Michael Jordan had an incredible amount of great games

[AussieSteve]

Regular Season

Most games over 30 GmSc
1. Jordan 257
2. LeBron 167
3. Barkley 142
4. Malone 139

Most games over 35 GmSc
1. Jordan 126
2. LeBron 56
3. Bird 50
4. Barkley 49

Most games over 40 GmSc
1. Jordan 49
2. LeBron 19
3. Bird 16
4. Robinson 13

(NB: 19+16+13=48... Jordan > LeBron + Bird + Robinson)


Playoffs

Most games over 30 GmSc
1. Jordan 48
2. LeBron 46
3. Shaq 25
4. Hakeem 22

Most games over 35 GmSc
1. LeBron 23
2. Jordan 22
3. Barkley 11
4. Hakeem 9

Most games over 40 GmSc
1. Jordan 7
2. LeBron 6
3. Barkley 3
4. Dirk 3

Given that Jordan played 100+ less RS games and 60 less PO games than LeBron has, he has so many all time great games that its almost unfathomable for someone who wasn't around at the time to see it.

[Manny98]

Jordan and LeBron are above everyone else by a massive margin :bowdown:

[3ball]

Regular Season

Most games over 30 GmSc
1. Jordan 257
2. LeBron 167
3. Barkley 142
4. Malone 139

Most games over 35 GmSc
1. Jordan 126
2. LeBron 56
3. Bird 50
4. Barkley 49

Most games over 40 GmSc
1. Jordan 49
2. LeBron 19
3. Bird 16
4. Robinson 13

(NB: 19+16+13=48... Jordan > LeBron + Bird + Robinson)


Playoffs

Most games over 30 GmSc
1. Jordan 48
2. LeBron 46
3. Shaq 25
4. Hakeem 22

Most games over 35 GmSc
1. LeBron 23
2. Jordan 22
3. Barkley 11
4. Hakeem 9

Most games over 40 GmSc
1. Jordan 7
2. LeBron 6
3. Barkley 3
4. Dirk 3

Given that Jordan played 100+ less RS games and 60 less PO games than LeBron has, he has so many all time great games that its almost unfathomable for someone who wasn't around at the time to see it.
Had to highlight that

[kennethgriffen]

i don't really understand all these analytics


1 point scored = 1 point towards your game score



ok that make sense.. but then some random guy who created this shit decided that each offensive rebound and assist are worth 0.7 points



but 1 free throw made is only worth 0.4 points... how can 1 LITERAL 100% factual point only be worth 0.4 points



and how can a field goal made count as 0.4? aren't the points already factored in. why are they factored in AGAIN?


and why is a free throw attempt worth -0.4 regardless if you make it or not


so making a free throw and taking one literally cancels itself out


what????


i'm serious.. see for yourself




https://captaincalculator.com/sports/basketball/game-score-calculator/



analytics are for retards

[AussieSteve]

i don't really understand all these analytics


1 point scored = 1 point towards your game score



ok that make sense.. but then some random guy who created this shit decided that each offensive rebound and assist are worth 0.7 points



but 1 free throw made is only worth 0.4 points... how can 1 LITERAL 100% factual point only be worth 0.4 points



and how can a field goal made count as 0.4? aren't the points already factored in. why are they factored in AGAIN?


and why is a free throw attempt worth -0.4 regardless if you make it or not


so making a free throw and taking one literally cancels itself out


what????


i'm serious.. see for yourself




https://captaincalculator.com/sports/basketball/game-score-calculator/



analytics are for retards


Field goals and free throws aren't included in the formula to reward players for making shots on top of the points themselves, they're included so that players can be penalized for missing shots.

- If you shoot 1/2 for 2 points, your net GmSc is 1.0
- If you shoot 1/1 for 2 points your net GmSc is 1.7.

this makes sense to me.

Its why Kobe doesn't figure near the top of these lists, because he missed a lot more shots than Jordan, LeBron etc. and GmSc rewards efficiency and penalizes inefficiency.

[Gileraracer]

Jordan and LeBron are above everyone else by a massive margin :bowdown:

Unfortunately not in rings... at least one of them :(

[colts19]

Jordan and LeBron are above everyone else by a massive margin :bowdown:
Actually Jordan leads LeBron James by a massive margin.

[FKAri]

Actually Jordan leads LeBron James by a massive margin.
Not in the playoffs. Looks like MJ's the king of the regular season.

[Gileraracer]

Not in the playoffs. Looks like MJ's the king of the regular season.

Yeah, definitely :roll:



https://images-eu.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41p6VwVr9FL.jpg

[colts19]

Not in the playoffs. Looks like MJ's the king of the regular season.
He is equal to James and played 60 less games. He also has the ball in his hands more than Jordan.

[Hey Yo]

He is equal to James and played 60 less games. He also has the ball in his hands more than Jordan.
That's cause he quit the league in his prime for almost 2yrs so he could rest up mentally and physically. His stats are nothing but * after the 1994 season.

[kennethgriffen]

Field goals and free throws aren't included in the formula to reward players for making shots on top of the points themselves, they're included so that players can be penalized for missing shots.

- If you shoot 1/2 for 2 points, your net GmSc is 1.0
- If you shoot 1/1 for 2 points your net GmSc is 1.7.

this makes sense to me.

Its why Kobe doesn't figure near the top of these lists, because he missed a lot more shots than Jordan, LeBron etc. and GmSc rewards efficiency and penalizes inefficiency.


its retarded.. if you go 10 for 10 at the free throw line you get no extra gamescore


its a 0.0


but for every one you miss you get a -0.4


makes so ****ing sense



shouldn't every make be worth +0.4 DERP!





and get this... i also put 1 fg made with 1 fg attempted... that automatically gave me a -0.3


:roll:


so the more you shoot you automatically will have a worse gamescore



BULLLLLLLSHIIIIIIIIIT


analytics are trash

[superduper]

i don't really understand all these analytics


1 point scored = 1 point towards your game score



ok that make sense.. but then some random guy who created this shit decided that each offensive rebound and assist are worth 0.7 points



but 1 free throw made is only worth 0.4 points... how can 1 LITERAL 100% factual point only be worth 0.4 points



and how can a field goal made count as 0.4? aren't the points already factored in. why are they factored in AGAIN?


and why is a free throw attempt worth -0.4 regardless if you make it or not


so making a free throw and taking one literally cancels itself out


what????


i'm serious.. see for yourself




https://captaincalculator.com/sports/basketball/game-score-calculator/



analytics are for retards

This is literally every advanced stat.

And you have these Bran stans spewing this nonsense over and over like they know anything about Basketball :roll:

GameScore!! VORP!!! WS!!!!!!

BPM!!!!!! :mad:

[SamuraiSWISH]

He is equal to James and played 60 less games. He also has the ball in his hands more than Jordan.
Exactly

[Nash]

Regular Season

Most games over 30 GmSc
1. Jordan 257
2. LeBron 167
3. Barkley 142
4. Malone 139

Most games over 35 GmSc
1. Jordan 126
2. LeBron 56
3. Bird 50
4. Barkley 49

Most games over 40 GmSc
1. Jordan 49
2. LeBron 19
3. Bird 16
4. Robinson 13

(NB: 19+16+13=48... Jordan > LeBron + Bird + Robinson)


Playoffs

Most games over 30 GmSc
1. Jordan 48
2. LeBron 46
3. Shaq 25
4. Hakeem 22

Most games over 35 GmSc
1. LeBron 23
2. Jordan 22
3. Barkley 11
4. Hakeem 9

Most games over 40 GmSc
1. Jordan 7
2. LeBron 6
3. Barkley 3
4. Dirk 3

Given that Jordan played 100+ less RS games and 60 less PO games than LeBron has, he has so many all time great games that its almost unfathomable for someone who wasn't around at the time to see it.
Also had to highlight that MJ did it in the most watered down era of basketball.

[sixerfan82]

Being the GOAT, this isn't surprising.

Jordan played 14 seasons in the NBA, earning every major award.

[Rocket]

Well duh, the GOAT obviously had a lot of great games.

[Psileas]

1) What periods does this list cover?
2) If this list is supposed to be some "measurement on GOAT", what does this mean about Barkley?

[AussieSteve]

its retarded.. if you go 10 for 10 at the free throw line you get no extra gamescore


its a 0.0


but for every one you miss you get a -0.4


makes so ****ing sense



shouldn't every make be worth +0.4 DERP!





and get this... i also put 1 fg made with 1 fg attempted... that automatically gave me a -0.3


:roll:


so the more you shoot you automatically will have a worse gamescore



BULLLLLLLSHIIIIIIIIIT


analytics are trash

Just because you don't understand it, doesn't make it stupid.

10 for 10 from the line gives you 10 GmSc poitns. Every make is worth 1 point. Makes sense to me.

1 for 1 from the field gives you 1.7 GmSc points.

You are rewarded for scoring but penalised for how many possessions you use to get you ponts.

If someone scores 20 points on 10 fga, they get 17 GmSc points. If they score 20 points on 20 fga, they get 10 GmSc points. You may disagree on the exact weighting but it is directionally logical.

Take the exact numbers with a grain of salt, sure. But imo it provides a decent guide. Figures that a Kobe stan would dislike analytics though.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Just because you don't understand it, doesn't make it stupid.

10 for 10 from the line gives you 10 GmSc poitns. Every make is worth 1 point. Makes sense to me.

1 for 1 from the field gives you 1.7 GmSc points.

You are rewarded for scoring but penalised for how many possessions you use to get you ponts.

If someone scores 20 points on 10 fga, they get 17 GmSc points. If they score 20 points on 20 fga, they get 10 GmSc points. You may disagree on the exact weighting but it is directionally logical.

Take the exact numbers with a grain of salt, sure. But imo it provides a decent guide. Figures that a Kobe stan would dislike analytics though.
Agreed. It’s actually a really great stat detailing box score statistical production. Not that I would ever mention it amongst casuals. But def.

[AussieSteve]

Also had to highlight that MJ did it in the most watered down era of basketball.

Nah. Mid-late 90s was watered down, but most of Jordans best games came during the late 80s and early 90s. This period was pretty stacked historically.

[AussieSteve]

1) What periods does this list cover?
2) If this list is supposed to be some "measurement on GOAT", what does this mean about Barkley?

1) From 1983
2) Peak Barkley was right up there with the greatest. Also he was extremely efficient, so the stats love him.

[Young X]

Also had to highlight that MJ did it in the most watered down era of basketball.He dropped 49 against the '86 Celtics in game 1...then dropped 63 in game 2 right after.

Dropped b2b 50 point games, then another 40 point game in another series.

^ Both in the 80's.

[SamuraiSWISH]

He dropped 49 against the '86 Celtics in game 1...then dropped 63 in game 2 right after.

Dropped b2b 50 point games, then another 40 point game in another series.

^ Both in the 80's.
Seriously, his PPG averages from 1995 to 1998, while being past his prime and what is essentially the most grueling, low scoring, physical, grind it out defensive eras of basketball is proof.

Watered down my ass.

There was some absolutely all time great teams in the late 80s, particularly the Boston Celtics team sophomore Jordan torched. But the 90s was a way more difficult and physical defensive era. Well into the early 2000’s.

I actually think 1988 to 1994 is the perfect blend of basketball. Varying styles. Low post, perimeter play. Physicality. Defense, high scoring teams. The next best thing to it is probably the 2008 to 2014 era.

[superduper]

There's a reason this guy is the undisputed GOAT

[72-10]

Thanks for bringing this up.

30 = the type of game we'd remember
35 = yeah, I think I remember the date, opponent, arena, channel, etc.
40 = legendary

[72-10]

Everyone thinks all of these games involve constantly attacking the basket. There's all kinds of MJ games here where he was making all kinds of bizarre fallaways falling away from the basket from mid-range, especially in the early 90s. And the late 90s games rely on the fadeaway primarily.

[SamuraiSWISH]

There's a reason this guy is the undisputed GOAT
There’s a reason LeBron wears his number, wears his shoes off the court, and says he’s chasing the ghost from Chicago :pimp:

[72-10]

1) What periods does this list cover?
2) If this list is supposed to be some "measurement on GOAT", what does this mean about Barkley?

It means the metric works out well for Barkley, probably heavily weighting efficient scoring and rebounding. If they had a Game Score for all of history, players like Wilt and Kareem would probably do very well. I don't know who could deny that efficient scoring is the most important thing, but there's no way to factor in skill level, such as the difference between taking a contested six-foot teardrop in the lane and a contested jump shot from 18 feet.

[AussieSteve]

It means the metric works out well for Barkley, probably heavily weighting efficient scoring and rebounding. If they had a Game Score for all of history, players like Wilt and Kareem would probably do very well. I don't know who could deny that efficient scoring is the most important thing, but there's no way to factor in skill level, such as the difference between taking a contested six-foot teardrop in the lane and a contested jump shot from 18 feet.

Peak Barkley is the most efficient volume scorer of all time.

It was not uncommon for him to score 30 points on 15fga, which lends itself to a high game score. So you're right there.

Chuck averaged 26.0ppg on 60%efg and 66%ts over his best 5 seasons at Philly, which is nuts. Especially considering the no-spacing era he did it in.