2017 Fall camp and pre-season!

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Been waiting for them to add a 20th player to the roster before starting this but I guess that's not happening for some reason! :wtf:

Ready to finally see guys play instead of reading how great everyone is

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[QUOTE]Andy Larsen: Rubio:

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[QUOTE]Andy Larsen: Rodney Hood

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Andy Larsen: Quin Snyder:

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Tony Jones: Dennis Lindsey: We reject the premise that if you don

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http://*********.com/2017/08/10/season-preview-utah-jazz/

[QUOTE]WEAKNESSES: It

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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=45935272&nid=304&title=jazz-media-day-live-blog

[QUOTE]Bolomboy says that he wants to put his mediocre summer league performance behind him, and show his coaches that he

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865689588/Utah-Jazzs-Joel-Bolomboy-evades-mental-hurdles-amid-uncertainty.html


the Jazz have filled the roster, employing more players than the league allows, and that means the Jazz must cut at least one before the beginning of the season. With Rudy Gobert, Favors, Jonas Jerebko, Ekpe Udoh, Tony Bradley and Eric Griffin under contract, the Jazz have one of the deepest frontcourts in the NBA.

3 proven NBA players is deep? :facepalm

This intern ought to work for the jnotes.com :lol

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David Locke @Lockedonsports
Alec Burks game is still explosive, better than last. Been working on strengthening his leg and making threes.

I think they need t let him play his game. Seems like to me they have screwed him up trying to turn him into something he's not

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David Locke @Lockedonsports
First off-season for Exum was spent in LA. He's back and ready to adjust his pace, mentality and "relax" while on the court.

Is that going to help him make shots and defend again?

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Ryan McDonald @ryanwmcdonald
Asked if anyone has gotten noticeably better, Rodney Hood first said Alec Burks
3h

Jody Genessy @DJJazzyJody
Rodney Hood said it's been good seeing Alec Burks back healthy and explosive.

Can't wait! Maybe we should talk about Exum some more though. :rolleyes:

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Ryan McDonald @ryanwmcdonald
Rodney Hood also looks quite a bit bigger

Good to hear!

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/9/25/16364468/nba-media-day-preseason-utah-jazz-alec-burks-healthy-injury-free

[QUOTE]

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/9/25/16364338/nba-media-day-preseason-utah-jazz-dante-exum-confident-about-season

[QUOTE]Tony Jones @tribjazz
Dante Exum -

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/09/25/utah-jazz-quin-snyder-starting-five-undetermined/

[QUOTE]Fans and prognosticators may have their first five set for the Utah Jazz, but head coach Quin Snyder is still figuring his starting lineup out.

When he joined GM Dennis Lindsey at the podium during Utah Jazz Media Day, head coach Quin Snyder was asked who would comprise the team

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/09/25/utah-jazz-tony-bradley-donovan-mitchells-chauffer/

[QUOTE]During the team

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/09/25/utah-jazz-media-day-rodney-hood-mip/

[QUOTE]These numbers have been making the rounds for a while now, but his past performance sans Hayward gives hope to the concept that he

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/09/25/utah-jazz-announce-2017-18-training-camp-roster/

[QUOTE]If you count Raul Neto, the Jazz have 16 players inked to guaranteed deals against a 15-man regular season maximum. Joel Bolomboy and Royce O

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[QUOTE]Dan Steinberg: Scott Brooks just advocated for the free chick Fil a free throw promotion to be expanded to the entire game. Rip up the sports front

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/09/26/ahead-of-training-camp-utah-jazz-have-already-made-strides-in-team-chemistry/

[QUOTE]Dennis Lindsey said the team got

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865689636/Jazz-optimistic-as-they-begin-two-a-days-at-renovated-facilities.html

[QUOTE]Snyder wouldn

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865689634/Jazz-notes-No-more-3-point-flopping-Contract-extensions-for-Hood-Exum.html


many felt that offensive players took too far the task to lean into their defender to try to get fouled for three free throws

Lets hope they get rid of that crap. It's awful. The defender stands there with his arms up and the offensive player throws his arms into him and it's a foul on the defender? :facepalm

[QUOTE]Favors has said in the past that he prefers playing power forward over center, but on Monday he said he

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http://saltcityhoops.com/the-rubio-effect-jazz-offense-about-to-get-some-fluff/


Snyder has also not had a point guard (or anyone) with the skill set, and more essentially the mindset to create transition opportunities. Rubio provides this ability in spades.

except he sucks in transition :wtf:

[QUOTE]Those videos are great examples of plays that Hill would never have attempted to make. Hill was great at taking care of the ball, and it

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/9/25/16365030/2017-nba-media-day-utah-jazz-derrick-favors-is-healthy-gordon-hayward-instagram-donald-trump


Many before the start of last season had Derrick Favors pegged as the Utah Jazz player that would be an All-Star and All-NBA player first before Gordon Hayward and Rudy Gobert. But Derrick’s knee had other plans.

Who thought that? Rudy has been there best player for almost 3 years now. :coleman:


With Derrick, Alec, Rodney and Dante healthy again, with all the new players--Rubio, Mitchell, Udoh, Sefolosha, Jerebko and Bradley--and with Rudy, Joe Johnson, Joe Ingles and Neto, the Jazz have 14 players who could deserve minutes on this team.

Right now I'd say 11 and Wolters can only play 1/3 of the year with the Jazz. The jury is still out on Exum, Mitchell, Bradley, Udoh, Royce and Griffin.

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/9/25/16364518/nba-media-day-2017-utah-jazz-ricky-rubio-new-team-new-look-growing-up-quin-snyder


It should be noted he averaged four 3s a game with the Spanish Team making 36.3% of them. By the way, 36.3% would be a career high for Ricky if he shot that over a season.

Sucked in their final two games. Please stop with this crap!

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/09/25/utah-jazz-stability-helm-difference-maker-ricky-rubio/


Rubio was highly touted as a brilliant passer and potential NBA star when he was drafted into the league. However, unfortunately a combination of early injuries, playing with a young team and enduring a constant coaching carousel in Minnesota have prevented him from truly becoming that player.

lack of shooting! :facepalm

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/09/25/utah-jazz-show-no-shortage-confidence-during-media-day/


Andy Larsen ✔ @andyblarsen
Rodney said so far Alec Burks and Donovan Mitchell have stood out in OTAs. Jonas Jerebko with communication on defense.
3:14 PM - Sep 25, 2017

But Dante and Ricky will be a stars!

[QUOTE]1280 The Zone @1280sports
Replying to @1280sports
Rudy:

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[QUOTE]Andy Larsen: The Jazz signed Taylor Braun to be their 20th and final training camp attendee. Braun averaged 8 points per game in the Bundesliga last year

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http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Taylor-Braun-18279/

Looks like a Jazz man or maybe Stars man in this case. Not long. Looks like he might actually be able to shoot though! :eek:

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[QUOTE]Andy Larsen: Jersey FYI: the Jazz will get new Statement jerseys every two years, new Community jerseys every single year.

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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=45944545&nid=294&title=ben-anderson-jazz-media-day-overshadowed-by-protests-absent-star

[QUOTE]Though Hayward isn

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/09/26/utah-jazz-notes-jazz-open-camp-by-working-on-what-else-defense/


For the third straight season, the Jazz will have a different starter at point guard

It's at least 4. Rubio, Hill, Neto/Mack, Burke


The second unit will be almost exclusively comprised of new faces, including rookie guard Donovan Mitchell and veteran small forward Thabo Sefalosha.

We'll see. One of them could start. No guarantee either is in the rotation either.


The Jazz have made a habit of bringing in famous basketball minds to watch practice, and then pick their brains afterwards.
Tom Thibadeau dropped by two years ago, before he went to the Minnesota Timberwolves. On Tuesday it was former Los Angeles Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak.

Going to have a 5th GM in the front office?

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865689647/Morning-links-Sitakes-BYU-coaching-tenure-examined-Jazz-future-looking-up.html


"Ultimately, the Jazz will have to find a go-to scorer to replace the shot creation lost with Hayward and George Hill both signing elsewhere," Pelton wrote. "If that player is found, Utah will remain competitive through Gobert's prime."

Maybe next year :cry:

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865689673/Utah-Jazz-sign-wing-Taylor-Braun-training-camp-roster-now-at-maximum-of-20-players.html


The 6-foot-7, 210-pound Braun played collegiately at North Dakota State and has spent the last three years playing in Europe. He first played for a team in Belgium and then was in Germany last season, where he averaged 8.0 points, 3.8 rebounds and 1.6 assists per game.

The Stars new coach is German. Might be why he got a spot?

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/9/26/16364738/nba-utah-jazz-media-day-2017-rudy-gobert-ricky-rubio-derrick-favors-alec-burks

[QUOTE]Hoops Hype has continued projecting the best players at each position. They

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http://*********.com/2017/09/25/we-have-projected-the-top-30-centers-for-2017-18/

Towns and Jokic have to play better D to be ahead of Rudy though Rudy may not be as good offesnively this year with the squad around him. Cousins! :roll:

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Gasol and a healthy Embiid are the only ones I could really see until someone proves otherwise

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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=45950153&nid=304&title=the-jazz-daily-training-camp-opens-with-first-practice-of-the-2017-18-season

Taylor Braun signed with the Jazz on Tuesday morning, giving the Jazz their 20th player. He's a North Dakota State alum, who most recently played with ratiopharm Ulm of the German Bundesliga. That Bundesliga tie, and the overwhelming likelihood that Braun is cut and is sent to the SLC Stars, means that new Stars head coach (and former Bundesliga head coach) Martin Schiller has his fingerprints all over this move.

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/09/26/can-this-jazz-team-figure-out-how-to-score-without-gordon-hayward/

[QUOTE]With Ricky [Rubio] and Rudy [Gobert] on the pick and roll and I

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/9/26/16364862/nba-preseason-jazz-rank-the-2017-2018-utah-jazz-roster-jonas-jerebko-11th

[QUOTE]I could see him playing his way into Quin Snyder

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https://hoopshabit.com/2017/09/26/utah-jazz-2017-18-nba-season-preview/

[QUOTE]Ricky Rubio, Dante Exum and Raul Neto are more than capable of filling the point guard minutes. Exum, in particular, is an intriguing piece this year with a spike in development and production in many people

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/9/27/16372542/utah-jazz-practice-donovan-mitchell-quin-snyder-dwane-wade-lebron-james-cavaliers-sign

[QUOTE]Donovan Mitchell spoke to media after practice and had a lot to say about his first official practice as a Jazzman.

My first impression is how easy it is to root for our promising new rookie. His personality shines every time he speaks to the media. My favorite thing he shared was how the Jazz focused on

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/09/27/utah-jazz/


Deron Williams was highly touted, but spent his rookie season playing behind veteran point guard Keith McLeod.

And Palacio! Jerry. :facepalm


Dante Exum was the fifth pick of the 2014 draft. He ended up a starter in the second half of the season, but that was out of necessity because Quin Snyder lost trust in Trey Burke.

Out of necessity because they didn't have an NBA pg until they finally brought Neto over


But almost all within the organization are expecting to make the postseason again, or at least contend for a playff spot. And Mitchell is expected to play a role in that.

I'm ok with him starting the year in the G-league


Mitchell enters training camp as a backup shooting guard.

He shouldn't. He needs to earn it


He has a two-way ability, even as a rookie, that the Jazz are going to need.

We'll see. If he can't hit open shots he'll have a tough time like much of the team

[QUOTE]Mitchell is also going to have to make up for some physical shortcomings. His frame is small for a shooting guard. At 6-foot-3, he

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David

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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=45963357&nid=304&title=the-jazz-daily-thabo-sefolosha-still-stellar-on-defense-impressing-on-offense


"I've known Thabo since I got in this league, and I know he's an all-around player who can play on both ends of the floor," Jerebko said. "In two weeks, he's shown a lot of offensive skills, and he's made a lot of shots. He's worked on his game this summer, you can tell."

If he's making shots at the rate he did during his peak in Oklahoma City, it would lift the Jazz in a really significant way. In the 2012-13 season, he shot 41.9 percent on 3.2 3-point shots per game. To give you some context, that's nearly identical to Joe Johnson's 3-point rate and accuracy last season.

5 years ago. Don't count on it!


Remember last year, when the biggest surprise of training camp was coming in to find out that Alec Burks and Derrick Favors weren't especially close to being healthy?

Don't remember hearing that about Favors. He looked improved in the first pre-season game and was never the same after


We don't want to wear (assistant coach) Igor Kokoskov out."

:lol


But a healthy roster at this point in the season is already a step forward compared to 2016-17.

2 days and 3 practices! :rolleyes:


Jerebko's going to be playing essentially all of his minutes on the Jazz in a stretch four role, someone Snyder can put on the floor who can shoot without losing a lot of size.

I imagine the 5 as well


He'll have to fight for those stretch four minutes with Joe Johnson. "Joe, in a pinch, can guard the three, though I think we'd like to keep him more at the four," Snyder said when asked about the 36-year-old veteran.

After what we saw last year it would be stupid to have him at the 3 unless the match-up really calls for it


Jerebko is kind of a hybrid option at the power forward spot: he's not as good of a shooter and scorer as Johnson, but a better screener and rebounder. Of course, if screening and rebounding is most important, Derrick Favors is the best option.

but he'll have to play the 5 when Rudy's pot at least with Joe. Jonas might be the 5 and Favors the 4 I guess but I would assume the other way around

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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=45971419&nid=304&title=jazz-streaming-delayed-other-broadcast-plans-announced


They're also broadcasting just two preseason games: Oct. 2 and Oct. 4 against the Sydney Kings and Maccabi Haifa.

lame! :rant

We still won't know if Exum can play against NBA players!

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865689813/Jazz-players-started-to-build-team-chemistry-earlier-in-the-summer-before-camp-began.html


In recent years, many Jazz players got together in Santa Barbara, but this year it was San Diego

Will they still be going to Santa Barbara for P3? They are supposed to ahve their own P3 set-up now so do they do it all in house?

[QUOTE]

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865689857/How-the-Utah-Jazz-have-evolved-through-advanced-analytics.html


The Utah Jazz, especially over the past several seasons, have delved deep into analytics, distancing themselves further from the style of basketball the legendary Jazz teams played.

It's been similar really. Just a more modern version of the same stuff. Looks like a Sloan team on paper this year for sure

[QUOTE]Having coached under Mike Budenholzer during his stint with the Atlanta Hawks

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https://pickandroll.com.au/three-things-watch-joe-ingles-201718-nba-season/

[QUOTE]Ingles

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/09/27/utah-jazz-coming-training-camp-healthy-thats-major-improvement/

[QUOTE]If the Jazz hadn

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Shams Charania: Sources: NBA has informed teams of projected salary cap in next two offseasons: $101M for 2018-19, $108M for 2019-20, subject to change.

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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=45975463&nid=304&title=the-jazz-daily-jazz-prepare-for-scrimmage-draft-and-player-rest-rule-changes-approved


This hasn't been a stated big focus so far in training camp, but it's come up enough times in passing that I'm eager to watch for it in the scrimmage and in the first preseason games.

It seems that a few members of the Jazz have been using a really high-energy pressuring style of defense to good effect so far. Take what Snyder said about Mitchell's defensive efforts Thursday:

"If you're on the wing and you want to get open, you better be ready to try hard. Because he's going to make it hard for you to catch the ball."

Rubio, too, said he's pressuring more than he was able to in Minnesota.

"With this coach, he gives me a lot of freedom," he said. "I go out there and pressure the ball and be aggressive."

And when Thabo Sefolosha talked about his defense today, he said, "there's a lot of it that's technique, there's a lot of it that's sheer will."

You may notice another commonality between those three players: they're new to the Jazz. In the past, a lot of Utah's players have talked about how playing with Rudy Gobert has freed them up to be more aggressive on the wing, knowing that Gobert is there to deal with anything at the rim. It seems like the newcomers are starting to realize the potential of playing with that force on the perimeter.

Rudy!

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/09/28/utah-jazz-notebook-developing-off-of-availability/


The players sat in a circle at Zions Bank Basketball Center on Thursday afternoon, stretching and recovering from what was a three-and-a-half hour practice.

And you wonder why theyve had so many injuries! :wtf:

[QUOTE]Veteran Denver Nuggets point guard Jameer Nelson suffered a toe injury in training camp and might not be ready for their regular-season opener against the Jazz. If he can

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/09/28/utah-jazz-dante-exum-rodney-hood-and-derrick-favors-all-in-contract-years-but-trying-not-to-worry-about-it/


Exum to fulfill his lottery pick promise at point guard.

How about he just shows he can play at the NBA level first?

[QUOTE]It

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865689896/Alec-Burks-is-healthy-and-ready-to-play-a-big-role-for-the-Jazz-this-season.html

Doesn't sound like Snyder is much of a fan still. Got to play him to trade him though

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http://saltcityhoops.com/the-necessary-transformation-of-rodney-hood/

[QUOTE]He significantly improved these numbers (14.5 points, 3.4 rebounds, 2.7 assists) his second season. In the process, some observers within and without Jazzland started to wonder if Hood rather than Hayward offered the most upside of Utah

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https://hoopshabit.com/2017/09/28/utah-jazz-2017-18-to-be-ricky-rubios-best-season-yet/

[QUOTE]Rubio arrived from the Minnesota Timberwolves in return for a 2019 first round pick via the Oklahoma City Thunder. The trade wasn

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865689842/Forecasting-the-Utah-Jazz7s-2017-18-win-total-with-Win-Shares.html


Can Ekpe Udoh and Tony Bradley back up Rudy Gobert?

they aren't expected to


Will former lottery picks Dante Exum and Alec Burks live up to their potential?

Can Exum hit a shot or defend is the question

[QUOTE]But right now, the math is on the Jazz

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2735016-2018-nba-draft-every-projected-lottery-teams-way-too-early-top-5-big-board


No. 6: Collin Sexton (Alabama, PG/SG, Freshman)

Sexton's rookie year would be Rubio's last under contract in Utah, and though there are still high hopes for Dante Exum, he isn't the same caliber scorer.

Mitchell is the future point. Is he long?


No. 7: Miles Bridges (Michigan State, SF/PF, Sophomore)

A future trio of Exum, Mitchell and Bridges would ooze athleticism and versatility.

A 3/4 would seem to make more sense at the moment. but the roster could look totally different by draft time. Is he long?


No. 8: Jaren Jackson Jr. (Michigan State, PF/C, Freshman)

With Derrick Favors entering the final year of his deal, the Jazz could look at Jackson, who's flashed greater defensive and shooting potential.

Might make sense. is he long?


No. 9: Kevin Knox (Kentucky, SF/PF, Freshman)

Knox could be the player Utah thought it was getting when the Jazz took Trey Lyles.

Is he long?

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[QUOTE]Tony Jones: I continue to hear the same thing from some within the organization: That Derrick Favors and Alec Burks have regained their athleticism

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/09/29/thabo-sefoloshas-defense-and-wit-will-fit-right-in-with-the-jazz/

His offense would play better at the 4 though

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/9/29/16383120/2017-nba-preseason-season-prediction-utah-jazz-minutes-distribution-rudy-gobert-donovan-mitchell


Players like Dante Exum and Donovan Mitchell will surely have certain games where they play over 20+ minutes that night, while they may also have games where they see only 12 minutes of floor time.

I've yet to anyone raving about Exum's play yet so he may not be on the team!


Dante Exum: It is possible that Dante breaks out this season.

More likely he continues to underwhelm though

[QUOTE]Donovan has to go through the rookie learning curve, whereas Burks and Exum will naturally be making less mistakes than Donovan thanks to their experience in the league. Will high potential win out? Or will experience and the

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/09/29/utah-jazz-notes-haywards-first-pitch-sefolosha/

[QUOTE]with a career mark approaching 35 percent, teams won

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/09/29/utah-jazz-preseason-ranking-northwest-division-17/4/


3) Utah Jazz

:facepalm


The offense is also a question mark. Not so much in terms of running it through Rodney Hood

That's certainly one of the biggest question marks. A 6th man is your go to guy?

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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=45987195&nid=304&title=jazz-hold-scrimmage-for-military-at-hill-air-force-base


The Jazz split up into teams so that the starting unit all played on one team, wearing gray. That meant that the starting Gray team in the scrimmage was Ricky Rubio, Rodney Hood, Joe Ingles, Derrick Favors, and Rudy Gobert. That's a good bet for the Jazz's day one starting lineup Monday.

Hood is a 6th man


One teammate of Joe Ingles' told me he's been shooting the ball as well or better than ever, and that was on display in the scrimmage.

Going to be tougher this year


Tony Bradley was really impressive to me. He rebounded and finished well, but my favorite part was when he got switched out on someone on the perimeter (admittedly, Royce O'Neale, not the quickest wing) and moved his feet well to force a turnover. He's very fundamentally sound, though had a fantastic block on Eric Griffin in transition.

Good to hear. Hopefully he does well with the Stars and can be in the rotaion later in the year


Dante Exum struggled to find his game at first, but had a lot more success in the second half against fellow Jazz benchers. He got to the free-throw line at will then, because his length and surprising layup timing forced defenders to foul him. "I thought he attacked, and I thought he made good decisions and tried to run the club, too," Snyder said.

Against the bench. Can he actually play? :confusedshrug:


Raul Neto is just so much fun. It's not that he did anything that we haven't seen him do before, but his vision and passing is special.

Too bad it will take another team to appreciate him

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865689975/Jazz-entertain-military-shake-off-the-rust-in-opening-scrimmage-at-Hill-AFB.html


Exum, who will be fighting for time this season behind Rubio at the point, and perhaps with several others on the wing, was impressive in the second half when he got to the basket several times for scores and also sank a 3-pointer.

wow a 3!

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/09/29/media-reactions-utah-jazz-scrimmage-hill-air-force-base/


Tony Jones @tribjazz
Man. Gobert may be in for a big year. He's on another level
2:48 PM - Sep 29, 2017

I expect he has improved. Too bad the team around him hasn't. It will be tough for him without shooters


Andy Larsen ✔ @andyblarsen
Gray team wins, 49-41. Rudy Gobert, Joe Ingles, Donovan Mitchell, Tony Bradley, and Raul Neto all really impressive.
3:21 PM - Sep 29, 2017

Bradley is the surprise. Hopefully he'll be ready to contribute later on in the year when the roster changes. Was he playing with Rudy? That would be big


Tony Jones @tribjazz
Joe Ingles looks like he's gotten better over the summer. He's been making a ton of plays
2:54 PM - Sep 29, 2017

Be surprised if he's a lot better


Tony Jones @tribjazz
Really like how Exum has played in the second half
3:11 PM - Sep 29, 2017

Maybe someday he'll put together a full game

[QUOTE]When all was said and done, the gray team, which originally consisted of Utah

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https://www.lockedonjazz.net/utah-jazz-scrimmage-ricky-rubios-contagious-passing-donovan-mitchell-scores-and-more-notes/

[QUOTE]Dante Exum was dominating driving to the rim in the 2nd half of the game when most of the main players were out of the game. Quin Snyder pointed out after the scrimmage that sometimes it is hard to tell how some of our guys are playing offensively because they run into Rudy in practice and there are only one or two defenders who can come close to Rudy. With Rudy out of the game, Dante was lightening quick getting by defenders and getting to the rim. Dante

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https://www.lockedonjazz.net/practice-1-defensive-minded-or-fast-paced-basketball-maybe-both/

[QUOTE]Donovan Mitchell met with the media after his first NBA practice and when asked if Coach Snyder had a message in his first practice he responded,

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https://hoopshabit.com/2017/09/29/utah-jazz-donovan-mitchells-rookie-year-chances/

[QUOTE]Mitchell has all the tools of a modern NBA shooting guard. He

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/09/30/utah-jazz-lifting-the-pace-joe-johnson-at-the-four/

[QUOTE]In Quin Snyder

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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=45996632&nid=304&title=the-jazz-daily-g-league-slc-stars-hold-tryouts-jazz-given-day-off


Arnovitz thinks the Jazz will be a top five defense. Not a new thought, certainly, but still interesting from a national voice.

Really going out on a limb with that one :rolleyes:


The best part of the conversation was about Dante Exum. It sounds like Arnovitz is a bigger fan, but Lowe has real questions about whether or not Exum will maintain his place in the rotation.

What spot? He hasn't really had a spot since he was a rookie and he was one of the worst offensive players ever that year! Last year him, Neto and Mack were all in and out and Neto had seemingly won the spot before getting injured at the end of the season. Of course it hasn't stopped the local hype about the guy. He needs to earn a spot. Simple as that!

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/09/30/new-jazz-point-guard-ricky-rubio-seeks-a-fresh-start-in-utah/

[QUOTE]But what

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/09/30/kragthorpe-jazzs-joe-ingles-says-of-his-new-contract-no-one-needs-that-much-money-how-refreshing-is-that/

[QUOTE] it would be unfair to Ingles, even insulting, to say the Jazz paid him just in hopes of making Hayward happy.
They wouldn

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/09/30/utah-jazz-bolstered-early-preseason-slate/

What sucks is that only the first two games are televised and we won't be able to actually see if Exum can play against NBA talent still

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https://hoopshabit.com/2017/09/30/utah-jazz-four-players-entering-contract-years-in-2017-18/

[QUOTE]As if there wasn

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https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/247556/Northwest-Division-Offseason-Review


The Utah Jazz did everything right.

Everything but being all in


the Jazz will be on the upswing again soon.

Just in time for Rudy to leave :cry:

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Sunday's 3-hour practice.

and still no injuries! :eek:


One matchup to watch Monday is at the center position: the Sydney Kings' Isaac Humphries, the 19-year-old who played minor minutes with Kentucky for two seasons before joining the Kings this summer will match up against Rudy Gobert.

And, in what will be motivation for Gobert, Humphries isn't afraid of the matchup:

"I've played against the best centers every day in college for two years, so I'm not really that worried about it," Humphries said. "He's a great player, but I'm quite used to playing against great players."

You have to admire his confidence, I suppose? But yeah, this isn't going to turn out well for Humphries.

Bulletin board material for Rudy! :cheers:


Here's the big question: will Exum find time ahead of Donovan Mitchell and Alec Burks? Maybe it's just relative to expectations, but I've heard much more about Mitchell and Burks' training camp performance from second-hand sources than Exum's contributions. We'll learn a lot more about how the battle for backup guard minutes shapes up among those three players in the first few games of preseason action.

Sounded to me like Neto played better in the scrimmage too not surprisingly

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Speaking of minute restrictions, Favors was very restricted last year because of knee and back problems that really hurt him. And when asked if he was back to his previous level of explosion, Snyder was positive, though maybe not 100 percent positive.

"I think so. I think in the last couple of months, he's pain free, which is the biggest thing," Snyder said. "We'll continue to see gains, and now that that's the case, he can continue to work on his body, his explosiveness and his lateral movement, and he can get back to the point where he's comfortable. He's getting closer."

Of course the Jazz have the medical testing on him: they've tested his lateral and vertical movement before the injury, and they've tested it afterwards. But understandably, they're keeping that information close to the vest.

Doesn't sound 100% still to me :banghead:

[QUOTE]"There was a stretch last year at Louisville where he handled the ball more," Snyder pointed out. Louisville went 4-2 over the stretch when Louisville PG Quentin Snider was injured, and Mitchell played pretty well during that stretch.

And former Louisville head coach Rick Pitino had pretty strong feelings about it. "Point guard is his natural position," Pitino told the New York Post. "But because of Quentin Snider, who

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/10/01/utah-jazz-no-longer-looking-back-quin-snyder-marches-into-fourth-season-at-the-helm/

[QUOTE]The feedback from the person whose opinion matters most, team owner Gail Miller, was overwhelmingly positive as she talked about the Jazz last week.

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Tilka-Portland, OR
Several years from now a young player will be asked if Dante Exum had an influence on his game. Instead of "flatly saying no" the kid will say, who is that?

:roll:

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865690094/A-Joe-Ingles-dunk--Ricky-to-Rudy--and-11-other-Utah-Jazz-scrimmage-highlights.html

Liked the move by Sefolosha

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865690095/Australias-Sydney-Kings-looking-forward-to-opportunity-to-play-Utah-Jazz-in-exhibition-on-Monday.html

[QUOTE]Perhaps it

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https://www.lockedonjazz.net/shootaround-notes-rubio-minutes-rotation-questions-and-forcing-turnovers/


Pre-season is not always the best indicator of rotations, but it will be interesting to see how and if Coach Snyder uses Alec Burks and Jonas Jerebko. Burks is healthy and has been a full participant in practice. However, with the rookie Donovan Mitchell and Dante Exum already in the back court the minutes for Burks may be limited.

Yeah I'd play the 2 guys that have proven nothing over the guy that is a proven scorer especially when you need scoring desperately


Jerebko played 17 minutes a night last year in Boston and gives the Jazz some unique shooting skills at the stretch 4. That is where Joe Johnson prospered last season and the Jazz offense was really tough to guard with Johnson at the 4. How Jerebko gets his minutes will be interesting.

As the 3rd or 4th big how else?

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[QUOTE] I think that Dant

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/2/16403492/nba-preseason-game-preview-sydney-kings-at-utah-jazz


With the team looking to compete for a playoff spot this season, expect Quin Snyder to have made his decision as to whether Favors and Gobert can play together by the end of preseason.

My guess is they already have made up their minds. Favors is still on the roster because he has to show other teams he can still play

[QUOTE]Ricky Rubio most likely is going to dominate the ball in a way Utah hasn

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/01/three-reasons-utah-jazz-offense-will-better-people-think/


defensive stops that turn into fast breaks could be more of a focal point, particularly with a passer like Rubio running the show.

except Rubio isn't good in transition!

[QUOTE] it seems apparent that catering to Hayward, the team

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https://clutchpoints.com/jazz-news-alec-burks-proclaims-himself-healthy-and-back-to-his-old-self/

[QUOTE]If Rodney Hood can

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/01/utah-jazz-watch-preseason/


Bolomboy will have to show some real growth for the Utah Jazz to reserve a roster spot for him.

As far as I'm concerned Exum is the guy that needs to show drastic improvement or they need to move on from him


Rodney is an extremely talented offensive player. He can score from anywhere on the floor and in a variety of ways. Two things have held him back in the past: 1) Health and 2) His mindset as a number 1 option.

I'd say he already had the mindset based on him rarely passing the ball. What has held him back is he's a bench player and he's been starting


Now, he should be healthy, and should have no set backs.

He shouldn't? Crystal ball? The flu ruined his season a year ago. It's fairly likely he might get the flu again:rolleyes:


The Jazz offense is one predicated on ball movement/player movement, and he should get shots up within the offense. I want to watch for how often he breaks out of the offense because he believes he can take his man and get his own shot.

99% of the time? You've never seen Hood play I take it. He won't be a go to guy. He'll be one of their top 4 scorers maybe even #1 but not a go to guy

The main thing I will be watching for is rather Exum belongs in the league yet. Can he hit an open shot and defend without his hands.

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He should have a lot more opportunities for rebounds anyway


2. Average over 20 points per game

I think his scoring might drop without shooters around him


1. Carry the Utah Jazz to the 2018 NBA Playoffs

tall task

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Where's Kabong?

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/2/16407242/nba-nbal-utah-jazz-vs-sydney-kings-recap-utah-rolls-to-a-25-point-win-108-103-joe-ingles-rudy-gobert


Joe Ingles and Dante Exum looked great playing a team from their home country. Joe Ingles played great defense while showing that irrational confidence that made him so much fun to watch last season. Dante Exum continues to display his improvement as he easily can get to the hoop and find the open man as he forces the defense to collapse on him during his drives.

Exum was not great. He got to the rim last year. He actually made a couple lay-ups this time though before missing one. Also hit an open 3, defended without fouling and made a couple nice passes. His game still doesn't excite me though. He doesn't have the feel for the game that Mitchell already has


The night, though, truly belonged to Rudy Gobert and Rodney Hood.

I didn't think Hood was that special. He hit some shots. 6th man


Donovan Mitchell most likely pushed himself into the early Rookie of the Year conversation with just one preseason game.

:lol


Derrick Favors played well tonight, but spacing was an issue.

big surprise!

[QUOTE]Ricky Rubio

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/02/icymi-utah-jazz-mind-blowing-fourth-jersey-accompanying-court/

orange court? :eek:

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/02/utah-jazz-preseason-week-one-outlook-predictions/4/

Who cares?

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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46027104&nid=304&title=the-triple-team-jazz-with-up-and-down-performance-in-win-over-sydney-kings


we have to say this about everything that follows in this game: every Jazz player who played Monday night is better than every Sydney Kings player. At peak form, the Jazz could have won this game by 50 points, not 25.

not sure about that


Things were not as good for the Jazz's second unit. The Jazz's bench is slated to be one of their strengths this year, but in the second quarter, they fell apart on both ends, allowing 32 points in the quarter and scoring just 23. What happened?

I think a bench with Hood, Burks, Johnson, Sefolsha and Jerebko could be scary. Mitchell looked like a starter last night to me. Neto and Burks both appear to be on the 4rd unit now


Rubio didn't hit a shot all game

not only that but he wasn't close!


The biggest problem for Favors is still this: his roll-to-the-rim duties have been taken by Gobert.

Yep but they staggered his minutes as expected so he'll get his chances


Dante Exum was good. He was somewhat responsible for the second-quarter swoon, but I liked what he did in finding his way to the basket, and he made his only three to boot. He still drives baseline more than most, but it worked Monday night.

will it work against NBA players though?


Ekpe Udoh went to the rim well, but also had a couple of embarrassing turnovers. I was surprised that he played next to Rudy Gobert and Derrick Favors. Can he play the four in Utah?

Might have been just to get him time. I thought he looked good though


Royce O'Neale was solid on defense and really limited on offense. He also lost a tooth!

looked like the new E. Millsap or Chris Johnson

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[QUOTE]First, the Jazz primary scorers, a point of discussion among Jazz fans this summer, will likely be Rudy Gobert and Rodney Hood. This should come as no surprise, as they are the team

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[QUOTE]Anyone looking for an early sign of the Jazz

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865690188/Jazz-happy-with-opening-night-play-except-for-awful-second-quarter.html


After that, it was a little surprising that rookie Mitchell was the next man in followed by Dante Exum, Sefolosha and Jonas Jerebko.

surprising he isn't starting from what I saw

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865690185/Jazz-coach-was-annoying-in-college-remembers-Australian-coach.html

[QUOTE]Royce O

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https://www.lockedonjazz.net/emptying-the-noggin-as-the-jazz-beat-the-sydney-kings-in-pre-season-game-1/


Huge focus by the Jazz to increase tempo after misses. The Jazz did this early in the game and ran away to a big lead. However, they were unable to sustain that for the entire night and that is what is so hard about trying to be a running team is maintaining that level of energy for the entire night.

If they are as deep as I keep reading than they should be able to


The Jazz played vertically at the rim all night. They were playing about the box all night. Ricky Rubio and Joe Ingles were feeding Rudy Gobert all night. It will be interesting to see against an NBA team with bigger guys if the Jazz are able to do the same thing.

doubt it


Dante Exum played tenacious defense in the 2nd half of the game and played with great juice.

He doesn't have a great feel for the game. I think if he's playing he should be off the ball and that's assuming he can make open shots

[QUOTE]Alec Burks 4th quarter was super exciting. He unofficially had 5 assists in the quarter. More importantly, he played the game a step ahead. He was seeing plays as they happened or even before they happened. His weakness in the past has been and he has self-admitted this, that he didn

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https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/wjx4wy/quin-snyders-russian-detour-made-him-one-of-the-nbas-top-coaches


"You can't be married to a certain style of play if your players don't fit that style," he said.

We're seeing that this year


During last year's playoffs, it took exactly zero minutes for him to realize Boris Diaw made no sense in Utah's starting lineup for its second-round matchup against the Warriors, even though Diaw started all seven games in the first round against the Los Angeles Clippers. (Diaw was replaced by Joe Johnson.)

And Johnson sucked and Boris played pretty well! :rolleyes:

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/03/utah-jazz-vs-sydney-kings-reactions-what-went-rightwrong/

[QUOTE]Ricky certainly has plenty of gifts, but if opponents become familiar with the fact that he can

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[QUOTE]Jody Genessy: Jazz coach Quin Snyder on Ricky Rubio

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[QUOTE]Jody Genessy: Donovan Mitchell (right hamstring tightness) doubtful Wednesday after not practicing today. Raul Neto (left quad tightness) is questionable.

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/10/03/jazz-notes-rudy-gobert-has-worked-hard-on-his-lob-warfare-this-offseason/

[QUOTE]

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/10/03/utah-jazz-can-derrick-favors-return-to-form-utahs-season-may-depend-on-it/

[QUOTE]He

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Wow!! That cheer and roar @TheGarden tonight was sending chills to my soul. Unbelievable

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/4/16418652/nba-jersey-week-best-and-worst-utah-jazz-unis-uni-watch-nike

Green was the worst. Yellow may top it and we've still yet to see orange! The powder blue was awful too. Should have changed the name and color scheme when they moved here in the first place!

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/4/16417246/2017-nba-all-star-game-format-change-utah-jazz-donovan-mitchell-rudy-gobert

Doesn't look like the wives of the Jazz players are anything special considering how their fame and money

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/04/utah-jazz-rudy-goberts-twitter-savagery-knows-no-bounds/

[QUOTE]Perhaps now that justice has been served and Rudy Gobert

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/03/utah-jazz-vs-maccabi-haifa-keys-to-the-game/


However, although they still won quite handily, particularly once the second unit came into the game the Jazz seemed to relax too much and their complacency was quite costly.

Was it complacency or is their 2nd unit just not that good?

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/4/16416800/nba-preseason-rankings-utah-jazz-roster-rank-thabo-sefolosha-9th


Sefolosha is still in the league because he is such a good defender. Basketball Reference has him as the 12th best defender last season, according to their defensive rating. You know you have a deep team if that is your 9th most valuable player.

You'll know it when they show it on the court which they didn't do against an inferior opponent Monday

[QUOTE]His offense leaves a lot to be desired, averaging only 5.9 points over his career. Hopefully he can continue his respectable 3pt shooting he

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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46044859&nid=304&title=the-jazz-daily-mitchell-neto-out-for-wednesday-the-return-of-ab


Donovan Mitchell and Raul Neto will both not play in Wednesday's game. Mitchell had tightness in his right hamstring and didn't practice Tuesday. Neto practiced Tuesday, but experienced tightness in his left quadriceps.

"We just want to be smart about it," Snyder said. And he also mentioned that it was in the Jazz's preseason plan to give more time to the end of the bench, guys like Burks, Nate Wolters and Royce O'Neale.

"We had planned on doing that anyway. We practiced really hard yesterday, so we anticipated doing that," Snyder said. "It's hard to be a 16-20 in camp. I've experienced that."

Wolters!


"Alec had a really good summer. In the month of August, he got a chance to play," Snyder said. "Offensively, he can make some plays, and he's really been focused defensively."

So why is he behind Exum?


"I want to get back to the physical player I was, but I'm definitely different than I was back then," Burks said. "I'm trying to mature my game."

What does that mean? "Just play at a slower pace, make better decisions, play smarter, play within the offense more, make better decisions than I was when I was that 23-year-old just running around all the time."

They've neutered him. He needs to go somewhere where he can play his game


"If we miss and Joe or Rodney gets the rebound, I want them to push and I want Ricky to run. If they don't get the rebound, I still want them to get out and run and for them to get the pass," Snyder said.

"(If a big rebounds), we want Ricky to have it or we want Dante to have it. Because of Ricky in transition and his ability to pass, I want Joe running to get to the corner so he can knock down that three. Or it's a situation where, because Ricky is so good at throwing the ball ahead, our wings are up the court are able to make plays."

"The main thing with Joe and Rodney and our wings is that I don't want them coming back to the ball. If they get an outlet, it should be a longer outlet," Snyder said.

There were a couple of times on Monday where Rubio tried those lengthy forward passes, but his teammates weren't used to getting the ball in those situations, so they cut their runs short. Rubio mentioned that he's talked to his teammates to trust him to get them the ball in those situations.

That's one problem with Exum playing is that he can't run to the corner. I'd rather Ingles had the ball in transition than Exum.

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[QUOTE]Each of the Jazz

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http://saltcityhoops.com/staff-scrimmage-pecking-order-of-jazz-player-value/


Shooting is going to be a problem this season, but if the team manages respectable offense despite that, it will be because Rubio has the reins.

and if they don't it will be because Rubio has the reins


Who will be the second best / most valuable Jazz player this season?

I really think Mitchell could be. Let him loose!

[QUOTE]Two years ago we were arguing about whether this was Favors

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/04/utah-jazz-rudy-gobert-interior-defender-survey/

[QUOTE]If you

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[QUOTE]David Locke: Joe Johnson and Rodney Hood are both resting tonight for the Utah Jazz

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Alec is back! Don't see how you can play Dante over him personally. Dante still missing lay-ups. Sefolosha missing wide open 3's though so did Ingles. Thabo looks good otherwise. Rubio trying to force too many passes. Udoh is a bit clumsy it appears.

Going to have some tough decisions. O'Neal looks good. 3 and D anyway. The rest of his game is a bit rough. Need to trade Johnson. Bolomboy looks ready to contribute. The Canadian kid looked good too. Stars could be loaded! Griffin can play. He should be at the end of the Jazz bench instead of O'Neal not on a two way.

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Before the game, I expected this Maccabi Haifa team to put up more of a challenge to the Jazz than the Sydney Kings. I was wrong, and it's not just the scoreline that reflects that.

I figured they would be too. Maybe Hood and Johnson not playing made the difference though?


Those clanks off the rim weren't really responsible for the Jazz's offensive success, though. The Jazz finished with only four fast-break points and a relatively average-efficiency 23 points off of the 18 Haifa turnovers.

Where's the fast break we've heard so much about? They are pushing it up court and looking for opportunities at least now


the Jazz bench shot really well from the outside. Both Alec Burks and Royce O'Neale were 3-for-3 from downtown, and Joel Bolomboy went 2-for-3. Overall, the Jazz shot 53.8 percent on their relatively open 3-point looks.

They need to trade some guys and make room for young guys eventually. Bolomboy and Royce can start the year in the G-league but they look like they are ready to play. Burks might be the 2nd best player on the team and their best offensive player at least. He's better than Hood certainly. I could even see starting him.


The Jazz did throw up 21 turnovers, but that can be mostly excused by the bench playing major minutes and Rubio trying to be a bit too aggressive.

tried to force to many things. Won't be able to do that against NBA teams


The Jazz have had one of the best records in the league in the last few years at beating bad teams, and I suspect that their offensive passing and defensive excellence will be enough to do that again this year. Against good teams? We'll have to wait and see.

Yeah I figure they will do well against most of the east again and the few bad teams in the west but will have a hard time getting wins against the others who are mostly in the west


Alec Burks led the Jazz in scoring (16 points), rebounding (eight rebounds, all defensive), and minutes (playing 23:03 off the bench) tonight. He could have had more, too: he missed an easy layup, and shot only 3-of-7 from the free throw line.

But I've been really encouraged by what I've seen from Burks in the preseason so far, both on and off the court. Obviously, the scoring is nice on a team that needs it, but he's given a generally good effort on the defensive end.

So what excuse will they have for playing Dante or even Hood or Sefolosha ahead of him? They need his scoring, shooting and playmaking. He rebounds. He's athletic. He's long.


Burks shot under 40 percent from within three feet of the hoop. That's bad.

that had more to do with his injuries than the way he finished though


avoiding contact isn't really worth it when the contact is worth two trips to the free-throw line.

He loves contact though. He isn't Hood!


It's still going to be difficult for Burks to really earn minutes: Rubio, Rodney Hood, Donovan Mitchell, and Exum all probably deserve time over Burks at the guard spot. But if he keeps playing this well, he's going to end up with some playing time in a contract year.

It's not a contract year. Not sure any of those guys deserve to play over him. Certainly not Exum or even Hood. Mitchell is comparable and you could even argue he offers more than Rubio because of Rubio's shooting. Burks ran the offense well!


Who to cut?
Both Royce O'Neale and Joel Bolomboy played really well for the Jazz tonight, while Raul Neto sat out due to left quadriceps tightness after two excellent showings. The reason those three players belong in the same sentence despite playing different positions at different times is this: all three are competing for the last two spots on the Jazz's 15-man roster.

I don't think anyone will necessarily be cut. I think trading Joe Johnson would be the best move if possible. Still don't get why they haven't already. Neto I imagine could be traded. He is a rotation player for someone that isn't obsessed with length and like guys that can play. Bolomoboy and Royce are both looking too good to cut as well. Exum is still young and is improving and ideally he would start the year in the G-league but supposedly he refused to go there last year so I'm not sure what you do with him. He's not one of their top 11 guys right now the way I see it. Might not even be ahead of Bolomboy or Royce or Griffin really!


O'Neale feels like a classic Jazz 3-and-D bet, along the same lines as Chris Johnson and Elijah Millsap.

They weren't 3 and D!


O'Neale probably has a better offensive feel than those guys, though, as well as a better 3-point jump shot. In college, he shot 40 percent, and internationally, he shot 33 percent. That's not great, but it's better than Millsap or Johnson.

Johnson had a better feel I'd say from what I've seen. Royce shoots the 3 better certainly!


Bolomboy has really played well in these first two preseason games after a really bad summer league that probably led to the Jazz signing O'Neale in the first place.

Doubt it had much to do with it. I'd say they liked Royce and wanted him from what I've seen. He's good.


He lacks the feel that O'Neale has, but might have the higher ceiling.

Not sure about that. Both might be in the rotation by the end of the season once the roster turns over


Raul Neto probably has the lowest ceiling of the three, but has just played so well, and so consistently before tonight. He also probably benefits from the positional math: he can be a solid third-string point guard, whereas Bolomboy might be the Jazz's fifth center, and O'Neale might be their eighth wing.

Neto is a proven rotational player. I think he could be like Barea but bigger and better with a shot. A pest defensively that can run an offense too. Bolomboy looks like he could deserve rotation minutes too based on last year and so far this pre-season. If O'Neale can defend and hit the 3 he is too!


Bolomboy makes almost as much ($1.3 million), and O'Neale makes the minimum ($815K). Both of the latter two have guaranteed contracts. Anyone who is waived is unlikely to stick around and play for the Salt Lake City Stars, in my opinion.

Bolomboy is only partially guaranteed. He has already proven himself in the G-league though it should be a lot better this year with the two way contracts and more money. Not sure if O'Neale has played there yet but the Jazz owe him regardless. Neto will get picked up I'm sure. They might want to go to the G-league because they are all close to NBA rotations I'd say


What will the Jazz do? My completely uninformed guess is cutting Bolomboy, but they have three more games to gather more info.

The only young 4 on the team and he hits 3's. Hard to see him going unless it's in a trade. O'Neale a 3 and D on a ream that loves D and lacks shooting. Hard to see him going either! Neto being traded seems more likely to me. Love him but he needs to play somewhere that they appreciate him. That's not Utah where length beats skill

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https://www.lockedonjazz.net/emptying-the-noggin-burks-oneale-and-bolomboy-shine-in-blowout-win/


Alec Burks continued his very strong pre-season. He hit some threes early and then drove to the rim with more control than he had in the past. He has always been a great rebounding guard and he had 8 tonight to go with his 16 points. Both of those lead the team. I am not sure where Alec Burks gets minutes with Dante Exum and Donovan Mitchell both in the guard rotation, but he is making a strong claim for playing time.

Dante needs to earn it. He's still missing lay-ups. He has to be able to hit shts and defend because I can't see putting the ball in his hands. Many others can run the offense better.

[QUOTE]O

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/10/05/jazz-cruise-to-easy-win-over-maccabi-haifa-117-78/

[QUOTE]Rubio started his second preseason game at Vivint Smart Home Arena at a disadvantage: The Jazz sat Rodney Hood in the starting lineup (rest), as well as Joe Johnson (rest), Donovan Mitchell (right hamstring) and Raul Neto (left quad). Without the needed shooting threat of Hood to start

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/5/16431242/the-downbeat-is-alec-burks-utah-jazz-preseason


If there are any possible areas for an early and unwarranted overreaction, it could be aimed at Jazz point guard Ricky Rubio. Rubio is yet to record a made field goal so far in two preseason games. Dante Exum, on the other hand, has played well in two games, which possibly opens up the discussion for a competition for the starting point guard spot.

Dante shouldn't be in the rotation. Burks or Mitchell instead of Rubio maybe but it's not happening!

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/4/16428040/2017-nba-preseasonutah-jazz-hands-on-haifa


Dante Exum missed some easy buckets at the rim, but he was getting there at ease

same as last year


Dante and Jonas Jerebko were probably the two best players for the Jazz today.

Burks! :wtf:

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/05/utah-jazz-2016-17-defense-best-ever-utah/

[QUOTE]And while we can

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/05/utah-jazz-vs-maccabi-haifa-reactions-went-rightwrong/

[QUOTE]for a second straight game, the play of Ricky Rubio was somewhat concerning. The Jazz largely knew what they were getting in the Spanish point guard, but there was still high hopes that his shooting could see major improvements this season. We

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/04/utah-jazz-maccabi-haifa-recap/


Exum was superb once again as he showed off his speed, defensive prowess and ability to read the offense. He looks like an entirely different player compared to last season and is proving to be more than capable of running the second unit and being a nightly contributor.

He looks improved but hardly a totally different player or someone that I'd want running the 2nd unit. Still can't finish and doesn't have a good feel for the game. He needs to play off the ball mostly and that's if he can hit 3's which he has in limited attempts so far and defend which he has without fouling even.

[QUOTE]When it comes down to it, however, I have a hard time seeing Bolomboy making Utah

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http://*********.com/2017/10/05/top-players-who-could-replace-injured-nicolas-batum-for-hornets/

Burks or Hood or Exum?

I'm thinking I wouldn't be giving Hood an extension unless it's very team friendly that's for sure. Burks or Mitchell look like they should be starting to me. Exum might be worth signing for the right price. He appears to be improving at least and is still young. The tough part is he doesn't fit into the rotation as far as I'm concerned unless they move some vets.

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/10/05/the-nba-is-reforming-the-draft-lottery-will-it-work/

[QUOTE]But celebrating tanking is something that former Utah Jazz CEO and NBA Board of Governors representative Greg Miller simply cannot understand.

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865690383/Utah-Jazz-notes-Who-will-be-the-15th-man-Rudy-Gobert-snubbed.html

[QUOTE]In essence, the battle for the Jazz

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/06/106-utah-jazz-vs-phoenix-suns-keys-game/2/


the Suns are certainly considered a mediocre team by NBA standards, but a mediocre NBA team definitely will present more of a challenge than a mediocre Israeli League team.

The Jazz are the definition of mediocre. The Suns are tanking

[QUOTE]The

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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46070989&nid=304&title=the-jazz-daily-dante-exum-learning-how-to-play-pg-no-tv-broadcast


That's one thing that league observers feel that Exum needs to improve: that feel for the game, making the kind of consistently great decisions that the NBA demands from its point guards.

The one thing? What about finishing? Can he shoot? He definitely doesn't have a good feel for the game though. Many guys on the team that should be running the offense before him still


But in order to maintain his place as a point guard in the NBA, it's plays like this that make the difference.

He has no place as a pg yet


It's unbelievable that there are still non-televised NBA games in 2017, especially at home. While the Jazz and AT&T SportsNet are under no contractual obligation to show the game, not doing so is a disservice to the fans who they make money from for the rest of the season. It's unnecessary penny-pinching to the extreme.

It's the franchise that talks about spending money and than downgrades the team and watches their best all-around player leave. Not surprising at all!

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/6/16434736/2017-nba-preseason-utah-jazz-the-downbeat-dante-exum-rudy-gobert-ricky-rubio-mannequin

[QUOTE]confidence (and injuries) has held Exum back thus far. With more confidence and an increased role on the team, the Jazz might be able to get their money

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/6/16431174/utah-jazz-2017-2018-roster-rank-dante-exum-8th


Due to his ACL tear in the summer of 2015, Dante got off to a slow start last year and had to work his way back into form.

Could we quit making excuses for him? His problem has been is he's learning to play basketball still. Not playing the year before the draft probably made him more money but it's hurt his career for sure

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[QUOTE]David Locke: Quin Snyder

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Andy Larsen: Raul Neto is out for tonight

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Looks like the rotation might have worked itself out? Dante hurt his shoulder

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Tony Jones: Exum dislocated his shoulder

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Andy Larsen: Jazz officially say Dante Exum will not return tonight due to the left shoulder injury. They did not specify injury type.

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left arm anyway

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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46075073&nid=304&title=the-triple-team-dante-exums-injury-overshadows-jazz-win#


The Jazz didn't shoot particularly well Friday night, only 41.2 percent from the floor. But what they did do was take a ton of shots: 97, to be precise. The highest number of shots the Jazz took in last year's regular season was 93, so that is a really high number for the Jazz.

Worse offensive players taking more shots. Sounds like a recipe for disaster


How did they do it? Through dominating the glass and forcing a ton of turnovers.

Will that work against good teams?


it wasn't a good situation for Mitchell to be thrown into. After Exum went down, Mitchell became the backup point guard by default in a game where the Jazz already didn't want to play Ricky Rubio a lot of minutes.

Probably just want to see what he can do. No reason Burks, Hood, Ingles, Johnson can't handle the ball more


Mitchell figures to play at least some point guard during Exum's injury, along with Raul Neto and perhaps Alec Burks.

All of them should be ahead of Exum anyway.

[QUOTE]"His efficiency, and not just his shot selection, but his decision-making will continue to improve. I won't say you live with some of that

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https://www.lockedonjazz.net/emptying-the-noggin-toughness-dante-injured-and-a-running-game/


The biggest thing that jumped out to me tonight is the Jazz are tougher than they have been in the past. Ricky Rubio battles for loose balls and is always in the mix. Donovan Mitchell, Thabo Sefolosha, Joe Ingles, Rudy Gobert and more are always scrapping. This team has a toughness to it.

Not sure about that. They lost some tough players over the summer and have had some before


This might be a bit of the model on how the Jazz are able to be successful offensive team this year. They dominate the glass and then hit some threes and that makes for at least an average offense.

Who's going to hit 3's especially if Burks and Neto aren't playing. Hard to see how Burks isn't playing or isn't the starter actually


Alec Burks continues his strong pre-season with 19 points, 6 rebounds and 1 assist. With Dante Exum out Burks may find himself with a roll in the rotation and with some serious playing time.

He's looking like their 2nd best player. Shouldn't take Dante's injury to have him playing big minutes. He's the most talented guy on the team except maybe the ill fitting Favors and we're seeing it finally! :applause:


Joel Bolomboy continues to play well. He has shown a variety of parts to his game. He hit another three. He played off the bounce. He showed his rebounding.

Need to move their 6th man of the year and get him in the llne-up

[QUOTE]Donovan Mitchell was forced into playing the point guard with Exum and Neto out of the game and it impacted his shooting. He went 3 for 16 from the field. Nothing to worry about it. He was generally in control and the shots weren

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/06/dante-exum-suffers-left-shoulder-injury-utah-jazz-preseason-game/


one of the brightest points for the Jazz thus far had been none other than the former fifth overall draft pick Dante Exum. The young man out of Australia had so much to prove coming into this season and in his first two games, he looked absolutely up to the task, even outplaying starting point guard Ricky Rubio.

He did not outplay Rubio nor has he been one of the brightest points. He's shown improvement. He hasn't shown he is a rotation player on this team to me anyway

[QUOTE]David J. Smith @davidjsmith1232
Not Dante again. Unbelievable. This kid deserves a chance to play and show the world what he can do.
7:40 PM - Oct 6, 2017

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/06/where-do-utah-jazz-players-stack-up-in-a-loaded-northwest-division/2/

[QUOTE]Assuming the rumors are true and Favors is back to being 100 percent, we could see him knocking on the door of becoming a top 10 player in this loaded division by the end of the season.

Favors is just two years removed from averaging 16 points and eight rebounds per game and looking primed to take the next step. If he can channel at least something close to what he was for the Jazz between 2014 and 2016, he could end up even higher on this list by season

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/10/07/source-jazzs-dante-exum-has-separated-shoulder-ligament-damage/

Be tougher to get rid of Neto now. Bolomboy is playing too good as well. He needs to be in the rotation in fact. O'Neale looks too good to let get away too. I'd look to trade Johnson or Sefolosha or Udoh I guess. I don't know what you do or can do at this point.

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[QUOTE]Adrian Wojnarowski: Sources: Utah

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Andy Larsen: Dante Exum update: we aren

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Bobby Marks: Utah would be eligible to apply for the Disabled Player Exception if Dante Exum is ruled out for the season. The exception would be worth $2.5M and the Jazz would need to clear a roster spot to use. Utah would only be allowed to sign, acquire in a trade or claim a player on the last year of their contract.

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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46079775&nid=304&title=dante-exums-season-in-doubt-after-left-shoulder-separation

Looks like maybe until the end of November minimum

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865690555/Utah-Jazz-video-Some-highs-and-the-low-from-Fridays-preseason-win-over-Phoenix.html

[QUOTE]Snyder said he

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https://www.lockedonjazz.net/impact-of-dante-exums-injury-on-exum-and-utah-jazz/


The Utah Jazz have great depth, but this injury is particularly hard for them to overcome.

Hurts their depth but makes their rotation better assuming he was part of it


Now without Exum, the Jazz have to either thrust rookie Donovan Mitchell into a ball-handling roll or play more traditional point guard Raul Neto. Neither scenario gives the Jazz anything similar to what Exum was able to deliver off the bench.

Both are still better players despite his improvement. Those aren't the only options. I'd start Burks. Bring Hood off the bench. Between Hood, Mitchell and Johnson they have 3 guys on the bench that can run the offense and Rubio, Burks and Ingles amongst the starters. Neto is available if needed

[QUOTE]Mitchell, who is loaded with skills, is still learning the NBA game. He has yet to adjust to the speed and length of NBA players. The first time burden of 82 games is intensified if he has ball handling duties night in and night out.

Putting this weight on Mitchell in his opening months of the NBA is not ideal. There is a thought he may one day be a hybrid guard, but the plan wasn

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/7/16441188/injury-report-dante-exum-2017-nba-preseason-miss-season-due-to-shoulder-injury-tj-warren


Dante Exum looked to be ready to seize on his potential. He had a top 10 PER in the NBA for preseason

:wtf:

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/07/utah-jazz-dante-exum-suffers-separated-shoulder-ligament-damage


Exum had looked incredible in preseason so far and was poised for a breakout season in 2017-18.

He looked improved. Incredible though? :coleman:


I still believe that Exum can be a star in this league

I don't. I think he may be able to play in the NBA but that's still just conjecture at this point though

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[QUOTE]Jody Genessy: Taylor Braun is being released by the Utah Jazz.

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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46082156&nid=304&title=the-jazz-daily-thabo-sefolosha-saves-a-life-injury-and-roster-updates


But given Exum's more serious one, I suspect Neto plays Monday in order to give him time to work with the second unit in a backup point guard role.

I doubt this changes anything for Neto except he will likely be on the team through December anyway. Burks is the one that moves into the 2nd unit. Hard to believe it would take an injury for him to play though! He should start


Braun is still planning on joining the Salt Lake City Stars for their training camp later this month. Stars head coach Martin Schiller said that he thinks Braun can be a "solid" D-League player on the wing.

He did have one moment in the sun at an NBA level, after Exum went out on Friday. League rules specify that the opposing coach can choose which player shoots free throws, and Suns coach Earl Watson chose Braun (a 78 percent free throw shooter in college). Braun sank both, to big cheers from the attending crowd.

You'd think they'd keep him around just to help prepare him for the Stars. Thought it was strange that Watson chose someone that could actually shoot

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/10/07/source-jazzs-dante-exum-has-separated-shoulder-ligament-damage/


He supplied the second unit with length and athleticism from the position through three games, and the Jazz will struggle to duplicate that in his absence.

You mean other than Burks and Mitchell?


There are multiple options for Utah with Exum sidelined. The most obvious is elevating Raul Neto into the backup point guard role, and the Jazz will do this on many nights. Neto was slated to be the third point guard on the roster but has proven in the past that he can be a rotation player in the NBA.

The most obvious is Burks moves into the rotation. Why doesn't Neto play if he's proven and Exum still is not though?


Another option is playing rookie Donovan Mitchell some at the position. This would allow for more rotation minutes from shooting guard Alec Burks,

Mitchell has to play the point to get the 2nd best player on the team in the line-up?

[QUOTE]Moving Mitchell to the point is tricky. He doesn

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/08/utah-jazz-joel-bolomboy-vs-royce-oneale-for-final-roster-spot/

[QUOTE]As the regular season gets nearer, the Utah Jazz are faced with a difficult decision regarding who to keep on the roster: Joel Bolomboy or Royce O

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http://saltcityhoops.com/what-exums-injury-means-to-him-his-future-the-jazz/


Dante Exum was having a terrific preseason.

In fact, few Jazz players were playing as impressively relative to expectations and the development questions facing them.

He's getting seriously overrated! He's looked improved. Defending without his hands. Hit 2 out 3 open 3's. Made some passes. Still missing lay-ups and doesn't have a good feel for the game yet

[QUOTE]Let

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/10/08/health-fitness-aid-joe-johnson-as-he-enters-second-season-with-jazz/


For Johnson, the organization is what drew him.

you sure it wasn't the 22 million?

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[QUOTE]The Jazz had no update on Exum

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865690617/Jazz-head-to-Phoenix-still-smarting-from-injury-to-Dante-Exum.html

[QUOTE]Another beneficiary is third-year guard Raul Neto, who has been among three players hovering on the cut line, along with second-year forward Joel Bolomboy and newcomer Royce O

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/08/109-utah-jazz-phoenix-suns-keys-game/


the Jazz will be without Dante Exum this time around, as they likely will be for much of the season

Why say likely when you have no clue how long? 6 weeks is not much of the season


while his presence will certainly be missed over the long-term

Certainly will miss someone that has only sucked in his career?


Despite what many thought would be the case, thus far the Utah Jazz have shown in preseason that they do indeed have the ability to score.

3 crappy teams oh boy! Kind of like how Rubio was going to shoot well based on his play against crappy European teams

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/08/utah-jazz-preseason-week-two-outlook-predictions/


Exum was looking so solid in preseason play and was obviously primed for a break-out year.

Obviously? Why is everything so definitive with this site?

[QUOTE]one-dimensional teams that don

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/2017/10/09/kragthorpe-dante-exums-injury-is-painful-on-multiple-levels-for-him-and-jazz/


having go through another long rehabilitation process and likely missing a season for the second time in three years. How unfair is that?

Who says it's likely?

[QUOTE]it would be only natural to wonder how Exum

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/9/16447782/2017-nba-preseason-game-preview-utah-jazz-phoenix-suns-dante-exum-devin-booker-ekpe-udoh-quin-snyder


Dante Exum is out, most likely for the season.

Why keep saying things you have no idea about. Could be 6 weeks


Quin Snyder used a mix of Alec Burks and Donovan Mitchell at the backup point guard position. It seems that the Jazz have a decision to make. They can either continue this course or keep Raul Neto and vote another player off the island. Dante was going to be a big part of this season, and the backcourt rotations are going to need some serious adjusting.

I imagine they'll continue with Neto on the bench. Burks should start. Hood, Mitchell, Johnson can run the offense as can Burks and Ingles when they are playing with the bench.

[QUOTE]Can Ricky Rubio find his shot?
The answer up to this point has been no, but we

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/9/16447894/utah-jazz-2017-2018-roster-rank-donovan-mitchell-7th


Donovan Mitchell continues our ranking of the the Utah Jazz roster by coming in 7th. This comes as no surprise, considering how he has played so far in a Jazz uniform.

I'd put him 3rd I think!

[QUOTE]Dennis Lindsey thought enough of Mitchell to move up 11 spots on draft night and get him at 13th overall. But if that night was redone, no way would 13th be high enough to select him again. He was already rated the 3rd biggest steal of the draft by NBA GM

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/09/utah-jazz-three-silver-linings-dante-exum-injury/


Exum figured to have a phenomenal year.

It would have to be. Everyone is incredible all-stars on these pages! :facepalm


Make no mistake about it, in what was bound to be his best year as a pro yet, he will be very much missed.

He's sucked! I would hope it would be his best year. It's too bad but sadly the Jazz got better in the short term with this inury


Going into the 2017-18 season, it was clear that the Utah Jazz were pretty dang deep at the wing positions. Their starters were clearly slated to be newly acquired Ricky Rubio and rising star Rodney Hood

Rising star? He is a scorer. A 6th man if they had a clue. He's no star

[QUOTE]Therein laid a difficult question facing Quin Snyder

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/09/utah-jazz-quin-snyder-pins-joe-johnson-sixth-man-year-candidate/

Burks and Mitchell should be better

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The Utah Jazz announced today that the team has signed free agent guard Torian Graham

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Looks fairly long and can shoot. I imagine he'll be headed to the Stars. They could be interesting this year with the 2 ways and Bradley and Long who looked good and Braun. Bolomboy and O'Neale look NBA ready but could go back and forth I imagine until playing time opens up. Wolters could be spending a lot of time with the Jazz early if Exum is only out 6 weeks too.

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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46105287&nid=304&title=the-jazz-daily-rudy-gobert-resting-monday-jazz-sign-new-player


Graham certainly won't make the regular season roster, but this gives him a nice opportunity to play against NBA-ers for a week while the Jazz decide if they want him on their D-League roster.

I imagine they've already decided they want him on the Stars. They would have chosen someone else otherwise

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/10/09/jazz-shootaround-utah-keeping-options-open-at-point-guard-after-dante-exums-injury/

[QUOTE]there is not yet a second set point guard. Coach Quin Snyder suggested at least initially, that

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865690648/3-teams-that-could-take-Utah-Jazzs-playoff-spot.html


the Jazz have taken a step back — through no fault of their own

It was totally their fault. Upgrade the roster and Hayward stays


If the Nuggets could go back in time, they would probably choose to keep Donovan Mitchell instead of swapping him for Tyler Lydon on draft night. At the time of the draft, the Nuggets looked to pair their star center, Nikola Jokic, with a forward capable of shooting from the perimeter. Enter Lydon.

The problem is, Mitchell could be the steal of a historically deep draft class, and the Nuggets found a way to sign one of the best stretch fours in the NBA, Paul Millsap, during the free agency period. Millsap, an All-Star in Atlanta, will exclusively play the power forward position with the Nuggets, leaving former Jazzman Trey Lyles and Lydon with scraps.

Doubt they would have done it any different. They got plenty of talented young guards even younger with more potential than Mitchell and got two young stretch bigs that they like


Wilson Chandler, Darrell Arthur, Jameer Nelson, Will Barton, Gary Harris, Emmanuel Mudiay and Jamal Murray — all of whom will be in Mike Malone’s rotation — are returning.

Where would Mitchell fit there? Harris is good. Murray looked like a player to me last year. Mudiay still has a lot to prove though


Chandler and Arthur are older. Lyles and Lydon make more sense


Towns is virtually the only center in the NBA capable of doing, well, everything. Towns made almost 37 percent of his 3-point attempts on more than three tries from deep a game. For comparison, Rodney Hood shot the same percentage from three as Towns. Defensively, Towns is one of a handful of big men in the NBA who can switch onto guards without getting burned. He routinely switches screens, defending the likes of Russell Westbrook and John Wall.

His D has sucked!


While both Davis and Cousins are All-Stars and arguably the best at their respective positions, neither have skill-sets that complement each other Jokic and Millsap, for instance, can play together because they don’t occupy the same space. When Jokic is down on the block, Millsap can play outside, giving him the room he needs to operate. Davis and Cousins have expanded their range, but defenses will welcome perimeter shots from both.

There's no argument until they show they can make their teams better. Cousins is a loser and Davis is soft. They actually do compliment each other quite well on paper. Cousins shot 36% from 3! Davis wasn't so good but potentially he can shoot it. Problem is that he is soft and wants to stay on the perimeter. Jazz should be higher than these guys


the lack of shooting hindered the team’s spacing, making it a simple puzzle for other teams to solve.

Yet the Jazz are better than last year! :rolleyes:


What if Rondo, who played with Cousins in Sacramento, regains his chemistry with the center and, with that, his value?

That great chemistry that led to another lottery?


The Los Angeles Clippers, Memphis Grizzlies, Portland Trail Blazers and Jazz all made the postseason last year, but could end up losing their spots to the Denver Nuggets, New Orleans Pelicans or Minnesota Timberwolves. The Jazz will be one of the few clinging onto their spot, hoping one of the rising teams doesn’t snatch it.

Jazz will officially be looking to next season by January

Looks like this clown is now an official wrier not an intern!

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/09/utah-jazz-asu-sun-devil-torian-graham/

[QUOTE] it appeared as though the Utah Jazz had begun paring down their roster in preparation for regular season play. However, that process of elimination took an unexpected turn on Monday.

According to an announcement from the Jazz, rookie guard Torian Graham has been signed by the team. With the move, Utah

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Udoh started

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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46110898&nid=304&title=the-triple-team-jazz-score-47-of-120-points-off-phoenix-turnovers-in-big-win


I'm looking forward to the Jazz playing a good team

Me too! See all these all-stars on the Jazz go to work :lol


It almost seemed as if Rubio was less worried about getting the ball to Gobert, and more focused on making the right play, even if that was consistently shooting when the defense sagged off of him.

That's what will happen all year long. He won't be the only one they sag off of though. It will be ugly!


Alec Burks is having an unusually good shooting preseason

He's doing it all. Start him already! The love of Hood needs to cease


His feel as a point guard is still developing, for sure.

yet better than Dante's


I think he's shown enough promise that he'll get the lead backup point guard minutes while Exum is out

It will be by committee as Snyder said and as it was before Rubio came

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/10/10/without-rudy-gobert-jazz-have-no-problem-whipping-suns-120-102/

[QUOTE]Apparently the Jazz don

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/10/10/repeat-with-suns-in-schedule-doesnt-mean-a-repeat-in-planning-for-jazz/


A team spokesman said that Graham would not join the Jazz on their preseason road trip.

Stars

[QUOTE]The game wasn

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http://www.12up.com/posts/5639116-6-most-underrated-nba-teams-heading-into-this-season


On offense they're loaded with young talent, with emerging players like Rodney Hood, and underrated rookies Donavon Mitchell and Tony Bradley.

loaded? Bradley will be with the Stars

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2017/10/09/dante-exums-latest-injury-lands-him-back-where-he-started-enigmatic-and-unproven/?utm_term=.31c6a57094b4


He was 18 when he was drafted fifth overall by the Utah Jazz and had never played at a higher level than Australian high school ball.

He'd played internationally for their junior team I believe. That is where he is impressed enough to move up in the draft

[QUOTE]But the problem with trying to evaluate Exum is that he hasn

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https://www.lockedonjazz.net/emptying-the-noggin-two-things-jazz-will-need-to-do-all-season/

[QUOTE]Raul Neto played the majority of the back up point guard moments. Quin Snyder said on the pre-game show he doesn

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/10/16451188/downbeat-utah-jazz-thabo-sefolosha-joe-ingles-rudy-gobert

[QUOTE]Just a few nights ago the Jazz secured 19 offensive rebounds against the Phoenix Suns. Some of that may have just been the bounce of the ball that night, but I

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https://sports.yahoo.com/bdls-2017-18-season-previews-utah-jazz-filling-gordon-haywards-void-172611382.html

[QUOTE]Lindsey made a few moves, swapping a protected 2018 first-round pick for Rubio and trading three picks between Nos. 24 and 42 this year for the right to steal Mitchell in the late lottery and select Rudy Gobert

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/10/16451546/2017-nba-preseason-utah-jazz-phoenix-suns-recap-ricky-rubio-tyson-chandler-alec-burks

[QUOTE]AB is on fire!
He isn

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/9/16451690/utah-jazz-phoenix-suns-video-ricky-rubio-devin-booker-donovan-mitchell-josh-jackson


Donovan Mitchell is making a case he might already be better than Devin Booker.

Don't know about that but he's certainly better than anyone not named Gobert and Burks on the Jazz right now

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[QUOTE]Gina Mizell: Mike Malone on ongoing #Nuggets PF battle between Faried and Lyles:

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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46118396&nid=304&title=the-jazz-daily-favors-talks-bolomboys-preseason-odds-on-jazz-winning-awards


It's worth noting Bolomboy showed a nice dribble-drive layup from the perimeter, but overall the fouls showed his youth and why he hadn't earned NBA rotation time to this point in his career.

Hadn't earned it because they had vets ahead of him and wasn't given much of a shot. I think he should probably be the first true big after Gobert and Favors ahead of Udoh and Jerebko. He's looked good


I'd expect Bolomboy and O'Neale to get significant time on national TV tonight.

You were wrong. I'd say he's made the team O'Neale is out sadly because he looks like he can play too. If Exum is out 6 months I'd cut him. Tell him you still want him and will pay him next year and hope for the best.

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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46122137&nid=304&title=the-triple-team-rudy-gobert-and-donovan-mitchell-superb-in-jazz-win-over-lakers

[QUOTE]I thought it was telling how head coach Quin Snyder used his substitution pattern to allow Mitchell to be in the game late. Mitchell was inserted into the game with 3:36 left in the third quarter, and probably isn't ready to play nearly 16 consecutive NBA minutes yet, so Snyder subbed Mitchell out for just two minutes, 34 seconds in the middle of the fourth quarter

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/10/11/mitchell-shines-as-jazz-beat-lakers-to-finish-preseason-play-unbeaten/


As the Jazz hoped to get out of the preseason healthy, there were a few minor concerns: Raul Neto missed his third game with quad soreness, sitting out the second game of the back-to-back. Hood left the game after four minutes, which the team attributed to neck soreness.

I imagine they are fine. Be interesting to see how the rotation looks with everyone but Exum. I don't think they need Udoh if Rudy and Favors are available. O'Neale looks good though. Looks like he might get cut?


Rubio continued his run as a scorer, striking efficiently in the first half and finishing with 22 points on 6 of 18 shooting.

efficient?

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https://www.lockedonjazz.net/emptying-the-noggin-donovan-mitchell-is-special-in-close-game-finish-for-utah-jazz/

[QUOTE]The Jazz played a fairly normal rotation on the back end of a back to back for their final regular season game. Rudy Gobert played 33 minutes and finished with 29 points. He only had 30 or more once all of last season. The Jazz offense is predicated on the pick and roll with Gobert putting pressure on the rim. For all the talk about Hood and others using all of Hayward

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/10/utah-jazz-regular-season-team-award-predictions/


Sixth Man: Joe Johnson

Mitchcell needs to start. Be 6th man by committee with Burks, Hood and Johnson.


Most Improved Player: Derrick Favors

Has looked like Bolomboy

Game of the Year: Utah @ Portland (April 11, 2018)

[QUOTE]Many will peg Gordon Hayward

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[QUOTE]Marc Berman: Knicks signed former Jazz PG Trey Burke but moreso for G League team. Source says Knicks also interested in John Jenkins.

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865690837/Jazz-Rubio-hope-he-can-be-a-more-consistent-outside-shooter.html

[QUOTE]Snyder says he wants Rubio to take open shots, which he may get a lot if he keeps missing because opposing teams won

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/11/16457542/nba-preseason-utah-jazz-los-angeles-lakers-rudy-gobert-ricky-rubio-donovan-mitchell


Joe Ingles needs to take some shots. With so many guys out, we need him to take more than 3 shots a game.

The shots aren't going to be there. He will be covered and his crappy shooting teammates will be left open

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/11/utah-jazz-rudy-gobert-bargain/

[QUOTE]Last October, the Utah Jazz and Rudy Gobert agreed to a $100 million contract extension. The deal suddenly ranks among the league

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/11/utah-jazz-los-angeles-lakers-reactions-went-rightwrong/

[QUOTE]Utah

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[QUOTE]Andy Larsen: Jazz announced they

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865690910/Less-than-three-days-after-signing-him-Utah-Jazz-waive-Torian-Graham.html


NBA teams can designate up to four affiliate players

Him and Long

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2737293-nba-position-power-rankings-top-10-centers-before-2017-18-season-tips-off


1. DeMarcus Cousins, New Orleans Pelicans

:facepalm

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https://www.sbnation.com/a/nba-preview-2017/utah-jazz


9.2
OUT OF 10

I TRUST IN MANAGEMENT AND THE COACHING STAFF

8.1
OUT OF 10

I ENJOY ROOTING FOR THESE PLAYERS AND THIS FRANCHISE

9.6
OUT OF 10

I AM OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE DIRECTION OF THE TEAM

After almost 40 years of watching this franchise I still don't trust management especially after this summer when they vowed things would finally be different and they weren't! So it's hard to be very optimistic about them. The coaching staff impressed me against the Clipps and I enjoy some of the players

[QUOTE]We

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/12/16458922/utah-jazz-2017-2018-nba-season-rudy-gobert-ricky-rubio-rodney-hood-derrick-favors-alec-burks


Can he contribute more offensively and prove the haters wrong? Will he win Defensive Player of the Year?

doubt it

[QUOTE] Rodney will be asked to do a lot more this year. He has had spurts of fantastic play, but has yet to put it all together. Health and consistency will be the key for the young guard this year. He

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/12/16458772/utah-jazz-2017-2018-roster-rank-6th-joe-johnson

[QUOTE]Quin Snyder recently said he thinks Joe Cool could be the 6th man of the year this year. I don

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/12/16463286/the-downbeat-donovan-mitchell-utah-jazz-rookie

[QUOTE]Some may say he is getting too much hype. But he is also a rookie for the Utah Jazz, so just embrace the attention and let

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http://www.nba.com/article/2017/10/11/one-team-one-stat-slow-jazz?collection=news#/


it's interesting that the other team that plays at a high altitude -- the Denver Nuggets -- has played at an above-average pace in 37 of the last 40 seasons, while the Jazz have played at a below-average pace in 25 of the last 29.

a great reason to run and use your depth right there


In the regular season, the Jazz were a plus-11.7 points per 100 possessions in 674 minutes with Joe Johnson at power forward and Gobert at center, compared to plus-1.4

good thing he's at the 4 now


Over the last five seasons, Derrick Favors has shot 34.5 percent from mid-range, the second worst mark (ahead of only that of Josh Smith) among 117 players who have attempted at least 750 mid-range shots over that time.

But I thought he's going to be hitting 3's now? :lol

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https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/247686/Season-Questions-Can-The-Clippers-And-Jazz-Survive-The-Loss-Of-Their-Star-Players

[QUOTE]Only the point guard position, where rookie Donovan Mitchell

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Kyle Goon: Rodney Hood practiced today though his neck is still a bit stiff, Quin Snyder said. Raul Neto did not practice (hamstring).

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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46139516&nid=304&title=the-jazz-daily-jazz-rookies-adapt-to-the-nba-deron-williams-told-jazz-he-wouldnt-re-sign


Williams was talking about his reception in Utah after being traded from the Jazz in 2011. During the discussion, though, he defended the Jazz trading him, saying "I also may have gave them a little reason (to trade me). I might have said I wasn't going to re-sign."

That's always been somewhat speculated: how sure were the Jazz that Williams wasn't going to stay with the Jazz when he became a free agent in 2012? Apparently, they "may have" had word from the man himself.

Interesting. They still took the 2nd offer on the table from the only team that knew he was available instead of looking for the best offer. :facepalm


they're still benefiting from the original deal: Derrick Favors is still the starting power forward for the Jazz, and while they didn't keep Enes Kanter (who was selected with one of the picks they received in the deal), the pick they received from Oklahoma City in the Kanter deal was used to acquire Ricky Rubio this summer.

I guess. Let's see what they get for Favors and Rubio

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/10/12/what-weve-learned-and-havent-about-the-jazz-during-the-preseason/

[QUOTE]Point guard Ricky Rubio

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/10/12/jazz-focus-on-themselves-during-long-break-before-season-opener/

[QUOTE]There are things the Jazz would like to clean up between now and Wednesday. First, they want a resolution to Dante Exum

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865690948/Jazz-notes-Can-Donovan-Mitchell-play-point-guard-whats-happening-during-break-before-season.html

[QUOTE]Bradley isn

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/12/utah-jazz-injury-rodney-hood-practice/


the Utah Jazz managed an incredible feat. Specifically, the team somehow won 51 games, a division title and a first-round playoff series despite being the most banged-up squad in the Association.

they did it by underachieveing


Given multiple key departures over the summer, the Jazz face a slimmer margin of error this season. Which makes the recent injuries to Rodney Hood, Raul Neto and Dante Exum extra concerning.

A better team without Exum and I doubt Hood and Neto are hurt too seriously


those numbers are encouraging for a player the team is counting on to be its go-to guy.

doubt they're counting on it

[QUOTE]In his absence, a myriad of players assumed ball-handling duties behind starting point-man Ricky Rubio. While that

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/12/utah-jazz-notes-exum-injury-still-unclear-super-rudy-block/

[QUOTE]the amount of time that Dante Exum will miss due to the purportedly severe left shoulder injury he suffered has yet to be announced. My memory is far from perfect, but I don

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https://hoopshabit.com/2017/10/12/utah-jazz-5-goals-for-rodney-hood-in-2017-18/


Can Hood find a way to lead the Jazz back to national prominence?

:rolleyes:


it is counting on its young star

star?


With Hood now playing alongside Ricky Rubio, one can only help but wonder whether or not he has a legitimate chance to shoot 40 percent from beyond the arc.

Wouldn't count on it. If he was coming off the bench like he should be maybe


The Jazz finished tied with the Washington Wizards for eighth in 3-point field goal percentage this past year, and should they seek to do so again with Hayward and George Hill gone, then it will likely fall upon shooters such as Joe Johnson and Hood to put together career-best shooting clips from downtown for the second straight season.

Be lucky if they are only 8th from the bottom.

[QUOTE]

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https://fansided.com/2017/10/12/western-conference-better-except-clippers/


Even the Jazz, who lost Gordon Hayward and George Hill, can talk themselves into believing that a leap from Rudy Gobert, a Donovan Mitchell breakout and playing Moneyball might lead them to not missing a beat.

:facepalm

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https://hoopshabit.com/2017/10/11/utah-jazz-rodney-hood-keeping-tabs-gary-harris-season/

[QUOTE]Rodney Hood is up for an extension with the Utah Jazz, but it

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http://saltcityhoops.com/schedule-spotlight-october-a-season-determining-start/


In such an intense and thickly contested race, a bad 14 days to start the season could put the Jazz behind the pack in a race where it looks especially difficult to make up ground.

They have to win a lot in October/November because December will kill them! If they come in to January anywhere near .500 overall they will have done well.


Not only did Burks take fewer kamikaze attempts at the rim, but his play was deliberate and intentional; not slow but under control, speed guided by firm decision making. This produced results.

The kamikaze attempts at the rim used to produce results too. They've neutered him

[QUOTE]Hood scorched the net, shooting 63 percent from the field and 69 percent from three! That shooting isn

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/13/16468128/nba-tipoff-2017-utah-jazz-derrick-favors-donovan-mitchell-joe-johnson-rudy-gobert

Gold looks better than green I guess :eek:

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/13/utah-jazz-nigel-williams-goss-eurocup-debut/

good to see he's playing good. Forgot about him already!

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Andy Larsen: Injury update: Raul Neto is also not practicing today.

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[QUOTE]Royce Young: With tomorrow the non-guaranteed cut deadline, likely outcome is both Christon and Canaan are waived and OKC keeps the 15th spot open.

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[QUOTE]Tony Jones: Per source, the final Jazz roster spot will come down to Joel Bolomboy or Royce O

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Jonathan Feigen: Rockets waive Isaiah Taylor, Tim Quarterman, George de Paula, Chris Johnson. Troy Williams, Nanu Onuaku, as expected, make roster.

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[QUOTE]It

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6'6" pf?

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So That will be 3 affiliate players for the Stars I think. Might be another one coming?

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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46153428&nid=304&title=the-jazz-daily-ricky-rubios-defense-impressing-cuts-coming-saturday


Can Rubio make the Jazz's defense even better this season?

He might make it worse with all his bricks


But that means the Jazz have to make a tough decision: Will they waive Joel Bolomboy or Royce O'Neale? Both have guaranteed contracts for this upcoming season, so the Jazz will have to eat money no matter what they do.

Bolomboy's is partial though I guess it could possibly be for more money still?

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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46150493&nid=304&title=previewing-the-tougher-than-ever-nba-western-conference


Quin Snyder's system in the half court is difficult enough to defend for all 24 seconds that teams will fall asleep and allow for some open looks,

They're going to have open looks all night. Teams will leave several guys open and dare them to hurt them


The defense, though, will be elite. Last year, the Jazz were third on that end of the floor, and they should be better this year.

Except for the crappy offense will make it tougher for the D. That was the big thing we heard all last year was being connected at both ends. Good luck with that!


All in all, it'll be enough to get them 45 wins and into the playoffs.

I expect this crap from the other local scribes. I thought you were smarter though :facepalm

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865691062/Rodney-Hood-jazzed-for-bigger-offensive-role.html

[QUOTE]Gordon Hayward

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/13/utah-jazz-final-roster-spot-bolomboy-oneale/

[QUOTE]the final decision between Bolomboy and O

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865691067/Jazz-notes-Rudy-Gobert-not-so-super-on-his-video-game.html

[QUOTE] Jazz guard Rodney Hood said he

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865691064/A-month-by-month-breakdown-of-the-Utah-Jazzs-2017-2018-schedule.html


October: 7 games (4 home, 3 away)

3-4. 3 crappy teams and 4 playoff teams


November: 15 games (9 home, 6 away)

5-10. Haven't even hit the brutal December stretch yet and they could be out of it


December: 15 games (6 home, 9 away)

2-13. Lottery bound. And the trades begin!


January: 13 games (5 home, 8 away)

6-7


February: 11 games (6 home, 5 away)

4-7


March: 15 games (8 home, 7 away)

9-6


April: 6 games (3 home, 3 away)

2-4

31-51. top 10 pick

Now I imagine they'll lose some games I picked as wins and win some that I picked as losses but how can anyone think this is a playoff team?

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http://saltcityhoops.com/cuts-extensions-make-a-busy-weekend-for-jazz-decision-makers/

[QUOTE]Both Bolomboy and O

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/14/16471128/utah-jazz-2017-2018-roster-rank-joe-ingles-5th

[QUOTE]I think SLC fans may be rating both Ingles and Hood too highly going into the season.
Any of Burks, Mitchell or Sefolosha may end up being more important to this particular Jazz team than Hood and Ingles

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The Utah Jazz announced today that the team has waived guard Nazareth Mitrou-Long.

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Utah Jazz guard Dante Exum is weighing rehabilitation options on his separated left shoulder that could preclude him undergoing season-ending surgery, league sources told ESPN. The Jazz and Exum have been exploring multiple medical opinions on an injured shoulder that suffered ligament damage in a preseason game collision on Oct. 6.

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Tony Jones: The official update on Dante Exum: There

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/10/14/to-make-it-back-to-playoffs-jazz-must-put-together-a-new-puzzle/


To replace Gordon Hayward, they needed wing depth, long-armed defenders.

needed shooters too


By the time Hayward made the decision to leave the Jazz for the Boston Celtics, that market looked more like a scrap heap.

Please tell me who they were going to get if they knew from day 1? Every name we heard was still available except Gallinari and if they'd really wanted him they could have still offered him more than the Clippers and changed his mind. They didn't. They went the cheap route and are building for next season or the one after. Please stop making excuses!


The result is a deep roster, an athletic roster, and a roster full of defenders on the perimeter and in the paint.

Not sure I would call them athletic. Compared to the average Jazz team maybe. Compared to the average NBA probably not

[QUOTE]Will this be enough to make the playoffs in the rugged Western Conference? That

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865691087/Donovan-Mitchell-and-the-reality-of-rookies.html


Griffith was good, but he was no All-Star. So my advice is to give Mitchell some space by not getting so excited.

He was on his way before he held out and they benched him behind a stiff! :rant

[QUOTE]Mitchell is explosive and a rare defensive prospect. But he

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/14/16476364/2017-nba-preseason-injury-report-dante-exum-shoulder-surgery-still-exploring-options-for-shoulder

[QUOTE] It would seem to be in the Jazz

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[QUOTE]Michael Scotto: Los Angeles Clippers are converting guard C.J. Williams to a two-way contract, a league source told @BBallInsiders.

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https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46163200&nid=304&title=the-jazz-daily-exum-comes-to-practice-jazz-make-roster-cuts


By the way, while we're talking about injured point guards, Raul Neto again did not practice on Saturday because of quadriceps tightness.

get well soon!


The Stars also traded the rights to Tyrone Wallace to the Agua Caliente Clippers for the returning player rights to Aaron Craft and a 2018 second round draft pick.

Craft is pretty good if he plays for them


I thought one think Ingles said stood out Saturday. "I think our depth this year is really good. Probably the best we've had in the last three years since I've been here."

That's saying a lot! After all, at the beginning of the season, the Jazz were rated as having the No. 1 bench in the NBA last year. While it didn't turn out quite as good as that during the season itself, a lot of the blame for that goes to injuries.

But most of it goes to them not being deep


And it was also interesting how Ingles said the Jazz may want to use their bench. "We've got the potential to play all of our guys at different points," Ingles said. "The way we want to play and get up and down the floor, we can sub and get guys in and out and play at a pretty high level for most of the game."

What we could be seeing is a trend towards using a European-style substitution pattern, trying to get guys at 100 percent during their whole stretch on the floor. Snyder, after all, studied Euroleague substitution patterns during his time in Russia, according to this Vice article.

"Everyone who comes in the game has to defend at a high level with intensity, running when they need to run, screening when they need to screen," Snyder said. "Even if it's not heavy minutes, that's how you gain an advantage."

Be nice. Only a few guys should play heavy minutes. Let the others play hard when they are in there


Now, probably the most likely outcome is that the Jazz end up using a pretty standard American substitution pattern, but one in which they're not actively trying to pull bench players as quickly as possible for their starter replacements. Snyder's done a good job of avoiding full-scale hockey-style subs, and that's still going to be the case here.

Doesn't have much choice since Favors has to come out early. Hood should be on the bench anyway. Mitchell should start

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/14/utah-jazz-projected-playoff-team-per-fivethirtyeight/

[QUOTE]In other words, believe the hype

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Maybe they won't make the last cut until Monday? It should have already been done today. They pay them either way so it shouldn't matter. Maybe they are hoping to know Exum's situation before they do? Or want to see them in a couple of more practices?

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/10/14/monson-lets-not-get-crazy-but-when-it-comes-to-the-jazz-hope-really-does-float/

[QUOTE]The Jazz this season will

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http://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2017/10/15/kragthorpe-jazz-may-win-fewer-games-but-they-could-be-more-fun/


Anyone expecting the Jazz to establish anything close to a 51-win pace as this season unfolds is sure to be disappointed.

and yet some think they will be better

[QUOTE]But what if you erase 2016-17, and think of the Jazz

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/14/16475750/2017-nba-preseason-5-utah-jazz-trends-to-watch-for-donovan-mitchell-rudy-gobert-derrick-favors


Cut to this preseason and the Utah Jazz boasted an offensive rating of 110.0, an improvement of 10.9 points per 100 possessions. Now the Utah Jazz had a healthy squad and played an NBL team, a team from Euroleague, the Phoenix Suns, and Los Angeles Lakers, not exactly the toughest of competition, but this was supposed to be an anemic offense. If there would be teams that could take advantage of a supposedly league worst offense it would be those bottom feeders and international teams. Instead Utah feasted and looked like a far superior team.

they didn't look far superior to the lowly Lakers though


Quin Snyder was part of the Atlanta Hawks coaching staff that turned a bunch of role players into a highly efficient offensive machine due to their depth and discipline. Looking back on that team they had high quality role players and undervalued players who were stars but generally overlooked. Could this Utah team be the rebirth of that anomaly?

Hawks had shooters and better overall talent


But will the Jazz be a bottom 10 offense in the league? Most likely not.

why is it not likely? Seems very likely to me

[QUOTE]The Utah Jazz

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https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/10/14/16475750/2017-nba-preseason-5-utah-jazz-trends-to-watch-for-donovan-mitchell-rudy-gobert-derrick-favors

Mitchell needs to start and be featured with Rudy
What do you expect out of Mitchell this year? I think he'll be good defensively, but subpar offensively until February when he starts to figure it out. I would like it if he starts, but the Jazz are going to play Hood/Ingles more than they should. If one gets injured then he'll get his shot, with Hood that seems probable

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He looks good enough to build around him and Rudy now. Keep whoever fits and get rid of the rest.

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/15/utah-jazz-raul-neto-rotation-player/


Dante Exum was injured in his third preseason game against the Phoenix Suns and at this stage, a return to the court in the 2017-18 NBA season looks unlikely.

why does it seem unlikely when no surgery means 6-12 weels?

[QUOTE]Neto almost lost his spot in the rotation entirely last year as he was scrapping for backup minutes with Exum and Shelvin Mack. But now he finds himself at the forefront of the second unit as one of two healthy point guards on Utah

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/15/utah-jazz-dante-exum-sighting-a-sign-of-good-news-after-injury/


I would think that if surgery were necessary, they would have done it immediately to expedite the whole process, so again, this may be a good sign. Or we could just be reading into things.

youre' just reading into things. Even if they decide on surgery they may have to wait for welling to go down. They aren't going to rush something that is 6 months off anyway

[QUOTE]at the very least this makes some of the minutes distribution planning a little bit easier for Snyder and guarantees a little more playing time for Donovan Mitchell. I

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https://thejnotes.com/2017/10/15/utah-jazz-questions-answered-preseason/


Ideally, Rodney Hood is able to step up and fill that roll.

Why is that ideal?


can we really count on a rookie in Donovan Mitchell to be a go-to scorer?

not sure you can count on anyone but Mitchell is one of 6 guys that should be doing most of the scoring


I think we can safely say the Jazz are going to be just fine on offense this season.

we can?


it also became clear that the Jazz are still going to be able to be effective in the half court.

clear based on pre-season games against crappy teams?

[QUOTE]Per 36 minutes, Gobert averaged 23.1 points on 73.5 percent shooting, 13.5 rebounds and 2.5 blocks. As crazy as it sounds, those numbers aren