'Murrica's Pulling Out of Syria

[SomeBlackDude]

long d*ck style.

the generals are not happy.

[QUOTE]Trump Considering Full Withdrawal of U.S. Troops From Syria

President Trump is considering pulling 2,000 United States ground troops out of Syria in a move that would seek to describe the four-year American-led war against the Islamic State as largely won, officials said Wednesday.

[Objectivity]

What country will they fk up next tho

[Akrazotile]

Rebuilding America's Defenses recommended establishing four core missions for US military forces: the defense of the "American homeland," the fighting and winning of "multiple, simultaneous major theatre wars," the performance of "'constabular' duties associated with shaping the security environment" in key regions, and the transformation of US forces "to exploit the 'revolution in military affairs.'" Its specific recommendations included the maintenance of US nuclear superiority, an increase of the active personnel strength of the military from 1.4 to 1.6 million people, the redeployment of US forces to Southeast Europe and Asia, and the "selective" modernization of US forces. The report advocated the cancellation of "roadblock" programs such as the Joint Strike Fighter (which it argued would absorb "exorbitant" amounts of Pentagon funding while providing limited gains), but favored the development of "global missile defenses," and the control of "space and cyberspace," including the creation of a new military service with the mission of "space control." To help achieve these aims, Rebuilding America's Defenses advocated a gradual increase in military and defense spending "to a minimum level of 3.5 to 3.8 percent of gross domestic product, adding $15 billion to $20 billion to total defense spending annually.[45]

OP supporting neocon-orchestrated theater wars literally as an excuse to criticize DJT.

This is left wing America in a nutshell.

[SomeBlackDude]

What country will they fk up next tho

yemen.

possibly venezuela too (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/04/trump-suggested-invading-venezuela-report)?

speaking of-

Russian nuclear-capable bomber aircraft fly to Venezuela, angering U.S. (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-russia-airforce/russian-nuclear-capable-bomber-aircraft-fly-to-venezuela-angering-u-s-idUSKBN1OA23L)



4-d master. :bowdown:

[Rolando]

What country will they fk up next tho

Iran. They'll be ramping up tensions over the next year. By the time Trump is up for re-election it will be a full blown war. This will make Israel and Saudi Arabia very happy and will help Trump win a second term.

[HarryBergeron]

kurds did all the dirty work to push isis back and we're abandoning them cause we're shook by erdogan]

100% false. The kurds have spent more time trying to fight the SAA than ISIL. Syria was secured from the Israel and US backed terrorists by the SAA and the Russian airforce.

Why do you neocons (thats what you are now Don) have such a hard on for useless fgt kurds? Is it because you are all trotskyites?

[Objectivity]

Iran. They'll be ramping up tensions over the next year. By the time Trump is up for re-election it will be a full blown war. This will make Israel and Saudi Arabia very happy and will help Trump win a second term.
Would Russia stand by?

[HarryBergeron]

Would Russia stand by?
Yes. There wont be a hot war in Iran any time soon. Maybe if they can drum up a spring style event, but that didnt work out the last time it was tried

[PickernRoller]

I'm coming home
I'm coming home
Tell the world I'm coming home
Let the rain wash away all the pain of yesterday
I know my kingdom awaits and they've forgiven my mistakes
I'm coming home, I'm coming home
Tell the world that I'm coming

I'm back where I belong,
Yeah I never felt so strong
(I'm back baby)
I feel like there's nothing that I can't try
And if you with me put your hands high
(Put your hands high)

If you ever lost a light before,
This ones for you
And you, the dreams are for you
I hear "The Tears of a Clown"
I hate that song
I always feel like they talking to me when it comes on
Another day another Dawn
Another Keisha, nice to meet ya, get the math I'm gone
What am I 'posed to do when the club lights come on
It's easy to be Puff, but its harder to be Sean
What if the twins ask me why I ain't marry their mom (why, damn!)
How do I respond?

What if my son stares with a face like my own
And says he wants to be like me when he's grown
Shit! But I ain't finished growing
Another night the inevitable prolongs
Another day another dawn
Just tell Keisha and Taneisha I'll be back in the morn'
Another lie that I carry on
I need to get back to the place I belong

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[Ben Simmons 25]

OP supporting neocon-orchestrated theater wars literally as an excuse to criticize DJT.

This is left wing America in a nutshell.

:oldlol:

[NumberSix]

So obviously Syria will now immediately go out and do a chemical weapons attack.

[SomeBlackDude]

the deep state is not loving this.

i know, you looked shocked.

https://i.postimg.cc/s2bjWkq5/Duys7-QDWw-AYyf54.jpg

[QUOTE]Marco Rubio
‏@marcorubio

[rufuspaul]

the deep state is not loving this.

i know, you looked shocked.

https://i.postimg.cc/s2bjWkq5/Duys7-QDWw-AYyf54.jpg









#missionaccomplished :rockon:


Obama said not to worry about ISIS. They're the JV team. He also drew a line in the sand and then did nothing when Assad crossed it. #winning

[NumberSix]

Obama said not to worry about ISIS. They're the JV team. He also drew a line in the sand and then did nothing when Assad crossed it. #winning
To be fair though, what was he gonna do? Start a full blown war in Syria? Do to Syria what he did to Libya?

[Akrazotile]

the deep state is not loving this.

i know, you looked shocked.

https://i.postimg.cc/s2bjWkq5/Duys7-QDWw-AYyf54.jpg


#missionaccomplished :rockon:


Reminds me of this old pic

https://www.artofmarkbryan.com/wp-content/gallery/politics/mad-tea-party-detail-1.jpg



You're quoting a bunch of people who've worked their whole lives to sit at that table.

[NumberSix]

Reminds me of this old pic

https://www.artofmarkbryan.com/wp-content/gallery/politics/mad-tea-party-detail-1.jpg



You're quoting a bunch of people who've worked their whole lives to sit at that table.
Wow. That Condoleezza Rice drawing is pretty racist. It ok though, the artist is probably a Democrat so it doesn’t count.

[SomeBlackDude]

Obama said not to worry about ISIS. They're the JV team. He also drew a line in the sand and then did nothing when Assad crossed it. #winning

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[Rolando]

Would Russia stand by?

Russia will try to make gains in other areas while we are distracted and invested. That's what seems to be the strategy.

[NumberSix]

Russia will try to make gains in other areas while we are distracted and invested. That's what seems to be the strategy.
The simple thing that dumb people don’t want to acknowledge is that the Middle East is either going to be dominated by the Israel+Sunni side, which is aligned with America or the Iran/Shi’a side which is aligned with countries like Russia.

Are countries like Saudi Arabia and Egypt good on human rights? No. Do they share our values? No. But it is what it is. The options are what they are.

[HarryBergeron]

Wow. That Condoleezza Rice drawing is pretty racist. It ok though, the artist is probably a Democrat so it doesn’t count.
Durr da dems are the real rayciss'!



Obama said not to worry about ISIS. They're the JV team. He also drew a line in the sand and then did nothing when Assad crossed it. #winning
Hurr durr Assad used sarin to gas his own people. Fink of da childrun adurrr....


Fvcking recucklicans.

[NumberSix]

Durr da dems are the real rayciss'!
You

[HarryBergeron]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]You

[Duderonomy]

yemen.

possibly venezuela too (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/04/trump-suggested-invading-venezuela-report)?

speaking of-

Russian nuclear-capable bomber aircraft fly to Venezuela, angering U.S. (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-russia-airforce/russian-nuclear-capable-bomber-aircraft-fly-to-venezuela-angering-u-s-idUSKBN1OA23L)



4-d master. :bowdown:
Lil' Don didn't you agree to leave after Trump won?

Now you're back posting the same crap from before.

If you don't have any honor, fine but atleast learn a new trick in the past 2 1/2 years.

[rufuspaul]

Hurr durr Assad used sarin to gas his own people. Fink of da childrun adurrr....




And Obama did absolutely nothing about it.


Shit, why am I responding to a troll?

[Hawker]

I fully welcome this move. He will get a fair amount of votes in 2020 if he pulls this off - lots of Americans tired of our failing foreign policy.

[Rolando]

And Obama did absolutely nothing about it.


Shit, why am I responding to a troll?

That's one of the biggest mistakes Obama made.

[HarryBergeron]

And Obama did absolutely nothing about it.


Shit, why am I responding to a troll?
If you actually believe Assad "gassed his own people" you are a legitimate retard who should have been exposed on a hillside as an infant

[bladefd]

I fully welcome this move. He will get a fair amount of votes in 2020 if he pulls this off - lots of Americans tired of our failing foreign policy.

What is exactly Trump's foreign policy? Do you or anyone here have a beat on his foreign policy?? It's all over the place..

[Objectivity]

And Obama did absolutely nothing about it.


Shit, why am I responding to a troll?

Except Assad didn't use chemical weapons and those reports are blatant propaganda to incite public opinion toward war with the legitimate Syrian government?

[Objectivity]

If you actually believe Assad "gassed his own people" you are a legitimate retard who should have been exposed on a hillside as an infant
B-B-BUT it said so on cnn&fox news :lol :roll:

[Objectivity]

If you actually believe Assad "gassed his own people" you are a legitimate retard who should have been exposed on a hillside as an infant

That sheep is still waiting for the revelations on Iraq's WMD :lol

[NumberSix]

Im sure all those black church ladies who vote 97% dem and "natural conservatives" hopping the border who vote 70% dem will change their voting patterns once you shpw them this cartoon and teach them about Lincoln and Robert Byrd.



Wake up dude.
Is this cartoonist the head of the DNC or something? Did I miss that?

[andgar923]

Is anyone actually defending this??

This is Trump taking Putin

[fiddy]

Trump bending over for Erdogan :no:

Interesting to see if Turkey will steamroll the Kurds, their op is supposed to start any time now.

[NumberSix]

[QUOTE=andgar923]Is anyone actually defending this??

This is Trump taking Putin

[n00bie]

Can we just nuke the middle east and then turn it into a huge Disney park?

[Objectivity]

Can we just nuke the middle east and then turn it into a huge Disney park?

Just nuke mecca and their countries will collapse

[HarryBergeron]

Nuke Juresalem,Mecca, Medina, problem solved

[HarryBergeron]

What is exactly Trump's foreign policy? Do you or anyone here have a beat on his foreign policy?? It's all over the place..
Do what Tel Aviv says, same as the last 7 presidents

[Hawker]

[QUOTE=andgar923]Is anyone actually defending this??

This is Trump taking Putin

[SomeBlackDude]

So predictable like the shill that you are.

rusher is loving it, predictably.


Russia in USA 🇷🇺
‏@RusEmbUSA


The #US🇺🇸 decision to pull its troops from #Syria🇸🇾 creates good prospects for a political solution in that Arab country - #Zakharova

👉http://tass.com/world/1036875

everyone else, not so much. doesn't seem like the emperor told anyone before going on twtitter.


ABC News Politics
‏@ABCPolitics

LATEST: Sen. Bob Corker, chairman of Foreign Relations Committee, was at the White House this afternoon for a meeting with President Trump when his meeting was abruptly canceled amid growing questions over the administration's decision to pull out of Syria

...

Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Bob Corker: "I've never seen a decision like this since I've been here...It's hard to imagine any president would wake up and make this kind of decision with this little communication, with this little preparation."


paul mcleary
‏@paulmcleary

SYRIA UPDATE: The Pentagon doesn't have answers on troop drawdown, Centcom doesn't have answers, and according to White House call just now, they don't have answers. That's some interagency coordination, folks.

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[andgar923]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]What

[dude77]

Am I the president?

So who cares.

As usual you try to deflect to protect the traitor.


we've been 'betraying' our troops and country for a while now you imbecile .. this is the right move .. the U.S. needs to gtfo of the middle east and let them sort out their own shit .. losing troops and ruining families for nothing

they need to gtfo of afghanistan as well .. the reason they went there in the first place was 'payback' for 911 or so that was the story anyways .. all it's become now is a fkng endless quagmire

[scuzzy]

Didn't they just overrun ISIS' last major existing stronghold in Syria last week?


I fig this was just part of the plan

[Nanners]

seeing all these so-called liberals raging over the end of an immoral and unjustified war is mind boggling.

[andgar923]

Love how the Putin fans... err... I mean Trump fans are trying to spin this.

Great spin, but it doesn't take away the fact that Trump is following orders directly from Putin. He even ordered the Treasury Dept to take it easy on Deripraska on the same day.

[SomeBlackDude]

He even ordered the Treasury Dept to take it easy on Deripraska on the same day.

which is a nice way of saying vlad's pockets just got hundreds of millions of dollars fatter. deripaska is a great front man though.

maybe putin will let him keep that pen as a reward (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XfbWnDXCx8). :lol

what a time.

[NumberSix]

seeing all these so-called liberals raging over the end of an immoral and unjustified war is mind boggling.
The left’s defining characteristic is their lack of principles. They don’t believe in anything in particular. They just know to be hostile to their own country’s traditions. Anything else, they can go either way depending on what’s politically convenient at the moment.

[andgar923]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]The left

[Patrick Chewing]

seeing all these so-called liberals raging over the end of an immoral and unjustified war is mind boggling.


Excellent observation.

:applause:

[SomeBlackDude]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]The left

[PickernRoller]

I'm coming home
I'm coming home
Tell the world that I'm coming home
Let the rain wash away all the pain from yesterday
I know my kingdom awaits and they've forgiven my mistakes
I'm coming home, I'm coming home
Tell the world that I'm coming, home

"A House is Not A Home", I hate this song
Is a house really a home when your loved ones are gone (no)
And ****** got the nerve to blame you for it
And you know you woulda took the bullet if you saw it
But you felt it and still feel it
And money can't make up for it or conceal it
But you deal with it and you keep ballin'
Pour out some liquor, play ball and we keep ballin'
Baby we've been living in sin 'cause we've been really in love
But we've been living as friends
So you've been a guest in your own home
It's time to make your house your own
Pick up your phone, come on

I'm coming home
I'm coming home
Tell the world that I'm coming home
Let the rain wash away all the pain from yesterday
I know my kingdom awaits and they've forgiven my mistakes
I'm coming home, I'm coming home
Tell the world that I'm coming, home

"Ain't No Stopping Us Now", I love that song
Whenever it comes on it makes me feel strong
I thought I told y'all that we won't stop
'Til we back cruising through Harlem, these old blocks
Is what made me, saved me, drove me crazy
Drove me away than embraced me
Forgave me for all of my shortcomings
Welcome to my homecoming
Yeah it's been a long time coming
Lot of fights, lot of scars, lot of bottles
Lot of cars, lot of ups, lot of downs
Made it back, lost my dog (I miss you big)
And here I stand, a better man! (a better man)
Thank you Lord (Thank you Lord)
Thank you all!

I'm coming home
I'm coming home
Tell the world that I'm coming home
Let the rain wash away all the pain from yesterday
I know my kingdom awaits and they've forgiven my mistakes
I'm coming home, I'm coming home
Tell the world that I'm coming, home

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[SomeBlackDude]

:roll:

that timing doe.

[QUOTE]"The Special Counsel

[oh the horror]

I'm convinced now that some of you are trolling and that's all you're doing.


Most of you do understand that you can't just wake up, declare victory in something like this and then just pull troops from an unstable situation right?


You understand that much?

[oh the horror]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]The left

[diamenz]

Stop champ. You're drunk. Sign off for a bit because you sound ridiculous.

give him a chance. maybe he something as equally bad to say about the right.

[dude77]

dubyasix on principles/ethics (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXQ940YSD2A)

amazing.


I look up jon polito to see what he's up to and it turns out he's dead rip .. but the shocker was I come to find out he was gay wtf lol

[Duderonomy]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]The left

[dunksby]

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[SomeBlackDude]

best. christmas. ever.


The New York Times
‏@nytimes

Breaking News: President Vladimir Putin of Russia praised President Trump's plan to withdraw U.S. troops from Syria, calling it "the right decision."

[QUOTE]Russian leader Vladimir Putin on Thursday said he agreed with President Trump

[rufuspaul]

The Dems want us to be in as many Vietnam-like quagmires as possible. Oh how times have changed.

[oh the horror]

best. christmas. ever.





some of you may not need the translation...



"no puppet."

https://www.laprogressive.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Screen-shot-2018-07-17-at-6.49.20-AM.png




I don

[TheMan]

The left’s defining characteristic is their lack of principles. They don’t believe in anything in particular. They just know to be hostile to their own country’s traditions. Anything else, they can go either way depending on what’s politically convenient at the moment.
:lol

This is rich...the Right is just as bad if not worse.

Just one example...one of the most fundamental bedrock principles of being a conservative is being fiscally responsible but that goes out the window once the White House is Republican. Trump is just one more GOP president that is adding enormously to the debt. And even worse, Trump supporters are eerily quiet on this subject, unless of course when its a Democratic president...

You've no leg to stand on, sir :no:

[MaxFly]

It's a tad bit concerning when the Secretary of Defense, the National Security Advisor, pentagon officials, key Senators, and allies in the region are surprised by the decision. This was the first they all heard of it. The merits of the decision aside, who was it made in concert and consultation with? People on the right seem extremely confused.

[NumberSix]

:lol

This is rich...the Right is just as bad if not worse.

Just one example...one of the most fundamental bedrock principles of being a conservative is being fiscally responsible but that goes out the window once the White House is Republican. Trump is just one more GOP president that is adding enormously to the debt. And even worse, Trump supporters are eerily quiet on this subject, unless of course when its a Democratic president...

You've no leg to stand on, sir :no:
You notice I didn

[NumberSix]

It's a tad bit concerning when the Secretary of Defense, the National Security Advisor, pentagon officials, key Senators, and allies in the region are surprised by the decision. This was the first they all heard of it. The merits of the decision aside, who was it made in concert and consultation with? People on the right seem extremely confused.
I have no idea if this is a good move or not. My instinct is that it isn’t. But the problem is there is so little information. We know almost nothing about the realities on the ground compared to people like the access that Trump, Mattis and Pompeo have.

Like I said, my instinct is that it’s a bad move, but not a devastating mistake like pulling out of Iraq. There supposedly are 2,000 troops who are only in an advising role. My instinct is we’re better off leaving them there.

[HarryBergeron]

Lion of Demascus-1

Zioshills-0


BASEDshar al-Assad stays winning. Commiefgts stay losing.

[Objectivity]

Lion of Demascus-1

Zioshills-0


BASEDshar al-Assad stays winning. Commiefgts stay losing.

:djparty




:hammertime: :hammertime: :hammertime:

[bladefd]

I don’t know how anyone that isn’t trolling can look at all of the details coming out lately and not think that our presidency isn’t working for Russia and Putin.



It’s really insane that they keep talking about “liberals and Democrats” on this board meanwhile our president is operating under foreign influence.

I honestly don't have a position in the Syrian conflict and whether to keep our troops there. Traditionally I am of the mindset that mixing soldiers with civilians is a recipe for disaster and actually fosters fear & hate, which leads to terrorism. But soldiers are also necessary to hunt down terrorists in this troubled region - Syrian government is so corrupt that they are not capable of policing their own borders. Both arguments has pros/cons, but I do completely agree with you that this goes right down the Putin lane. Trump has time and time again done things that help Russia. I don't know if one of Trump's advisers is in clandestine touch with someone in Putin's ears or whether this is completely coincidental (what are the chances if we keep seeing this sort of behavior from Trump?), but this is worrisome.

Russia has couple air bases and troop presence already in Syria. With America getting pulled out, Russia can expand out their troops.. I won't be surprised if they send 5,000 more troops there.. This is exactly what Russia was hoping for, and they got it..

[Artillery]

100% false. The kurds have spent more time trying to fight the SAA than ISIL. Syria was secured from the Israel and US backed terrorists by the SAA and the Russian airforce.

Correct. Just look at how they escorted the Isis fighters out of Raqqa so they could harass the SAA in the future. Also gave US/Israel an excuse to prolong this conflict.


Why do you neocons (thats what you are now Don) have such a hard on for useless fgt kurds? Is it because you are all trotskyites?

Propaganda mostly. Israel and the Pentagon have had a "Kurdistan" project in mind for decades. A puppet state that would be carved out of Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Turkey. The Kurdish proxies would be the footsoldiers with Israel and US pulling the strings. It would provide a meat shield for Israel while also debilitating all of Israel's regional rivals by absorbing their natural resources. The first phase was the Iraq war. Second phase was Syria. They tried desperately to beat the war drums on Iran but couldn't get enough public support. They tried to stage a coup in Turkey two years ago but Putin intercepted the transmissions and warned Erdogan, thereby saving his ass.

It's no coincidence that Israel is the most concerned with this recent development:

Netanyahu has lobbied Trump very hard in the past not to pull out U.S. troops. Israel has been fighting for the last two years against Iranian entrenchment in Syria. It's most concerned about the U.S. pulling its forces from al-Tanf base, which blocks Iran from forming a land corridor from via Iraq and Syria to Hezbollah in Lebanon, and to the Mediterranean.

[Objectivity]

I honestly don't have a position in the Syrian conflict and whether to keep our troops there. Traditionally I am of the mindset that mixing soldiers with civilians is a recipe for disaster and actually fosters fear & hate, which leads to terrorism. But soldiers are also necessary to hunt down terrorists in this troubled region - Syrian government is so corrupt that they are not capable of policing their own borders. Both arguments has pros/cons, but I do completely agree with you that this goes right down the Putin lane. Trump has time and time again done things that help Russia. I don't know if one of Trump's advisers is in clandestine touch with someone in Putin's ears or whether this is completely coincidental (what are the chances if we keep seeing this sort of behavior from Trump?), but this is worrisome.

Russia has couple air bases and troop presence already in Syria. With America getting pulled out, Russia can expand out their troops.. I won't be surprised if they send 5,000 more troops there.. This is exactly what Russia was hoping for, and they got it..

Lets face it, murica did their best to destroy the only secular arab state and install their puppet wahabbi rehime, buy you lost :banana:

[SomeBlackDude]

mattis out.


Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

General Jim Mattis will be retiring, with distinction, at the end of February, after having served my Administration as Secretary of Defense for the past two years.

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[NumberSix]

mattis out.



https://media.giphy.com/media/fzUUT1ecw1Ofu/giphy.gif
Damn. Looks like Mattis isn’t down with pulling out of Syria (and possibly Afghanistan).

[SomeBlackDude]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Damn. Looks like Mattis isn

[HarryBergeron]

Bye bye warhawk zioshill scumbag

[bladefd]

mattis out.



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Lil Donny doesn't go easy into the night, oh no.
"Do my bidding or be fired"

inb4 numbersix comes barging in with "B-B-B-BUT TRUMP DIDN'T FIRE HIM. HE RETIRED!!" :rolleyes:

[HarryBergeron]

Lil Donny doesn't go easy into the night, oh no.
"Do my bidding or be fired"

inb4 numbersix comes barging in with "B-B-B-BUT TRUMP DIDN'T FIRE HIM. HE RETIRED!!" :rolleyes:
Its LITERALLY thev SOD's job to pursue the LPresidents foreign policy decisions dummy. Why the fvck would you keep a hawk SOD for a withdrawral?


Leftists have lost any ability to judge what they should be criticizing Trump for. You come off as unhinged when you retards say shit like this.

[bladefd]

Its LITERALLY thev SOD's job to pursue the LPresidents foreign policy decisions dummy. Why the fvck would you keep a hawk SOD for a withdrawral?


Leftists have lost any ability to judge what they should be criticizing Trump for. You come off as unhinged when you retards say shit like this.

My point was that Trump doesn't listen to his advisers, including the SOD. Trump only listens to Trump, fires those who don't agree with him and at some point the shtick gets old. What's the point of having advisers if you won't listen to any of them and lash out at them like a rabid dog??

[HarryBergeron]

So you want Trump to stay in a war that you have no opinion on, to serve the interests of foreign nations, at the expense of the treasury 20T in debt, just because John Bolton and a guy named MadDog tell him too.

Yup, im gonna stick with unhinged

[NumberSix]

My point was that Trump doesn't listen to his advisers, including the SOD. Trump only listens to Trump, fires those who don't agree with him and at some point the shtick gets old. What's the point of having advisers if you won't listen to any of them and lash out at them like a rabid dog??
Where were you when Obama pulled out of Iraq against his entire administration’s advice?

What’s your specific reason for wanting troops in Syria?

[Hawker]

So you want Trump to stay in a war that you have no opinion on, to serve the interests of foreign nations, at the expense of the treasury 20T in debt, just because John Bolton and a guy named MadDog tell him too.

Yup, im gonna stick with unhinged
He

[SomeBlackDude]

So predictable with the Russian angle as well.

i think putin just cemented himself as the goat troll the past 2 days.

not even trying to hide his agenda any more.

[QUOTE]Putin tells May to 'fulfil will of people' on Brexit

Vladimir Putin has said the UK should not hold a second referendum on Brexit, insisting Theresa May must

[bladefd]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Where were you when Obama pulled out of Iraq against his entire administration

[PickernRoller]

Perfect example of a whole generation of generals and serviceman in the U.S whose views are largely guided by the caretaking and expansion of the empire or in double-speak, U.S led international order.

Fear not the fact that the country is 20+ trillions in debt and rising and that there is absolutely no sign of ever getting that debt under control. Ride the good ride until collapse motto for these fvcks. Dreaming somehow that China and Russia can be contained both at once.... delusion of grandiosity beyond the pale.

Meanwhile China has already surpassed the U.S economy PP wise, is in the process of morphing to a consumer base economy while having an industrial and manufacturing base that dwarfs ours...

Russia's economy has survived and will not fall to the little games being played either. No matter how much propaganda is spewed out and about the Russian economy being in taters. Another delusion.

These dinosaurs are making a hissy fit to try to box Trump once again into doing something he does not believe in, campaigned on or was voted for. Their superior wisdom is the debasing and future bankruptcy of the country by overstretch - like all empires before.

Fvck Mattis, the MIC and the spooks.

[andgar923]

LOL people defending the Puppet Trump.

Pathetic.

Trump doesn't care about our troops. He doesn't care about the war. He doesn't care about anything or anyone other than himself and what Putin tells him to do. But you pathetic idiots keep spinning in an attempt to defend the traitor.

Once again newsflash...

HE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU IDIOTS!!!

Not one bit.

[Hawker]

Bringing troops home means he cares - sorry bud.

[falc39]

This is a great thing. We should have never been in Syria.

Gotta give credit where it's due. Trump has been completely wrong with economics but this should have been done a long time ago.

[Ben Simmons 25]

Perfect example of a whole generation of generals and serviceman in the U.S whose views are largely guided by the caretaking and expansion of the empire or in double-speak, U.S led international order.

Fear not the fact that the country is 20+ trillions in debt and rising and that there is absolutely no sign of ever getting that debt under control. Ride the good ride until collapse motto for these fvcks. Dreaming somehow that China and Russia can be contained both at once.... delusion of grandiosity beyond the pale.

Meanwhile China has already surpassed the U.S economy PP wise, is in the process of morphing to a consumer base economy while having an industrial and manufacturing base that dwarfs ours...

Russia's economy has survived and will not fall to the little games being played either. No matter how much propaganda is spewed out and about the Russian economy being in taters. Another delusion.

These dinosaurs are making a hissy fit to try to box Trump once again into doing something he does not believe in, campaigned on or was voted for. Their superior wisdom is the debasing and future bankruptcy of the country by overstretch - like all empires before.

Fvck Mattis, the MIC and the spooks.

:applause:

[andgar923]

Bringing troops home means he cares - sorry bud.
:roll:

[SomeBlackDude]

:roll:

this man vlad is holding nothing back. he wants his shit done and he wants it done NOW. no more beating around the bush. f*ck sanctions. f*ck brexit redo. f*k 'murrica in syria. and now- f*ck 'murrica in afghanistan.

yesterday:


Sputnik
‏@SputnikInt

BREAKING: #Putin on US withdrawal: US regularly says they pull out troops from #Afghanistan http://sptnkne.ws/krZ5 #PutinConference #PutinPresser2018

[QUOTE]Putin:

[SomeBlackDude]

this man vlad is holding nothing back. he wants his shit done and he wants it done NOW. no more beating around the bush.


Putin Says Ready for Possible Meeting With Trump
President Putin said that Moscow is interested in discussing the problem of North Korea, the situation in Afghanistan as well as bilateral relations with Washington, expressing hope they will improve in the future.

He went on to note that he does not know whether Trump will be able start a direct dialogue with Russia under current conditions.

"We see what is happening there [in the US]. Now the leadership in the Congress will change. We can forecast with nearly 100-percent accuracy that there will be new attacks on the incumbent president. I do not know whether he will be able to start a direct dialogue with Russia in these conditions. You should ask them", Putin said.

makes sense. he knows this is the last week the gop controls all of congress. it's litrally now or never to get shit done unencumbered.

last 2 days got- sanctions removed, 'murrica out of syria, 'murrica out of afghanistan.

let's see what he can squeeze out of the emperor tomorrow before the shutdown.

next level 4-d master. :bowdown:

[MaxFly]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]I have no idea if this is a good move or not. My instinct is that it isn

[MaxFly]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Du5M9DqWwAEYru4.jpg

Frosty..

[oh the horror]

This administration has gotten more chaotic and embarrassing as time goes on. Period.

It’s clear that his “supporters” on this board are either mentality disturbed or purposely baiting people.


This has been a sh*t-show. I’m almost curious how worse it can get.

I mean the guy can’t even find people to fill positions within the White House.

[HarryBergeron]

>Trump fulfills one of his one of his major campaign promises that the American people vote for

NPC's: ZOMGRUSSIAHAXORPUTIN


Predictable

[ItsMillerTime]

[QUOTE=oh the horror]This administration has gotten more chaotic and embarrassing as time goes on. Period.

It

[SomeBlackDude]

>Trump fulfills one of his one of his major campaign promises that the American people vote for

NPC's: ZOMGRUSSIAHAXORPUTIN


Predictable

predictable indeed.

[QUOTE][B][U]Glee in Russia Over Trump

[oh the horror]

>Trump fulfills one of his one of his major campaign promises that the American people vote for

NPC's: ZOMGRUSSIAHAXORPUTIN


Predictable


You clearly aren't processing what's happening around you correctly.

[HarryBergeron]

Zomg The Us Isnt Pissing Off The Entire World By Providing Material Support To Islamist Terrorists Because Israel Tells Them To Its The Apocolypse

[HarryBergeron]

The US decision to withdraw its forces from Syria is problematic for Israel, Middle East expert Dr. David Bukay of the University of Haifa said on Thursday.


http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/256495


All these Israeli puppets smh.

[SixShooter]

Excellent news.

Are there even any regular American citizens that want to continue middle eastern wars at this point? (meaning no shills, jews, or politicians)

[eliteballer]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-call-turkish-leader-led-us-pullout-syria-143903344--politics.html

[Patrick Chewing]

[QUOTE=oh the horror]This administration has gotten more chaotic and embarrassing as time goes on. Period.

It

[NumberSix]

[QUOTE=oh the horror]This administration has gotten more chaotic and embarrassing as time goes on. Period.

It

[NumberSix]

Ok. My concern is that seemingly none of the military leaders, Senators or our allies were consulted or received prior warning. From all appearances, he made this decision without input from anyone of merit.
Advice differs depending on the goal. If the goal is to eventually overthrow the Syrian government, pulling the troops out is obviously the wrong move.

What exactly is the goal in Syria? :confusedshrug:

[Patrick Chewing]

[QUOTE=oh the horror]This administration has gotten more chaotic and embarrassing as time goes on. Period.

It

[NumberSix]

I don’t have strong opinions one way or the other on whether there should be troops in Syria. I’m willing to hear the argument for keeping them there, but somebody who thinks pulling them out is a disaster at some point is going to have to give an explanation of WHY there should be troops in Syria.

What is the thing that needs to be achieved in Syria and how does pulling these 2,000 troops out damage that goal?

[Nash]

I don't get it, for years people have talked about pulling back the troops from these countries and when they do its bad all of a sudden?

America should stop interfering over there, Trump is doing the right thing.

[Hawker]

I don't get it, for years people have talked about pulling back the troops from these countries and when they do its bad all of a sudden?

America should stop interfering over there, Trump is doing the right thing.

Exactly. The #1 thing Americans abroad get shit for is for having troops everywhere and getting involved everywhere. And then making a mess of it.

The establishment and journalists in America that say, “we are betraying our allies for this” or “this is embarrassing us on the international stage” are simply clueless. The regular folk that live abroad are applauding this move. This makes trump look good abroad - make no mistake.

[NumberSix]

Exactly. The #1 thing Americans abroad get shit for is for having troops everywhere and getting involved everywhere. And then making a mess of it.

The establishment and journalists in America that say, “we are betraying our allies for this” or “this is embarrassing us on the international stage” are simply clueless. The regular folk that live abroad are applauding this move. This makes trump look good abroad - make no mistake.
The problem is, nobody ever explains WHY they want to have troops in Syria. Maybe there’s a really good reason. I don’t know. But my suspicion is that they never tell us because they have no reason or that THIER reason for wanting troops there is something they know won’t have much support. Like regime change or low-key supporting jihadi groups.

[MaxFly]

The problem is, nobody ever explains WHY they want to have troops in Syria. Maybe there’s a really good reason. I don’t know. But my suspicion is that they never tell us because they have no reason or that THIER reason for wanting troops there is something they know won’t have much support. Like regime change or low-key supporting jihadi groups.

Sounds like the concerns are three-fold. Don't bother to argue with me as to whether these concerns are legitimate or specious. I'm simply conveying the concerns that elected, military and intelligence officials have expressed. I don't necessarily share these views.

1. There's concern that we could have a repeat of Iraq, where, after we withdrew under Obama in keeping with the agreement signed under Bush, ISIS rose in the region. Obama received heavy critcism, especially from Trump, for withdrawing from Iraq.

2. There's concern that Turkey will begin killing off our Kurdish allies in the region who have helped us fight ISIS and to whom we made promises of continued partnership. Turkey has pretty much promised that when we pull out, they'll give it a day and start slaughtering the Kurds.

3. There's concern that we are leaving the region to Russian and Iranain powers to slice, dice and manipulate as they see fit.

[andgar923]

I don't get it, for years people have talked about pulling back the troops from these countries and when they do its bad all of a sudden?

America should stop interfering over there, Trump is doing the right thing.

I instinctively agree with this.

But international affairs aren't simple. As much as I wish we weren't in every continent risking our service members for rich white men there are legit reasons why we're there.

It's too complex and multi-layered to explain and I doubt anyone here is an expert to fully break down. But sadly/angrily we're there and our presence is sadly now essential for a number of reasons. Most of those is to create stability and act as a guard dog.

Yeah... it sucks, sucks hard, but those a$$holes made all of this happen. American meddling has created some of the world's instability mostly by design. And now as a result we must have to deal with this monster we created or we're double f(*cked.

As a die hard anti war anti Military expansion anti corporate sponsored war machine we have to accept and deal with it.

Them pieces of sh*t purposely put us in this position and we're f(cked as a result.

If we leave, it creates possible turmoil and instability in areas of the world which affect us. Yeah, a lot of it has to do with oil and making old rich white men richer, but innocents will die as a result. Why do we care about innocents that aren't American? because it will lead to other issues that will affect us directly.

It will affect our economic interests abroad, it will affect our allies, it will affect our safety abroad and at home, it will affect our intelligence services, plus much more.

Pulling out leaves us and the world vulnerable.

Pulling out gives Russia and other countries the green light to attack, build bases and take over regions which will hurt us in the future. They become a threat and will impose their strength militarily.

We are leaving because Putin wanted us to leave, plain and simple. And he wanted us to leave so he could advance his dominance which aint good for us or for most of the world.

So essentially we're f*cked.

[HarryBergeron]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]The problem is, nobody ever explains WHY they want to have troops in Syria. Maybe there

[bladefd]

If the goal is to truly pull troops out, lets pull them out of places like Germany, Japan, Australia, Italy, Spain, England, etc that we do not need to be..

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/US_military_bases_in_the_world_2007.PNG

[Duderonomy]

If the goal is to truly pull troops out, lets pull them out of places like Germany, Japan, Australia, Italy, Spain, England, etc that we do not need to be..

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/US_military_bases_in_the_world_2007.PNG
The need for the current US military is to control the global routes of trade. Hence why the heavy concentrations of personal in certain areas.

[ILLsmak]

If the goal is to truly pull troops out, lets pull them out of places like Germany, Japan, Australia, Italy, Spain, England, etc that we do not need to be..

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/US_military_bases_in_the_world_2007.PNG

Can't necessarily agree. We need troops there just incase and while they are there they are not in the same danger. They are getting life experience on the military dime. I think a lot of people care about money but money is bs. Lives however...

Isis prol won't rise again (in the same places) cuz we ****ed them hard but someone will. We always need some terrorist group to fight.

Edit : I'm all for keeping troops around this shit show but we should not be in the midst of it if we don't have to. I was a big fan of the missile strike we did. People act up slap them with some missiles and say come see is at the border.

-Smak

[Hawker]

If the goal is to truly pull troops out, lets pull them out of places like Germany, Japan, Australia, Italy, Spain, England, etc that we do not need to be..

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/US_military_bases_in_the_world_2007.PNG

You

[NumberSix]

3. There's concern that we are leaving the region to Russian and Iranain powers to slice, dice and manipulate as they see fit.
That ship has sailed. The United States absolutely is not going to remove Russia from Syria by force and having 2,000 soldiers there isn’t going to make Russia suddenly decide to leave. Russia is in Syria. That’s a done deal at this point.

[fiddy]

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1079858498077425666?s=19

[SomeBlackDude]

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1079858498077425666?s=19

the deep state got to the emperor. :facepalm


CBS News
‏@CBSNews

Sen. Lindsey Graham, who criticized President Trump's withdrawal of troops from the Middle East, says Trump today told him "some things I didn't know that make me feel a lot better about where we're headed in Syria"

[dude77]

instead of 1 month .. 4 months ok

[SomeBlackDude]

the deep state got to the emperor. :facepalm

bolton reminding the emperor who really runs the show.


The Associated Press
‏@AP

BREAKING: President Trump's national security adviser, John Bolton, says the U.S. military withdrawal from Syria conditioned on defeating the remnants of the Islamic State group, and Turkey assuring the safety of Kurdish fighters allied with the U.S.


The New York Times
‏@nytimes

John Bolton says U.S. forces would remain in Syria until the last remnants of ISIS were defeated and Turkey provided guarantees that it would not strike U.S.-allied Kurdish forces

https://ya-webdesign.com/images/dollar-pyramid-png-3.png

vlad will not be pleased. :ohwell:

[fiddy]

bolton reminding the emperor who really runs the show.





https://ya-webdesign.com/images/dollar-pyramid-png-3.png

vlad will not be pleased. :ohwell:
Bruh, you are cluess if you think:
-This development hurts Russia in any way
-This development is aimed at Russia

Erdogan is fuming but still not taking the bait.

[SomeBlackDude]

Bruh, you are cluess if you think:
-This development hurts Russia in any way
-This development is aimed at Russia

member when the emperor and vlad had that secret meeting in helsinki that no one was invited to and whose content was never released publicly? member when rusher said they had reached 'agreements' that were never revealed? no one at the pentagon or u.s. intelligence or congress had even the slightest clue what was discussed or agreed to?

[QUOTE]Russia Says Agreements Were Discussed With Trump On Syria. The U.S. Is Silent

Russian officials are saying the meeting in Helsinki between President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin resulted in an agreement that includes cooperation between the two countries in Syria.

Speaking at a news conference next to Trump on Monday, Putin said establishing peace and reconciliation "could be the first showcase example of the successful joint work. Russia and the United States apparently can proactively take leadership on this issue," including overcoming the humanitarian crisis and helping Syrians go back to their homes.

Russia's ambassador to the United States, Anatoly Antonov, told reporters on Wednesday Putin spoke with Trump about "specific and interesting proposals," on how the two countries could work together in Syria.

No official joint communiqu