The new move Harden is doing is a travel

[Walk on Water]

Why is he getting away with even more stuff? That

[Haymaker]

"The new move Iverson is doing is a carry" - Someone, back in 1996.

Get over it. :rolleyes:

[superduper]

Nah the stepback moves he was doing last night is not a travel.

He pretends to take a step forward, goes back into his pivot/triple threat position and pulls up.

[meat]

The new move Durant is doing is called "Out of bounds by a freaking mile with two refs looking right at him"

[Kblaze8855]

"The new move Iverson is doing is a carry" - Someone, back in 1996.

Get over it. :rolleyes:


Hes a little more egregious with some of his shit....


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Plus....they started calling AI for it all the time.

[superduper]

Hes a little more egregious with some of his shit....


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Plus....they started calling AI for it all the time.

That was definitely a travel but he didn't do that once yesterday

[andgar923]

Hes a little more egregious with some of his shit....


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Plus....they started calling AI for it all the time.
:eek:

He looking like Bobby Brown out there

[SamuraiSWISH]

Hes a little more egregious with some of his shit....


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Plus....they started calling AI for it all the time.
AI

[Smook A.]

Hes a little more egregious with some of his shit....


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Plus....they started calling AI for it all the time.
He did that 2 step back move once (which was an obvious travel) and everyone's acting like he does it all the time. He really doesn't, and his travels are over exaggerated.

[Smoke117]

He did that 2 step back move once (which was an obvious travel) and everyone's acting like he does it all the time. He really doesn't, and his travels are over exaggerated.

He's been doing travel level shuffle step backs for a long time now. Very few of his step backs are actually legit.

[superduper]

He did that 2 step back move once (which was an obvious travel) and everyone's acting like he does it all the time. He really doesn't, and his travels are over exaggerated.

Agreed, Giannis' travels are far more egregious.

[AirFederer]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]AI

[Kblaze8855]

He did that 2 step back move once (which was an obvious travel) and everyone's acting like he does it all the time. He really doesn't, and his travels are over exaggerated.


No...they really arent. Of course the funnier ones get more attention but hes as bad as any of these guys if not worse.

Pretty much none of them play what we were taught basketball is...but Harden seems to revel in it the most. Like....hes rubbing your face in his lack of abiding by the rules and the way normal people expect a game to be played. Though to be sure...that isnt just in how he travels.

[Smook A.]

He's been doing travel level shuffle step backs for a long time now. Very few of his step backs are actually legit.
That's just not true. Watch bballbreakdown's video on Harden's stepbacks. That's literally what he does every game. It's not a travel. He steps back WITH a dribble, and then steps back again. 2 steps

[Smook A.]

No...they really arent. Of course the funnier ones get more attention but hes as bad as any of these guys if not worse.

Pretty much none of them play what we were taught basketball is...but Harden seems to revel in it the most. Like....hes rubbing your face in his lack of abiding by the rules and the way normal people expect a game to be played. Though to be sure...that isnt just in how he travels.
People saying he travels on every stepback is just not accurate at all. That's where the over exaggeration comes in. If you watch the step backs in slow motion, you can see he takes 2 steps without a dribble before shooting the ball, which is legal.

[SamuraiSWISH]

That's just not true. Watch bballbreakdown's video on Harden's stepbacks. That's literally what he does every game. It's not a travel. He steps back WITH a dribble, and then steps back again. 2 steps
And that’s illegal. You get those 2 steps making a move TO the basket.

Not to mention the completion of a step back is really a hop are backward if you pick up your dribble which is your steps

[LoneyROY7]

No...they really arent. Of course the funnier ones get more attention but hes as bad as any of these guys if not worse.

Pretty much none of them play what we were taught basketball is...but Harden seems to revel in it the most. Like....hes rubbing your face in his lack of abiding by the rules and the way normal people expect a game to be played. Though to be sure...that isnt just in how he travels.

Shocking response from this guy. Last night's result must've had you HEATED. Probably ended up with some busted electronics. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/pLhftkMM/Oh4pUzh.gif

Deal with it, baby boi.

[Kblaze8855]

Shocking response from this guy. Last night's result must've had you HEATED. Probably ended up with some busted electronics. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

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Deal with it, baby boi.

You really think that at this point someone who is annoyed by James Harden cares about his regular season production?

I watched him have a 60 point triple double.

You think his current production matters to me?

There is nothing James Harden can do to quiet anyone but win in the playoffs. And even then hed still be a bitch.

What.....think hed be the first great douchebag?

Ive never said he cant play. I say he plays a bitchly brand of basketballl.

Like Karl Malone. Nobody think he was a bad power forward. He was just a scumbag.

You can be two things.

Harden is great....and an embarrassment. Hes been doing hall of fame numbers for years now. You think I just noticed?

I know he does numbers. I just dont think it prevents him from being a clown. Why would it?

Dwight Howard was productive...and a clown. Elvin Hayes was productive...and a dick. This isnt difficult. One thing has nothing to do with the other. Harden fans have been making a big deal of him then getting laughed at in the playoffs for 7 years running. Think im worried now? About anything that happens in January? He had back to back 50 point games last winter. Im sure you had a lot to say about that. Any Harden haters get their comeuppance or did you end up getting laughed at again in the playoffs?

None of this shit matters to people who dont like James Harden. None of it. Its just more fuel to the "What about the playoffs doe?" bonfire they plan to throw in May. If James Harden has 84 points all its gonna end up is a meme when he has 29 on 11-38 shooting with 9 turnovers getting knocked out of the playoffs.

This isnt a battle you can win in January.

[LoneyROY7]

You really think that at this point someone who is annoyed by James Harden cares about his regular season production?

I watched him have a 60 point triple double.

You think his current production matters to me?

There is nothing James Harden can do to quiet anyone but win in the playoffs. And even then hed still be a bitch.

What.....think hed be the first great douchebag?

Ive never said he cant play. I say he plays a bitchly brand of basketballl.

Like Karl Malone. Nobody think he was a bad power forward. He was just a scumbag.



You can be two things.

Harden is great....and an embarrassment. Hes been doing hall of fame numbers for years now. You think I just noticed?

I know he does numbers. I just dont think it prevents him from being a clown. Why would it?

Dwight Howard was productive...and a clown. Elvin Hayes was productive...and a dick. This isnt difficult. One thing has nothing to do with the other. Harden fans have been making a big deal of him then getting laughed at in the playoffs for 7 years running. Think im worried now? About anything that happens in January? He had back to back 50 point games last winter. Im sure you had a lot to say about that. Any Harden haters get their comeuppance or did you end up getting laughed at again in the playoffs?

None of this shit matters to people who dont like James Harden. None of it. Its just more fuel to the "What about the playoffs doe?" bonfire they plan to throw in May. If James Harden has 84 points all its gonna end up is a meme when he has 29 on 11-38 shooting with 9 turnovers getting knocked out of the playoffs.

This isnt a battle you can win in January.

Jesus. Can you make a post without at least 2 unnecessary paragraphs?

:oldlol: :oldlol:

You're mad. It's okay.

[Kblaze8855]

So the one hand you claim all my posts are lengthy but on the other that I am mad because of it. I suppose I

[LoneyROY7]

So the one hand you claim all my posts are lengthy but on the other that I am mad because of it. I suppose I’m mad about everything that ever happened in the NBA then?

Not that I would expect much deductive reasoning from someone who still thinks people who don’t like James Harden are worried about his regular season production when the extreme majority of the heat he gets is centered on the fact that he does exactly this in games that don’t matter.

The biggest harden hater alive isn’t stressing big games in January.

The more of them there are....the easier it is to ask why they don’t continue when it counts.

The ideal season for a harden hater?

For him to put up 35-40 ppg the whole year then vanish before it counts. That would help not hurt his haters case.

He’s beyond proving anything in January.

Yeah these games definitely don't matter. I mean I guess when the Rockets were 11-14 and 14th in the West Harden should've packed it in and waited until May.

I wonder how the Rockets playoff prospects would've looked if 12 games ago Harden didn't decide to put a team of throwaways and former g-leaguers on his back and go out and knock off playoff team after playoff team? And yeah, it's not impressive at all that Harden took that same team and beat the defending champs consisting of 4 all-stars while putting up 44/15/10 with a game-tying and game-winning 3 in Oracle.

But yeah, these games don't matter. No reason to even watch. I'll let you get back to your regularly scheduled programming of grainy gifs and walls of irrelevant text.

[dunksby]

People saying he travels on every stepback is just not accurate at all. That's where the over exaggeration comes in. If you watch the step backs in slow motion, you can see he takes 2 steps without a dribble before shooting the ball, which is legal.
Do you even know basketball? Jeez...


d. If a player, with the ball in his possession, raises his pivot foot off the floor, he must pass or shoot before his pivot foot returns to the floor. If he drops the ball while in the air, he may not be the first to touch the ball.

[Kblaze8855]

Yeah these games definitely don't matter. I mean I guess when the Rockets were 11-14 and 14th in the West Harden should've packed it in and waited until May.

I wonder how the Rockets playoff prospects would've looked if 12 games ago Harden didn't decide to put a team of throwaways and former g-leaguers on his back and go out and knock off playoff team after playoff team? And yeah, it's not impressive at all that Harden took that same team and beat the defending champs consisting of 4 all-stars while putting up 45/15/10 with a game-tying and game-winning 3 in Oracle.

But yeah, these games don't matter. No reason to even watch. I'll let you get back to your regularly scheduled programming of grainy gifs and walls of irrelevant text.

Id normally not expect to see the term "irrelevant text" from someone busy defending a player whos primary knock is a lack of playoff success...by using a regular season run. Seems you wouldnt want that poorly made argument and "irrelevant text" too close together. Kinda draws the eye.

I will be happy to give you some grainy gifs though. How are these?

































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When his offense is reliable enough to not blow leads that would have resulted in his team easily winning the finals....when his shot making can prevent a run of 27 missed threes in a row.....when his team matters in the end?

People will have less to say.

You really cant fail to see why the 6th straight year of great play from him and the 4th or so straight of roughly MVP level ball doesnt change many minds.

This happening...then them not mattering in the end...is exactly what people hate on him for. I mean...aside from playing basketball like a jackass.

[Ben Simmons 25]

James Harden is a cocksucking ****** that regularly exploits rules and thus his play stands in contrast with very nature of why we are having most rules in the first place... fair competition.

He's a bitch.

[LoneyROY7]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

It's like this f*cking guy just NEEDS to take up space when he posts.

Throw in some more extra spaces in between them paragraphs and gifs, champ.

[Ben Simmons 25]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

It's like this f*cking guy just NEEDS to take up space when he posts.

Throw in some more extra spaces in between them paragraphs and gifs, champ.

What would the dingo aka AMC say?

[superduper]

James Harden is a cocksucking ****** that regularly exploits rules and thus his play stands in contrast with very nature of why we are having most rules in the first place... fair competition.

He's a bitch.

If only he played legally like our Kang

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHgdSveUAAA5LeB.jpg

https://i.redd.it/3vfypo8xa8601.jpg

http://i59.tinypic.com/2cglyqs.jpg

[Ben Simmons 25]

If only he played legally like our Kang

1) Stiff arming is not > 50% of James' play, you mouthbreathing inbred.
2) James is one of those guys that's impossible to officiate. He takes such a beating almost every single game, that if you fairly called the times he's fouled and the times he fouls other people, the whistle would be blowing non stop. He's like Shaq. If every time Shaq was fouled, the whistles were actually called? Other teams would have to forfeit nearly every game due to a lack of bodies.

Not that I expect you to admit any of this.

[bullettooth]

:eek:

He looking like Bobby Brown out there

He's just jumpin' around.

[superduper]

1) Stiff arming is not > 50% of James' play, you mouthbreathing inbred.
2) James is one of those guys that's impossible to officiate. He takes such a beating almost every single game, that if you fairly called the times he's fouled and the times he fouls other people, the whistle would be blowing non stop. He's like Shaq. If every time Shaq was fouled, the whistles were actually called? Other teams would have to forfeit nearly every game due to a lack of bodies.

Not that I expect you to admit any of this.

LeBron isn't the only player in history that's big and drives in the paint. This situation is not exclusive to LeBron, nowhere close. A lot of players are hard to officiate and Bran gets away with a lot of bullshit nonsense as well.

King James is just as difficult to officiate because he is also strong and unstoppable at getting into the paint as well as being incredibly shifty and being skilled enough to constantly have 3-4 different options to use when he is controlling the ball.

[Kblaze8855]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

It's like this f*cking guy just NEEDS to take up space when he posts.

Throw in some more extra spaces in between them paragraphs and gifs, champ.


Nah. This guy just NEEDS to make sense. A handicap I understand you are not burdened with.

[Ben Simmons 25]

LeBron isn't the only player in history that's big and drives in the paint. This situation is not exclusive to LeBron, nowhere close. A lot of players are hard to officiate and Bran gets away with a lot of bullshit nonsense as well.

King James is just as difficult to officiate because he is also strong and unstoppable at getting into the paint as well as being incredibly shifty and being skilled enough to constantly have 3-4 different options to use when he is controlling the ball.

Oh yeah? Well AD sucks right? You've said as much numerous times.

Every time I ask this question you ghost the thread so here we go again...

You won't have a problem with AD going to the Lakers since he sucks so badly and has no impact, right?

Now piss off. :D

[superduper]

Oh yeah? Well AD sucks right? You've said as much numerous times.

Every time I ask this question you ghost the thread so here we go again...

You won't have a problem with AD going to the Lakers since he sucks so badly and has no impact, right?

Now piss off. :D

As a first option he sucks. Obviously as a 2nd option the impact of his skillset is shifted as his weaknesses of being passive as a first option won't be there. I ignore you because you're a bumbling moron :lol

Either way, AD is not going to the Lakers. The Pels won't let him go for nothing and there's no way in hell they're trading him to the Lakers unless Bran's got a secret agent in the front office to give him players for free like he does in Phx with James Jones.

[LoneyROY7]

Nah. This guy just NEEDS to make sense. A handicap I understand you are not burdened with.

Yeah, nothing I've said has made sense. But your argument of regular season games not mattering when the Rockets were buried in the 14th spot out West was just spot on. :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Ben Simmons 25]

As a first option he sucks. Obviously as a 2nd option the impact of his skillset is shifted as his weaknesses of being passive as a first option won't be there. I ignore you because you're a bumbling moron :lol

Either way, AD is not going to the Lakers. The Pels won't let him go for nothing and there's no way in hell they're trading him to the Lakers unless Bran's got a secret agent in the front office to give him players for free like he does in Phx with James Jones.

Glad you finally came up with a way to twist your agenda driven viewpoints. Bravo. Clown. :D

[superduper]

I have no rebuttal. I'm a clown :D

I know

[Kblaze8855]

Yeah, nothing I've said has made sense. But your argument of regular season games not mattering when the Rockets were buried in the 14th spot out West was just spot on. :oldlol: :oldlol:

If you think that determining factor in whether or not James Harden gets the respect you think he deserves from the people who don’t like him is making the playoffs or not you aren’t paying attention.

They just won 65 games and he got laughed at end of the season more than he ever had before.

James Harden is a first ballot Hall of Famer who has people opening the discussion about him being the greatest offensive player ever.

He is no longer judged by the low standards you try to use. Jalen Rose helping his team come from an early deficit to middle of the pack in the playoff race would be enough to quiet detractors. James Harden is the NBA MVP.

You really have to come to grips with the fact that the people who don’t respect him are never going to because of anything that happens in the regular season. Absolutely nothing.

[LoneyROY7]

If you think that determining factor in whether or not James Harden gets the respect you think he deserves from the people who don’t like him is making the playoffs or not you aren’t paying attention.

They just won 65 games and he got laughed at end of the season more than he ever had before.

James Harden is a first ballot Hall of Famer who has people opening the discussion about him being the greatest offensive player ever.

He is no longer judged by the low standards you try to use. Jalen Rose helping his team come from an early deficit to middle of the pack in the playoff race would be enough to quiet detractors. James Harden is the NBA MVP.

You really have to come to grips with the fact that the people who don’t respect him are never going to because of anything that happens in the regular season. Absolutely nothing.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Now I know you just have conversations with yourself. This reality didn't exist.

He wasn't laughed at more than ever before when he lost in a game 7 to KD, Steph, Klay, and Draymond playing without Chris Paul.

[Kblaze8855]

Did I say they should have won?

Or did I say he got laughed at?

Harden has been getting progressively more disrespected every year they fall short.

That

[LoneyROY7]

Did I say they should have won?

Or did I say he got laughed at?

Harden has been getting progressively more disrespected every year they fall short.

That’s how it works when you hit a certain level. And like his game or enjoy watching him or not you’ve never seen me deny he is on the level in question. He is an elite player. He’s not gonna get that much in love anymore for doing things the entire basketball world would come together and love a less established player for.

He’s where Lebron was when there weren’t 3 rings to justify his hype.

He’s having multiple 08-10 Cavs seasons which are no doubt great basketball....but never gonna get him as respected as you clearly wish he were.

TBH I don't clearly wish he was respected. Seeing someone succeed after being doubted and disrespected is far more enjoyable for me as watcher, then for someone who was handedly praised and expected to do so.

[tpols]

Hes a little more egregious with some of his shit....


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PertinentDisloyalIndigowingedparrot-size_restricted.gif


Plus....they started calling AI for it all the time.

:roll:

He's a sneaky **** with quick feet

[scuzzy]

Hes a little more egregious with some of his shit....


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PertinentDisloyalIndigowingedparrot-size_restricted.gif


Plus....they started calling AI for it all the time.

Doncic does the same shuffle-hop-back 10 times a game :confusedshrug:


Yet to see anyone burn him at the cross for it

[Ben Simmons 25]

Doncic does the same shuffle-hop-back 10 times a game :confusedshrug:


Yet to see anyone burn him at the cross for it

Doncic may travel occasionally but Harden straight up adds an even further 2 steps if necessary.

[OldSchoolBBall]

:eek:

He looking like Bobby Brown out there

:roll:

[Real14]

He did that 2 step back move once (which was an obvious travel) and everyone's acting like he does it all the time. He really doesn't, and his travels are over exaggerated.
He does travel a lot tho.

[Ghost1]

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[Manny98]

Shocking response from this guy. Last night's result must've had you HEATED. Probably ended up with some busted electronics. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/pLhftkMM/Oh4pUzh.gif

Deal with it, baby boi.
Look at this fakkit

You realize the refs are not going to let Harden get away with his travelling/flopping come playoff time?

Your boy is going to choke like always probably a 1st round exit

And we are all going to be laughing at you and the Rockets when Frauden chokes like always :oldlol:

[Manny98]

He did that 2 step back move once (which was an obvious travel) and everyone's acting like he does it all the time. He really doesn't, and his travels are over exaggerated.
He does do it all the time stop defending this fraud i know he is your boy but your sounding delusional

[superduper]

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Lol damn :oldlol:

[Marchesk]

Looks like Harden was expecting the refs to call a travel there for a second before he shoots it.

[andgar923]

That extra shuffle wouldn't be an issue if it was to plant and set up for the shot. But he's still 'moving' back as he does it which IS a travel no matter how you look at it.

And the thing is, he doesn't need to take that extra step after the initial step. He gets enough separation most of the time that he doesn't need to travel.

[Marchesk]

On a related note, the defender falling down looks almost as bad as:

http://i.giphy.com/GTinKMx7zADVC.gif

Similar to the Curry jab step that broke defender's ankle when he was trying to mimic Harden's travel.

[Ghost1]

That extra shuffle wouldn't be an issue if it was to plant and set up for the shot. But he's still 'moving' back as he does it which IS a travel no matter how you look at it.

And the thing is, he doesn't need to take that extra step after the initial step. He gets enough separation most of the time that he doesn't need to travel.


3>2

[Rocket]

That extra shuffle wouldn't be an issue if it was to plant and set up for the shot. But he's still 'moving' back as he does it which IS a travel no matter how you look at it.

And the thing is, he doesn't need to take that extra step after the initial step. He gets enough separation most of the time that he doesn't need to travel.

Bingo!! As long as they are not calling it, why change? He can easily take the extra dribble if needed and will if they start calling it.

[LoneyROY7]

Look at this fakkit

You realize the refs are not going to let Harden get away with his travelling/flopping come playoff time?

Your boy is going to choke like always probably a 1st round exit

And we are all going to be laughing at you and the Rockets when Frauden chokes like always :oldlol:

And you won't be here to say anything about it. :oldlol: :oldlol:

Can't try to weasel outta this bet, baby boi.

[eliteballer]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25714487/james-harden-dominance-unprecedented-undeniable