View Full Version : The smarter you are, the slower time moves
Akrazotile
01-10-2019, 04:12 AM
This is one of those weird quirks of reality, but it's apparently true.
(backstory:) I find time dilation and Einstein's theory of special relativity so strange, and I sometimes randomly puzzle over it. It's really hard to understand/believe time is not standard, but tests seem to bear it out. The faster an object moves through space, the more slowly it experiences time. At light speed, time essentially stops. Most people have some kind of general familiarity with this concept.
But it got me to wondering: If you could absorb information at light speed, would time also stop? Imagine if you were able to read a book at the speed of light. You could read the entire catalogue of the New York Public Library in under an hour. You could master every skill on Earth in under a day. You could do a nearly infinite amount of things in less than a calendar year. Time would be completely meaningless.
I did some googling on the issue and it turns out... it's true. Not only that, but it isn't just a theoretical truth... it's a practical one. Someone who is very good at something absorbs and processes the information faster, and thus experiences time in a different way when doing it. For instance Michael Jordan playing basketball. He can so quickly process the position of the defender, the movement of the ball, etc. he's actually experiencing the game more slowly, and thus can play it more effectively. It's the same with anything else. If a kid absorbs a math lesson in 20 minutes, while another student needs an hour of tutoring to understand it... they've both accomplished the exact same task, but one of them has done so in less time. Meaning, time went slower.
So, yeah. Pretty crazy stuff. Next time you get the feeling time is getting away from you, or the years are whizzing by.... try picking up a book :lol
Im Still Ballin
01-10-2019, 04:43 AM
neo is really smart
Akrazotile
01-10-2019, 04:51 AM
neo is really smart
Yeah. But is he... BIG?
:milton
Ben Simmons 25
01-10-2019, 05:22 AM
1) Time doesn’t exist.
2) Thread title is false. It’s not how smart you are. It’s how your brain is growing/absorbing information. This is why, amongst other less applicable reasons, “time” seems to creep as a child. Your brain is absorbing more information and at a faster rate. But you’re certainly not smarter. As you age, indeed progressively more and more of existence itself imprints less and less as you’ve seen and experienced it all before... and... your brain is no longer physically growing.
fiddy
01-10-2019, 06:00 AM
No longer straight copypasta :applause:
https://www.space.com/36273-theory-special-relativity.html
Akrazotile
01-10-2019, 01:08 PM
[QUOTE=Ben Simmons 25]1) Time doesn
Akrazotile
01-10-2019, 01:20 PM
No longer straight copypasta :applause:
https://www.space.com/36273-theory-special-relativity.html
:oldlol:
I have 16,899 posts gypsy boy. You have FEVERISHLY scoured the internet 16,899 times looking for some way to bust me for forgery. And the best you can do is a webpage that explains special relativity, trying to spin it like I was taking credit for inventing e=mc2 in this thread :lol
16,899 times fiddy. Not a lot goin on in Bulgaria I guess :lol
tpols
01-10-2019, 02:03 PM
OP stuck on fast forward
fiddy
01-12-2019, 07:08 AM
OP stuck on fat forward
FTFY
Overdrive
01-12-2019, 07:59 AM
Also the heavier the object is, the slower time moves.
Ben Simmons 25
01-12-2019, 09:27 AM
The faster you do this... the smarter you are. That's the point. Whether you're an adult or a kid.
That's just utter nonsense.
You're not smarter as a 2 year old than you are as a 30 year old adult.
You aren't bleeding IQ points relative to your age from the moment you're born until the moment you die. Sure, a drop off starts to happen at some point but it's not at 10 years old nor is it at 20 or 30.
It has nothing to do with how smart you are. It has everything to do with your brain growth and inexperience. Time is moving faster for me in my mid 30s than it was in my mid 20s and it's not even close. The human mind stops development at 25. I'm smarter than I was at 25.
Let me put it another way... Forrest Gump at 5 years old would experience time in a much slower manner than you do at whatever current age you are. Was 5 year old Forrest Gump smarter than you are now, either in IQ or overall intellect? Please.
Nonsensical thread postulation.
I get the sense that this is a troll thread, especially given the nature of you, but I can't find the source material anywhere else. Oh well.
stalkerforlife
01-12-2019, 11:00 AM
Then why does time go so fast for me?
Get a job, OP; of course time goes slow when you don't stay busy.
Prometheus
01-12-2019, 11:12 AM
Except there is no simple measure of smart/dumb. Two people can each simultaneously be smarter than the other, just in different ways.
I tutored a guy who could divide three-digit numbers in his head with no issue. But he couldn't put together a simple volume integral. He was significantly smarter than I was at arithmetic, but comparably retarded at thinking geometrically.
I dated a girl who most would not consider smart. Not well-read, not particularly imaginative or deep... but her memory was like files on a hard drive. She had the best sense of direction I have ever seen in a person - she knew our hometown like most people will never know anything. I could name any street within a 10 mile radius and she could tell you what color each house was, and what kind of cars were usually parked there... for the whole street. In order.
My best friend is kind of dopey - a bit clumsy, forgetful, even inarticulate sometimes. But I will struggle with some issue in life for weeks, then when I speak to him the first thing out of his mouth will be fresh, insightful, and exactly the right perspective to help me out of whatever it was. He will wash his hands over prepping food because he's that oblivious, but he is great with people and is full of great ideas.
Time is measurable. "Smart" is not. So it can't really be a thing, even for a second.
Ben Simmons 25
01-12-2019, 11:35 AM
Except there is no simple measure of smart/dumb. Two people can each simultaneously be smarter than the other, just in different ways.
I tutored a guy who could divide three-digit numbers in his head with no issue. But he couldn't put together a simple volume integral. He was significantly smarter than I was at arithmetic, but comparably retarded at thinking geometrically.
I dated a girl who most would not consider smart. Not well-read, not particularly imaginative or deep... but her memory was like files on a hard drive. She had the best sense of direction I have ever seen in a person - she knew our hometown like most people will never know anything. I could name any street within a 10 mile radius and she could tell you what color each house was, and what kind of cars were usually parked there... for the whole street. In order.
My best friend is kind of dopey - a bit clumsy, forgetful, even inarticulate sometimes. But I will struggle with some issue in life for weeks, then when I speak to him the first thing out of his mouth will be fresh, insightful, and exactly the right perspective to help me out of whatever it was. He will wash his hands over prepping food because he's that oblivious, but he is great with people and is full of great ideas.
Time is measurable. "Smart" is not. So it can't really be a thing, even for a second.
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Prometheus
01-12-2019, 12:05 PM
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/10/bs2.gif
Normally I hate when people ask for things spelled out, but are you calling my post bullshit? Or am I Joe Pesci here?
bigkingsfan
01-12-2019, 12:35 PM
This is why I cryogenic sleep every night.
JEFFERSON MONEY
01-12-2019, 02:07 PM
Except there is no simple measure of smart/dumb. Two people can each simultaneously be smarter than the other, just in different ways.
I tutored a guy who could divide three-digit numbers in his head with no issue. But he couldn't put together a simple volume integral. He was significantly smarter than I was at arithmetic, but comparably retarded at thinking geometrically.
I dated a girl who most would not consider smart. Not well-read, not particularly imaginative or deep... but her memory was like files on a hard drive. She had the best sense of direction I have ever seen in a person - she knew our hometown like most people will never know anything. I could name any street within a 10 mile radius and she could tell you what color each house was, and what kind of cars were usually parked there... for the whole street. In order.
My best friend is kind of dopey - a bit clumsy, forgetful, even inarticulate sometimes. But I will struggle with some issue in life for weeks, then when I speak to him the first thing out of his mouth will be fresh, insightful, and exactly the right perspective to help me out of whatever it was. He will wash his hands over prepping food because he's that oblivious, but he is great with people and is full of great ideas.
Time is measurable. "Smart" is not. So it can't really be a thing, even for a second.
Agreed---excellent point.
And you brought up only math, navigation/memory, and wisdom/absentmindedness.
So many various intelligences out there with different aptitudes for each individual.
It gets even more varied when social skills and kinesthetic intelligence and business skills and abstract thinking are brought up :oldlol:
Akrazotile
01-12-2019, 02:42 PM
Agreed---excellent point.
And you brought up only math, navigation/memory, and wisdom/absentmindedness.
So many various intelligences out there with different aptitudes for each individual.
It gets even more varied when social skills and kinesthetic intelligence and business skills and abstract thinking are brought up :oldlol:
First of all: Stop agreeing with yourself.
Second of all: I already addressed this in the first post. It moves slower when someone can process and perform a specific function more quickly. Barry Bonds can process a baseball's trajectory with remarkable rapidity. Completing this process faster means time is moving slower for him while the ball is in the air. Just like when you move faster, time slows. I know it's counter intuitive but it aligns perfectly with the theory of special relativity, which has been proven through testing.
Just like some algebra nerd figuring out equations in his head quickfast, while posters here are picking their nose and trying to figure out what the phrase "square root" means. The first guy is actually experiencing time in a different way than stalker and co.
Obviously we're all similar as humans, so the difference from person to person isn't dramatic enough to actually PERCEIVE a change in time in measurable terms such as aging or whatever. The point is just that this does comport with physics. The smarter you are, either when performing a specific task, or just in general as a person, the more you slow down time.
Akrazotile
01-12-2019, 02:47 PM
That's just utter nonsense.
You're not smarter as a 2 year old than you are as a 30 year old adult.
You aren't bleeding IQ points relative to your age from the moment you're born until the moment you die. Sure, a drop off starts to happen at some point but it's not at 10 years old nor is it at 20 or 30.
It has nothing to do with how smart you are. It has everything to do with your brain growth and inexperience. Time is moving faster for me in my mid 30s than it was in my mid 20s and it's not even close. The human mind stops development at 25. I'm smarter than I was at 25.
Let me put it another way... Forrest Gump at 5 years old would experience time in a much slower manner than you do at whatever current age you are. Was 5 year old Forrest Gump smarter than you are now, either in IQ or overall intellect? Please.
Nonsensical thread postulation.
I get the sense that this is a troll thread, especially given the nature of you, but I can't find the source material anywhere else. Oh well.
What does this have to do with anything...? Did I say 2 year olds were smarter than 30 year olds?
A 30 year old experiences time more slowly because his brain is developed to process information at a faster speed (presumably, altho I don't know the science on brain development at 2 vs at 30.) I'm not talking about intelligence in terms of "how many facts you know." I'm talking about performing similar tasks relative to other people. And again, because we all share such similar DNA, it's not as if the difference in time perception is going to be great enough to perceive.
You have to understand that time is relative. Time does not exist as an absolute. You can only experience time in relation to something else. Relative to a tree. Relative to a moving train. Relative to another person. If there is nothing around you except black space, no sun, no planets, no wind, no people, just empty black space everywhere... there is no such thing as time.
When you and someone else do the same exact thing, but you do it twice as fast... you have more time left over. That means you experience time more slowly than they do.
It's a fact.
Ben Simmons 25
01-12-2019, 03:02 PM
Yeah but a 30 year old definitely doesn't experience time more slowly than a 5 year old... not even close. It's just not true.
Maybe as it pertains to danger, but overall? No way. When I was a kid, my years crept by REAL ****ing slow... school years lasted forever... summers lasted forever... as an adult, they have gotten SIGNIFICANTLY progressively "faster".
Akrazotile
01-12-2019, 03:09 PM
Yeah but a 30 year old definitely doesn't experience time more slowly than a 5 year old... not even close. It's just not true.
Maybe as it pertains to danger, but overall? No way. When I was a kid, my years crept by REAL ****ing slow... as an adult, they have gotten progressively "faster".
Breh. I'm not talking about psychological perception of how fast your life is going by. That's got nothing to do with physics.
I'm talking about actual physical interaction with the dimension of time. When you perform the same task as someone else, whether it's hitting a baseball or taking a geometry test, the person who does it correctly faster... is slowing down time relative to the other person.
That's what I'm referring to. An apples to apples comparison of one person to another doing the same activity.
Ben Simmons 25
01-12-2019, 03:13 PM
Barry Bonds being able to hit a major league fastball five thousand times better than me does not make him more intelligent than myself. It means that his hand eye coordination is better, specifically as it pertains to swinging a bat and hitting a ball, if not just better hand eye coordination overall. It has nothing to do with his overall underlying intelligence.
Unless you want to break intelligence down into dozens or more of sub categories.
Akrazotile
01-12-2019, 03:15 PM
Let me put it to you this way:
Let's say you're up to bat. And as soon as the pitch is thrown, you've diagnosed it's trajectory and know how to hit it out of the park.
Let's say someone else is up to bat. It takes them the entire time of the pitch to size it up and know how to hit it.
Well you both still have to wait for the pitch to get to the plate to hit it, right? So what's the difference?
But let's say both players have the ability to move at light speed. The first player, who sizes up the pitch immediately, can then leave the park and get coffee, visit his parents, write a dissertation, pickup litter at the local park, and come back to the plate and hit the baseball.
But the other player, who can MOVE at light speed as well, still needs all that time to mentally size up the pitch first before hitting it. So he doesnt get to grab coffee, visit his parents, write a dissertation, pick up litter, etc.
The mental faculties of the first player ENABLED him to create more time.
Do you get it?
Akrazotile
01-12-2019, 03:18 PM
Barry Bonds being able to hit a major league fastball five thousand times better than me does not make him more intelligent than myself. It means that his hand eye coordination is better, specifically as it pertains to swinging a bat and hitting a ball, if not just better hand eye coordination overall. It has nothing to do with his overall underlying intelligence.
Unless you want to break intelligence down into dozens or more of sub categories.
Barry Bonds is definitely smarter than you on the baseball diamond.
Maybe you're smarter than him in other situations.
It doesn't matter. When your brain processes faster in a given situation, you're create time. If you want to be pedantic about my broad use of the word "intelligence" that's fine. That isn't really the point of the thread. If on aggregate you're more intelligent across a group of functions that are typical for the average human, then yes, in general you will slow down time.
Ben Simmons 25
01-12-2019, 03:21 PM
Ok but that has absolutely nothing to do with what I just said in reference to Bonds nor does it prove that the player who ran off and wrote a dissertation is a smarter individual than the guy who is still waiting at the plate.
One's ability to do something extremely well and way more quickly than someone else does not speak anything as it amounts to overall intelligence level.
Barry Bonds being able to hit fastballs better than me may mean that his brain processes how to hit the fastball more quickly, but that statement does not say anything about his overall intelligence. Just his fastball hitting intelligence.
Ben Simmons 25
01-12-2019, 03:22 PM
Barry Bonds is definitely smarter than you on the baseball diamond.
Maybe you're smarter than him in other situations.
It doesn't matter. When your brain processes faster in a given situation, you're create time. If you want to be pedantic about my broad use of the word "intelligence" that's fine. That isn't really the point of the thread. If on aggregate you're more intelligent across a group of functions that are typical for the average human, then yes, in general you will slow down time.
No, you haven't slowed down time. You've just performed the process more quickly. Now you're talking about what I was talking about or the "psychological perception" of time.
This is all bullshit anyways because time doesn't exist. It's something we made up to feel better about life and as reference for communication and navigation.
Akrazotile
01-12-2019, 03:23 PM
Ok but that has absolutely nothing to do with what I just said in reference to Bonds nor does it prove that the player who ran off and wrote a dissertation is a smarter individual than the guy who is still waiting at the plate.
One's ability to do something extremely well and way more quickly than someone else does not speak anything as it amounts to overall intelligence level.
Barry Bonds being able to hit fastballs better than me may mean that his brain processes how to hit the fastball more quickly, but that statement does not say anything about his overall intelligence. Just his fastball hitting intelligence.
I'll put it to you another way:
I've already comprehended this concept and understand how it works. I'm going to go out and take a walk.
You sit here for a while and think about it.
Ben Simmons 25
01-12-2019, 03:24 PM
I'll put it to you another way:
I've already comprehended this concept and understand how it works. I'm going to go out and take a walk.
You sit here for a while and think about it.
:oldlol:
tpols
01-12-2019, 04:04 PM
Yeah but a 30 year old definitely doesn't experience time more slowly than a 5 year old... not even close. It's just not true.
Maybe as it pertains to danger, but overall? No way. When I was a kid, my years crept by REAL ****ing slow... school years lasted forever... summers lasted forever... as an adult, they have gotten SIGNIFICANTLY progressively "faster".
thats because the proportion of one year or summer out of your whole life when you're 5 is 20%, where as now a year is like 3-4%
Akrazotile
01-12-2019, 04:54 PM
OP stuck on fast forward
That's exactly right. I am slowing down time around me by moving much faster relative to it.
You bungling insults by inadvertently making them compliments only speeds me up :rockon:
Akrazotile
01-12-2019, 04:56 PM
FTFY
fiddy causes time around him to surpass the speed of light :lol
tpols
01-12-2019, 07:11 PM
That's exactly right. I am slowing down time around me by moving much faster relative to it.
You bungling insults by inadvertently making them compliments only speeds me up :rockon:
It took you 2 days to come up with a retort :roll:
Lightspeed my *****!
Overdrive
01-12-2019, 07:25 PM
Let me put it to you this way:
Let's say you're up to bat. And as soon as the pitch is thrown, you've diagnosed it's trajectory and know how to hit it out of the park.
Let's say someone else is up to bat. It takes them the entire time of the pitch to size it up and know how to hit it.
Well you both still have to wait for the pitch to get to the plate to hit it, right? So what's the difference?
But let's say both players have the ability to move at light speed. The first player, who sizes up the pitch immediately, can then leave the park and get coffee, visit his parents, write a dissertation, pickup litter at the local park, and come back to the plate and hit the baseball.
But the other player, who can MOVE at light speed as well, still needs all that time to mentally size up the pitch first before hitting it. So he doesnt get to grab coffee, visit his parents, write a dissertation, pick up litter, etc.
The mental faculties of the first player ENABLED him to create more time.
Do you get it?
If you leave the inertial at speed of light time will pass faster in the stadium.
The pitch will be long done when you're back. Also acceleration and decceleration are a thing.
If you travel at the speed of light you can travel to the future without aging much.
The outside observer feels like you don't age. In your inertial a year still feels like a year.
Same for reading books.
Rocket
01-13-2019, 12:55 PM
The older you get the faster time goes by. I can say that from experience!
AlternativeAcc.
01-13-2019, 10:25 PM
The quicker you can process stimuli during a given task, the slower time goes for you relative to people who can't process it as quickly
Barry sees the ball and makes a decision in a fraction of a second, to what him feels like a bigger amount of time than it actually was
egokiller
01-13-2019, 10:48 PM
But what if you went with the
Akrazotile
01-14-2019, 12:38 AM
It took you 2 days to come up with a retort :roll:
Lightspeed my *****!
Oh yeah?
Well the jerk store called, and they're running out of YOU!
Akrazotile
01-14-2019, 12:45 AM
If you leave the inertial at speed of light time will pass faster in the stadium.
The pitch will be long done when you're back. Also acceleration and decceleration are a thing.
If you travel at the speed of light you can travel to the future without aging much.
The outside observer feels like you don't age. In your inertial a year still feels like a year.
Same for reading books.
That's not the point. The physics involved in actually running around a city at the speed of light aren't germane to the point itself. Obviously it's not something anyone could actually physically do. But it illustrates the concept that information accumulation and processing can be done at varying speeds. "Speed" itself is an expression of time which we typically associate with observable physical movement, but that isn't its only application. Mental speed is also an expression of time, and thus relative. Faster mental speed is a reduction of time when compared to slower mental speed.
diamenz
01-14-2019, 01:21 AM
Oh yeah?
Well the jerk store called, and they're running out of YOU!
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