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AirTupac
01-10-2019, 09:22 AM
https://i.ibb.co/BypLSQC/49723909-10106454102583762-6776361402606026752-o.jpg

What does this mean?

FireDavidKahn
01-10-2019, 09:27 AM
That they can't win games.

AirTupac
01-10-2019, 09:32 AM
That they can't win games.

Sure when 3 starters are out. Teams lose games. Lakers win 2 of the games they lost the last 2 weeks EASILY with Kuzma or Rondo back :oldlol:


You think 21 year old BI and 3 guys who cant make a shot will win games in the 4th?

LOL 0 basketball logic

SpaceJam
01-10-2019, 09:34 AM
They were 10th with him...so a drop off of 8

However, they were 15th in offensive rating...they are now 26th with Bron

Ironically .1 ahead of the Cavaliers

Lakers 104.5 ORTG
Cavs 104.4 ORTG

AirTupac
01-10-2019, 09:52 AM
They were 10th with him...so a drop off of 8

However, they were 15th in offensive rating...they are now 26th with Bron

Ironically .1 ahead of the Cavaliers

Lakers 104.5 ORTG
Cavs 104.4 ORTG

Yeah.... when Rondo and Kuzma go out as well :facepalm

tpols
01-10-2019, 09:59 AM
That they can't win games.


They lost kuzma for a couple of the losses, don't be dishonest.

When your third option can drop 40.... you're stacked.

Manny98
01-10-2019, 10:00 AM
3-5

AirTupac
01-10-2019, 10:01 AM
3-5

With Kuzma they would be 6-2 :roll:

3 close call games....

SpaceJam
01-10-2019, 10:02 AM
Yeah.... when Rondo and Kuzma go out as well :facepalm

That's fair, forgot about Rondo

r0drig0lac
01-10-2019, 10:39 AM
What does this mean?
https://media.tenor.com/images/0190735f258a875129188467f138aa72/tenor.gif

AirTupac
01-10-2019, 10:41 AM
https://media.tenor.com/images/0190735f258a875129188467f138aa72/tenor.gif


But the Lakers are back to being a good defensive team at the same time Bron is out? Why?


WHY?

tpols
01-10-2019, 10:44 AM
But the Lakers are back to being a good defensive team at the same time Bron is out? Why?


WHY?


Hart is a much better defender than LeBron and the whole team is playing with more energy and chemistry.

atljonesbro
01-10-2019, 10:44 AM
You’re telling me LeBron is on ANOTHER stacked team? That defense is insane. He has no excuses if he doesn’t win a championship

AirTupac
01-10-2019, 10:46 AM
Hart is a much better defender than LeBron and the whole team is playing with more energy and chemistry.


That is pretty telling considering Hart is a poor man to man defender on the perimeter but still a + compared to Bron's on ball defense :eek:

Dray n Klay
01-10-2019, 10:47 AM
Cool, what

AirTupac
01-10-2019, 10:51 AM
[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]Cool, what

FKAri
01-10-2019, 10:51 AM
But the Lakers are back to being a good defensive team at the same time Bron is out? Why?


WHY?
LeCoach. Luke on thin ice :applause:

Trollsmasher
01-10-2019, 11:59 AM
JaVale is back

They were already top 5 before he got injured

AirTupac
01-10-2019, 12:14 PM
Or maybe its the guy that coasts on D ....

AirTupac
01-10-2019, 02:35 PM
Can someone tell me why LeBron "CAN GUARD ALL POSITIONS" James is having this impact

bison
01-10-2019, 02:41 PM
Rogers? Talking like you're from L.A. but your stupid ass has been living in Canada this whole time :oldlol:

Too bad. I was looking forward to decking the shit out of you if I ever came across you here.

AirTupac
01-10-2019, 02:43 PM
Rogers? Talking like you're from L.A. but your stupid ass has been living in Canada this whole time :oldlol:

Too bad. I was looking forward to decking the shit out of you if I ever came across you here.


Its a screenshot of someones post you retard :facepalm

superduper
01-10-2019, 02:47 PM
[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]Cool, what

AirTupac
01-10-2019, 02:49 PM
Rondo/Kuzma/other injuries and Lakers lost to 2 of the greatest game winners ever seen in history.

They should literally be 6-2 or 7-1 if not for injuries and flukes.

Kuzma already better than Pippen ever been and they have a top 2 defense in the entire league.

This is easily a 60 win team without Bran.

It'd be a playoff team thats the bare minimum

superduper
01-10-2019, 02:59 PM
DAMN crazy how LeGOAT is making this team play at an extremely high defensive level. On or off the court our LeGOAT manages to always will his team to the top of the league.

How does he do it?! :eek:

LeGOAT!!

NBASTATMAN
01-10-2019, 03:10 PM
Sure when 3 starters are out. Teams lose games. Lakers win 2 of the games they lost the last 2 weeks EASILY with Kuzma or Rondo back :oldlol:


You think 21 year old BI and 3 guys who cant make a shot will win games in the 4th?

LOL 0 basketball logic


But when Kobe and Bynum missed games the Lakers kept winning.. EXPLAIN PLEASE :roll:


THE LAKERS HAVE PLAYED 2 games vs Playoff teams and they are 3-5 without Bron... If you want to talk about Kuzma they are 3-3 with him in and Lebron out..

AirTupac
01-10-2019, 03:11 PM
But when Kobe and Bynum missed games the Lakers kept winning.. EXPLAIN PLEASE :roll:

The teams didnt excel on certain ends of the court without Kobe :roll: :roll: :roll:

LAmbruh
01-10-2019, 03:15 PM
But when Kobe and Bynum missed games the Lakers kept winning.. EXPLAIN PLEASE :roll:



Lakers with Shaq/No Kobe: 36-8

Lakers with Kobe/No Shaq: 53-45



:roll:

superduper
01-10-2019, 03:17 PM
Lakers with Shaq/No Kobe: 36-8

Lakers with Kobe/No Shaq: 53-45



:roll:

Shaq with no Kobe: 1 3rd option ring
Kobe with no Shaq: 2 alpha rings with the worst casts in history to go all the way

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

AirTupac
01-10-2019, 03:19 PM
Shaq with no Kobe: 1 3rd option ring
Kobe with no Shaq: 2 alpha rings with the worst casts in history to go all the way

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

:roll: :roll: Easy

AirTupac
01-10-2019, 03:19 PM
Wait why are we even talkin about Kobe? Oh right LeBron fans have to deflect when their VERY OWN Stats are telling them LeBron sucks ass on D :(

NBASTATMAN
01-10-2019, 03:20 PM
Rondo/Kuzma/other injuries and Lakers lost to 2 of the greatest game winners ever seen in history.

They should literally be 6-2 or 7-1 if not for injuries and flukes.

Kuzma already better than Pippen ever been and they have a top 2 defense in the entire league.

This is easily a 60 win team without Bran.


:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

KOBE STANS :roll:

Gus Hemmingway
01-10-2019, 03:21 PM
Lakers with Shaq/No Kobe: 36-8

Lakers with Kobe/No Shaq: 53-45



:roll:
Jesus :roll: :roll:


2004: 56-26 Shaq
2005: 34-48 No Shaq


2016: 17-65 Kobe
2017: 26-56 No Kobe



One goes UP and one goes DOWN :yaohappy:

AirTupac
01-10-2019, 03:24 PM
Wait why cant these guys, who are so into stats, explain why Lebron is cancerous on the defensive end. I thought he could defend every position? How can a top 5 GOAT be so bad on an entire half of basketball. ????????


WHY?

NBASTATMAN
01-10-2019, 03:26 PM
Wait why are we even talkin about Kobe? Oh right LeBron fans have to deflect when their VERY OWN Stats are telling them LeBron sucks ass on D :(


Lebron isnt that good on defense anymore.. But he isnt all that bad when you look at his defensive rating.. :lol

Dude has 56 k minutes on those legs.. No player has ever played that many minutes and still a top player in the league..

YEA AND KOBE HAD LITTLE IMPACT, I figured I would let you know that the Lakers thrived when BOTH KOBE AND BYNUM were out.. :roll:

AirTupac
01-10-2019, 03:27 PM
What does Kobe have to do with LeBron being cancerous on the defensive end and stats back it up? Kobe was 1st team D for YEARS :oldlol:

NBASTATMAN
01-10-2019, 03:30 PM
What does Kobe have to do with LeBron being cancerous on the defensive end and stats back it up? Kobe was 1st team D for YEARS :oldlol:


And Kobe was 1st team ALL NBA FOR YEARS..

YET THEY PLAYED JUST AS WELL WITHOUT HIM AS WITH HIM..

LITTLE IMPACT KOBE :applause:

superduper
01-10-2019, 03:32 PM
Wait why cant these guys, who are so into stats, explain why Lebron is cancerous on the defensive end. I thought he could defend every position? How can a top 5 GOAT be so bad on an entire half of basketball. ????????


WHY?

Bro.. didn't you see that one time LeGOAT shut down the softest big man in NBA history Pau Gasol?!

What about when he BLOCKED 6'9 Tiago Splitter? :eek:

LeGOAT!!

AirTupac
01-10-2019, 03:33 PM
Love how he has to bring up Kobe with NO stats to back it up. How was their offensive rating without Kobe and Bynum? Defensive? :roll: :roll: :roll:

NBASTATMAN
01-10-2019, 03:35 PM
Love how he has to bring up Kobe with NO stats to back it up. How was their offensive rating without Kobe and Bynum? Defensive? :roll: :roll: :roll:


THEY WON IDIOT.. :lol :facepalm

AirTupac
01-10-2019, 03:36 PM
I win :oldlol:

NBASTATMAN
01-10-2019, 03:37 PM
Bro.. didn't you see that one time LeGOAT shut down the softest big man in NBA history Pau Gasol?!

What about when he BLOCKED 6'9 Tiago Splitter? :eek:

LeGOAT!!


Are you talking about Gasol the same guy that carried Kobe in the biggest games , the same Gasol that Led the Lakers when Kobe and Bynum were out, the same GASOL that showed up in game 7's where Kobe disappeared ?

:roll:

NBASTATMAN
01-10-2019, 03:38 PM
I win at being an idiot :oldlol:


:applause:

AirTupac
01-10-2019, 03:38 PM
2nd in defensive rating after being dogshit with Bron :applause:

superduper
01-10-2019, 03:40 PM
Are you talking about Gasol the same guy that carried Kobe in the biggest games , the same Gasol that Led the Lakers when Kobe and Bynum were out, the same GASOL that showed up in game 7's where Kobe disappeared ?

:roll:

Which game 7 did Gasol show up in? You realize Pau also shot trash that game :roll: :roll:

And if Pau carried 2010 then by that exact same logic Kobe carried 2001 :rockon:

NBASTATMAN
01-10-2019, 03:48 PM
Which game 7 did Gasol show up in? You realize Pau also shot trash that game :roll: :roll:

And if Pau carried 2010 then by that exact same logic Kobe carried 2001 :rockon:


Lakers didnt play any game 7 playoffs in 2001 IDIOT.. :roll: :roll: :roll:



KoBE SHOT 24 PERCENT AND VS Celtics 2010 GAME 7

kobe shoots 33 percent vs Rockets game 7 2008 playoffs

Gasol shoots over 50 percent vs Rockets game 7 2008 playoffs

Gasol shoots oVER 37 PERCENT in game 7 NBA FINALS AND HITS BIGGEST SHOT IN GAME after ARTEST..

LAmbruh
01-10-2019, 03:52 PM
Lakers didnt play any game 7 playoffs in 2001 IDIOT.. :roll: :roll: :roll:



KoBE SHOT 24 PERCENT AND VS Celtics 2010 GAME 7

kobe shoots 33 percent vs Rockets game 7 2008 playoffs

Gasol shoots over 50 percent vs Rockets game 7 2008 playoffs

Gasol shoots oVER 37 PERCENT in game 7 NBA FINALS AND HITS BIGGEST SHOT IN GAME after ARTEST..
https://media.giphy.com/media/26xBGekbXJHY8KpUY/giphy.gif

tpols
01-10-2019, 04:14 PM
Lebron isnt that good on defense anymore.. But he isnt all that bad when you look at his defensive rating.. :lol

Dude has 56 k minutes on those legs.. No player has ever played that many minutes and still a top player in the league..

YEA AND KOBE HAD LITTLE IMPACT, I figured I would let you know that the Lakers thrived when BOTH KOBE AND BYNUM were out.. :roll:


Bran rn is making old k0be look like prime Bruce Bowen.

We want effort from our players on defense!

And1AllDay
01-10-2019, 04:55 PM
Wow and there 3-5 record means they are on pace for 31 wins wow

Just imagine it, thinking 31 wins is a better pace than 48 wins (prior pace).

Stay in school pls thanks

And1AllDay
01-10-2019, 04:56 PM
Lakers didnt play any game 7 playoffs in 2001 IDIOT.. :roll: :roll: :roll:



KoBE SHOT 24 PERCENT AND VS Celtics 2010 GAME 7

kobe shoots 33 percent vs Rockets game 7 2008 playoffs

Gasol shoots over 50 percent vs Rockets game 7 2008 playoffs

Gasol shoots oVER 37 PERCENT in game 7 NBA FINALS AND HITS BIGGEST SHOT IN GAME after ARTEST..

Yikes I cant lie this was a brutal head shot

Down goes SuperDumper

superduper
01-10-2019, 04:59 PM
Lakers didnt play any game 7 playoffs in 2001 IDIOT..



KoBE SHOT 24 PERCENT AND VS Celtics 2010 GAME 7

kobe shoots 33 percent vs Rockets game 7 2008 playoffs

Gasol shoots over 50 percent vs Rockets game 7 2008 playoffs

Gasol shoots oVER 37 PERCENT in game 7 NBA FINALS AND HITS BIGGEST SHOT IN GAME after ARTEST..

Point out where I said they did.

And LMAO at a big man shooting 37% being impressive to you :roll: :roll:

Bran stans are literally going retarded by the minute

NBASTATMAN
01-10-2019, 05:22 PM
Bran rn is making old k0be look like prime Bruce Bowen.

We want effort from our players on defense!


YET JERRY WEST SAYS LEBRON IS RIGHT THERE WITH MJ :roll:

THAT HAS TO STING :roll:

superduper
01-10-2019, 05:25 PM
YET JERRY WEST SAYS LEBRON IS RIGHT THERE WITH MJ :roll:

THAT HAS TO STING :roll:

Daddy Dirk and Daddy Wade both say Kobe's the best player of their generation.

OUCH :roll: :roll:

NBASTATMAN
01-10-2019, 05:33 PM
Daddy Dirk and Daddy Wade both say Kobe's the best player of their generation.

OUCH :roll: :roll:


They said that yearsssss ago.. Wade said Lebron was number two behind MJ this seasoN.


:roll: :banana: :oldlol: :lol

Lakessss
01-10-2019, 08:54 PM
They said that yearsssss ago.. Wade said Lebron was number two behind MJ this seasoN.


:roll: :banana: :oldlol: :lol
STOP IT HE'S DEAD

ImKobe
01-10-2019, 09:38 PM
Shaq with no Kobe: 1 3rd option ring
Kobe with no Shaq: 2 alpha rings with the worst casts in history to go all the way

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
:pimp:

tamaraw08
01-11-2019, 12:15 AM
Bran rn is making old k0be look like prime Bruce Bowen.

We want effort from our players on defense!

Lebron before he got injured had a DBPM of +1.9 pts, Kobe at age 34 had a -0.5. and the Lakers ranked 20th on defense.

even in espn real plus minus, Lebron has a + 1.35

tamaraw08
01-11-2019, 12:30 AM
https://i.ibb.co/BypLSQC/49723909-10106454102583762-6776361402606026752-o.jpg

What does this mean?

You really don't want to know the offensive rankings of the teams they just recently faced?
Detroit ranked 29th in FG%,
Knicks ranked 30th,
Dallas ranked 21st,
Lakers with Kobe also ranked 20th on defense at age 34 when he played 78 games, had a -0.5 on dbpm.
Even when the Lakers won in 2008, Kobe ranked 8th at a minus -0.2 in defensive plus/minus in the team. That is not a knock on the Mamba.
That is just the way it is. It doesn't make him a bad defender, the focus is just much different.

And1AllDay
01-11-2019, 12:02 PM
You really don't want to know the offensive rankings of the teams they just recently faced?
Detroit ranked 29th in FG%,
Knicks ranked 30th,
Dallas ranked 21st,
Lakers with Kobe also ranked 20th on defense at age 34 when he played 78 games, had a -0.5 on dbpm.
Even when the Lakers won in 2008, Kobe ranked 8th at a minus -0.2 in defensive plus/minus in the team. That is not a knock on the Mamba.
That is just the way it is. It doesn't make him a bad defender, the focus is just much different.

Caught again...Lakers beat up on some horrible offensive teams and are getting LeBron hater praise. CAUGHT

Too easy these days :applause:

ArbitraryWater
01-11-2019, 12:04 PM
it seems you included a game in which he played

aj1987
01-11-2019, 05:18 PM
2nd in defensive rating after being dogshit with Bron :applause:
The Lakers were the #4 seed and 10th defensively with LeBron. They're struggling to hold onto the 8th seed without him and they've been playing trash teams. Lets not forget that their offense is trash without LeBron as well.

Also, this:

You really don't want to know the offensive rankings of the teams they just recently faced?

Detroit ranked 29th in FG%
Knicks ranked 30th
Dallas ranked 21st

Lakers with Kobe also ranked 20th on defense at age 34 when he played 78 games, had a -0.5 on dbpm.

Even when the Lakers won in 2008, Kobe ranked 8th at a minus -0.2 in defensive plus/minus in the team. That is not a knock on the Mamba.

That is just the way it is. It doesn't make him a bad defender, the focus is just much different.

SomeBlackDude
01-11-2019, 05:33 PM
The Lakers were the #4 seed and 10th defensively with LeBron. They're struggling to hold onto the 8th seed without him and they've been playing trash teams.

by dec. 10, lakers had the 25th toughest schedule played in the nba.

by christmas eve, they were 17th.

between dec. 10 through christmas eve, the lakers went 2-4 w/ bron (and rondo and kuzma).

the stretch that bron has been out has been their toughest of the season thus far. and they've been without kuz and rondo for most of it.

coin24
01-11-2019, 05:43 PM
Bran for AD get it done:rockon:

Get LePassiveMatador off the team asap

AirTupac
01-11-2019, 07:19 PM
Bran for AD get it done:rockon:

Get LePassiveMatador off the team asap


Bron for AD. KD comes for free.... insane.


Lonzo
Ingram
Durant
Kuzma
AD

GG

PickernRoller
01-11-2019, 07:23 PM
Young guns dropping career highs without the cancer....

Just imagine this team with Kawhi at the helm instead of Bran.....:mad: :mad:

tamaraw08
01-11-2019, 08:44 PM
The Lakers were the #4 seed and 10th defensively with LeBron. They're struggling to hold onto the 8th seed without him and they've been playing trash teams. Lets not forget that their offense is trash without LeBron as well.

Also, this:

You really don't want to know the offensive rankings of the teams they just recently faced?

Detroit ranked 29th in FG%
Knicks ranked 30th
Dallas ranked 21st

Lakers with Kobe also ranked 20th on defense at age 34 when he played 78 games, had a -0.5 on dbpm.

Even when the Lakers won in 2008, Kobe ranked 8th at a minus -0.2 in defensive plus/minus in the team. That is not a knock on the Mamba.

That is just the way it is. It doesn't make him a bad defender, the focus is just much different.
Hey AJ, you can copy and paste my post#58, it's alright, there's no copyright laws here. :D

You really don't want to know the offensive rankings of the teams they just recently faced?
Detroit ranked 29th in FG%,
Knicks ranked 30th,
Dallas ranked 21st,
Lakers with Kobe also ranked 20th on defense at age 34 when he played 78 games, had a -0.5 on dbpm.
Even when the Lakers won in 2008, Kobe ranked 8th at a minus -0.2 in defensive plus/minus in the team. That is not a knock on the Mamba.
That is just the way it is. It doesn't make him a bad defender, the focus is just much different.
And you're welcome BTW.

tamaraw08
01-11-2019, 08:46 PM
Young guns dropping career highs without the cancer....

Just imagine this team with Kawhi at the helm instead of Bran.....:mad: :mad:

Right, Ingram with another 29 pts, 10 assists after the Dallas game, oh wait.:rolleyes:

aj1987
01-13-2019, 05:36 AM
Hey AJ, you can copy and paste my post#58, it's alright, there's no copyright laws here. :D

And you're welcome BTW.
:oldlol:

:cheers:

I usually do leave credit at the bottom. Completely forgot. My bad.

aj1987
01-13-2019, 05:40 AM
by dec. 10, lakers had the 25th toughest schedule played in the nba.

by christmas eve, they were 17th.

between dec. 10 through christmas eve, the lakers went 2-4 w/ bron (and rondo and kuzma).

the stretch that bron has been out has been their toughest of the season thus far. and they've been without kuz and rondo for most of it.
What the **** kind of crack are you smoking? They played against Detroit, Dallas, Kings x 2, Wolves, Clips, and Okc. The only "good" teams being the Thunder and the Clips.

Lets also not act like LeBron wasn't playing without Rondo, Ingram, McGee, and Chandler for a ton of games.

Not many teams can win 55 games without their #1 option.

GreatHILL
01-13-2019, 07:40 AM
why this wigga gets banned all the time? who gives a shit what this retard has to say :lol

ImKobe
01-13-2019, 08:00 AM
What the **** kind of crack are you smoking? They played against Detroit, Dallas, Kings x 2, Wolves, Clips, and Okc. The only "good" teams being the Thunder and the Clips.

Lets also not act like LeBron wasn't playing without Rondo, Ingram, McGee, and Chandler for a ton of games.

Not many teams can win 55 games without their #1 option.



here are their records

Detroit 18-23
Sacramento 22 - 21
Dallas 20 - 22
Minnesota 21 - 22
Jazz 23 - 21
Clippers 24 - 18
Thunder 26 - 16


All those teams are in running for the Playoffs, there's not a single "bad" team on that list. They had two bad losses, obviously the one to the Knicks at home & the blowout loss @MIN. They lost to a game-winner @SAC and have lost to some really good teams, it's a tough as **** schedule.

They face two lottery teams next @ Staples that they should win without Lebron & then they got @Thunder, @Rockets, Warriors & Wolves in their next four. This is toughest part of their season.

aj1987
01-13-2019, 10:00 AM
here are their records

Detroit 18-23
Sacramento 22 - 21
Dallas 20 - 22
Minnesota 21 - 22
Jazz 23 - 21
Clippers 24 - 18
Thunder 26 - 16


All those teams are in running for the Playoffs, there's not a single "bad" team on that list. They had two bad losses, obviously the one to the Knicks at home & the blowout loss @MIN. They lost to a game-winner @SAC and have lost to some really good teams, it's a tough as **** schedule.

They face two lottery teams next @ Staples that they should win without Lebron & then they got @Thunder, @Rockets, Warriors & Wolves in their next four. This is toughest part of their season.
The Pistons, Jazz, Kings, Wolves, Dallas, and the Knicks are out of the PO's right now. They are shit teams and so is this Laker team without LeBron. If you honestly think that those teams aren't bad, then you shouldn't ever bitch and moan about LeBron playing in the East or making the Finals from the EC.

The Lakers played 2 teams which are in the PO run right now and they are the Thunder and the Clippers. Guess what. They lost both those games. They're also 3-4 against those other teams and are 3-6 overall. On pace to win 27 games. They were on pace to win 48 with LeBron and were a top 4 seed.