general manager Dennis Lindsey had to make Friday's move. Imagine the reaction in the coming days if the Jazz had lost Hayward and Hill in free agency, without anyone to replace either of them.

Rather have Neto starting


What's clear at the moment is Rubio is better than any other point guard on the Jazz's current roster

no it's not


Lindsey didn't have to trade Rodney Hood or Derrick Favors to get him

Probably rather have the pick especially now that they are tanking again


So the only way anyone could criticize this trade is to say confidently that Hayward was convinced that Hill would re-sign with the Jazz, and then Hill actually would do so, and then Hill would remain healthy at age 31 in 2017-18 and for years to come, unlike last season. That's connecting a lot of dots.

but those dots make sense. These do not


And why wouldn't Hayward like Rubio? He's a true point guard who will set up his teammates

because Rubio's defender will be doubling Hayward

[QUOTE]he just has to play better than Hill's potential replacement in free agency

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865684043/Dante-Exum-Joel-Bolomboy-impress-in-Utah-Jazzs-first-Summer-League-practice.html

[QUOTE]Jensen said players looked rusty in the morning practice, but he liked what he saw from returning Jazz players Exum and Bolomboy.

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865684044/Ricky-Rubio-gets-a-home-where-they-know-great-guards.html


ESPN rates him ninth-best among point guards in real plus-minus, not far behind No. 6 Hill.

Wh cares if he's a poor fit. He needs to be on a team where everyone else can shoot. That is not Utah

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/6/30/15906824/2017-free-agency-ricky-rubio-utah-jazz-minnesota-timberwolves-trade-defensive-identity

[QUOTE]Rubio is fantastic in the open court. He

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[QUOTE]Rudy Gobert: Allright can we just fusion the east and the west, it

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The Clippers pass them too with Griffin signing

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[QUOTE]Tim Bontemps: Word on the street is that Utah Jazz forward Joe Ingles, a restricted free agent, could easily get around $15 million per in free agency.

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Minny has passed the Jazz. Back to the lottery. Lindsey and Snyder must be happy. Seems that's where they want to be.

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Let's hope the wizard doesn't pay Ingles 15 million a year now :no:

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5462808-155/utah-jazz-notes-dante-exum-joel


Jensen said he would consult with coach Quin Snyder on how to play Exum and Mitchell together, but said it was likely they'll spend a chunk of time on the floor with one another.

And Wallace and Goss. Need to give those 4 most of the minutes at the 1-3.

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865684029/Gordon-Hayward-staying-in-Utah-National-media-is-not-convinced.html

be stupid to stay at this point

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[QUOTE]Tony Jones: The San Antonio Spurs and Denver Nuggets are expressing interest in point guard George Hill, sources tell The Salt Lake Tribune

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Scott Agness: Gordon Hayward and his wife, Robyn, are in Miami and will meet with Heat officials today. Then Boston and Utah. vigilantsports.com/2017/06/28/gor

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[QUOTE]The Spurs might still address the point guard position. They

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[QUOTE]Brad Turner: Clippers to meet with Danilo Gallinari Sunday, also with Joe Ingles and Jonathan Simmons this weekend, per source.

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Michael Gallagher: Woj on ESPN: Clippers focused on Danilo Gallinari and Joe Ingles.

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[QUOTE]Alex Kennedy: Things have been surprisingly quiet regarding Paul Millsap.

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Jody Genessy: Gordon Hayward

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[QUOTE]Michael Gallagher: Woj on ESPN: Gordon Hayward has been engaged with the Jazz this offseason. Woj notes working with Jazz trainers, etc. Jazz are confident.

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Utah

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[QUOTE]Tony Jones on Gordon Hayward

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Denver has reached out to George Hill since the free agency period started but the Knicks have not yet, per league sources. Denver has serious interest in Hill but would need to create cap space to sign the point guard. The club can do that by letting Danilo Gallinari walk in free agency.

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Tim Bontemps: While Joe Ingles has serious interest from Orlando, sources say he has three meetings lined up with teams tomorrow to survey the field.

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Shams Charania: Sources: George Hill, Spurs discussions broke off. Denver and New York have so far made initial contact with Hill, one of top PGs on market.

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[QUOTE]Frank Isola: Source close to free agent Paul Millsap says Denver and Minnesota have emerged as frontrunners. Sacramento and Phoenix still in the mix.

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Michael Scotto: Paul Millsap has a meeting lined up with the Minnesota Timberwolves today, league sources told Basketball Insiders.

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Adam Joseph‏: The Brooklyn Nets are one of the teams who have secured a meeting with free agent Joe Ingles, sources tell @16WinsARing

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https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-free-agency/2017/7/1/15906596/nba-free-agency-2017-rumors-utah-jazz-jamychal-green-serge-ibaka-patrick-patterson-lamarcus-aldridge


JaMychal Green, RFA - Only 26 years old, and he put up shooting splits of 50/38/80 (TS% of .601!!!). He had the best ORB%, DRB%, and TRB% of any other power forward mentioned here. WS/48 of .132, which is fantastic for a 3rd year player. Grizzlies likely match any reasonable offers, probably up to the $20~ million a year range. If Utah can somehow pry him away from Memphis without them matching, he fits the mold of everything the Jazz could want in a 4.

He'd be a great get. Money should be no problem now

[QUOTE]Why Utah doesn

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Saw Mitchell on the news last night. He's got an NBA build already. If he can knock down the NBA 3 maybe he can help them sooner than later

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/07/01/crazy-day-nba-offseason-major-implications-utah-jazz/

[QUOTE]Rubio is on a relatively friendly deal for a starting point guard with a contract of about $14 million during each of the next two years. That

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/07/01/utah-jazz-trading-ricky-rubio-brilliant-move-dennis-lindsey/


Not only do the Jazz get a young point guard who can contribute right away, but they saved themselves a lot of money.

We don't know that actually. What we do know is Hill is worth more. Perfect fit. Hayward wanted him back. Rubio can't shoot

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http://dunkingwithwolves.com/2017/06/30/ricky-rubio-trade-rumors-come-to-and-end/

[QUOTE]The same result will happen for this trade. Meaning if Utah doesn

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http://fansided.com/2017/06/30/5-winners-and-losers-from-ricky-rubio-trade-to-utah-jazz/

[QUOTE]You just went from a team that has plenty of loaded, young talent in their lineup, and finally has a chance to contend in the Western Conference after years of coming up short, to a team that won

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http://fansided.com/2017/06/30/nba-trade-grades-ricky-rubio-jazz/


it seemed like the chances of Gordon Hayward returning to Utah were minimal at best

How do you figure? Boston didn't get George.

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http://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/246619/The-Maximum-Available-2017-Cap-Space-For-All-30-NBA-Teams-Version-70

still plenty to work with. Not sure what you do at this point though. 1 year in the playoffs and back to tanking :rant

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Spencer Checketts: Probably has already been reported, but just in case: The Utah Jazz are meeting with Joe Ingles today in Los Angeles.

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[QUOTE]Ian Begley‏: One move Bucks are trying to accomplish at the moment: moving Greg Monroe, per sources. They

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The Miami Heat are turning up the

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Alex Kennedy‏: Several teams have had discussions with the Cleveland Cavaliers regarding an Iman Shumpert trade, according to sources.

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5463028-155/kragthorpe-ex-byu-star-danny-ainge-fighting


So will Miami's Pat Riley become Pat Conway, in the Hayward sweepstakes? That seems like a long shot.

More likely, this competition is between the Jazz/Lindsey and the Celtics/Ainge.

Looks like the Jazz pulled out of the race on draft day really


Lindsey's credentials, by comparisons, are modest. Yet with the added challenge of working in the West, he has succeeded in matching Boston's recent rebuild.

no he hasn't. Without Rudy they are Orlando


Lindsey's biggest hits were drafting Rudy Gobert, hiring coach Quin Snyder, signing free agent Joe Johnson and trading for point guards George Hill and Ricky Rubio in successive summers. He's also had some misses, such as drafting Trey Burke.

Rubio is his biggest miss yet


The Jazz already covered the potential loss of Hill in free agency by trading for Rubio, but who could replace Hayward?

someone better than Rubio

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5463026-155/monson-what-do-the-jazz-do


Paul Millsap is a possibility. He is the one veteran the Jazz hated to see leave when they started their rebuild a few years ago.

Come on! They let him go for 8 million a year for 2 years. Blew it with Demarre too

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How Donovan Mitchell

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[QUOTE]David Aldridge: Hearing MIN also may be out of Millsap talks, clearing the way for possible resolution w/Denver, meeting w/him tonight. Would be great fit.

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Steve Kyler: Summer League buzz

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=44862558&nid=304&title=jazz-notes-gordon-hayward-meets-with-miami-ingles-meets-with-utah-and-more


In the end, it's looking like Hill will sign for something under what he was offered by the Jazz in extension talks just three months ago. It won't be with Utah.

just pay him to be the 2 guard


Exum's 3-point shot looked good in the portion of practice media was allowed to witness. During one stretch, on corner threes and moving to the wing, Exum made 20 of 24 looks from beyond the arc. But then as he transitioned to a drill testing his mid-range dribble pull-up shooting, Exum struggled mightily, missing seven to eight shots in a row. Exum's also struggled with ball handling at times during the competitive part of workouts, according to a source.

If he could just hit open 2s and play D he'd be valuable

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Reported Ingles is staying. 4/52 million deal. Must like being in Utah to take a cheaper deal.

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I thought he might take a lot less the way he was talking. Starting SG. Need a back-up center now.

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[QUOTE]Utah now has $94M in guaranteed contracts (not including the $7.5M Boris Diaw non-guaranteed contract) with the Joe Ingles four-year, $52M contract. Ingles has a $4.18M cap hold (vs. a $11.6M cap hit) and expect the Jazz to leave the hold against the cap in case Utah will need to create room.

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Rudy Gobert: ����☘️������ – via Twitter rudygobert27

He's happy so you had to pay him I guess.

A message from Rudy. Funny guy!

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[QUOTE]Adrian Wojnarowski: Ingles is one of Gordon Hayward

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/07/02/utah-jazz-pursue-andrew-bogut-free-agency/

another guy to not stretch the floor. why not? :rolleyes:

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ESPN

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Do you want Mack to stay or do you think he should go so we can have more time for exum/burks etc...?

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Also it seems like Miami and Boston have a lot going their way currently as far as Hayward is concerned. We'll have to wait another week I imagine though to really see what's going to happen

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Jazz have not upgraded. Why would he stay?

Can't see them keeping Mack. They have Rubio, Exum, Neto, Mitchell, Goss and Wallace already. Exum and Neto should fight for the back-up one with Exum also being able to play some wing if he doesn't continue sucking. Can see the others being in the mix by the end of the year too. Could still cut Neto but he's cheap and proven unlike the others

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True, I like Neto. I'm really not sold on Exum though, he always shows flashes but nothing ever sustained, so we shouldn't expect anything better. And yeah the Jazz haven't upgraded this offseason, or even held even. I'm probably optimistic to a fault, but I still think Utah has a good chance seeing as Gobert is the best player between Mia/Bos/Utah

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=44870507&nid=304&title=jazz-notes-hayward-meets-with-celtics-at-fenway-park-rudy-gobert-emoji-tweets


Tyrone Wallace hasn't been forgotten about in Utah

actually he has by the media. Marcus Paige gets talked about still though! :wtf:


"We've been going hard in the weight room. I'm trying to put some muscle and some weight on to get stronger," Wallace said. "On the court, I'm continuing to work on my shot and my finishes at the rim. Working on the complete package."

Nice. Thats all the stuff he needed to work on. Some of the same issues as Exum and he's only a year older and a lot cheaper! Has a better handle to


He's a very good candidate for one of the NBA's new 2-way roster spots if he continues on this trajectory.

I'd think those spots are his and Goss' to lose. But what if they play close to Exum's level in Summer league though?

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Ricky Rubio: Now with all this 💰 you must have a mansion. You better have an extra room for me. Roommates like old times 😁

him and Ingles were roomies apparently too

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[QUOTE]Bobby Marks: To sign Paul Millsap into room, Denver will likely have to release the Danilo Gallinari and Roy Hibbert cap holds.

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[QUOTE]Kevin O

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/07/03/utah-jazz-still-yet-to-move-alec-burks/


After a third straight season cut short by injury, it would seem that Alec Burks is on the trading block.

Does anyone even pay attention to the Jazz? Right now they would have to give up assets to get someone to take Burks. They will go into the season with him and hope he gets healthy. Then I can see them trading him because he doesn't fit

[QUOTE]Provided the Jazz dig right into the luxury tax, which I

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Adam Himmelsbach: Source says Gordon Hayward isn

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Exum said he wasn

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So did Hill (or his former agent) just totally overestimate how much teams were willing to pay him as a free agent? Turned down a Jazz extension and talked about wanting $100+ million or whatever and now is negotiating a 1 year deal with the Lakers.

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So did Hill (or his former agent) just totally overestimate how much teams were willing to pay him as a free agent? Turned down a Jazz extension and talked about wanting $100+ million or whatever and now is negotiating a 1 year deal with the Lakers.

Pretty sad. The market dried up and teams are weary of his injuries I imagine. Try to have a big year in LA and get paid next year I guess. Hard to believe he's going to the Lakers. Why not sign him to play the 2 for the Jazz even if it's only one year?

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Pretty sad. The market dried up and teams are weary of his injuries I imagine. Try to have a big year in LA and get paid next year I guess. Hard to believe he's going to the Lakers. Why not sign him to play the 2 for the Jazz even if it's only one year?
Sounds like what the Lakers have planned. Ball as the PG and Hill at the 2.

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Sounds like what the Lakers have planned. Ball as the PG and Hill at the 2.

sucks. Must be something we don't know about as far as Hill and the Jazz

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[QUOTE]Ramona Shelburne: For those reading tea leaves on Gordon Hayward, word is he told Jazz he wanted Rubio & would love to play w/ him

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Alex Kennedy: People around the NBA believe that Gordon Hayward

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[QUOTE]Millsap was not surprised by the Hawks decision. Nothing, he said, surprises him after 11 years in the NBA. However, he admitted to being disappointed by the end of relationship that helped him blossom into one of the top power forwards in the league. All four of Millsap

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Tony Jones: The Jazz meeting with Gordon Hayward is ongoing, sources tell The Tribune

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Victor Sharma: Zach Lowe just said on his podcast that he believes the Knicks have a FA deal done with someone and they

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5469445-155/kragthorpe-could-the-jazz-miss-the

Could they make the playoffs without him would be a better question. Right now they aren't close with the moves Denver and Minnesota have made. Last place in the division looks likely. The wizard Lindsey! :rant

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http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865684152/Analysis-Ricky-Rubios-shooting-should-concern-Utah-Jazz.html

[QUOTE] Since arriving five years ago, Jazz general manager Dennis Lindsey has acquired players that fit the modern system.

But Lindsey

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/7/3/15917694/nba-summer-2017-league-utah-jazz-dante-exum-marcus-smart-boston-celtics


He has to do only simple things now. Make the right pass. Be aggressive. Be a pest on defense. And you know, dominate.

He did it before when he outplayed Boston Celtics guard Marcus Smart. He has to do it again here. Play so well that the Jazz coaches are FORCED to shut you down for the summer.

They shut him down last time because of a sprained ankle but yeah he should be the best player out there and they can concentrate on playing the young guys once he has. Definitely be bad for him if Mitchell, Goss or Wallace out play him

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/7/3/15917658/nba-summer-2017-utah-jazz-joel-bolomboy-trey-lyles-jeremy-evans-derrick-favors-gobert-tony-bradley

[QUOTE]My hope for him is to become the 4th big in the Jazz rotation by season

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/7/3/15917602/nba-summer-2017-utah-jazz-donovan-mitchell-interview-ricky-rubio-gordon-hayward

[QUOTE]Mitchell isn

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https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-free-agency/2017/7/3/15916832/nba-free-agency-rumors-2017-gordon-hayward-utah-jazz-boston-celtics-miami-heat-ricky-rubio-gobert


As has already been talked about, Adrian Wojnarowski reported that the talks with George Hill broke down after he turned down a 4 year $80 million extension with the Jazz. (Man, life comes at you fast.)

Don't think we know that the Jazz offered him the max they could, I can see them trying to be cheap and him electing to be a free agent

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/7/3/15912848/nba-summer-2017-utah-jazz-vs-san-antonio-spurs-dejounte-murray-dante-exum-joel-bolomboy


Who To Watch: Utah Jazz
The Summer Jazz are headlined by young Aussie point guard Dante Exum, Louisville standout Donovan Mitchell, G-League star Joel Bolomboy, and North Carolina center Tony Bradley.

no Wallace again :rolleyes:


Who to Watch: San Antonio Spurs

No mention of Hanlan who looked good for the Jazz last year in his 1 game

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http://www.nba.com/jazz/bobby-hansen-make-alumni-appearance-utah-jazz-summer-league

He sucked! :lol

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/07/03/utah-jazz-roster-upgrades-gordon-hayward-stays/

Why not make moves before to make it so he can't leave?

No moves if he leaves to stay relevant?

Even if they start the year in tax territory they can make moves later to get under it so they don't need to give picks away to get rid of Burks and Favors now. They already had to for Pleiss because his value was going to go up any.

Johnson should be the first guy to go to me but than I wouldn't have paid Ingles either.

Bogut is the perfect fit. Can't shoot either! :facepalm

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http://purpleandblues.com/2017/07/03/utah-jazz-free-agency-update-current-former-jazzmen/6/

He'd be a great fit for last year's team. Not sure what's going on now. Back in the 90's again I guess


some Jazz fans had hoped and dreamed that Utah could find a way to make the appropriate moves to welcome former fan favorite Paul Millsap back into their ranks. Unfortunately, such an idea was a long-shot to begin with and likely was never truly in the cards.

Hard for me to see him picking Denver over Utah if the Jazz offered him that contract and they could have if they weren't cheap.

[QUOTE]Withey may have to battle just to make a team

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Encouraging half for Dante. 3's off the dribble. A couple finishes and a great block at the rim.

Wallace looks bigger and better. He made a floater which was something he needed to work on.

Mitchell is definitely skilled. Showing a 3 ball. Getting used to the speed still with 4 fouls.

Bradley is a big kid. His shot looked decent.

Bolomboy is still too skinny and didn't look that good

Tokoto played well

No Goss? Hasn't signed his contract or they just wanted to give minutes to other guys and he'll play after Dante is shut down?

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2 blocks for Bradley

Mitchell has already passed Dante. Locke was trying to say Hood would be playing but I'm not sure he'll last the year

Tokoto played a good game. Maybe he'll challenge for a 2 way deal

Griffin can fly!

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Gordon Scott Hayward (Gordon

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[QUOTE]Austin Horton: Not from Hayward (obviously) or the Jazz, but I

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[QUOTE]Ryan McDonald: Just connected this: Saw stuff saying Gobert & Rubio didn

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=44889169&nid=304&title=the-triple-team-donovan-mitchell-dante-exum-impress-in-summer-league-action


had one of the best first summer league games of any player I've seen. Mitchell scored 23 points on 10-17 shooting, including 3-6 from that longer NBA 3-point line. He added five assists, and impressively for a rookie in the chaos of summer league, had no turnovers. He added two highlight-reel rebounds over the trees inside. It was an impressive offensive performance, and Mitchell looked like the best player on the floor, like he'll be ready for real NBA minutes from day one.

I'm thinking maybe the best for the Jazz since Deron's 2nd summer before they shut him down. They might want to shut him and Exum down and let Goss, Wallace, etc. play instead. Looks like he could be in the mix as a starter even. Should be a lot of competition at the 1 and 2. Need help up front still though. Bolomboy didn't do much


seeing new things out of Exum was promising, and it will be interesting to see how he compares to elite rookie guard prospects like Markelle Fultz of the Sixers.

More concerned on how he'll look compared to Neto, Mitchell, Hood, Burks, Ingles etc. Be gone by the trade deadline if he can't compete with them


It seemed like Raul Neto and Alec Burks were going to be the only Jazz players in attendance for the game, but at the very end, Rudy Gobert and new point guard Ricky Rubio came for the final three minutes of the contest.

Didn't show Alec. The public address announcer tld the crowd they were there and didn't even mention Neto. Give the kid some respect. He can play

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http://www.ksl.com/?sid=44889291&nid=304&title=jazz-notes-hayward-meets-with-jazz-torn-on-his-decision


The meeting went well, according to multiple media reports, and lasted about 3 and a half hours. That's shorter than Hayward's meeting with Boston and Miami, though both of those locations toured Hayward and wife Robyn around the city. That wasn't necessary with the Jazz's meeting, which took place at Hayward's home near San Diego.

They already know each other too. Shouldn't need as long


That Hood was also part of the pitch is notable too, and may mean that the Jazz view Hood as an important piece of their long-term future.

Might be because if they lost Hayward he probably will be. Otherwise I think he's got a lot to prove this year too. Could be gone by the trade deadline. If Exum can hit shots and defend he and Mitchell will be ahead of him for the future. Ingles already is. Burks is certainly comparable if healthy


I've heard that Gallinari represented a reasonable Plan B choice if Hayward decided to leave. But if "The Rooster" is off the market, it's not immediately clear what the Jazz's Plan C would be.

Ingles. Mitchell or Exum starts at the 2. Get a back-up center that can play some 4 when Favors gets dealt. Or a 4 that can play some 5 though I was hoping Bolomboy would be ready for some rotation minutes. None of the top back-up bigs have been signed. Go all in there. Trade Johnson and Diaw. That's what I'd look to do. Fill out the roster with some good end of the bench vets. Might be able to take on some contracts too with cap space. After December look to deal some of the guys that could be gone after the season depending on how things are going. Favors, Hood, Exum, Neto, etc.

[Xiao Yao You]

http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5471237-155/utah-jazz-await-gordon-haywards-decision


For the Jazz, retaining Gordon Hayward is all that's left.

Still need a back-up big regardless. Diaw isn't the answer

[Xiao Yao You]

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865684198/A-third-Aussie-on-Jazz-Mitch-Creek-can-use-Joe-Ingles-as-inspiration.html

[QUOTE] No worries, mate! He dribbled a pass of someone

[El Kabong]

Sounds like Hayward is off to Miami.

[Xiao Yao You]

That was fake I guess. Word is it's Utah or Boston

[Xiao Yao You]

http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5470758-155/kragthorpe-gordon-haywards-breakup-with-jazz

[QUOTE]Maybe the Jazz's failure to agree with Hayward on a contract extension four years ago

[Xiao Yao You]

Hopefully the Jazz show some class and hang his number when he's done playing.

[Xiao Yao You]

http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5470829-155/utah-jazz-gordon-hayward-spurns-jazz


In the four years since the Jazz won 25 games and were among the worst teams in the NBA, General Manager Dennis Lindsey has taken the franchise through a masterful rebuild.

Let Millsap and Demarre go. Drafted Burke and Lyles. Traded for Rubio. Over payed Ingles. Got lucky with Rudy. Masterful?:facepalm


Without Hayward, the Jazz will also rely more on fourth-year shooting guard Rodney Hood, who has the ability to be a feature scorer.

He's still a 6th man


Utah also has a deep bench

Not really. Looks like the competition at the 1 and 2 might be pretty good. Thin everywhere else


Joe Johnson and Boris Diaw came to Utah to be a part of deep playoff runs, and suddenly the postseason outlook for the Jazz is bleak. What happens to them?

gone if they are smart


And what happens with Derrick Favors, who has one year left on his contract?

Gone as soon as he shows he can play again

[Xiao Yao You]

I'd guess they might move Rubio too

[Xiao Yao You]

Let the Gobert/Mitchell era begin! :cheers:

[Xiao Yao You]

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865684199/Gordon-Hayward-reportedly-set-to-sign-with-the-Boston-Celtics.html


Steve Starks @StevenStarks
We trust Gordon and his agent that no decision has been made. Good communication all day and a great relationship.
1:02 PM - 4 Jul 2017

Got to think it was leaked and that he is gone

[Xiao Yao You]

https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/7/4/15919504/2017-free-agency-gordon-hayward-signs-boston-celtics-utah-jazz-miami-heat-danny-ainge


Otto Porter the only other small forward who possibly could try to fill the void of the 1 time all-star is a restricted free agent and most expect the Washington Wizards to match.

Might be worth it to offer him the max. He's young

[Xiao Yao You]

Steve Starks (Utah Jazz president): We trust Gordon and his agent that no decision has been made. Good communication all day and a great relationship.

[Xiao Yao You]

Spencer Checketts: Can confirm that neither Boston or Utah have been informed of an official decision from Hayward camp as of now. – via Twitter 1280Spence

Hayward hasn’t yet informed the Jazz he has decided to sign with Boston, sources told ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski. – via ESPN

Boston would now need a series of transactions to create cap space for Gordon Hayward. The Celtics would have to pull the qualifying offer on Kelly Olynyk, renounce free agents Jonas Jerebko, James Young, Gerald Green and waive the contracts of Jordan Mickey and Demetrius Jackson (or trade). – via ESPN

Jazz could use Kelly and Jerebko.


Jason Jones: FYI: The third year of Hill’s contract is partially guaranteed. – via Twitter mr_jasonjones

Would have probably got more years and money if he'd signed in March

[Xiao Yao You]

Looks like they will be one of the 5 or 6 worst teams in the west now. Hayward's replacement in the lottery next year

[El Kabong]

Hill taking 3 years/$57 million from the Kings.

Surprised he wasn't kept if that was all it took

[Xiao Yao You]

Hill taking 3 years/$57 million from the Kings.

Surprised he wasn't kept if that was all it took


Yep and the 3rd year is a partial guarantee.

[Xiao Yao You]

[QUOTE]Ronald Tillery: JaMychal

[Xiao Yao You]

[QUOTE]With Gordon Hayward now agreeing to a four-year $127M max contract, Celtics management now has a series of transactions to do in order to create cap space. The Celtics would have to pull the qualifying offer on Kelly Olynyk, renounce free agents Jonas Jerebko, James Young, Gerald Green and waive the contracts of Jordan Mickey and Demetrius Jackson (or trade).

[Xiao Yao You]

[QUOTE]Michael Scotto: The Utah Jazz have scheduled a meeting with Washington Wizards restricted free agent Otto Porter, league sources told Basketball Insiders.

[Xiao Yao You]

[QUOTE]Adrian Wojnarowski: Jazz GM Dennis Lindsey wishes Hayward family

[Xiao Yao You]

Tony Jones: Confirming reports that Otto Porter is a prime target for the Utah Jazz, now that Gordon Hayward is off to Boston

[Xiao Yao You]

[QUOTE]Andy Larsen: On Otto Porter: for Jazz to offer him, he

[WayOfWad3]

Stinks about Hayward, but now we'll get to see a much more featured Gobert which will be a lot of fun to watch. I'm excited for Mitchell, more playing time for him. I'm obviously bummed, but all is not lost

[Xiao Yao You]

Jeff Zillgitt: Can confirm Otto Porter will sign four-year, $106.5M offer sheet from the Nets. Wizards will have until 11:59 p.m. ET on Saturday to match.

[Xiao Yao You]

[QUOTE]Alex Kennedy: With Otto Porter signing Nets

[Xiao Yao You]

I could see Goss and Wallace being in the mix later on in the year possibly as well. Trade Johnson and Diaw. Favors/Bolomboy at the 4. Rudy and the yet to be signed back-up

[Xiao Yao You]

Alex Kennedy ✔ @AlexKennedyNBA
The Utah Jazz have expressed interest in Rudy Gay now that Gordon Hayward has moved on. Also interested in Otto Porter as @MikeAScotto said.
7:14 PM - 4 Jul 2017

makes little sense once again.

[Xiao Yao You]

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865684219/Now-that-Hayward-has-left-the-Jazz-will-have-to-get-creative-to-replace-him.html


The NBA luxury tax line, something the Jazz have never crossed, will be set at $119 million.

twice

[Xiao Yao You]

[QUOTE]Tony Jones: The Jazz and free agent forward James Johnson have mutual interest, League Sources tell The Salt Lake Tribune

[Xiao Yao You]

[QUOTE]Dan Wetzel: So Gordon Hayward was conflicted and wrestling with the decision, yet he managed to own a 2100 word column on it. Legendary deadline writer.

[Xiao Yao You]

https://www.slcdunk.com/research-statistics-analytics/2017/7/5/15921306/nba-free-agency-2017-gordon-hayward-boston-celtics-utah-jazz-pete-maravich-adrian-dantley-best-wing


He didn’t get to start right off the bat and play big minutes as a rookie, but he was a bigger part of the rotation than Derrick Favors (the #3 pick of that same 2010 Draft class). He was the only one out of the Favors, Enes Kanter (#3, 2011), Alec Burks (#12, 2011) group that had a regular role in the roster for much of their rookie contract.

all rotation players except Burks


Or that he would one day have a statue in front of the Delta Center EnergySolutions Arena Vivint Smart Home Arena Aunt Viv — that was the last straw for me.

How dare the Jazz’ own propaganda wing forget their own history? Gordon Hayward? Up there with John and Karl? Really?

Sloan isn't up with them either

Hard to put anyone ahead of him on the list as far as all-around game. Him leaving doesn't diminish what he did

[Xiao Yao You]

http://purpleandblues.com/2017/07/05/utah-jazzs-donovan-mitchell-draft-day-steal/

[QUOTE]when Mitchell was on the floor for the Jazz, he looked like he was more NBA-ready and, in my eyes, he should

[Xiao Yao You]

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865684258/Agent-tells-Gordon-Haywards-side-of-the-story-from-a-wild-day.html

Jazz should have made the moves so he couldn't have said no. Rookies and Ingles and Rubio was a step back

[Xiao Yao You]

[QUOTE]Adrian Wojnarowski: Sources: Boston, Utah sign-and-trade talks dormant since AM. Celtics engaged throughout NBA on Avery Bradley, Marcus Smart and Jae Crowder.

[Xiao Yao You]

Michael Scotto: Sources: Miami Heat and James Johnson have agreed to a 4-year, $60+ million deal.

[Xiao Yao You]

[QUOTE]While Utah won

[Xiao Yao You]

Sirius XM NBA:

[Xiao Yao You]

[QUOTE]Aaron Falk: Dante Exum says he intends to continue working with Baron Davis at times throughout the summer. Quin Snyder helped get the two together.

[Xiao Yao You]

[QUOTE]Trevor Booker: I like this Donovan Mitchell kid

[Xiao Yao You]

[QUOTE]Scott Howard-Cooper: Dennis Lindsey, asked if he was comfortable at how Hayward handled departure:

[Xiao Yao You]

Andy Larsen: Dennis Lindsey: “We believe Ricky Rubio will be a 2017 facsimile of Jason Kidd.” – via Twitter andyblarsen

Kidd wouldn't work today either. I'd prefer Rubio over Kidd. At least Rubio doesn't take a lot of shots unlike Kidd though Kidd could make a lay-up

[Xiao Yao You]

[QUOTE]Andy Larsen: Dennis Lindsey:

[Xiao Yao You]

Spencer Checketts: Jazz have gone quiet, but source tells me team is highly disappointed with the manner in which Hayward handle his exit. I

[Xiao Yao You]

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=44912388&nid=304&title=the-triple-team-dante-exum-wins-matchup-against-markelle-fultz


The marquee positional matchup of the Utah Jazz summer league probably happened Wednesday night, with Dante Exum facing No. 1 pick Markelle Fultz at the point guard position.

Both of those players impressed, but it's fair to say that Exum won the matchup by a hair.

not that encouraging after 4 years really


that's one reason why the Jazz are beginning to envision Exum as a primarily off-ball player: so he can catch the ball with an advantage and do his thing.

The fact that he hasn't looked like a pg is the main reason. They've love his length at the 1 defensively

[QUOTE]Griffin has a contract for next season with Pallacanestro Cant

[Xiao Yao You]

How did Goss look? I was on a plane. Can't get the box score either!

[Xiao Yao You]

Goss 6 TO's against Philly! Some 3's steals and a block though

[Xiao Yao You]

Bolomboy played better it looks like

[Xiao Yao You]

Goss hit the boards in the last oneas did Wallace with some playmaking.

Michell struggled but had 4 steals

[Xiao Yao You]

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=44923047&nid=304&title=jazz-notes-trevor-booker-explains-why-gordon-hayward-left-utah-free-agent-movement


Again, the Jazz would likely have to trade an additional asset to the Celtics in order to entice them to trade Crowder to Utah instead of the other 28 teams. But Crowder would be a great fit in Utah as a 3-and-D combo forward, and his contract is great.

What kind of asset? A 2nd rounder?

[Xiao Yao You]

http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5476906-155/with-gordon-hayward-leaving-town-jazz?page=2


"Certainly having wing size and getting that replacement would be very key," Lindsey said. "There's not as many prospects left on the board because of the timing. So we'll take a look at it. We'll look at prospects at really every level, whether it be European or some of the summer league prospects and we'll find someone hungry who can help us defend on the wing."

Don't really see it being the biggest need. Back-up center is as far as I can see. If the guys you have don't cut it make moves later on in the year especially with Favors.


With that said, we believe Rudy Gobert is the best center in the NBA. We think Ricky Rubio is going to be a 2017 facsimile of Jason Kidd. Rodney Hood can be a primary scorer. We'll start there. Derrick Favors is now healthy; he's a unique defender."

1 out of 4 anyway

[Xiao Yao You]

http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5477904-155/kragthorpe-jazz-try-to-move-on

[QUOTE]Bobby Hansen's alumni visit Wednesday was a reminder that Gordon Hayward is not the first big-time playoff performer the Jazz have ever lost

[Xiao Yao You]

http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5477705-155/jazz-sign-first-round-draft-picks-donovan


Mitchell and Donovan can surely provide a boost, however, Lindsey is not ready to pinpoint what the rookies will be called on to provide.

"We don't want to put too much [on them] too soon," said Lindsey.

Mitchell and Donovan can surely provide a boost, however, Lindsey is not ready to pinpoint what the rookies will be called on to provide. "We don't want to put too much [on them] too soon," said Lindsey.

Same guy! :wtf:

I'm sure they will call on them too much too soon. Have with everyone but Bolomboy and Wallace

[Xiao Yao You]

http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5478157-155/dante-exum-looks-to-translate-jazz


That's been Exum's goal throughout summer, a critical one for his future with the Jazz. Four years into their careers, lottery picks are expected to produce.

Don't matter where they are pickes they have to produce. He's playing for a job in the NBA! No more guarantees because of where you were drafted or your age