Lebron went to his first finals at age 23...

[keep-itreal]

carrying this roster....https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-WkOTNXgAA58Z5.jpg

unbelievable.....:bowdown: :bowdown:

[kennethgriffen]

and all he had to do was beat an older pistons team that was missing their perennial DPOTY center while getting a free pass in the other 2 rounds only to get their ass's swept in the finals


the cavs weren't all that bad. they were built on rebounding/defense/three point shooting and all lebron needed was to get hot for 1 week to make the finals after coasting the entire season



not impressed... imagine if it was like that in the west and all kobe had to do in 2006 was beat the phoenix suns then coast through 2 sh*t teams


and he would have if not for a tim thomas bail out



meh

[34-24 Footwork]

Kobe got Shannon Brown 2 rings :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Spurs m8]

So?

Kawhi at age 22 went to the finals and actually won, whilst also collecting fmvp, against this overrated bum you're talking about and his roided up collusion buddies...whilst playing with 3 corpses and role players.

End.fvcking.thread.

[Real14]

But he got swept and had an all star named Big Z. Iverson in 01 had a worse team anyway.

[SpaceJam]

But he got swept and had an all star named Big Z. Iverson in 01 had a worse team anyway.

2001 76ers awards

Most Valuable Player
Coach of the Year
Sixth Man of the Year
Defense Player of the Year
3x Current/Former All Stars

Iverson's run that season was overrated.

Should have ended Game 7 in the 2nd round against the Raptors, would have too if McKie didn't bail him out

A.I. - 21 points 8/27 .296% FG

McKie 22 points 8/16 .500% FG

The ECFs that year is also one of the most underrated rigged series in history

[Gileraracer]

Best years:


Hughes: 23/6/4/2/1
Ilgauskas: 17/8/2/2/1
Wesley: 17/4/7/2
Marshall: 15/9/2/1/1
Varejao: 14/14/3/2/1
Gooden: 14/9/2/1/1
Gibson: 12/3/3/1
Jones: 12/3/4/1
Snow: 13/4/7/2
Brown: 11/3/2/1


Thanks for reminding us how stacked Lebrons teams where since forever :eek:

Without Lebron they where 10 potential double digit scorers :eek:

[SpaceJam]

Best years:


Hughes: 23/6/4/2/1
Ilgauskas: 17/8/2/2/1
Wesley: 17/4/7/2
Marshall: 15/9/2/1/1
Varejao: 14/14/3/2/1
Gooden: 14/9/2/1/1
Gibson: 12/3/3/1
Jones: 12/3/4/1
Snow: 13/4/7/2
Brown: 11/3/2/1


Thanks for reminding us how stacked Lebrons teams where since forever :eek:

Without Lebron they where 10 potential double digit scorers :eek:

Best years...

13/6/1
17/3/2
13/9/2
20/9/3
18/4/6
23/3/5
25/6/3
18/3/2

I'll give you a clue....it's the 2015-16 season....they finished the season with a 17-65 record


Yeah that's right, Kobe's supporting cast his final year...why'd they finish dead last?! 8 double digit scorers, 3 20 point plus scorers...

KOBE LOOKING FUNNY IN THE LIGHT

Thanks for reminding us how much of an actual tard you are :eek:

[Gileraracer]

Best years...

13/6/1
17/3/2
13/9/2
20/9/3
18/4/6
23/3/5
25/6/3
18/3/2

I'll give you a clue....it's the 2015-16 season....they finished the season with a 17-65 record


Yeah that's right, Kobe's supporting cast his final year...why'd they finish dead last?! 8 double digit scorers, 3 20 point plus scorers...

KOBE LOOKING FUNNY IN THE LIGHT

Thanks for reminding us how much of an actual tard you are :eek:

Don't know but I also do not know why Lebron stans only reply is "but but but Kobe did the same :cry: "


I thought you do not want to compare Lebron to Kobe? :lol

[SpaceJam]

Don't know but I also do not know why Lebron stans only reply is "but but but Kobe did the same :cry: "


I thought you do not want to compare Lebron to Kobe? :lol

Could have done it for Kwame Brown for all I care, wanted to show you how idiotic your way of thinking is and what better way than to bring down your boy

[Gileraracer]

Could have done it for Kwame Brown for all I care, wanted to show you how idiotic your way of thinking is and what better way than to bring down your boy

You boys praised Lebron for reaching the finals in the weakest conference ever with 10 potential double digit scorers on his team and I proved you wrong again.


I don't get why Lebron stans even talk about those years, most of you didn't even know how to ride a bicycle in 2007.



Plus, no need to mention Kobe all the time. :confusedshrug:

[SpaceJam]

You boys praised Lebron for reaching the finals in the weakest conference ever with 10 potential double digit scorers on his team and I proved you wrong again.


I don't get why Lebron stans even talk about those years, most of you didn't even know how to ride a bicycle in 2007.



Plus, no need to mention Kobe all the time. :confusedshrug:

Bicycle riding and basketball, I'm trying to find the correlation...

By the way I've noticed you forgot to add Baron Davis' best years to your calculations...was 2007 the year he played with Bron?


:roll: :roll:

- Shaq
- Dwyane Wade
- Ben Wallace
- Ray Allen
- Kyrie Irving
- Kevin Love
- Deron Williams
- Derrick Rose
- Chris Bosh
- Jerry Stackhouse
- Baron Davis


:roll: :roll:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13268913&postcount=5

5 star the thread also.

[Gileraracer]

was 2007 the year he played with Bron?



I relied on OPs picture, guess you know how to use bballreference yourself :confusedshrug:

[zeerghit]

I relied on OPs picture, guess you know how to use bballreference yourself :confusedshrug:
u such a potato:roll: ur posts never make any sense, whats the point?

[sixerfan82]

So?

Kawhi at age 22 went to the finals and actually won, whilst also collecting fmvp, against this overrated bum you're talking about and his roided up collusion buddies...whilst playing with 3 corpses and role players.

End.fvcking.thread.

kawhi had what we can all assume to be 3 HOF's on his team. They were albeit past their primes, but lets be real here :)

[Andrei89]

So?

Kawhi at age 22 went to the finals and actually won, whilst also collecting fmvp, against this overrated bum you're talking about and his roided up collusion buddies...whilst playing with 3 corpses and role players.

End.fvcking.thread.

Do you even think before you start writing garbage?:lol

[BigShotBob]

Didn't Boobie Gibson score like 38 points to get the Cavs to the Finals?

[PP34Deuce]

ISH gets worse and worse..... Trolls are funny but emotional trolls are dangerous to humanity and sad.

[Real14]

Didn't Boobie Gibson score like 38 points to get the Cavs to the Finals?
Facts. Another closer for Lebron.

[Spurs m8]

Do you even think before you start writing garbage?:lol

Point out where I'm wrong you fvckin dvmbcvnt....

[3ball]

Bicycle riding and basketball, I'm trying to find the correlation...

By the way I've noticed you forgot to add Baron Davis' best years to your calculations...was 2007 the year he played with Bron?



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13268913&postcount=5

5 star the thread also.

2007 Cavs:. #7 SRS.. 50 wins.. 2 seed
2007 tDET:. #6 SRS.. 53 wins.. 1 seed

2018 Cavs:. #14 SRS.. 50 wins.. 4 seed
2018 tTOR:.lt #2 SRS.. 59 wins.. 1 seed

1989 Bulls:. #10 SRS.. 47 wins.. 6 seed
1989 Cavs:. n#1 SRS.. 57 wins.. 3 seed


^^^ Jordan's 89' upset matches lebron's 18', and both exceed 07'... But MJ did more with less, since his 6 seed took the champs 6 games, while lebron's 2 and 4 seeds had record sweeps.

Also, MJ only lost to 1 and 2 seeds as the underdog, while lebron lost to a couple 3 seeds and a 4 seed, all as the heavy favorite.. so MJ did more with less

Finally,


Jordan 1989:. 33/8/8.. 47 wins
Lebron 2007:. 27/7/7.. 50 wins
Lebron 2009:. 28/8/7.. 66 wins

^^^^ This was the case every year from 85-89 versus 06-10, where MJ's greater stats resulted in lesser wins.. the only explanation for lebron getting more wins with less stats is that his better cast made up the gap

[3ball]

And the goat Finals run was the Knicks in 99', who were a hopeless 8 seed.. lebron was a 2 seed... All-time great performance in game 5 though - that's what sort of overrated the actual upset.. lebron won that series with 25 ppg

[sixerfan82]

And the goat Finals run was the Knicks in 99', who were a hopeless 8 seed.. lebron was a 2 seed... All-time great performance in game 5 though - that's what sort of overrated the actual upset.. lebron won that series with 25 ppg

Was that the year Ewing went down and Houston/Sprewell got them to the 8th seed and then he came back?

[bigkingsfan]

Compared to prime MJ losing in the 2nd round to a team that was swept in the finals.

[SouBeachTalents]

And the goat Finals run was the Knicks in 99', who were a hopeless 8 seed.. lebron was a 2 seed... All-time great performance in game 5 though - that's what sort of overrated the actual upset.. lebron won that series with 25 ppg
I'd never dispute that wasn't an awesome run, but the Knicks were far from your typical 8 seed. They had been a perennial ECSF/ECF team for nearly a decade, and had the season been 82 games I'd be shocked if they remained in the 8 spot

[3ball]

I'd never dispute that wasn't an awesome run, but the Knicks were far from your typical 8 seed. They had been a perennial ECSF/ECF team for nearly a decade, and had the season been 82 games I'd be shocked if they remained in the 8 spot
Sounds like lebron's 18' Cavs - yet you still give them props for making the Finals

That's where stats can be deceiving - the stats in post #21 above say that lebron's 18' run was a bigger upset than his 07'... but like you said - lebron's team was 7-time, defending conference champs that had a tumultuous RS..

so lebron's 07' run with a young, inexperienced team was far tougher than his 18' run with a bunch of experienced vets... And both were inferior to MJ's 89' run, as the stats show, as does circumstance (young, low seed)
.

['Toine=MVP]

It has been well documented that LeBron has had the easiest playoff opponents of all time. Cupcakes if you will including that 73 win team that proved to be one of the biggest cupcake finals teams ever.

[3ball]

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Change the thread title to: "Lebron first played a champion and #1 defense at 23:"



Jordan vs 86' Celts:.l 44 ppg on 59%
Lebron vs 07' Spurs:. 22 ppg on 36%

[superduper]

It has been well documented that LeBron has had the easiest playoff opponents of all time. Cupcakes if you will including that 73 win team that proved to be one of the biggest cupcake finals teams ever.

King James Harden is single handedly, by himself, proving that the GSW were highly over rated and nowhere close to this "unbeatable greatest team of all time that no one man can beat".

King James 1v9'd those fools including vs refs + Silver and still absolutely owned their souls.

There are no more excuses for our LeGOAT :(

[tpols]

.
Change the thread title to: "Lebron first played a champion and #1 defense at 23:"



Jordan vs 86' Celts:.l 44 ppg on 59%
Lebron vs 07' Spurs:. 22 ppg on 36%


didn't larry bird literally call Jordan God after that series?

I wonder what timmy thought of lebron after his.

[superduper]

.
Change the thread title to: "Lebron first played a champion and #1 defense at 23:"



Jordan vs 86' Celts:.l 44 ppg on 59%
Lebron vs 07' Spurs:. 22 ppg on 36%

God DAYUM.

And people can't make the "bu buh Bran was in the finals!!" excuse because everyone and their grandmas know that those '86 Celtics would absolutely wipe the floor with the '07 Spurs.

Check.....mate :rockon:

[TheCorporation]

2001 76ers awards

Most Valuable Player
Coach of the Year
Sixth Man of the Year
Defense Player of the Year
3x Current/Former All Stars

Iverson's run that season was overrated.

Should have ended Game 7 in the 2nd round against the Raptors, would have too if McKie didn't bail him out

A.I. - 21 points 8/27 .296% FG

McKie 22 points 8/16 .500% FG

The ECFs that year is also one of the most underrated rigged series in history


Bodied :applause:

[TheCorporation]

I relied on OPs picture, guess you know how to use bballreference yourself :confusedshrug:

I still remember reading your post where you said LeBron James played with Baron Davis :roll:

Think before you post. Read more, post less. Learn the game. Hello and welcome to the basketball forums we are here to help beginners such as yourself. If you have any questions please feel free to ask, we are here to help.

For starters: No, LeBron James did not play basketball with Baron Davis.

I repeat: Think before you post. Read more, post less.

[Duncan21formvp]

But he got swept and had an all star named Big Z. Iverson in 01 had a worse team anyway.
This and Big Z was an allstar before Lebron as well. In fact Lebron became an allstar because of Big Z. Big Z in 2003 made it and 2005 and then Lebron made it in 2005.

[BigShotBob]

didn't larry bird literally call Jordan God after that series?

I wonder what timmy thought of lebron after his.

This gave me a good laugh :oldlol:

[Real14]

This and Big Z was an allstar before Lebron as well. In fact Lebron became an allstar because of Big Z. Big Z in 2003 made it and 2005 and then Lebron made it in 2005.
All facts indeed:applause:

[Real14]

Bodied :applause:
Bodied how?:lol he just went to random stats.

[keep-itreal]

Lakers struggling without LeGOAT:(

[Spurs m8]

Lakers struggling without LeGOAT:(

Because they became reliant on cancer ball then he bailed.

[aj1987]

Because they became reliant on cancer ball then he bailed.
You desperately need mental help.

[And1AllDay]

You desperately need mental help.


+1 he sure does :oldlol: