Can someone answer this pic?

[Dray n Klay]

https://i.postimg.cc/2jK62pMb/MJ-vs-LJ-post.jpg

Why are lebrons stats in losses greater than MJs stats in wins?? :wtf:

[superduper]

Because one player played to win and one player played to fraudulently manufacture his legacy and boxscore totals.

Have you heard of negative impact statpadding?

Imagine being surprised when one person holding the offense hostage to hog up all the stats in a team game leads to losing

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[ImKobe]

How about first 3 Finals?

comparing wins vs. losses & across 20 years, not adjusting for pace or defensive rule changes.

Jordan's first 3-Peat DESTROYS Lebron's 3 title runs.

[PeroAntic]

but but stats

[Marchesk]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SerpentineIcyAnaconda-size_restricted.gif

[Ainosterhaspie]

Because

2015 Warriors > 1996 Sonics
2017 Warriors >> 1997 Jazz
2018 Warriors >> 1998 Jazz

&

MJ's 1996 Cast/Coach >>> LBJ's 2015 Cast/Coach
MJ's 1997 Cast/Coach >> LBJ's 2017 Cast/Coach
MJ's 1998 Cast/Coach >>>>> LBJ's 2018 Cast/Coach

[Gus Hemmingway]

https://i.postimg.cc/2jK62pMb/MJ-vs-LJ-post.jpg

Why are lebrons stats in losses greater than MJs stats in wins?? :wtf:
And this is why Lebron is the GOAT :applause:

[3ball]

Gladly

1) If we're talking losing stats, then nothing tops MJ's 44/6/6 versus the 86' Celtics or his combined 40/7/6 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1986-1987-sum:playoffs_per_game) averages versus the Celtics in the 86 and 87 playoffs (including 2.2 steals and 1.8 blocks)

2) Lebron's stats are much worse in the years he won (25-28 ppg in 12' and 13 Finals), because it's harder to get stats while playing winning basketball

3) MJ did more to win rings:


PER GAME

Jordan 91, 92, 93 Playoffs:. 33.7 ppg.. 6.4 rpg.. 6.6 apg.. 2.8 tov.. 49.7 fg.. 57.2 ts.. 120 ortg.. 29.5 PER
Lebron 12, 13, 16 Playoffs:. 27.2 ppg.. 9.2 rpg.. 7.2 apg.. 3.4 tov.. 51.0 fg.. 58.1 ts.. 117 ortg.. 29.2 PER


PER 100 POSSESSIONS

Jordan 91, 92, 93 Playoffs:. 44.5 pts.. Ii8.4 reb.. 8.7 ast.. 3.8 tov.. 49.7 fg.. 57.2 ts.. 120 ortg.. 29.5 PER
Lebron 12, 13, 16 Playoffs:. 36.1 pts.. 10.2 reb.. 8.7 ast.. 4.4 tov.. 51.0 fg.. 58.1 ts.. 117 ortg.. 29.2 PER


Not even close.. :oldlol:

[bullettooth]

6 finals losses.

LeBron is a bona fide loser.

[JohnMax]

Because Warriors got worse at defense since signing Kevin Durant.

Its why I can't consider him a top 30 all time player. His skinny body makes their defense, screen game, boxing out and shrinking floor with size/mass much worse.

[Manny98]

Because

2015 Warriors > 1996 Sonics
2017 Warriors >> 1997 Jazz
2018 Warriors >> 1998 Jazz

&

MJ's 1996 Cast/Coach >>> LBJ's 2015 Cast/Coach
MJ's 1997 Cast/Coach >> LBJ's 2017 Cast/Coach
MJ's 1998 Cast/Coach >>>>> LBJ's 2018 Cast/Coach
This :applause:

[Manny98]

Gladly

1) If we're talking losing stats, then nothing tops MJ's 44/6/6 versus the 86' Celtics or his combined 40/7/6 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1986-1987-sum:playoffs_per_game) averages versus the Celtics in the 86 and 87 playoffs

2) Lebron's stats are much worse in the years he won, because it's harder to get stats while playing winning basketball

3) MJ did more to win rings:


PER GAME

Jordan 91, 92, 93 Playoffs:. 33.7 ppg.. 6.4 rpg.. 6.6 apg.. 2.8 tov.. 49.7 fg.. 57.2 ts.. 120 ortg.. 29.5 PER
Lebron 12, 13, 16 Playoffs:. 27.2 ppg.. 9.2 rpg.. 7.2 apg.. 3.4 tov.. 51.0 fg.. 58.1 ts.. 117 ortg.. 29.2 PER


PER 100 POSSESSIONS

Jordan 91, 92, 93 Playoffs:. 44.5 pts.. Ii8.4 reb.. 8.7 ast.. 3.8 tov.. 49.7 fg.. 57.2 ts.. 120 ortg.. 29.5 PER
Lebron 12, 13, 16 Playoffs:. 36.1 pts.. 10.2 reb.. 8.7 ast.. 4.4 tov.. 51.0 fg.. 58.1 ts.. 117 ortg.. 29.2 PER


Not even close.. :oldlol:
Jordan got swept by the best team he faced (86 Celtics)

LeBron beat the best team he faced (73 win Warriors)

[Rico2016]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SerpentineIcyAnaconda-size_restricted.gif

Not 1. Not 2. Not 3. Not, okay maybe 3

[3ball]

Gladly

1) If we're talking losing stats, then nothing tops MJ's 44/6/6 versus the 86' Celtics or his combined 40/7/6 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1986-1987-sum:playoffs_per_game) averages versus the Celtics in the 86 and 87 playoffs (including 2.2 steals and 1.8 blocks)

2) Lebron's stats are much worse in the years he won (25-28 ppg in 12' and 13 Finals), because it's harder to get stats while playing winning basketball

3) MJ did more to win rings:


PER GAME

Jordan 91, 92, 93 Playoffs:. 33.7 ppg.. 6.4 rpg.. 6.6 apg.. 2.8 tov.. 49.7 fg.. 57.2 ts.. 120 ortg.. 29.5 PER
Lebron 12, 13, 16 Playoffs:. 27.2 ppg.. 9.2 rpg.. 7.2 apg.. 3.4 tov.. 51.0 fg.. 58.1 ts.. 117 ortg.. 29.2 PER


PER 100 POSSESSIONS

Jordan 91, 92, 93 Playoffs:. 44.5 pts.. Ii8.4 reb.. 8.7 ast.. 3.8 tov.. 49.7 fg.. 57.2 ts.. 120 ortg.. 29.5 PER
Lebron 12, 13, 16 Playoffs:. 36.1 pts.. 10.2 reb.. 8.7 ast.. 4.4 tov.. 51.0 fg.. 58.1 ts.. 117 ortg.. 29.2 PER


Not even close.. :oldlol:
^^^ This answers you Dray n Klay

[Gileraracer]

Because one player played to win and one player played to fraudulently manufacture his legacy and boxscore totals.

Have you heard of negative impact statpadding?

Imagine being surprised when one person holding the offense hostage to hog up all the stats in a team game leads to losing

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Everything said :applause:

-closed

[bullettooth]

LeBron beat the best team he faced (73 win Warriors)

He beat 'the best team' but got swept by two other teams?

:biggums:

[warriorfan]

Well, looks like op got his question answered


:roll:

[Bronbron23]

Like most things theres not not one answer to this. It's a multitude of things. I'll give you the 3 main reasons though.

One: Michael Jordan was the superior defender at that stage in there careers. Even when he wasnt amazing on the offensive end he could still heavily impact the game on the defensive end. Lebron The last few years has all but given up playing defence.

Two: Jordan played within a system where LeBron pretty much was the system. One is optimal for winning and the other is optimal for individual stats.

Three: was Phil Jackson. Jordan respected Phil and would actually listen to him and often take his advice. I don't think Bron has really ever respected any of his coaches and pretty much does what he feels is the better way. To his defence he's never had a great coach like Phil but I wonder if he just likes doing shit his own way and doesn't really want a real head coach anyway.

Note: the "he didn't play the warriors" excuse is a bad one. Rockets pretty much beat the warriors last year mainly because of there defence. That's how cle beat them also in 16. Jordans bulls where much better than Cleveland or the rockets defensively. Jordan, pip rodman and Harper would cause fits for the warriors. They were Tailor made to beat them.

[Manny98]

He beat 'the best team' but got swept by two other teams?

:biggums:
Why couldn't the so called GOAT steal one game against the Celtics :confusedshrug:

[bullettooth]

Why couldn't the so called GOAT steal one game against the Celtics :confusedshrug:

So you expect the GOAT to steal one game with an 8th seed team against one of the GOAT teams but you give a pass to the supposed GOAT on getting swept twice against two other teams on a team good enough to make the finals?

Your logic ****ing sucks.

[LAmbruh]

dat boy DnK got em feeling some kinda way :lol

[superduper]

OP getting absolutely eviscerated as usual :oldlol:

[Sakkreth]

Those fg% by MJ, yikes.

[LAmbruh]

Because

2015 Warriors > 1996 Sonics
2017 Warriors >> 1997 Jazz
2018 Warriors >> 1998 Jazz

&

MJ's 1996 Cast/Coach >>> LBJ's 2015 Cast/Coach
MJ's 1997 Cast/Coach >> LBJ's 2017 Cast/Coach
MJ's 1998 Cast/Coach >>>>> LBJ's 2018 Cast/Coach
damn :applause:

[Manny98]

So you expect the GOAT to steal one game with an 8th seed team against one of the GOAT teams but you give a pass to the supposed GOAT on getting swept twice against two other teams on a team good enough to make the finals?

Your logic ****ing sucks.
Yes I do expect the GOAT to be able to steal one game :oldlol: why couldn't he?

Why was Jordan an 8th seed in the 1st place :roll:

Imagine the GOAT coming into the playoffs as an 8th seed :roll:

[3ball]

damn :applause:
Except none of mj's teams had as much talent as lebron's 17' cast

MJ would've had the #1 offense of all-time / dominant dynasty a 25 ppg third option star.......... considering he had the #2 and #6 offenses with garbage scorers at 3rd option

[3ball]

Yes I do expect the GOAT to be able to steal one game :oldlol: why couldn't he?
44 ppg couldn't steal a game, but 34 ppg in 2017 did

celtics > warriors

Or he didn't have a 28 ppg 2nd option

[Manny98]

44 ppg couldn't steal a game, but 34 ppg in 2017 did

celtics > warriors
Maybe if he averaged more assists and shot better than 58TS% he would have at least got one game :confusedshrug:

Only 5 assists per game that series for someone that dominates the ball as much as MJ? Pathetic

[bullettooth]

Maybe if he averaged more assists and shot better than 58TS% he would have at least got one game :confusedshrug:

Only 5 assists per game that series for someone that dominates the ball as much as MJ? Pathetic

Your logic still sucks.

Are you a retard?

[Gus Hemmingway]

Because

2015 Warriors > 1996 Sonics
2017 Warriors >> 1997 Jazz
2018 Warriors >> 1998 Jazz

&

MJ's 1996 Cast/Coach >>> LBJ's 2015 Cast/Coach
MJ's 1997 Cast/Coach >> LBJ's 2017 Cast/Coach
MJ's 1998 Cast/Coach >>>>> LBJ's 2018 Cast/Coach
yup

[Dray n Klay]

dat boy DnK got em feeling some kinda way :lol

Oh dey mad :lol

[Manny98]

Your logic still sucks.

Are you a retard?
Jordan got swept in the 1st round

LeBron is 13-0 in the first round

[Rico2016]

Jordan got swept in the 1st round

LeBron is 13-0 in the first round

Is this what's known as an "ether" because it sounds like Nas dropping bars

[SomeBlackDude]

boiled down:

'96 sonics
reg season: 104.5 pts/gm (#2 in nba); 110.3 ortg (#8 in nba)
finals vs bulls: 89.2 pts/gm (-15.3 pts/gm); 106.7 ortg

'97 jazz
reg season: 103.1 pts/gm (#2 in nba); 113.6 ortg (#2 in nba)
finals: 87.2 pts/gm (-15.9 pts/gm); 103.8 ortg

'98 jazz
reg season: 101 pts/gm (#1 in nba) 112.7 ortg (#1 in the nba)
finals: 80 pts/gm (-21 pts/gm); 96.1 ortg


vs


'15 warriors
reg season: 110 pts/gm (#1 in nba); 111.6 ortg (#2 in nba)
finals vs cavs: 100.7 pts/gm (-9.3 pts/gm); 107.3 ortg

'17 warriors
reg season: 115.1 pts/gm (#1 in nba); 115.6 ortg (#1 in nba)
finals vs cavs: 121.6 pts/gm (+6.5 pts/gm); 121.3 ortg :facepalm

'18 warriors*
reg season: 113.5 pts/gm (#1 in nba); 113.6 ortg (#3 in nba)
finals vs cavs: 116 pts/gm (+2.6 pts/gm);124.6 ortg :facepalm


*Statistically, we just saw the most lopsided NBA Finals ever. The Warriors swept the series while outscoring the Cavaliers by a combined 60 points, the largest Finals margin of victory ever.

2018 finals
dubs- 116 ppg
lescrubs- 101 ppg
-15 margin is largest in nba finals history

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[90sgoat]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SerpentineIcyAnaconda-size_restricted.gif

Wow what a pair of douchebag LOSERS :roll: :roll: :roll:

[72-10]

No one seems to point out that Michael was playing in the triangle offense where he wasn't running the point, and he was relying on mid-range fadeaways for his scoring.

[r0drig0lac]

Because one player played to win and one player played to fraudulently manufacture his legacy and boxscore totals.

Have you heard of negative impact statpadding?

Imagine being surprised when one person holding the offense hostage to hog up all the stats in a team game leads to losing

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
dead

[Dray n Klay]

Sooo. None can answer :(

[3ball]

Sooo. None can answer :(
nothing tops MJ's 44/6/6 versus the 86' Celtics or his combined 40/7/6 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1986-1987-sum:playoffs_per_game) averages versus the Celtics in the 86 and 87 playoffs (including 2.2 steals and 1.8 blocks)

Also, Lebron's stats are much worse in the years he won (25-28 ppg in 12' and 13 Finals), because it's harder to get stats while playing winning basketball

Finally, MJ did more to win rings:


PER GAME

Jordan 91, 92, 93 Playoffs:. 33.7 ppg.. 6.4 rpg.. 6.6 apg.. 2.8 tov.. 49.7 fg.. 57.2 ts.. 120 ortg.. 29.5 PER
Lebron 12, 13, 16 Playoffs:. 27.2 ppg.. 9.2 rpg.. 7.2 apg.. 3.4 tov.. 51.0 fg.. 58.1 ts.. 117 ortg.. 29.2 PER


PER 100 POSSESSIONS

Jordan 91, 92, 93 Playoffs:. 44.5 pts.. Ii8.4 reb.. 8.7 ast.. 3.8 tov.. 49.7 fg.. 57.2 ts.. 120 ortg.. 29.5 PER
Lebron 12, 13, 16 Playoffs:. 36.1 pts.. 10.2 reb.. 8.7 ast.. 4.4 tov.. 51.0 fg.. 58.1 ts.. 117 ortg.. 29.2 PER

[Dray n Klay]

nothing tops MJ's 44/6/6 versus the 86' Celtics or his combined 40/7/6 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1986-1987-sum:playoffs_per_game) averages versus the Celtics in the 86 and 87 playoffs (including 2.2 steals and 1.8 blocks)

Also, Lebron's stats are much worse in the years he won (25-28 ppg in 12' and 13 Finals), because it's harder to get stats while playing winning basketball

Finally, MJ did more to win rings:


PER GAME

Jordan 91, 92, 93 Playoffs:. 33.7 ppg.. 6.4 rpg.. 6.6 apg.. 2.8 tov.. 49.7 fg.. 57.2 ts.. 120 ortg.. 29.5 PER
Lebron 12, 13, 16 Playoffs:. 27.2 ppg.. 9.2 rpg.. 7.2 apg.. 3.4 tov.. 51.0 fg.. 58.1 ts.. 117 ortg.. 29.2 PER


PER 100 POSSESSIONS

Jordan 91, 92, 93 Playoffs:. 44.5 pts.. Ii8.4 reb.. 8.7 ast.. 3.8 tov.. 49.7 fg.. 57.2 ts.. 120 ortg.. 29.5 PER
Lebron 12, 13, 16 Playoffs:. 36.1 pts.. 10.2 reb.. 8.7 ast.. 4.4 tov.. 51.0 fg.. 58.1 ts.. 117 ortg.. 29.2 PER


Jordan only averaged 6 rebounds and 6 assists in 1986


LeBron averaged 12 rebounds and 10 assists in 2017



Jordan only averaged 4 rebounds and 2 assists in 1998

LeBron averaged 13 rebounds and 9 assists in 2015

[3ball]

Jordan only averaged 6 rebounds and 6 assists in 1986

LeBron averaged 12 rebounds and 10 assists in 2017


The team with the higher score always wins, which isn't true for rebounding.. so MJ's scoring is more important..

anyone can get defensive rebounds - lebron was stealing them from the two double-digit rebounders he had on his team

Otoh, no one could get MJ's points because he had no help from teammates, who were already playing to full capacity

Also lebron had a 28 ppg 2nd option - a decorated Olympian - MJ never had anything remotely close to kyrie ... or love





Jordan only averaged 4 rebounds and 2 assists in 1998

LeBron averaged 13 rebounds and 9 assists in 2015


Jordan had the goat clutch in that series... OF ALL TIME..

And lebron saved energy by playing zero D... he let a bench player double their scoring average and become the key to the series.. this crushes your argument

But that's not all... MJ averaged an extra 3 ppg on a pace adjusted basis versus the 2015 Finals... So 37 ppg... :bowdown:

[Bawkish]

Lebron stans think like goldfish

just within the limits of their own fishbowl

[Rico2016]

Sooo. None can answer :(

LeBron put up better numbers and still lost because he has lesser team players to help him and he was battling much stronger teams.

[Leviathon1121]

boiled down:

'96 sonics
reg season: 104.5 pts/gm (#2 in nba); 110.3 ortg (#8 in nba)
finals vs bulls: 89.2 pts/gm (-15.3 pts/gm); 106.7 ortg

'97 jazz
reg season: 103.1 pts/gm (#2 in nba); 113.6 ortg (#2 in nba)
finals: 87.2 pts/gm (-15.9 pts/gm); 103.8 ortg

'98 jazz
reg season: 101 pts/gm (#1 in nba) 112.7 ortg (#1 in the nba)
finals: 80 pts/gm (-21 pts/gm); 96.1 ortg


vs


'15 warriors
reg season: 110 pts/gm (#1 in nba); 111.6 ortg (#2 in nba)
finals vs cavs: 100.7 pts/gm (-9.3 pts/gm); 107.3 ortg

'17 warriors
reg season: 115.1 pts/gm (#1 in nba); 115.6 ortg (#1 in nba)
finals vs cavs: 121.6 pts/gm (+6.5 pts/gm); 121.3 ortg :facepalm

'18 warriors*
reg season: 113.5 pts/gm (#1 in nba); 113.6 ortg (#3 in nba)
finals vs cavs: 116 pts/gm (+2.6 pts/gm);124.6 ortg :facepalm



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Can pretty much just copy and paste this is every single thread he makes.

[Dray n Klay]

3ball where are you?

[ImKobe]

boiled down:

'96 sonics
reg season: 104.5 pts/gm (#2 in nba); 110.3 ortg (#8 in nba)
finals vs bulls: 89.2 pts/gm (-15.3 pts/gm); 106.7 ortg

'97 jazz
reg season: 103.1 pts/gm (#2 in nba); 113.6 ortg (#2 in nba)
finals: 87.2 pts/gm (-15.9 pts/gm); 103.8 ortg

'98 jazz
reg season: 101 pts/gm (#1 in nba) 112.7 ortg (#1 in the nba)
finals: 80 pts/gm (-21 pts/gm); 96.1 ortg


vs


'15 warriors
reg season: 110 pts/gm (#1 in nba); 111.6 ortg (#2 in nba)
finals vs cavs: 100.7 pts/gm (-9.3 pts/gm); 107.3 ortg

'17 warriors
reg season: 115.1 pts/gm (#1 in nba); 115.6 ortg (#1 in nba)
finals vs cavs: 121.6 pts/gm (+6.5 pts/gm); 121.3 ortg :facepalm

'18 warriors*
reg season: 113.5 pts/gm (#1 in nba); 113.6 ortg (#3 in nba)
finals vs cavs: 116 pts/gm (+2.6 pts/gm);124.6 ortg :facepalm



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[And1AllDay]

nothing tops MJ's 44/6/6 versus the 86' Celtics or his combined 40/7/6 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1986-1987-sum:playoffs_per_game) averages versus the Celtics in the 86 and 87 playoffs (including 2.2 steals and 1.8 blocks

False

LeBron 2009: 39-8-8

39-8-8 tops 44/6/6

Especially since LeBron was up against the #1 defense in the league with a 101.9 DefRtg

[3ball]

False

LeBron 2009: 39-8-8

39-8-8 tops 44/6/6

Especially since LeBron was up against the #1 defense in the league with a 101.9 DefRtg
Celtics are a top 5 team all-time, while the Magic weren't even top 100

Secondly, it's a well-documented that Mike Brown put Lebron on scrub Courtney Lee to save energy so he would be fresh on offense

Finally, the Orlando series was a shootout - no defense was played, as both teams scored materially above their regular season ORtg's... Otoh, the Celtics were playing good D by holding the bulls below their normal ORtg.

Oh, one more thing - lebron hurt his team in the clutch by shooting just 68% from the line in the 4th (https://stats.nba.com/player/2544/traditional/?Season=2008-09&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=3), whereas MJ was pure icewater (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QB0ZS8HWw5A&t=08m47s)

[And1AllDay]

Celtics are a top 5 team all-time, while the Magic weren't even top 100

Secondly, it's a well-documented that Mike Brown put Lebron on scrub Courtney Lee to save energy so he would be fresh on offense

Finally, the Orlando series was a shootout - no defense was played, as both teams scored materially above their regular season ORtg's... Otoh, the Celtics were playing good D by holding the bulls below their normal ORtg.

Oh, one more thing - lebron hurt his team in the clutch by shooting just 68% from the line in the 4th (https://stats.nba.com/player/2544/traditional/?Season=2008-09&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=3), whereas MJ was pure icewater (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QB0ZS8HWw5A&t=08m47s)

How did you skip over everything and post up weird stuff about Courtney Lee and clutch % lol Here I'll say it again

LeBron 2009: 39-8-8

39-8-8 tops 44/6/6

Especially since LeBron was up against the #1 defense in the league with a 101.9 DefRtg

And yes, the Magics defense was rated better then Celtics and #1 so theres that. This was at the peak of D12 winning 3 DPOY in a row. Let me ask you this. How many players have ever won DPOY 3 years in a row? Just one man. Dwight Howard. Dont underrate him defensively its bad for your health bruh

[bullettooth]

How did you skip over everything and post up weird stuff about Courtney Lee and clutch % lol Here I'll say it again

LeBron 2009: 39-8-8

39-8-8 tops 44/6/6

Especially since LeBron was up against the #1 defense in the league with a 101.9 DefRtg

And yes, the Magics defense was rated better then Celtics and #1 so theres that. This was at the peak of D12 winning 3 DPOY in a row. Let me ask you this. How many players have ever won DPOY 3 years in a row? Just one man. Dwight Howard. Dont underrate him defensively its bad for your health bruh

Will you ever come to terms you cheerlead for a glorified 3/9 loser?

[And1AllDay]

Will you ever come to terms you cheerlead for a glorified 3/9 loser?

Personal insults are cool and all but is that all you got?

Next

[G0ATbe]

Weak finals comp, and also never having to go through LeBrons shitty circumstances (missing his 2nd,3rd options in 2015, going up against prime Spurs in his 3rd year surrounded by scrubs, going up against a 73 win team that added the 2nd best player in the nba year after year). MJ won in a happy go lucky era with all the real teams already retired or one foot out the door. Always had the most stacked team.

[bullettooth]

Personal insults are cool and all but is that all you got?

Next

Answer the question instead of lying.

[And1AllDay]

Weak finals comp, and also never having to go through LeBrons shitty circumstances (missing his 2nd,3rd options in 2015, going up against prime Spurs in his 3rd year surrounded by scrubs, going up against a 73 win team that added the 2nd best player in the nba year after year). MJ won in a happy go lucky era with all the real teams already retired or one foot out the door. Always had the most stacked team.

This is the honest truth. He played in a weak era on the most stacked team.

Just imagine it, being able to play on a team so stacked you could remove yourself and still have the best 1-2 punch (Pippen and Rodman).

Just imagine it, being able to play on a team so stacked you could remove yourself and they still win 55 games (94 Bulls).

Just imagine it, being able to play on a team so stacked you could remove yourself and add Demar Derozan and still get the chips

[And1AllDay]

Answer the question instead of lying.

LeBron 2009: 39-8-8

39-8-8 tops 44/6/6

Especially since LeBron was up against the #1 defense in the league with a 101.9 DefRtg

And yes, the Magics defense was rated better then Celtics and #1 so theres that. This was at the peak of D12 winning 3 DPOY in a row. Let me ask you this. How many players have ever won DPOY 3 years in a row? Just one man. Dwight Howard. Dont underrate him defensively its bad for your health bruh

[bullettooth]

LeBron 2009: 39-8-8

39-8-8 tops 44/6/6

Especially since LeBron was up against the #1 defense in the league with a 101.9 DefRtg

And yes, the Magics defense was rated better then Celtics and #1 so theres that. This was at the peak of D12 winning 3 DPOY in a row. Let me ask you this. How many players have ever won DPOY 3 years in a row? Just one man. Dwight Howard. Dont underrate him defensively its bad for your health bruh

Answer the question:

Will you ever come to terms you cheerlead for a glorified 3/9 loser?

[TheCorporation]

Because

2015 Warriors > 1996 Sonics
2017 Warriors >> 1997 Jazz
2018 Warriors >> 1998 Jazz

&

MJ's 1996 Cast/Coach >>> LBJ's 2015 Cast/Coach
MJ's 1997 Cast/Coach >> LBJ's 2017 Cast/Coach
MJ's 1998 Cast/Coach >>>>> LBJ's 2018 Cast/Coach

Bingo

[TheBranStan]

And this is why Lebron is the GOAT :applause:
BOOM :cheers:

[sportjames23]

boiled down:

'96 sonics
reg season: 104.5 pts/gm (#2 in nba); 110.3 ortg (#8 in nba)
finals vs bulls: 89.2 pts/gm (-15.3 pts/gm); 106.7 ortg

'97 jazz
reg season: 103.1 pts/gm (#2 in nba); 113.6 ortg (#2 in nba)
finals: 87.2 pts/gm (-15.9 pts/gm); 103.8 ortg

'98 jazz
reg season: 101 pts/gm (#1 in nba) 112.7 ortg (#1 in the nba)
finals: 80 pts/gm (-21 pts/gm); 96.1 ortg


vs


'15 warriors
reg season: 110 pts/gm (#1 in nba); 111.6 ortg (#2 in nba)
finals vs cavs: 100.7 pts/gm (-9.3 pts/gm); 107.3 ortg

'17 warriors
reg season: 115.1 pts/gm (#1 in nba); 115.6 ortg (#1 in nba)
finals vs cavs: 121.6 pts/gm (+6.5 pts/gm); 121.3 ortg :facepalm

'18 warriors*
reg season: 113.5 pts/gm (#1 in nba); 113.6 ortg (#3 in nba)
finals vs cavs: 116 pts/gm (+2.6 pts/gm);124.6 ortg :facepalm



melted down:

https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-20-2015/WrzvG9.gif


vs

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/8617085/KD_dunk.0.gif


I say DAMN. I just witness a man being murdered right before my eyes. :eek:

[bullettooth]

https://i.postimg.cc/Gt7KCvCg/lebron-stats-or-rings.gif

[TheCorporation]

https://i.postimg.cc/Gt7KCvCg/lebron-stats-or-rings.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/jdgkyVFR/MJyikes.jpg

[bullettooth]

https://i.postimg.cc/jdgkyVFR/MJyikes.jpg

LeBron's legacy: 6 finals losses

[TheCorporation]

LeBron's legacy: 6911 points. 10 game winners. 419 steals. Most all time for all categories. No one is close

Nice

[superduper]

Nice

https://media3.giphy.com/media/Ve9pOjJRxkW2c/giphy.gif

[TheCorporation]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/Ve9pOjJRxkW2c/giphy.gif

What's Jordan's?

#2 in all of those :lol

Nice grasp

[superduper]

What's Jordan's?

#2 in all of those :lol

Nice grasp

Games played.
PPG.
Championships won.

That should be the end of that but since delusion > reality for you Bran stans keep spamming the same spew over and over. Hopefully it'll keep you all sane :cheers:

[TheCorporation]

Games played.
PPG.
Championships won.

That should be the end of that but since delusion > reality for you Bran stans keep spamming the same spew over and over. Hopefully it'll keep you all sane :cheers:

Sheesh what's so bad about MJ being #2? :confusedshrug:

[bullettooth]

Nice

Wow, great stats! Dude must have won many rings! How many did he get?

[egokiller]

[TheCorporation]

Wow, great stats! Dude must have won many rings! How many did he get?


3 FMVP
2nd most all time

Anything else?

[superduper]

3 FMVP
2nd most all time

Anything else?

Playoff....series....wins.....

[TheCorporation]

Playoff....series....wins.....

Sure. Playoff series wins:

LBJ: 35
Kobe: 33
MJ: 30

Going 1-9 does have its consequences

Anything else?

[bullettooth]

[QUOTE=egokiller]

[paksat]

LOL, it's all they've got and the stats aren't anywhere near that impressive.... dude basically played against the D-League his entire career.

lol this

kyle lowry an all star? :lol

brook lopez putting up stats that make him look like hakeem? :lol

strong east son :roll:

[egokiller]

Imagine bragging about stats accumulated during an era where you aren

[sportjames23]

[QUOTE=egokiller]Imagine bragging about stats accumulated during an era where you aren

[Rolando]

This:

Because one player played to win and one player played to fraudulently manufacture his legacy and boxscore totals.

Have you heard of negative impact statpadding?

Imagine being surprised when one person holding the offense hostage to hog up all the stats in a team game leads to losing

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[TheCorporation]

https://i.postimg.cc/2jK62pMb/MJ-vs-LJ-post.jpg

Why are lebrons stats in losses greater than MJs stats in wins?? :wtf:


Anyone?

[Nowoco]

Bron stans make Kobe stans seem like mild mannered upstanding sane individuals :biggums:

[TheCorporation]

Bron stans make Kobe stans seem like mild mannered upstanding sane individuals :biggums:

And here we have a fake Tim Duncan fan criticizing others...:rolleyes:

[3ball]

MJ did more to win rings:


PER GAME

Jordan 91, 92, 93 Playoffs:. 33.7 ppg.. 6.4 rpg.. 6.6 apg.. 2.8 tov.. 49.7 fg.. 57.2 ts.. 120 ortg.. 29.5 PER
Lebron 12, 13, 16 Playoffs:. 27.2 ppg.. 9.2 rpg.. 7.2 apg.. 3.4 tov.. 51.0 fg.. 58.1 ts.. 117 ortg.. 29.2 PER


PER 100 POSSESSIONS

Jordan 91, 92, 93 Playoffs:. 44.5 pts.. Ii8.4 reb.. 8.7 ast.. 3.8 tov.. 49.7 fg.. 57.2 ts.. 120 ortg.. 29.5 PER
Lebron 12, 13, 16 Playoffs:. 36.1 pts.. 10.2 reb.. 8.7 ast.. 4.4 tov.. 51.0 fg.. 58.1 ts.. 117 ortg.. 29.2 PER








Anyone?




Lebron's stats in OP's pic are losing stats - and MJ had better losing stats:. 44/6/6 and a record 30.6 gamescore versus the 86' Celtics.. no one is close

And Lebron's winning stats fall short too (27.2 and 7.2 apg in 12/13/16 playoffs) because it's harder to get good stats while playing winning basketball (33.7 and 6.6 for MJ in 91-93' playoffs)
.