forget allstar.. cool hand luka is a top 10 nba player right now

[kennethgriffen]

only guys i would take ahead of the Don

- Durant
- Kawhi
- Giannis
- Davis
- Harden
- Curry
- Embiid
- Lillard


and the only other guy you could even argue is still better ( that i would never want on my team in a million years )

- LeChoke


everyone else is unproven, chases stats, shrinks when it matters or just has more opportunities


LUKA is the 10th best basketball player in the world RIGHT NOW


PROVE ME WRONG

[Kblaze8855]

So you are dismissing players for being unproven and shrinking when it matters but repping someone who has never played a playoff game or game that matters in the NBA?

Which of your reasons tosses out Kyrie? Unproven would be hard to say relative to Luka. Chases stats? Nah. Hes one of the more talented scorers ever but doesnt often try to score a lot. Shrinks when it matters? Hardly. He takes like 2 more shots than Luka but....why wouldnt he?

Jokic plays less minutes, shoots less, seems unselfish to me and neither he nor luka has taken a single shot that really meant anything in the NBA.

Why we throwing him out exactly?

[kennethgriffen]

So you are dismissing players for being unproven and shrinking when it matters but repping someone who has never played a playoff game or game that matters in the NBA?

Which of your reasons tosses out Kyrie? Unproven would be hard to say relative to Luka. Chases stats? Nah. Hes one of the more talented scorers ever but doesnt often try to score a lot. Shrinks when it matters? Hardly. He takes like 2 more shots than Luka but....why wouldnt he?

Jokic plays less minutes, shoots less, seems unselfish to me and neither he nor luka has taken a single shot that really meant anything in the NBA.

Why we throwing him out exactly?



why should i put one unproven guy below another unproven player just because they're experienced at failing. i don't see the point


i used to be hyped for kyrie but he's sort of cancerous with his own personal agenda. he was perfect as the guy to step up for lebron but as the leader i just feel like hes made boston worse. he isn't as quick after surgery and doesn't get to the rim as easy as he used to.. if he isn't back to 100% as of yet then i doubt he'l ever be. if you replaced kyrie with doncic the celtics would instantly be better



as for jokic its very close and i admit he deserves mvp consideration right now but i dont feel like he can lead a team as well as doncic. denvers just unbelievably stacked and jokic is a perfect compliment. if you gave each guy equal surrounding players i think luka would do better.

mvp and best player are 2 different things. you cant just give jokic the ball and tell him to get you a bucket. hes more of a play maker that scores sometimes

[Kblaze8855]

So jokic is behind luka because you can

[Kblaze8855]

And I think unbelievably stacked is a bit much to say for Denver.

Think for a moment of other teams you would say that about in your life.

How many had a better 2-8 than Denver? Denver has like 5 players of note and just play well together.

They are good....not crazy stacked. And Harris has missed half the season so far.

I don

[ralph_i_el]

Dammit Kenny

Luka is my favorite new player and you are going to make folks hate him.

Damn.

[Mask the Embiid]

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[kennethgriffen]

Dammit Kenny

Luka is my favorite new player and you are going to make folks hate him.

Damn.

good

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[highwhey]

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[kennethgriffen]

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]And I think unbelievably stacked is a bit much to say for Denver.

Think for a moment of other teams you would say that about in your life.

How many had a better 2-8 than Denver? Denver has like 5 players of note and just play well together.

They are good....not crazy stacked. And Harris has missed half the season so far.

I don

[superduper]

Jokic is 100% better than Luka and is making his teammates look better than they are.

Murray is legit though.

[kennethgriffen]

Jokic is 100% better than Luka and is making his teammates look better than they are.

Murray is legit though.


i'm gonna have to concede on this one for now. but only because of jokics huge night


11th is still pretty good

[Smoke117]

Cringe inducing as usual. Luka is better than Jokic, George, Westbrook, Kyrie, Kemba etc etc? :roll: :roll: Prove you wrong? Why even bother in the face of such absurd stupidity? This white boy has finally lost it altogether.

[RRR3]

Cringe inducing as usual. Luka is better than Jokic, George, Westbrook, Kyrie, Kemba etc etc? :roll: :roll: Prove you wrong? Why even bother in the face of such absurd stupidity? This white boy has finally lost it altogether.
Don

[Smoke117]

Don’t forget LeBron, which was the dumbest one of all by far.

Is Luka even top 35?


Good god.

I noticed he slid LeBron in there at the end of his original post. Just sticking with the position Luka plays...the idea that he's better than Paul George is hilarious. George leads all sf's in RPM overwhelmingly and is 3rd in the entire league with a 6.67. Setting that aside, he's clearly been a much better player from the eye test alone as he has a career year. There is absolutely zero argument to make that Luka is a better player than Paul George. Hell, you could argue Galinari and Harris on the Clippers are better and this clown actually believes Luka is better than Paul George. :lol

[Smook A.]

Luka is a very likeable guy and a really good player with a bright future BUT the way people dick ride him like he's the greatest rookie of all time is super annoying. I've seen people on social media say he's the next Larry Bird, or that he's better than James Harden ever was and already the king of step backs. That's just taking trolling to whole new level.

[Smoke117]

Luka is a very likeable guy and a really good player with a bright future BUT the way people dick ride him like he's the greatest rookie of all time is super annoying. I've seen people on social media say he's the next Larry Bird, or that he's better than James Harden ever was and already the king of step backs. That's just taking trolling to whole new level.

First is laughable, Second is true.

[kennethgriffen]

Cringe inducing as usual. Luka is better than Jokic, George, Westbrook, Kyrie, Kemba etc etc? :roll: :roll: Prove you wrong? Why even bother in the face of such absurd stupidity? This white boy has finally lost it altogether.


i conceded on jokic for now

george paul on the other hand... laughable... playoff choker, laid down for lebron like defrozen

westbrooks a fraudulent stat padding cancerous triple double chasing retard

kyrie's a shell of himself

kembas about to fall out of the playoffs in the east and continue his career long irrelevancy

[RRR3]

Luka better than LeBron James :roll: :roll: :roll:


Never go full Kenny

[kennethgriffen]

Luka better than LeBron James :roll: :roll: :roll:


Never go full Kenny



get your eyes checked

[Smook A.]

First is laughable, Second is true.
Bull ****ing shit. I know you're joking

[RRR3]

Better than LeBron















Better than LeBron









:roll: :roll: :roll:







Kenny is officially confirmed braindead.

[Smook A.]

So in this thread we already have a person saying Luka is better than LeBron James and another retard saying he's better than James Harden :oldlol:

[kennethgriffen]

Better than LeBron















Better than LeBron









:roll: :roll: :roll:







Kenny is officially confirmed braindead.


ok now go back and try again

https://ak5.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/1580245/thumb/1.jpg

[RRR3]

So in this thread we already have a person saying Luka is better than LeBron James and another retard saying he's better than James Harden :oldlol:
At least smoke was joking.


Kenny is so braindead he actually believes it.

[RRR3]

my IQ is 55
We know.

[kennethgriffen]

So in this thread we already have a person saying Luka is better than LeBron James :oldlol:













and the only other guy you could even argue is still better ( that i would never want on my team in a million years )

- LeChoke


https://www.cheatsheet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Female-Optician-Giving-Man-Eye-Test.jpg

[kennethgriffen]

oh i see it now. i'm retarded




:lol

[RRR3]

Doncic better than LeBron



:roll: :roll: :roll:




One of the dumbest things Kenny ever said and that’s saying something.

[kennethgriffen]

Doncic better than LeBron



:roll: :roll: :roll:




One of the dumbest things Kenny ever said and that’s saying something.


stubbornness to be right by creating your own idea of reality can be very unhealthy



i dunno if you're joking so i'l just be straight up and stop making jokes... in the OP i said lebron was better than doncic


you must have missed it and replied too quickly


this is looking pretty bad for you right now

[ShawkFactory]

stubbornness to be right by creating your own idea of reality can be very unhealthy
This is truly one of the greatest examples of irony I've ever seen. Thank you.

[superduper]

stubbornness to be right by creating your own idea of reality can be very unhealthy



i dunno if you're joking so i'l just be straight up and stop making jokes... in the OP i said lebron was better than doncic


you must have missed it and replied too quickly


this is looking pretty bad for you right now

You must excuse him. He is known as RRR3tard for good reason.

[kennethgriffen]

This is truly one of the greatest examples of irony I've ever seen. Thank you.


example?

https://i.gifer.com/9cN.gif

[ShawkFactory]

example?

https://i.gifer.com/9cN.gif
Yes.

You are saying that Doncic is better than Lebron and then claiming someone to have created a false reality for themselves upon challenging that notion.

It's textbook.

[kennethgriffen]

Yes.

You are saying that Doncic is better than Lebron .



link?

[kennethgriffen]

You must excuse him. He is known as RRR3tard for good reason.


jesus christ theres 2 blind idiots ITT

:lol

[ShawkFactory]

link?
Ok. You said it was arguable.

And then implied that you'd still take Luka on your team by saying you wouldn't want Lebron in a million years.

You're getting pretty technical. It's still retarded.

[kennethgriffen]

Ok. You said it was arguable.

And then implied that you'd still take Luka on your team by saying you wouldn't want Lebron in a million years.

You're getting pretty technical. It's still retarded.



how is that retarded. theres tons of guys i wouldn't want on my team that are considered great individual players




- Adrian Dantley
- Latrell Sprewell
- Ricky Davis
- Steve Francis
- Gilbert Arenas
- JR smith
- Lebron James
- Russell Westbrook
- Demar Derozan
- Dwight Howard

among many others

[ShawkFactory]

how is that retarded. theres tons of guys i wouldn't want on my team that are considered great individual players




- Adrian Dantley
- Latrell Sprewell
- Ricky Davis
- Steve Francis
- Gilbert Arenas
- JR smith
- Lebron James
- Russell Westbrook
- Demar Derozan
- Dwight Howard

among many others
Lebron is not like any of those guys :lol

They're all head cases who don't/didn't seem to take the game as seriously as some others or have a low IQ.

You just hate Lebron. And that's fine but don't lump him in to that group and pretend that his game is anything like that :lol

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Lebron is not like any of those guys :lol

They're all head cases who don't/didn't seem to take the game as seriously as some others.

You just hate Lebron. And that's fine but don't lump him in to that group and pretend that his game is anything like that :lol

I don't agree with OP but if he doesn't like LeBron? Or rather, anyone that feels LeBron is not best for their team?

Is that really a "bad" thing?

I mean, LeBron ball is real. Ditto with being blamed (aside from LeBron) for everything when shit hits the fan. KD came out a month ago and basically called LeBron-led teams toxic :oldlol:

[kennethgriffen]

Lebron is not like any of those guys :lol




oh really?

- he didn't cost teams possible championships like Adrian Dantley?
- he didn't have it out for coaches like Latrell Sprewell?
- he didn't try and pad triple doubles like Ricky Davis?
- he didn't quit on the franchise that drafted him like Steve Francis?
- he didn't drive teammates away like Gilbert Arenas?
- he didn't have epic finals choke jobs like JR smith?
- he didn't cherry pick rebounds and force assists like Russell Westbrook?
- he didn't freeze under pressure like Demar Derozan?
- he didn't become a journeyman burning bridges like Dwight Howard?

[ShawkFactory]

oh really?

- he didn't cost teams possible championships like Adrian Dantley?
- he didn't have it out for coaches like Latrell Sprewell?
- he didn't try and pad triple doubles like Ricky Davis?
- he didn't quit on the franchise that drafted him like Steve Francis?
- he didn't drive teammates away like Gilbert Arenas?
- he didn't have epic finals choke jobs like JR smith?
- he didn't cherry pick rebounds and force assists like Russell Westbrook?
- he didn't freeze under pressure like Demar Derozan?
- he didn't become a journeyman burning bridges like Dwight Howard?
His game is not like them. He's a far greater player than anyone you just listed.

People would have put up with Sprewell and Dantley's and Arenas and all these people shit if they had the game Lebron did.

Francis was traded for McGrady btw. He was very salty about being traded from the team that drafted him.

[RRR3]

Ok. You said it was arguable.

And then implied that you'd still take Luka on your team by saying you wouldn't want Lebron in a million years.

You're getting pretty technical. It's still retarded.
“But I didn’t say he was better than LeBron u gaiz :cry:”

Classic Kenny when he’s called out.

[Smoke117]

how is that retarded. theres tons of guys i wouldn't want on my team that are considered great individual players




- Adrian Dantley
- Latrell Sprewell
- Ricky Davis
- Steve Francis
- Gilbert Arenas
- JR smith
- Lebron James
- Russell Westbrook
- Demar Derozan
- Dwight Howard

among many others

Lumping LeBron in with those guys...lmfao. It's like you enjoy being belittled. You have to when you go out of your way to post such stupidity. Obsessively hating LeBron isn't going to change the fact that he's one of the 2 or 3 greatest players to play this game. You really need to just get over it.

[RRR3]

Lumping LeBron in with those guys...lmfao. It's like you enjoy being belittled. You have to when you go out of your way to post such stupidity. Obsessively hating LeBron is going to change the fact that he's one of the 2 or 3 greatest players to play this game. You really need to just get over it.
This is all because he can’t cope with the fact that LeBron is better than his lover Kobe :roll:

[superduper]

I don't agree with OP but if he doesn't like LeBron? Or rather, anyone that feels LeBron is not best for their team?

Is that really a "bad" thing?

I mean, LeBron ball is real. Ditto with being blamed (aside from LeBron) for everything when shit hits the fan. KD came out a month ago and basically called LeBron-led teams toxic :oldlol:

Very valid point that is being ignored due to the realness of it.

Bran is a great player, great player. But it's automatically considered trolling if someone doesn't want to take on his million downsides he brings with him? As said, LeBron ball is very real.

[imdaman99]

Stop overrating Doncic. Holy shit you guys are unbearable.

[kennethgriffen]

His game is not like them. He's a far greater player than anyone you just listed.

People would have put up with Sprewell and Dantley's and Arenas and all these people shit if they had the game Lebron did.

Francis was traded for McGrady btw. He was very salty about being traded from the team that drafted him.



skill has nothing to do with being toxic

and the rockets didn't draft francis lol

[kennethgriffen]

This is all because he can’t cope with the fact that LeBron is better than his lover Kobe :roll:


yeah lebron became annoying after 2016 when he finally had a good enough resume to be in the convo ( if you actually credit him with colluded/ring chasing/bail out/suspension/roided mess


prior to that i loved lebron

[ShawkFactory]

skill has nothing to do with being toxic

and the rockets didn't draft francis lol
What does that matter? He was upset that the team he

[kennethgriffen]

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory]What does that matter? He was upset that the team he

[ShawkFactory]

kids


:lol
It

[kennethgriffen]

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory]It

[kennethgriffen]

and btw... steve francis DID hold out and told vancouver he wouldn't play for them after putting on the biggest baby moment in draft history

https://i.imgur.com/IW8simF.gif

[Manny98]

You only say that because he's white

I bet if Doncic was black he wouldn't even be in your top 50

[PP34Deuce]

Small forward is the most stacked position in basketball. You literally have

Durant
Bron
Kawhi
Giannis
Paul George

All of these guys are in the top 15 as current NBA players.

Then you have Curry, Harden, Anthony Davis, Westbrook, Embiid, Jokic, etc....

We haven't even discussed, Simmons, Butler, Tobias Harris, Oladipo.......

[kennethgriffen]

You only say that because he's white

I bet if Doncic was black he wouldn't even be in your top 50


wouldnt i have put jokic in my original top 10 if i was racially motivated


and why would kobe/griffey/deion/tyson be my favorite athletes growing up


and why would i say nash ruined the mvp award. hes a white canadian for god sakes



ive never told anything but the truth

[FKAri]

ive never told anything but the truth
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[Rudeboy3]

Luka is a very likeable guy and a really good player with a bright future BUT the way people dick ride him like he's the greatest rookie of all time is super annoying. I've seen people on social media say he's the next Larry Bird, or that he's better than James Harden ever was and already the king of step backs. That's just taking trolling to whole new level.
Luk is the king of stepbacks because he actually doesn't travel when he steps back