How would Steph Curry do with actual handchecking on the perimeter and hard fouls?

[72-10]

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[MrFonzworth]

He would already be dead.

[AirBonner]

He would basically be the equivalent of Mark Macon

[juju151111]

:confusedshrug:
He would be the greatest shooter ever.

[Ainosterhaspie]

About the same. The impact of handchecking is one of the biggest myths ever. He gets a lot of his looks after a bunch of screens and he rises and fires in the blink of an eye before defenders have a chance to hand check him. Then he has elite handles to shake a defender loose handchecking or no.

Guys talking about handchecking don't watch today's game and haven't watched games from the handchecking era since it ended because what they describe has almost no connection to reality then or now.

[Ainosterhaspie]

And do you actually watch playoff games? Dudes clutch and grab and push and hold him all the time.

[bigkingsfan]

He'll do just fine with screen and switches.
Handchecking will also lead to easy foul draws.
Shoot over it.
etc...

[NBAGOAT]

mvp candidate. Idc what the era is, it's just not arguable at a certain point that curry is a better offensive player than someone like karl malone.

[Ainosterhaspie]

Check out this brutal handchecking compilation from a 90s finals game. No way Curry could handle this.

https://youtu.be/03GT8q3BCZY
























Six threes and no defender even close to the line, but handchecking would shut Curry down. :facepalm

[LAmbruh]

Would love to see Jeff Hornacek and Craig Ehlo squeeze close to handcheck Lillard and Westbrook then proceed to get burnt to a crisp and blown by

90's fans bringning this up shows how little they've played ball and know how easy it is to dice up a defender trying to guard you close

But what else is expected from a generation of MJ fanboys who only had one player to fawn over for a decade


BTW, handchecking exists today, in every game. Try tuning in on the playoffs once in a while

[72-10]

While I agree with most of what y'all have said and that he'd still do very well, I think he'd be slowed a bit compared to now, when he's trying to create his own shot out on the perimeter - that just wouldn't work as well, even with the handles. If you put the Bad Boys Pistons on him, who knows how he'd do? Yeah, he'd get fouled, too. Curry's an ATG, but we knew that.

btw it's like you're implying that he'd never drive… I don't think he'd do too well if he ever drove.

[FKAri]

Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf :D

[SomeBlackDude]

https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5578469869bedd412b880a32-750-562.jpg

[Ainosterhaspie]

BTW, handchecking exists today, in every game. Try tuning in on the playoffs once in a while
Yep. Every game I watch I see it, and not just the playoffs. And defenders use their forearm to do the same thing they used to with the handcheck, give guys nudges to slow and redirect their drives. That is happening constantly.

[Ainosterhaspie]

[QUOTE=72-10]While I agree with most of what y'all have said and that he'd still do very well, I think he'd be slowed a bit compared to now, when he's trying to create his own shot out on the perimeter - that just wouldn't work as well, even with the handles. If you put the Bad Boys Pistons on him, who knows how he'd do? Yeah, he'd get fouled, too. Curry's an ATG, but we knew that.

btw it's like you're implying that he'd never drive

[Ainosterhaspie]

https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5578469869bedd412b880a32-750-562.jpg
Had two or three good games against Steph, then got cramps and wasn't the same. By 2016 games 5-7 he had his minutes heavily slashed then completely eliminated because he was a disaster.

[hiphopanonymous]

With his game under different rules he'd have fit the role of Steve Kerr perfectly on the 90's Bulls

It's eerie since not just their game but also their name is so similar

Kidding of course. He's a better 25+ shooter than Kerr and a better ball handler but still - I do think his game would be restricted without moving screens, and with physical defense both on and off the ball.

[r0drig0lac]

less volume and worse efficiency, possibly your ankles would suffer more

[FKAri]

The speed of his release + accuracy combo would be deadly in any era. but his lack of strength can be exploited.

Defenders would be right up on him as his driving game can be taken away due to the hand checking + his lack of strength. His elite handle would still be able to let him break free every now and then but closed lanes means it would be even harder for a smaller guy like him to get to the cup. He'd have to resort to floaters and mid range pullups more. So to free himself up more and create separation, he'd need more screens. As a result he'd be worse in isolation imo.

He'd have to build up strength more and make a decision as to whether he's willing to take the physical beating necessary to be a threat in the paint like an Iverson or stick to being a guy coming off screens. It would take a toll on his body though if he chooses the former. Overall, he'd be all-NBA 3rd team caliber at worst. At best? A guy who gets MVP talks but wouldn't ever actually win won.

[bizil]

He still would be great! Would still be a 50-40-90 shooter getting 25+PPG. BUT it would look a bit different though. Would have to work harder to get his shots off. BUT the bottom line is he would still be a great player. Generally speaking the greats would BE GREAT in any era. It's just a matter of HOW GREAT in comparison to the rules or players in that era. The biggest question could be durability with some guys who are injury prone.

[superduper]

in every game.

Try tuning in on the playoffs once in a while

:biggums:

[atljonesbro]

Dingo would destroy in the 90s. They’d have no clue how to defend him seeing as threes really weren’t a big thing

[Stephonit]

The question is if they brought back handchecking today right? Because if the question is about Steph playing way back when they had handchecking he'd annihilate the defenses of that time despite handchecking. No one from that era had the deep shooting of Curry and their defenses would have been helpless. Just look at those games and where they guarded the perimeter. They'd have to move 10 feet out from what they were used to.

[imdaman99]

He would change the game and then proceed to not stand up for the national anthem and get blackballed. And his career will be over.

[warriorfan]

Would love to see Jeff Hornacek and Craig Ehlo squeeze close to handcheck Lillard and Westbrook then proceed to get burnt to a crisp and blown by

90's fans bringning this up shows how little they've played ball and know how easy it is to dice up a defender trying to guard you close

But what else is expected from a generation of MJ fanboys who only had one player to fawn over for a decade


BTW, handchecking exists today, in every game. Try tuning in on the playoffs once in a while

stfu wheels :lol

[Phoenix]

Best thing to do with Steph is rough it up, basically what Cleveland did in 2016 as far as the rules allow. It would have been interesting watching him against those Knicks and Pistons squads that MJ faced. Knicks had a number of guards to throw at him, Starks, Derek Harper, Gerald Wilkins, Greg Anthony, with a wall of Mason/Oakley/Ewing camping around the rim.

He's still be a great player though. That level of 3point shooting would be completely alien in the 90's, the difference is you could be more physical and wear him down. Drive to the lane? Knock him on his ass a few times. The other thing is, back then he's not going to be surrounded by the same number of floor spacers. Having Klay and KD on the wings is an embarrassment of riches for a guy who has so much gravity on his own. He'd be devastating in a 2-man game with a dominant interior player who has their own gravity in the post.

[bizil]

Best thing to do with Steph is rough it up, basically what Cleveland did in 2016 as far as the rules allow. It would have been interesting watching him against those Knicks and Pistons squads that MJ faced. Knicks had a number of guards to throw at him, Starks, Derek Harper, Gerald Wilkins, Greg Anthony, with a wall of Mason/Oakley/Ewing camping around the rim.

He's still be a great player though. That level of 3point shooting would be completely alien in the 90's, the difference is you could be more physical and wear him down. Drive to the lane? Knock him on his ass a few times. The other thing is, back then he's not going to be surrounded by the same number of floor spacers. Having Klay and KD on the wings is an embarrassment of riches for a guy who has so much gravity on his own. He'd be devastating in a 2-man game with a dominant interior player who has their own gravity in the post.

I agree! He would be a taller Mark Price ON STEROIDS!! Price doesn't get his props. Was the first PG who was a great pure shooter (50-40-90 guy, three point shootout king), had great handles, and was a great passer all in one package. Nash was next in line for that. Then Steph took what they did to the ultimate level combining those elements.

So I think he relies on his jumper more and doesn't drive to the lane as much. That's the luxury Steph would have due to his scoring skillset. Him was ANY of those dominant low post centers would have been awesome to watch. I ALSO think Steph's passing ability would standout more in that era. I think the physicality of the game then would MAKE the score first PG's pass more.

[Phoenix]

I agree! He would be a taller Mark Price ON STEROIDS!! Price doesn't get his props. Was the first PG who was a great pure shooter (50-40-90 guy, three point shootout king), had great handles, and was a great passer all in one package. Nash was next in line for that. Then Steph took what they did to the ultimate level combining those elements.

So I think he relies on his jumper more and doesn't drive to the lane as much. That's the luxury Steph would have due to his scoring skillset. Him was ANY of those dominant low post centers would have been awesome to watch. I ALSO think Steph's passing ability would standout more in that era. I think the physicality of the game then would MAKE the score first PG's pass more.

That's a good comparison( his name came to mind typing up my earlier post). A more prolific and consistent Chris Jackson would be another. I like the Price comparison better than Nash because we actually saw Price in THAT era. We know how a player like that translated. So we can extrapolate taking into account that Steph is an even more prolific shooter and craftier ball-handler.....Nash is in the same vein but a little harder to judge in that era because he exploded post 2004 when the perimeter rules changed. I think Steph's big issue in the 90's would be health. In THIS era he's considered somewhat fragile and this is a non-physical era with wide open lanes to the basket, and rules penalizing excessive fouling/rough play.