Gillette preaching against "toxic masculinity"

[DaHeezy]

https://youtu.be/CCT4nYIpRSs

What the *uck is going on in this world? So being a man is now toxic? The commerical depicts men bbqing as an expression of toxic masculinity. Approaching a girl in public is considered harrassment.

We're at a place where being a guy is now offensive :facepalm

[NumberSix]

Be a man. Grow a beard. Don’t use Gillette’s little razors.

[DaHeezy]

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Be a man. Grow a beard. Don

[CelticBaller]

Just being a man is an act of violence towards women

[Akrazotile]

https://youtu.be/CCT4nYIpRSs

What the *uck is going on in this world? So being a man is now toxic? The commerical depicts men bbqing as an expression of toxic masculinity. Approaching a girl in public is considered harrassment.

We're at a place where being a guy is now offensive :facepalm


You know the drill OP.

PorcupineCo.com


:crazysam:

[DaHeezy]

You know the drill OP.

PorcupineCo.com


:crazysam:

:roll:

They need to capitalize!

[DaHeezy]

Didn't see the other thread.

Mods merge please

[Long Duck Dong]

I'd be less concerned about a stupid commercial and more concerned about the American Psychological Association coming out with a report, a few days ago, matter-of-factly stating masculinity is "harmful" to society.

Traits like"
"stoicism

[Akrazotile]

I'd be less concerned about a stupid commercial and more concerned about the American Psychological Association coming out with a report, a few days ago, matter-of-factly stating masculinity is "harmful" to society.

Traits like"
"stoicism’, ‘competitiveness’, ‘achievement’, ‘eschewal of the appearance of weakness’, ‘adventure’, and ‘risk’ are all deemed negative.

The report borders on racism, it's states that masculinity is the reason African Americans get into so much trouble with the law, and that masculinity in minorities is devastating to homosexuals, transgenders and individuals who do not identify with a traditional binary gender.

These people have been "helping" us for decades, yet more and more people require psychological treatment, psychiatric drugs, more and more dependence and addiction to these drugs, we have higher suicide and depression rates. Seems like a self serving master plan, make people think they are crazy which ends up becoming a self fulfilling prophecy and keeping business booming for psychologists/psychiatrists/big pharma.




https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/424829-traditional-masculinity-deemed-harmful-by-american

Full APA report:

https://www.apa.org/about/policy/boys-men-practice-guidelines.pdf


White men in America have essentially become the jews of Nazi Germany. The public resents their success, their influence, and the things they have, and is methodically developing ideological justifications for taking them down.

Obviously from a numbers perspective white men arent as vulnerable to mass violence as the jews were, but the same psychological factors are at work in terms of pathological resentment, and the same environment is developing.

[jongib369]

There is such a thing as toxic masculinity, just like there is toxic femininity. To deny it exists at all is retarded, but the extent in which a lot of people take it these days is reaching and shitting on positive traits that come of it.

[Akrazotile]

There is such a thing as toxic masculinity, just like there is toxic femininity. To deny it exists at all is retarded, but the extent in which a lot of people take it these days is reaching and shitting on positive traits that come of it.


Exactly. There is an approprite balance for everything. But the balance for men is inerently going to be different from that of women. And the imbalance between them will inevitably lead to more dominance and success for one group, which is what is resented.

Many women (and many weak men) want to neuter stronger men from possessing qualities they resent - because they know they will never possess those qualities themselves. “If I cant have it, no one can!”

It’s a way of restraining success to even the playing field for the weak, a la communism.

[jongib369]

Exactly. There is an approprite balance for everything. But the balance for men is inerently going to be different from that of women. And the imbalance between them will inevitably lead to more dominance and success for one group, which is what is resented.

Many women (and many weak men) want to neuter stronger men from possessing qualities they resent - because they know they will never possess those qualities themselves. “If I cant have it, no one can!”

It’s a way of restraining success to even the playing field for the weak, a la communism.
Yeah I think we're on the same page. Stoicism for example can be good in certain situations, other cases it might be good to open up a bit and show emotion. To show it's there, but you're capable of controlling it is an important lesson to give a kid. He'll be open to talking about his problems and not go ****ing crazy, but yet hopefully be able to keep his shit together when a group of assholes try to use a perceived weakness against him.

I'm thinking about moments in my life where people bullied me before I grew a pair, versus when I stood up for myself or others and it saddens me that people are going to raise boys to be soft as tissue paper. Like a moment when I saw a younger football player in HS bully a kid. Threw him across the hallway, held him against the lockers and threatened to ruin his athletic career by breaking him if he wants to continue to use his physical strength on someone. Strength, and being humble go hand in hand. use it to lift others up, not put them down unless it's deserving. I'd want my son to stand up for someone like that

Or a moment where people tried doing it to me...Again somewhat similar scenario a couple hot shots a grade older than me on the football team saw me walking to get past them. Hallway was crowded as shit, they looked at eachother, smirked and stepped towards each other in such a way so I couldnt get around, or through them. I got pissed and without missing a beat in my steps just rammed through them and said get the **** out of my way. They could have beat the shit out of me, but they saw I wasn't weak and left me alone. The kids these people are raising will hesitantly try to move around them and in a shaky voice "uh uh excuse me". I'm not raising a bitch, boy or girl.

[egokiller]

https://youtu.be/CCT4nYIpRSs

What the *uck is going on in this world? So being a man is now toxic? The commerical depicts men bbqing as an expression of toxic masculinity. Approaching a girl in public is considered harrassment.

We're at a place where being a guy is now offensive :facepalm

If you are referring to the part of the video where the guy says "not cool", P&G is trying to show that whistling, shouting, or making a comment of a sexual nature to a woman passing by is wrong. The problem is that they didn't do a good job trying to show this. A better way would have been to show the guy is about to whistle before being pulled back. I get what they are trying to show here, but there's a better way to go about it without coming off as stereotyping an entire male gender.

All this being said, The APA Can’t Spin Its Way Out of Its Attack on ‘Traditional Masculinity’

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/01/traditional-masculinity-backlash-against-new-apa-guidelines/

[Ben Simmons 25]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koPmuEyP3a0


:roll: :roll: :roll:

[jongib369]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JVmtaTVKPU

[warriorfan]

https://youtu.be/CCT4nYIpRSs

What the *uck is going on in this world? So being a man is now toxic? The commerical depicts men bbqing as an expression of toxic masculinity. Approaching a girl in public is considered harrassment.

We're at a place where being a guy is now offensive :facepalm

Real men don

[Lakers Legend#32]

All Men Are Rapists.

[kennethgriffen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koPmuEyP3a0


:roll: :roll: :roll:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q81NnURns6w

[kennethgriffen]

All Men Are Rapists.

way of the jungle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8UKf65NOzM

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-020210333474f6cc250ef45f4d078a37

[Hawker]

[QUOTE=warriorfan]Real men don

[dunksby]

Real men don't use their products anyway.

[Ben Simmons 25]

Real men don’t care if they are offensive. That is the spirit of “toxic masculinity”. If you complain about not being able to show your masculinity then....you didnt have enough in the first place.

Cliff notes, real men don’t got time to hear about people complaining about them being men

(Not singling you out op, there is a gang of dudes who do the same shit) stop whining and just do you, if someone has a problem ask them to come and solve it

https://i.postimg.cc/4yRkCg73/4-CD7-C13-D-2-EEE-4-DA9-AB1-F-DE68148224-CC.gif

The ad is hilarious to me and not upsetting and if you aren’t amused by the hypocrisy then you haven’t been paying attention. The ad is suggesting that an extremely large percentage if not most men are misogynistic assholes. This would be the rough equivalent of a company who sells products geared towards women creating an advertisement somehow suggesting they should start/stop [insert sexist sentiment towards women here].

Let me put it another way... this ad is basically saying that sexism against men is ok, but I guarantee that if a sexist ad targeting women came out, these same people would lose their shit.

This isn’t like the Nike situation at all. I don’t see how Gillette could ever possibly hope to sell MORE razors as a result of running this.

I’m not upset but I do find it to be ****ing hilarious and I personally will think twice about buying a Gillette product ever again mainly because I’m tired of political narratives being forced down my throat all the time unless I disconnect myself from all forms of media including the internet.

[egokiller]

[QUOTE=Ben Simmons 25]https://i.postimg.cc/4yRkCg73/4-CD7-C13-D-2-EEE-4-DA9-AB1-F-DE68148224-CC.gif

The ad is hilarious to me and not upsetting and if you aren

[stalkerforlife]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koPmuEyP3a0


:roll: :roll: :roll:

They're deleting dislikes and comments. :roll:

The best a corporation can get.

[Ben Simmons 25]

The fact that you are going to think twice about buying a Gillette/P&G product can only mean that you are somehow triggered by all this. :lol


Well I mean yeah if you actually read my post I clearly stated I’m tired of political agendas being rammed down my throat 24/7 regardless if I agree or not. And I don’t need my razor company trying to do my thinking for me about stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with razors.

That stance has nothing to do with being masculine or not.

Unless your definiton of masculine is completely disregarding everything and everyone for your own benefit and not caring about anyone else’s activities literally ever. That’s not being masculine. That’s called narcissism. But I mean hey... clearly you’re in your late 30s/40s and definitely NOT your teens or early 20s considering that you just now found out about efiling your taxes within the past year or two. Nope... definitely not. “Good riddens!”

[dude77]

:applause: :lol


https://i.ibb.co/HPzzffv/50667351-2309340179283884-65145913621872640-n.jpg (https://ibb.co/6tPP77h)

[Ben Simmons 25]

Holy shit that

[TheMan]

Holy shit, you dudes triggered by a lame ass commercial are pretty pathetic. :facepalm

I saw the ad on youtube, its stupid and it will backfire on them since they are essentially throwing shade at their customer base but it won't affect me one way of the other...honestly, people just like being fake outraged. For example, whatever happened to all the Trumptards who swore they won't watch the NFL anymore? Yup, they're watching again even though they know where black NFL players stand on the whole kneeling pseudo controversy.

Yup, fake outrage.

[nathanjizzle]

Triggered snowflakes :roll:

[SomeBlackDude]

Triggered snowflakes :roll:

this.

last week it was ocasio-cortez dancing in high school.

today it's razor commercials.

delicate, dainty egos.

who even watches commercials these days?

:biggums:

[DaHeezy]

Holy shit, you dudes triggered by a lame ass commercial are pretty pathetic. :facepalm

I saw the ad on youtube, its stupid and it will backfire on them since they are essentially throwing shade at their customer base but it won't affect me one way of the other...honestly, people just like being fake outraged. For example, whatever happened to all the Trumptards who swore they won't watch the NFL anymore? Yup, they're watching again even though they know where black NFL players stand on the whole kneeling pseudo controversy.

Yup, fake outrage.

Yet the sight of a red hat sends people spiraling?

There are several things wrong with this commercial. It's not just attacking masculinity. There are so many undertones. Like the black man saving the day. Suggesting only guys cyberbully. The comments Gillette deleted. I'm disgusted by it. But I'm not gonna start a rally and go screaming on the streets like Libs do when they get their feelings hurt. That's the difference. Non-libs look at it for a second. Get disgusted. Move on with life. Libs can't let things go....

[egokiller]

Well I mean yeah if you actually read my post I clearly stated I’m tired of political agendas being rammed down my throat 24/7 regardless if I agree or not. And I don’t need my razor company trying to do my thinking for me about stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with razors.

That stance has nothing to do with being masculine or not.

Unless your definiton of masculine is completely disregarding everything and everyone for your own benefit and not caring about anyone else’s activities literally ever. That’s not being masculine. That’s called narcissism. But I mean hey... clearly you’re in your late 30s/40s and definitely NOT your teens or early 20s considering that you just now found out about efiling your taxes within the past year or two. Nope... definitely not. “Good riddens!”

I could give a shit less about what commercials they put out. To me, the biggest thing is:

1. Does the product work on not?
2. Is it at the right price point?

I'm not going to just stop buying their razors because of some silly commercial that has nothing to do with their development division at P&G but rather some nut jobs in their PR/marketing division.

Also, I never claimed to have just found out about e-filing taxes. You have to pay attention. I've actually been using olt.com since 2000. :applause:

All that being said, there really is no reason for you to be getting triggered by this.

[Akrazotile]

[QUOTE=Ben Simmons 25]Well I mean yeah if you actually read my post I clearly stated [B]I

[Akrazotile]

I could give a shit less about what commercials they put out. To me, the biggest thing is:

1. Does the product work on not?
2. Is it at the right price point?

I'm not going to just stop buying their razors because of some silly commercial that has nothing to do with their development division at P&G but rather some nut jobs in their PR/marketing division.

Also, I never claimed to have just found out about e-filing taxes. You have to pay attention. I've actually been using olt.com since 2000. :applause:

All that being said, there really is no reason for you to be getting triggered by this.

Of course youre not. This comes as a surprise to no one.

[DaHeezy]

I could give a shit less about what commercials they put out. To me, the biggest thing is:

1. Does the product work on not?
2. Is it at the right price point?

I'm not going to just stop buying their razors because of some silly commercial that has nothing to do with their development division at P&G but rather some nut jobs in their PR/marketing division.

Also, I never claimed to have just found out about e-filing taxes. You have to pay attention. I've actually been using olt.com since 2000. :applause:

All that being said, there really is no reason for you to be getting triggered by this.

Would you buy a Lebron James shoe if it was the best fit for you at the right price point?

I didn't think so. Some people don't support things morally.

[TheMan]

Yet the sight of a red hat sends people spiraling?

There are several things wrong with this commercial. It's not just attacking masculinity. There are so many undertones. Like the black man saving the day. Suggesting only guys cyberbully. The comments Gillette deleted. I'm disgusted by it. But I'm not gonna start a rally and go screaming on the streets like Libs do when they get their feelings hurt. That's the difference. Non-libs look at it for a second. Get disgusted. Move on with life. Libs can't let things go....
:oldlol:

You have that Ben Simmons poster who def is not a lib being so triggered he said he won't buy Gillette products anymore, lmao

Trumpys swore off the NFL last year but are right at it again this season...both sides love getting outraged, don't tell me that most of the triggered snowflakes leaving comments in the Gillette ad aren't righties. The very fact you can't see that conservatives also get their jimmies all knotted up over unimportant shit just shows me how much of a biased partisan hack you are...me, I tend more left but yes I do see how many SJWs are unfortunately on my side of the political spectrum and it makes me cringe. I am far from a PC SJW you canuck beaner.

[CelticBaller]

Someone on reddit really said pressuring a woman to have sex is rape :roll:

[tpols]

hmm...with this news it appears some market share may have opened up for blades...I wonder if anyone here is selling some cheap knockoffs

[Ben Simmons 25]

Of course youre not. This comes as a surprise to no one.

:roll:

[Akrazotile]

hmm...with this news it appears some market share may have opened up for blades...I wonder if anyone here is selling some cheap knockoffs


Someone is selling a good alternative, and in fact someone has already sold a few more in the last couple days.

What has someone else been doing with his time, capital and intellect (such as it is) lately?

Somethin tells me not much :lol :confusedshrug:

[Levity]

Harry's Razors new slogan "Hey, were just here to shave your face"

$$$$$

[egokiller]

Of course youre not. This comes as a surprise to no one.

Unless you are triggered, if you were buying their products before this commercial, you’ll buy them afterwards.

The other option would be dollarshaveclub.com

[AirBonner]

who the hell would shave? :biggums:

[Hawker]

:oldlol:

You have that Ben Simmons poster who def is not a lib being so triggered he said he won't buy Gillette products anymore, lmao

Trumpys swore off the NFL last year but are right at it again this season...both sides love getting outraged, don't tell me that most of the triggered snowflakes leaving comments in the Gillette ad aren't righties. The very fact you can't see that conservatives also get their jimmies all knotted up over unimportant shit just shows me how much of a biased partisan hack you are...me, I tend more left but yes I do see how many SJWs are unfortunately on my side of the political spectrum and it makes me cringe. I am far from a PC SJW you canuck beaner.

It's nowhere near the level of those on the left dude...such a false equivalency. Conservatives aren't going out in protest marching the streets destroying shit like those on the left are. Conservatives weren't marching in the street and trying to block people from seeing Obama's inauguration. You got leftists/liberals literally causing destruction when a conservative comes to speak at a public university.

Conservatives also don't have as much power culturally as the left does. I mean, you say that your side does cringey shit but you got right along with it getting offended as a Mexican due to Trump. It's sad.

[Ben Simmons 25]

:oldlol:

You have that Ben Simmons poster who def is not a lib being so triggered he said he won't buy Gillette products anymore, lmao

Trumpys swore off the NFL last year but are right at it again this season...both sides love getting outraged, don't tell me that most of the triggered snowflakes leaving comments in the Gillette ad aren't righties. The very fact you can't see that conservatives also get their jimmies all knotted up over unimportant shit just shows me how much of a biased partisan hack you are...me, I tend more left but yes I do see how many SJWs are unfortunately on my side of the political spectrum and it makes me cringe. I am far from a PC SJW you canuck beaner.

I didn’t say I wouldn’t buy them anymore... I said I would think twice about it... before this I would never hesitate to buy their product based on anything other than price but now they’ve added another hesitation and I guarantee I’m not alone. The question for them is did they penetrate the collective consciousness enough to actually see an increase in sales and I very much doubt that.

To compare the outrage from the right to the left and insinuate that they’re equivalent is probably one of the most ignorant things I’ve ever read in my entire life.

I will say though, that swearing off the NFL is also one of the most empty promises ever. The NFL doesn’t have football competitors... Gillette does have razor competition. BUT NFL viewership is in decline but that doesn’t prove the protests are the reason.

[hold this L]

There is such a thing as toxic masculinity, just like there is toxic femininity. To deny it exists at all is retarded, but the extent in which a lot of people take it these days is reaching and shitting on positive traits that come of it.
I'm curious what is toxic femininity? I ask because this is never shown on TV, on the media, or any of these commercials or studies unlike toxic masculinity.

(I agree with you by the way)

[hold this L]

Holy shit, you dudes triggered by a lame ass commercial are pretty pathetic. :facepalm

I saw the ad on youtube, its stupid and it will backfire on them since they are essentially throwing shade at their customer base but it won't affect me one way of the other...honestly, people just like being fake outraged. For example, whatever happened to all the Trumptards who swore they won't watch the NFL anymore? Yup, they're watching again even though they know where black NFL players stand on the whole kneeling pseudo controversy.

Yup, fake outrage.
I think fake outrage is embarrassing, but this is a case where Gillete should get a lot of shit for. I want to know who is the marketing director for this? Who signed off on this? How was this agreed upon with their marketing agency.. because it sounds like the marketing director and the entirety of the people who were user tested were likely on the hardcore SJW side. To the insane levels. We're taught in the first semester that you don't shit all over your core audience, which Gillette basically spent an entire commercial doing. :lol

[dunksby]

I'm curious what is toxic femininity? I ask because this is never shown on TV, on the media, or any of these commercials or studies unlike toxic masculinity.

(I agree with you by the way)
There is no such thing as "toxic masculinity" or "toxic femininity", the correct term is toxic behaviour or toxic personality.

Why is that we keep hearing about this new buzz word? Because the strategy of divide and conquer has been adopted by many states to actually be used in governing the people and keep them distracted through identity politics. It's not polarising to use terms which hold each member of society to the same standard, hence the dominant discourse will be shaped around popularising terminology which compels people to identify with a group assigned to them by the same rhetoric. Attacking those who are of straight sexual orientation, targeting those who are white, demonising character traits which most men relate to etc.

One of the biggest achievements of the enlightenment and in general human civilisation has been the discovery of the fact that empowering the individual is the best way to letting those with great potential to drive our species forward through their brilliance. A concept which ironically is the foundation of the "American Dream", if you think about it, there is nothing more empowering than believing any individual- regardless what background they come from - has the opportunity to make a great life for himself. Human history and especially American history is full of such examples, but unfortunately over the recent decades the talk of town has been diverted back towards identity politics and disempowering the individual.

[hold this L]

There is no such thing as "toxic masculinity" or "toxic femininity", the correct term is toxic behaviour or toxic personality.

Why is that we keep hearing about this new buzz word? Because the strategy of divide and conquer has been adopted by many states to actually be used in governing the people and keep them distracted through identity politics. It's not polarising to use terms which hold each member of society to the same standard, hence the dominant discourse will be shaped around popularising terminology which compels people to identify with a group assigned to them by the same rhetoric. Attacking those who are of straight sexual orientation, targeting those who are white, demonising character traits which most men relate to etc.

One of the biggest achievements of the enlightenment and in general human civilisation has been the discovery of the fact that empowering the individual is the best way to letting those with great potential to drive our species forward through their brilliance. A concept which ironically is the foundation of the "American Dream", if you think about it, there is nothing more empowering than believing any individual- regardless what background they come from - has the opportunity to make a great life for himself. Human history and especially American history is full of such examples, but unfortunately over the recent decades the talk of town has been diverted back towards identity politics and disempowering the individual.
I was being rhetorical, but good post. I agree with you.

[scuzzy]

and this is why I buy blades of freedom

[Akrazotile]

and this is why I buy blades of freedom

Can confirm.

[jongib369]

I'm curious what is toxic femininity? I ask because this is never shown on TV, on the media, or any of these commercials or studies unlike toxic masculinity.

(I agree with you by the way)

I agree with dunksby for the most part, but there does seem to be some manifestations of what could be considered toxic femininity through toxic people because of the culture in which we've shaped women. Anyone can show this behavior(And not all women do this), but a holier than thou attitude towards men, and playing the victim can be an example I guess. Might not be the best thing to bring up but for instance they don't like bossy men, but if you call a woman bossy you're sexist...Wut? lmao. They can have all the opinions in the world about us, but we're not allowed to have opinions back. Even in instances they have more power like rape accusations, child custody etc. I've heard so many stories from friends that are women about the back stabbing, gossiping, passive aggressiveness, competition etc that it parallels some things they don't like about masculinity. Some feminists actually address it, and they blame gender roles for it. So some actually blame us for that, others point the fingers at themselves. But for the most part we only hear about the male hating aspect of it...Because as guys we care more so about the shit being thrown our way, and the same vice versa. Every god damn thing these days is tribal shit flinging without actually listening to the other side lol.

I feel like I'm reaching, but I guess what I'm saying is if THIS is the lens in which we're going to look at things with it goes both ways

[jongib369]

http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Benevolent_sexism

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Benevolent sexism

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Benevolent sexism is a variety of sexism that is, on its surface, positive ("benevolent") toward women.

Examples
"Women are so good at communication"
This is an example of essentialism. To the extent that women seem to be better at communication than men, it's that higher expectations are placed on women.
"Women are great at understanding the user, so you should work on the front end" (Pigeonholing)
The belief that women have more empathy is another example of essentialism. Men are able to avoid learning social skills because they're not expected to be empathetic.
"Women are nicer and more polite than men"
This is benevolent sexism when stated as an innate truth about women, outside the context that women are systematically punished for not being excessively polite and deferential.
"Women are too smart to work long hours for little reward" [1]
If working long hours wasn't rewarding, then men wouldn't do it. Of course, many women don't want to work long hours for little reward, and most men don't either.
"Women are more interested in applications of technology to help people than in theoretical work"
This view was expressed in the book Unlocking the Clubhouse, and was later debunked.
"Women aren't violent"
Women can participate in the violent enforcement of patriarchy by committing violence against children and other women (an example of a patriarchal bargain). Women can and do commit child abuse; lesbian, bisexual or pansexual women in relationships with other women or with non-binary people can also engage in domestic violence against their non-male partners.

:biggums: :wtf: Am I missing something here lmao

[red1]

the wimminz have infiltrated the male grooming industry marketing departments.

when gilette becomes a laughingstock among it's target userbase the boss can tell them "this is why we don't let women in the boardroom"

[SomeBlackDude]

the wimminz have infiltrated the male grooming industry marketing departments.

when gilette becomes a laughingstock among it's target userbase the boss can tell them "this is why we don't let women in the boardroom"

i think something around 30% of gillette's customers are the wimmenz.

like nike, they know what they're doing.

same meltdowns happened after the swoosh empire signed kap to a spokesman deal.

alt right was convinced it was the end of nike.

sales went through the roof after that (https://abcnews.go.com/Business/nike-sales-booming-kaepernick-ad-invalidating-critics/story?id=59957137).

these multi billion $ companies pay hefty fees to market research groups and advertisers every year for a reason.

they know what they're doing (https://www.referralcandy.com/blog/gillette-marketing-strategy/).

[red1]

i think something around 30% of gillette's customers are the wimmenz.

like nike, they know what they're doing.

same meltdowns happened after the swoosh empire signed kap to a spokesman deal.

alt right was convinced it was the end of nike.

sales went through the roof after that (https://abcnews.go.com/Business/nike-sales-booming-kaepernick-ad-invalidating-critics/story?id=59957137).

these multi billion $ companies pay hefty fees to market research groups and advertisers every year for a reason.

they know what they're doing (https://www.referralcandy.com/blog/gillette-marketing-strategy/).
yeah I don't think they expected this many people to dislike these new ads. I'm not saying this'll take them out or anything I'm saying it turned them into a laughingstock among a lot of men which is a fact.

[SomeBlackDude]

yeah I don't think they expected this many people to dislike these new ads. I'm not saying this'll take them out or anything I'm saying it turned them into a laughingstock among a lot of men which is a fact.

no one's gonna remember this commercial in a month. modern society has turned people's attention span to that of gerbils.

but gillette's name recognition increased bigly. end of the day, boiled down- that's the name of the game.

and when the next insignificant commercial or decade old video from high school or some other meaningless distraction has the usual suspects in meltdown mode, the ceo of gillette is gonna be counting money at a table with the ceos of starbucks (https://www.eater.com/2017/1/30/14443194/starbucks-boycott-trump-supporters) & netflix (https://mic.com/articles/168207/netflixs-dear-white-people-nonetflix-boycott-emerges-as-some-netflix-users-cry-foul#.bD8OpjlN7), and phil knight.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/3o7TKE4b1JXgOw9Qdi/source.gif

[Akrazotile]

i think something around 30% of gillette's customers are the wimmenz.

like nike, they know what they're doing.

same meltdowns happened after the swoosh empire signed kap to a spokesman deal.

alt right was convinced it was the end of nike.

sales went through the roof after that (https://abcnews.go.com/Business/nike-sales-booming-kaepernick-ad-invalidating-critics/story?id=59957137).

these multi billion $ companies pay hefty fees to market research groups and advertisers every year for a reason.

they know what they're doing (https://www.referralcandy.com/blog/gillette-marketing-strategy/).


Thats true. The rich white men in Nike’s board room, whose documented political contributions skew Republican, made a killing off anti-white, anti-corporate, anti-republican SJW’s by running a Kaep ad :oldlol:. They knew exactly what they were doing. Obviously conservatives knew what they were doing with the ad as well. The only people who actually believed buying nike would suddenly empower minorities and spread the economic wealth around :lol were the woke, progressive, intellectual counter culture-resistors :roll: And of course they got it all wrong as usual.

The Nike thing was a perfect microcosm of left wing politics in America. Now Proctor and Gamble is trying to get in on that. Hey, maybe itll work out. I do feel like supporting Kap individually is a bit different than shaming men generally, so this feels like a tougher sell. But that’s probably overestimating the SJW left. Their stupidity is pretty reliable economically, as we’ve seen.

[SomeBlackDude]

[QUOTE=Akrazotile]Thats true. The rich white men in Nike

[red1]

no one's gonna remember this commercial in a month. modern society has turned people's attention span to that of gerbils.

but gillette's name recognition increased bigly. end of the day, boiled down- that's the name of the game.

and when the next insignificant commercial or decade old video from high school or some other meaningless distraction has the usual suspects in meltdown mode, the ceo of gillette is gonna be counting money at a table with the ceos of starbucks (https://www.eater.com/2017/1/30/14443194/starbucks-boycott-trump-supporters) & netflix (https://mic.com/articles/168207/netflixs-dear-white-people-nonetflix-boycott-emerges-as-some-netflix-users-cry-foul#.bD8OpjlN7), and phil knight.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/3o7TKE4b1JXgOw9Qdi/source.gif
yeah that's fine I buy gillette razors because I like them always get a good deal getting shit in bulk I don't give a **** about the ad on that level.

it's just mildly annoying and a good representation of how soft and whiny society is currently. hence why I'm laughing and I'm assuming many others as well given the hilarious amount of dislikes it got. :oldlol:

[Akrazotile]

precisely.

gillette's parent company, as you pointed out, is proctor & gamble, one of conservative culture warrior tucker carlson's biggest advertising revenue streams (https://www.foxnewsadvertisers.com/2018/10/22/top-tucker-carlson-advertisers-3q2018-quarterly-summary/).

so while the talking heads at fox are ranting and raving (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIN5rlCJB4M) about the war on men started by sjw gillette, they're litrally eating off of/staying gucci'ed down to the socks off gillette money. :lol


Of course they are.

It’s not about liberal or conservative for P&G, nor is it even about that for FoxNews. It’s about $. The trick is to play both sides of the fence while making each group think youre in it for them. If Fox viewers move in a new political direction, so will Fox. They dont care. Theyre just tryin to make a buck.

There’s two kinds of people in this country. And it’s not Democrats or Republicans.

It’s people who understand BLADES OF FREEDOM, and people who dont.

People who understand the public importance of making transparency and integrity the cornerstone of a business, even at the expense of market cap. And people who dont know about all that, theyre just gonna do what everyone else is doing.

Unfortunately those of us in the former group are a tiny minority :( :cry:

[SomeBlackDude]

[QUOTE=Akrazotile] It

[Akrazotile]

subtle marketing. subliminal. :applause:


Well truth is the foundation of BLADES OF FREEDOM, so inevitably some cross marketing is bound to happen as I simply tell it like it is :pimp:

[Lakers Legend#32]

Men with very small p3nis' are the ones objecting to this ad.

[hold this L]

Men with very small p3nis' are the ones objecting to this ad.
https://twitter.com/RoamingMil/status/1085726070135902209

Did you get your answer yet?

[dude77]

the homos and feminists are trying to destroy what it means to be a 'man' .. they're trying to feminize men .. look at that stupid scene where the guy stops the other guy from approaching a woman lol .. that almost looks like a comedy sketch because it's so absurd .. also, there must be something in the water or in something .. plastics etc .. way too many soy fggts walking around for there not to be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=60&v=mgzHu3pxgG8

[kennethgriffen]

Men with p3nis' are the ones objecting to this ad.



fixed

[SomeBlackDude]

[QUOTE]'Toxic masculinity' not harmful to Procter & Gamble Co. sales growth

P&G improves revenue outlook for 2019

Procter & Gamble Co.

[Akrazotile]

https://i.postimg.cc/zXvhMRss/P-G-Stock.jpg


every.

time.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/3o7TKE4b1JXgOw9Qdi/source.gif


Theyve got the world on a string.

The same people who are cheerleading this move and buying up merch from this mega conglomerate are the same people complaining about capitalism and corporatism :lol

Meh, what can ya do? Dumb people are just fish in a barrel for the avaricious. And the political fringes have a shit ton of dumb people.

[hold this L]

So no such thing as a bad publicity then

[dunksby]

Yo I need my ISHiots to spin this in a positive light:

http://i64.tinypic.com/141ijpw.png

[Wardell Curry]

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-smhxEAJPYSs/WLtDvGi5RPI/AAAAAAAASs4/MjTBtkcQ080siAg3ke-NWJx2lCgbbKGDQCLcB/s1600/15%2BSteph%2BCurry%2Blooking%2Boff%2Binto%2Bthe%2B distance.gif

That is absolutely disgusting.

We should not applaud people for abusing themselves.

This would be the equivalent to cheering a guy on for indulging in porn literally every single day.

You can view it any which way you want but that chick is headed to an early grave due to self abuse via food and laziness.

Absolutely disgusting.

[Wardell Curry]

We don

[AlternativeAcc.]

[QUOTE=Wardell Curry]We don

[FKAri]

Can someone link an actual ad or something rather than some internet rant video?

[hold this L]

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/p-gs-gillette-razor-business-is-not-for-sale-even-after-8-billion-writedown-122137193.html

8 billion dollar write down

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[coin24]

I guess transmen don't buy many razors:lol :lol

Get woke go broke! How fu*king stupid would you have to be to shit on 99.9% of your market:oldlol:

[Shogon]

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/p-gs-gillette-razor-business-is-not-for-sale-even-after-8-billion-writedown-122137193.html

8 billion dollar write down

https://media1.giphy.com/media/xT0GqfvuVpNqEf3z2w/giphy.gif

I'm not entirely sure I understand what their CFO even meant when he blames value of Gillette on "currency devaluation." That doesn't even make any sense... if a currency devalues, the paper value of everything goes... up... not $8 billion down... what am I missing or misunderstanding?

If the value of the dollar goes down, the dollar value of Gillette should go up by default, if everything else remains the same.

And how is he saying sales growth is up all over the place and yet their valuation is massively down? What?

[warriorfan]

I'm not entirely sure I understand what their CFO even meant when he blames value of Gillette on "currency devaluation." That doesn't even make any sense... if a currency devalues, the paper value of everything goes... up... not $8 billion down... what am I missing or misunderstanding?

If the value of the dollar goes down, the dollar value of Gillette should go up by default, if everything else remains the same.

And how is he saying sales growth is up all over the place and yet their valuation is massively down? What?

Some good ol fashioned bullshitting. :oldlol:

[egokiller]

A small part of the reason why they are $8 billion down is because the CFO doesn't understand what currency devaluation is, much less what net working capital or ebit is. :roll:

[stalkerforlife]

Thanks for bumping.

Reminded me not to buy them.

[fsvr54]

Mental gymnastics. Their sales are down because of their man-hating campaign . That's it. I wish someone on board would have the balls to come out a and say it.

[eliteballer]

Sales are down because no one wants to pay $10 a razor and there are alternatives now.

Schick is a much better deal.

[coin24]

Mental gymnastics. Their sales are down because of their man-hating campaign . That's it. I wish someone on board would have the balls to come out a and say it.


One of the idiots actually came out and said it was worth it to support the me too movement and inclusion / whatever the fu*k they try to justify there agenda politics as this week.:lol :facepalm

When will people learn to stop bending over for the .1% and the Simon's on Twitter?? Any time you hear the words twitter backlash you know it's complete bulshit to justify one persons ideals

[hold this L]

Sales are down because no one wants to pay $10 a razor and there are alternatives now.

Schick is a much better deal.
I agree that is part of the reason, but you seriously think that entire 8b has little to do with their campaign that flat out attacks nearly their entire market? 🤔

[Rolando]

Good.

I didn't like their ad campaign AT ALL. Screw 'em. And thanks for reminding me not to buy anything more from Gillette.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

https://abuaminaelias.com/true-men-manhood-and-masculinity-in-islam/

[oh the horror]

Sales are down because no one wants to pay $10 a razor and there are alternatives now.

Schick is a much better deal.



This and their recent campaign didn