Remember when LeBron beat the 60 win Hawks with 4-all stars by himself back in 2015?

[Dray n Klay]

Imo that upset was almost as big as the 73 win Warriors upset in 2016


60 win Hawks had HCA and 4-all stars



Cavs just had LeBron and no Kevin Love and no Kyrie due to injuries



And LeBron still managed to beat them :eek:


So why couldn’t Jordan beat the 4 all-star Celtics back in 1986?? :eek:





He was in the same situation as LeBron, by himself facing a 4 all star juggernaut

[Marchesk]

Are you seriously comparing the 2015 Hawks to the 86 Celtics?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Dray n Klay]

Are you seriously comparing the 2015 Hawks to the 86 Celtics?

:roll: :roll: :roll:


Both were 60+ win teams with 4 all-stars


And Jordan had more help, he had Oakley and George Gervin


LeBron had no one (lol Delly)


So what

[Uncle Drew]

That Hawks team was so good that the entire starting five won player of the month.

[And1AllDay]

Also 6th in DefRtg that year

[RRR3]

That Hawks team was so good that the entire starting five won player of the month.
LeBeast :bowdown:

[E_Stamkos]

That Atlanta team may very well be the biggest pretender in professional sports history.

Nothing about them scared anyone. The fact that their success transpired in one of the most pitiful conferences in league history is also noteworthy.

The current Raptors, Celtics, Nuggets and 6ers would eat them.


Salty Salty.

[Dray n Klay]

E... why u hatin?

[LostCause]

If you're gonna say that, Jordan did similar beating the 3 All-Star Cavs with no all-star teammates

Though LeBron did have multiple time all-star Shawn Marion in 2015 btw so he wasn't alone

[3ball]

Who was the Vegas favorite to win the 2015 Finals heading into the regular season (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2241463-nba-championship-odds-2014-15-every-teams-chances-of-winning-the-nba-title#slide0)?

Who was the Vegas favorite to win the 2015 Finals heading into the playoffs (https://www.oddsshark.com/nba/nba-playoffs-2015-betting-odds-preview)?

So the Cavs were the league favorites - the only team with 2 all-nba players and the only team with 3 including 2014 (love)

everyone knew the Hawks were a one-off... teague and korver were 1-time all-star.. So they really had 2 all-star caliber players (milsap/horboss).... And Klay had just become an all-star in 15', so the warriors weren't even a super-team.. the Cavs were the only team with an established big 3
.

[coin24]

Remember when Kobe op?

[Dray n Klay]

Who was the Vegas favorite to win the 2015 Finals heading into the regular season (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2241463-nba-championship-odds-2014-15-every-teams-chances-of-winning-the-nba-title#slide0)?

Who was the Vegas favorite to win the 2015 Finals heading into the playoffs (https://www.oddsshark.com/nba/nba-playoffs-2015-betting-odds-preview)?

So the Cavs were the league favorites - the only team with 2 all-nba players and the only team with 3 including 2014 (love)

everyone knew the Hawks were a one-off... teague and korver were 1-time all-star.. So they really had 2 all-star caliber players (milsap/horboss).... And Klay had just become an all-star in 15', so the warriors weren't even a super-team.. the Cavs were the only team with an established big 3
.


3ball.. you have no response to this



LeBron by himself beat the 4 all star 60 win. Hawks.



Why couldn

[atljonesbro]

I remember that series. Their role players hit threes at a record pace. That team was stacked from top to bottom. Unbelievably stacked.

[Manny98]

Jordan couldn't even steal one game against the Celtics he got straight up swept how pathetic :roll: :roll:

[Overdrive]

Why did Lebron lose with one of those all stars last year?

[Dray n Klay]

Jordan couldn't even steal one game against the Celtics he got straight up swept how pathetic :roll: :roll:

Meanwhile LeBron SWEPT the modern day version of the 1986 Celtics :roll:

[Manny98]

Meanwhile LeBron SWEPT the modern day version of the 1986 Celtics :roll:
With JR Smith as his second option :bowdown: :bowdown:

[3ball]

Jordan couldn't even steal one game against the Celtics he got straight up swept how pathetic :roll: :roll:
Lebron only got 34 ppg when the warriors swept him - so we don't know what 44 would do

So think about the better comp - 44/6/6 couldn't even get a game

We know that lebron wins ecf with 22 ppg, or Finals with 25 ppg... :eek: ... If that's any indication, MJ never loses

[Trollsmasher]

2nd greatest upset in the history of professional sports:bowdown:

don't forget that LeBron's could barely move during those playoffs due to the constant back problems

[Dray n Klay]

Lebron only got 34 ppg when the warriors swept him - so we don't know what 44 would do

So think about the better comp - 44/6/6 couldn't even get a game

We know that lebron wins ecf with 22 ppg, or Finals with 25 ppg... :eek: ... If that's any indication, MJ never loses


What team was better, 1986 Celtics or 2015 Hawks

[Real14]

Mods?

[Nash]

That Hawks team was so good that the entire starting five won player of the month.
lol yeah i remember that :lol

[Manny98]

Lebron only got 34 ppg when the warriors swept him - so we don't know what 44 would do

So think about the better comp - 44/6/6 couldn't even get a game

We know that lebron wins ecf with 22 ppg, or Finals with 25 ppg... :eek: ... If that's any indication, MJ never loses
LeBron never missed the finals with a 18+ppg sidekick

Whilst Jordan couldn't get past the 1st round despite having a 20ppg superstar in Orlando Woolridge

[SomeBlackDude]

Why did Lebron lose with one of those all stars last year?

lemicrosoft does not respect anti-trust laws and absorbs anything he views as a threat or competition.

couldn't lead his squad to a ring ala wade, so he joined wade (and brought a third franchise player with him).

poached jesus from the boston big 3.

stole korver from the hawks.

colluded with isaiah thomas after he had a 29ppg season and led bos to the ecf.

can't wait to see what he's got cooked up for his time in the west.

[Manny98]

lemicrosoft does not respect anti-trust laws and absorbs anything he views as a threat or competition.

couldn't lead his squad to a ring ala wade, so he joined wade (and brought a third franchise player with him).

poached jesus from the boston big 3.

stole korver from the hawks.

colluded with isaiah thomas after he had a 29ppg season and led bos to the ecf.

can't wait to see what he's got cooked up for his time in the west.
Give LeBron

Shaq
Payton
Jay Williams
Mourning
Antoine Walker
+ Pat Riley as your coach

He's winning 7+ championships

[SomeBlackDude]

Give LeBron

Shaq
Payton
Jay Williams
Mourning
Antoine Walker
+ Pat Riley as your coach

He's winning 7+ championships

https://media.giphy.com/media/l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji/giphy.gif

[E_Stamkos]

Give LeBron

Shaq
Payton
Jay Williams
Mourning
Antoine Walker
+ Pat Riley as your coach

He's winning 7+ championships

Just like he did with 2 elite stars in Wade and Chris Bosh.

Not 1.... Not 2.... It's gunna be easy

:roll:

F*ucking dick smash

[Akrazotile]

The reason why Lebron was able to do this and MJ failed is so simple everyone seems to be looking right past it.









































































https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FrankWhoppingGiantschnauzer-poster.jpg

[bullettooth]

How come I cant name a single player from that Hawks team?

[Dray n Klay]

How come I cant name a single player from that Hawks team?
Cause you're a dumbass? :oldlol:

[atljonesbro]

Why is everyone glossing over the fact that the role players from the Cavs were draining 3s at a record pace? That team was STACKED! LeBron had and utterly stacked supporting cast. All time great shooters everywhere.

[Mask the Embiid]

yes.yes i do OP




Why is everyone glossing over the fact that the role players from the Cavs were draining 3s at a record pace? That team was STACKED! LeBron had and utterly stacked supporting cast. All time great shooters everywhere.
dellavedova and shumpert are so stacked :oldlol:

[Paul George 24]

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]Both were 60+ win teams with 4 all-stars


And Jordan had more help, he had Oakley and George Gervin


LeBron had no one (lol Delly)


So what

[Paul George 24]

Jordan couldn't even steal one game against the Celtics he got straight up swept how pathetic :roll: :roll:
LECHOKE COULDN'T SCORES ONCE 60 PTS AGAINST HAWKS:oldlol:

[Bronbron23]

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]Both were 60+ win teams with 4 all-stars


And Jordan had more help, he had Oakley and George Gervin


LeBron had no one (lol Delly)


So what

[ImKobe]

Korver was injured in that series and only played 2 games on limited minutes.

Lebron gets bailed out again.

[Uncle Drew]

Korver was injured in that series and only played 2 games on limited minutes.

Lebron gets bailed out again.
''Limited minutes''. He played 36 and 32 minutes. They lost both games. At home.

[ImKobe]

''Limited minutes''. He played 36 and 32 minutes. They lost both games. At home.

He averaged 38 mpg going into the series and was out when his team needed him the most down 0 - 2. He didn't even get to finish Game 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0Q6LXfAsa0

[Lakessss]

Wow your seriously comparing the 15 Hawks to that championship Celtics team? And even if your point is valid all your doing is just proving how much better the NBA was back then. Especially the east. One 60 win team had 4 all stars that not only won multiple chips but we're also Hof's. The other 60 win team had 4 all stars that won't even sniff the Hof and never even made a finals. So either your comparison is a joke or LeBron's top competition in the east is. Either way you lose
Actually it shows the opposite. It shows how strong the league is that even with 4 all stars your team can still be beat. As to why Golden State stacked the deck with an all time starting five line up filled with future HOF's.

The level of competition in the league due to all the skill and athleticism is so vastly superior to that of the 90's it's not even funny anymore. People who really try to make that comparison are pathetic. Nobody's stopping AD, nobody's stopping Giannis, nobody stopping Steph and Harden with their 3 point barrages, nobody sniffing KD and nobody sniffing Lebron. This league is so stacked with talent that every week we have a new MVP caliber player. In the 90's it was only Jordan and not because he was the greatest of all time. The level of competition around him was just vastly inferior.
There's a reason that era is known as the expansion era.

[aj1987]

He averaged 38 mpg going into the series and was out when his team needed him the most down 0 - 2. He didn't even get to finish Game 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0Q6LXfAsa0
The Hawks lost both games WITH Korver and AT HOME, but yeah they were going to win 4 out of the next 5 if Korver player. :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Lets ignore the FACT that Korver was trash (as always) in the PO's that season.

[Paul George 24]

LeBron never missed the finals with a 18+ppg sidekick

Whilst Jordan couldn't get past the 1st round despite having a 20ppg superstar in Orlando Woolridge
jordan doesn't anyone to avg 29 ppg to carry him to get a ring:oldlol:

[Paul George 24]

With JR Smith as his second option :bowdown: :bowdown:
and carry lechoke in east conference :oldlol:

[superduper]

Keep living vicariously through Bran we all know you're worthless IRL :roll:

[Hey Yo]

Who was the Vegas favorite to win the 2015 Finals heading into the regular season (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2241463-nba-championship-odds-2014-15-every-teams-chances-of-winning-the-nba-title#slide0)?

Who was the Vegas favorite to win the 2015 Finals heading into the playoffs (https://www.oddsshark.com/nba/nba-playoffs-2015-betting-odds-preview)?

So the Cavs were the league favorites - the only team with 2 all-nba players and the only team with 3 including 2014 (love)

everyone knew the Hawks were a one-off... teague and korver were 1-time all-star.. So they really had 2 all-star caliber players (milsap/horboss).... And Klay had just become an all-star in 15', so the warriors weren't even a super-team.. the Cavs were the only team with an established big 3
.
Guess we'll never see you talk about 1 time, last minute substitute All-Star Mo Williams ever again. Confirms you think that LeBron was the only All-Star on that 2009 team.

Klay was All-NBA in 2015. As was Curry and Draymond

3 All-NBA teammates for GS in 2015 = Superteam. Just like the 2012 Thunder except for GS not having the 6MOTY.

[Hey Yo]

Korver was injured in that series and only played 2 games on limited minutes.

Lebron gets bailed out again.
Same with Kyrie. 2gms and avg. 24.6mins

Korver, 2gms but avg. ten more minutes at 34.2

[Marchesk]

Actually it shows the opposite. It shows how strong the league is that even with 4 all stars your team can still be beat. As to why Golden State stacked the deck with an all time starting five line up filled with future HOF's.

The level of competition in the league due to all the skill and athleticism is so vastly superior to that of the 90's it's not even funny anymore.

It's not, except for three point shooting and some better dribbling with more relaxed rules. But certainly not on the athleticism front.


Actually it shows the opposite. It shows how strong the league is that even with 4 all stars your team can still be beat.

Give me a break. The Hawks weren't that great of team. They didn't have a single superstar, and they never repeated that kind of success. The East was also weak.


Nobody's stopping AD, nobody's stopping Giannis, nobody stopping Steph and Harden with their 3 point barrages, nobody sniffing KD and nobody sniffing Lebron.

It's like Hakeem, Shaq, Karl Malone, Barkley, David Robinson, Penny Hardaway, Pippen, Kemp, Payton, etc. didn't exist in the 90s.

There are great, "unstoppable" players in any era.


The level of competition around him was just vastly inferior.

Jordan would wreck this era too, with all its spacing, lack of rim protection, and rules favoring perimeter players. Westbrook has led the league in scoring twice and won an MVP while being a poor shooter.

Anyway, literally nobody except OP (who's trolling) believes the 2015 Hawks were a better team than the 86 Celtics.

[Bronbron23]

Actually it shows the opposite. It shows how strong the league is that even with 4 all stars your team can still be beat. As to why Golden State stacked the deck with an all time starting five line up filled with future HOF's.

The level of competition in the league due to all the skill and athleticism is so vastly superior to that of the 90's it's not even funny anymore. People who really try to make that comparison are pathetic. Nobody's stopping AD, nobody's stopping Giannis, nobody stopping Steph and Harden with their 3 point barrages, nobody sniffing KD and nobody sniffing Lebron. This league is so stacked with talent that every week we have a new MVP caliber player. In the 90's it was only Jordan and not because he was the greatest of all time. The level of competition around him was just vastly inferior.
There's a reason that era is known as the expansion era.
The evolution of skill and athleticism since the 90's is heavily exaggerated. Let's look at the top playoff teams in this era. The warriors, rockets, raps and bucks are the best teams in the NBA and there not crazy athletic. They're no more athletic then than The 90's warriors, spurs, Orlando, rockets and Sonic's playoff teams. Shaqs and penny Orlando team is more athletic than any east team now. That team would be hands down the best team in the east if you put them in this era.
And AD and Gianni's would be centers in the 90's or vice versa and neither would better than Robinson, shaq or Hakeem. And Lol at harden or curry having anything close to the same impact in an era where defences where actually allowed to play real physical defence. Durant would still be a beast but he's a mental midget compared to mj. Mj was also much more skilled than him or anyone else you mentioned and would still dominate this era. The bulls were Taylormade to beat the warriors even with kd. If Houston can do what they did last year defensively to the warriors what do you think the bulls with 3 of the best defenders ever would do? Oh and mj averaged 37 points a game before the "expansion era" even started. The only reason he wasn't winning chips was because pip was still a pup and he didn't have Phil jackson

[ballinhun8]

Mods let this thread exist when OP legit compared the 2015 Hawks to the 86 Celtics...... Hahahahahaha

[FKAri]

Mods let this thread exist when OP legit compared the 2015 Hawks to the 86 Celtics...... Hahahahahaha
Buncha white guys and Robert Parish? Sounds like shit. Hawks had actual modern NBA players with their all-stars.

[ballinhun8]

Buncha white guys and Robert Parish? Sounds like shit. Hawks had actual modern NBA players with their all-stars.



That's how most you LeBron fans really sound and think so it's no surprise.


Modern players ROFL. Didn't korver make it with his 8 ppg? Inexplicably terrible conference.

[E_Stamkos]

Mods let this thread exist when OP legit compared the 2015 Hawks to the 86 Celtics...... Hahahahahaha


This place is an undeniable joke.

[Real14]

Mods let this thread exist when OP legit compared the 2015 Hawks to the 86 Celtics...... Hahahahahaha
Exactly! Hawks were no way near that good.

[Real14]

Buncha white guys and Robert Parish? Sounds like shit. Hawks had actual modern NBA players with their all-stars.
Bird and McHale are just a bunch of white guys?:lol and what about Dennis johnson????:biggums:

[TheImmortal]

Leastern Conference product. :facepalm

[aj1987]

Leastern Conference product. :facepalm
The '15 Hawks had a win percentage of 73% against EC teams and 73.3% against WC team.

[Manny98]

Wow another one to add to the GOATs resume beating teams with 4 all stars :bowdown:

[TheCorporation]

Anyone?