Box Plus Minus (BPM), Just imagine it...

[And1AllDay]

Jordan vs LeBron, Just imagine it...LeBron is better in ever single way yet people say Jordan was more impactful?

Year 14, 15, 16 BPM
Jordan:
4.6
2.4
1.0
Total: 8.0

LeBron:
8.4
9.6
7.8
Total: 25.8
Advantage: Bron

Best single season
Jordan: 12.6
Lebron: 13.0
Advantage: Bron

Worst single season
Jordan: 1.0
LeBron: 1.4
Advantage: Bron

Career BPM
Jordan: 8.1
LeBron: 9.1
Advantage: Bron

Analysis says...Advantage: Bron in literally every BPM category

Yikes

And I promise I am not even making this up this is all real information found on bbal ref. Factual info

[TheImmortal]

Pauk coming out of the woodworks.. yikes :facepalm

[And1AllDay]

Pauk coming out of the woodworks.. yikes :facepalm

Just posting facts. Not posting based off of following my heart or using emotions while I search for more MJ dunk vidoes on 6'3 Starks via YouTube.

Just facts :confusedshrug:

[3ball]

Just posting facts. Not posting based off of following my heart or using emotions while I search for more MJ dunk vidoes on 6'3 Starks via YouTube.

Just facts :confusedshrug:
Lebron has BPM because he's a boxscore player

MJ was a winning player, hence him owning the win share per 48 stat.. and plus-minus.. and Player Efficiency Rating

[Dray n Klay]

Lebron has BPM because he's a boxscore player

MJ was a winning player, hence him owning the win share per 48 stat.. and plus-minus.. and Player Efficiency Rating

What about rebounds and assists in the Finals?

[3ball]

What about rebounds and assists in the Finals?
What about winning the Finals

Or having an all-time offense

Or having the best brand of basketball

Or the best teams

Or high assist teams


I feel bad for ya as a fan

But I guess you prefer that lebron lose, so you can say he carried the team.. that makes him more goat to you, then the list above..

[Gileraracer]

Lebron stans still desperate to find stats to "prove" that Mr 3*/9 is GOAT.


Won't happen baby boy! 2 superstar collusions for 3 asterisk rings isn't enough to be in the GOAT conversation!

[Manny98]

Lebron has BPM because he's a boxscore player

MJ was a winning player, hence him owning the win share per 48 stat.. and plus-minus.. and Player Efficiency Rating
LeBron had a higher peak win share per 48 in the regular season

2013 LeBron WS/48 .322
91 Jordan WS/48 .321

So 2013 LeBron > Jordans entire career

[Gileraracer]

LeBron had a higher peak win share per 48 in the regular season

2013 LeBron WS/48 .322
91 Jordan WS/48 .321

So 2013 LeBron > Jordans entire career

Damn and still this is the scene that first comes to mind when you think about 2013 :(

http://a.espncdn.com/media/motion/2016/0613/dm_160613_nba_ray_allen_3-pointer_chris_bosh_block/dm_160613_nba_ray_allen_3-pointer_chris_bosh_block.jpg

[3ball]

LeBron had a higher peak win share per 48 in the regular season

2013 LeBron WS/48 .322
91 Jordan WS/48 .321

So 2013 LeBron > Jordans entire career
MJ had higher win share period and higher peak in playoffs

And lebron's 13' championship run was only with 25.9 on 49%

MJ's worst to win a ring was 30.7 on 46%

So MJ's worst was 5 points better than lebron's

[coin24]

What about rebounds and assists in the Finals?



What about winning in the finals??

[Marchesk]

LeBron had a higher peak win share per 48 in the regular season

2013 LeBron WS/48 .322
91 Jordan WS/48 .321

So 2013 LeBron > Jordans entire career

And Wilt had .325 WS/48 in 63/64

So Wilt 64 > Lebron's entire career

https://cdn-s3.si.com/s3fs-public/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1002/rare.wilt.chamberlain.photos/images/0.wilt-chamberlain.4.jpg

[And1AllDay]

Lebron has BPM because he's a boxscore player

MJ was a winning player, hence him owning the win share per 48 stat.. and plus-minus.. and Player Efficiency Rating

Yikes 3baLLLLLLLLLLLL (lots of Ls)

I promise to you I am not even making these numbers up this is all real information found on bbal ref.

I promise LeBron is better then Jordan in every BPM stat as shown above

[And1AllDay]

LeBron had a higher peak win share per 48 in the regular season

2013 LeBron WS/48 .322
91 Jordan WS/48 .321

So 2013 LeBron > Jordans entire career

Wow Manny out here killin these fools

[superduper]

What about rebounds and assists in the Finals?

This loser asks the same nonsensical irrelevant shit over and over bro no matter how hard you try Bran will never be remotely close to GOAT just face it and move on with your life.

[And1AllDay]

This loser asks the same nonsensical irrelevant shit over and over bro no matter how hard you try Bran will never be remotely close to GOAT just face it and move on with your life.

BPM says otherwise bruh :pimp:

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[Duncan21formvp]

What about winning bronze medals and losing to Dwight Howard?

How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while having a 4x DPOY on his squad.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=454610&page=6

[Ainosterhaspie]

Lebron has BPM because he's a boxscore player

MJ was a winning player, hence him owning the win share per 48 stat.. and plus-minus.. and Player Efficiency Rating
As far as I know, those are all box score derived stats. Are you assuming one is about box score and one is about wins just because of the names? It doesn't work like that.

[And1AllDay]

What about winning bronze medals and losing to Dwight Howard?

How did Lebron James lose to a Career Loser in Dwight Howard with HCA while having a 4x DPOY on his squad.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=454610&page=6

Yikes did you hear Duncan lost as a #1 seed to a #8 seed which is the ultimate failure in NBA history :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Duncan21formvp]

Hell Lebron couldn't even beat Dwight Howard when Lebron had HCA.

[bigkingsfan]

Yikes did you hear Duncan lost as a #1 seed to a #8 seed which is the ultimate failure in NBA history :eek: :eek: :eek:
I never knew that, looks like Z-Bo dominated Duncan. :eek:

[And1AllDay]

I never knew that, looks like Z-Bo dominated Duncan. :eek:

Yeah its one of those moments Spurs fans try to sweep under the rug but we cant let them do that :cheers:

Duncan, the ultimate failure of NBA history

[Phenith]

A single stat doesn't and won't ever make 1 player greater than any other player overall.

[And1AllDay]

A single stat doesn't and won't ever make 1 player greater than any other player overall.

True, just something to bring up thou

Tryna keep YouTube MJ fans on notice :rockon: