Who meant more to their teams? Jordan or Kyrie?

[Dray n Klay]

Bulls with Jordan - 57 wins good defense

Bulls without Jordan - 55 wins, elite defense




Cavs with Kyrie - 51 wins, made Finals

Cavs without Kyrie - 50 wins, made Finals



Discuss

[Marchesk]

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[3ball]

Bulls with Jordan - 57 wins good defense

Bulls without Jordan - 55 wins, elite defense




Cavs with Kyrie - 51 wins, made Finals

Cavs without Kyrie - 50 wins, made Finals



Discuss
How does a goat candidate only win 51 with prime Kyrie???!... :biggums:

And lebron fans have the temerity to whine about being an underdog?... :kobe:... Ridiculous

And is there a great player in the East losing their ass like AD and Kuzma out west?... Seems like if ur a great player in the East, you win.. ask kawhi.. ask DeMar.. lebron was the same, except he had big 3's and the most talent from 11-18' (even 18' without Kyrie)..

[TheCorporation]

Bulls with Jordan - 57 wins good defense

Bulls without Jordan - 55 wins, elite defense




Cavs with Kyrie - 51 wins, made Finals

Cavs without Kyrie - 50 wins, made Finals



Discuss

Good thread.

Quite obviously we are deciding among two very high impact players. Jordan has a major impact of two full games, while Kyrie has an impact of one game.

It's hard for me to say at this point, but my gut tells me Jordan.

[TheCorporation]

How does a goat candidate only win 51 with prime Kyrie???!... :biggums:

And lebron fans have the temerity to whine about being an underdog?... :kobe:... Ridiculous

And is there a great player in the East losing their ass like AD and Kuzma out west?... Seems like if ur a great player in the East, you win.. ask kawhi.. ask DeMar.. lebron was the same, except he had big 3's and the most talent from 11-18' (even 18' without Kyrie)..

Wait, so what was your answer? Who was the more impactful player?

+2 Jordan or +1 Irving?

[3ball]

Good thread.

Quite obviously we are deciding among two very high impact players. Jordan has a major impact of two full games, while Kyrie has an impact of one game.

It's hard for me to say at this point, but my gut tells me Jordan.
lebron's 12' and 13' heat could've won 55 without him and been a 2nd round team

It's all about the state a team is left in - if it's left as a goat team, then it will still be respectable.. if it's left in shambles and getting blown away, then it's probably going to be blown up

[TheCorporation]

lebron's 12' and 13' heat could've won 55 without him and been a 2nd round team

It's all about the state a team is left in - if it's left as a goat team, then it will still be respectable.. if it's left in shambles and getting blown away, then it's probably going to be blown up

I'm glad you mentioned the Miami Heat. Let's take a quick peak and see what happened there

2014 Heat (w/ LBJ): 54 wins (Finals)
2015 Heat (w/o LBJ): 37 wins (missed playoffs)

:lebronamazed:

It looks like Miami fell by a tad bit more than 2 wins.

[Real14]

Kblaze you there?

[tpols]

How does a goat candidate only win 51 with prime Kyrie???!... :biggums:

And lebron fans have the temerity to whine about being an underdog?... :kobe:... Ridiculous

And is there a great player in the East losing their ass like AD and Kuzma out west?... Seems like if ur a great player in the East, you win.. ask kawhi.. ask DeMar.. lebron was the same, except he had big 3's and the most talent from 11-18' (even 18' without Kyrie)..



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:lol

[3ball]

I'm glad you mentioned the Miami Heat. Let's take a quick peak and see what happened there

2014 Heat (w/ LBJ): 54 wins (Finals)
2015 Heat (w/o LBJ): 37 wins (missed playoffs)

:lebronamazed:

It looks like Miami fell by a tad bit more than 2 wins.
That's how weak his conference is

In any other conference (like if the mavs/spurs/warriors were in lebron's conference), it's a drop from 1st round to lottery.. but in the 14' East, it was Finals to lottery

Although the heat only missed the playoffs and at least 45 wins because Wade/Bosh were hurt for 6 games

[PeroAntic]

damn its impressive how op manages to make stupider and stupider threads with each passing day.

[Rocket]

:biggums:

[TheCorporation]

That's how weak his conference is

In any other conference (like if the mavs/spurs/warriors were in lebron's conference), it's a drop from 1st round to lottery.. but in the 14' East, it was Finals to lottery

Although the heat only missed the playoffs and at least 45 wins because Wade/Bosh were hurt for 6 games

Oh is that right? So how are the Cleveland Cavaliers doing this year? I heard they won 50 games with LeBron last year. Does anyone wish to post the Cavaliers current win pace for the 2019 season?

[superduper]

Does vicariously living through Bran make up for your own personal failures?

[TheCorporation]

Does vicariously living through Bran make up for your own personal failures?



Sheesh, you didn't even answer the question at hand and instead of trying to discuss basketball you elected to come at the OP with a personal attack? Be better, Superduper.

[fileman1209]

damn its impressive how op manages to make stupider and stupider threads with each passing day.

Yeah I'm a fan of LeBron but this thread is stupid as hell

[superduper]

OP getting eviscerated as usual