King James passed Lebron tonight

[Marchesk]

Thirteen 50 point games to twelve for sixth all-time. (https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=career&year_max=2019&is_playoffs=N&age_min=0&age_max=99&season_start=1&season_end=-1&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=50&order_by=pts)

Next up, Rick Barry.

[k0kakw0rld]

How many rings for King James or final trips? :confusedshrug:

[RRR3]

LeBron has done it in the playoffs.


13 total.

[kennethgriffen]

LeBron has done it in the playoffs.


13 total.


lebron fans rip on kobes 81 point game because it came against bosh's raptors


then they turn around and hype of 50 by lebron against defrozans raptors


:lol

[SouBeachTalents]

lebron fans rip on kobes 81 point game because it came against the raptors


then they turn around and hype of 50 by lebron against the raptors


:lol
Lol, it was against the Warriors, not the Raptors

[kennethgriffen]

Lol, it was against the Warriors, not the Raptors


you mean that one time lebron scored 50 vs a western team in the playoffs and lost because he choked in OT

[72-10]

One has to wonder how many makes those old school players had from three-point range. The old players say guys like Jerry West and Pete Maravich made quite a few.

Free throws, free throws, free throws, that's Harden's game. He chucks and flails.

[RRR3]

Lol, it was against the Warriors, not the Raptors
Kenny strikes again.

[RRR3]

you mean that one time lebron scored 50 vs a western team in the playoffs and lost because he choked in OT
Lol LeBron was completely robbed in that game.

If you weren’t a biased moron you’d know that.

[Gus Hemmingway]

Lol, it was against the Warriors, not the Raptors
bbbbbb bodied :roll:

[FKAri]

He passed himself? What?

[kennethgriffen]

Kenny strikes again.


you got that right


1. lebron was shook and passed at the last second because he was worried about possibly going to the line and bricking both ( as usual )


2. lebron failed to realize he could have turned to the ref standing 2 feet away from him and called timeout after jr smith failed to take the layup


3. lebron literally cried on the bench before OT


4. lebron choked/quit OT and the series after that


5. lebron was swept for the 2nd time in the finals and quit his team FOR THE 3RD TIME and took off with his tail tucked between his legs

6.


https://youtu.be/J4s5XOFnv7I?t=53

[Marchesk]

He passed himself? What?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e3/15/e6/e315e60700c94f2e637ffa4d9355c9e4.jpg

[RRR3]

Oh dear what a meltdown by Kenny :(

[bigkingsfan]

Legoat would be dropping 50 every game if he wasn't injured.

[LAmbruh]

Lol, it was against the Warriors, not the Raptors
pooooooooooooor Kenny melting hard :roll: :roll:

[kennethgriffen]

Oh dear what a meltdown by Kenny :(


translation: "i got nothing"


:lol

[kennethgriffen]

pooooooooooooor Kenny :roll: :roll:


"i've been colluding mostly unsuccessfully since 2007" - lebron james

:roll:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M97Lv4YDANk

[72-10]

Here's 40 point games - Jerry West does much better here, and that's without taking into account the three, so who knows, right? I mean, he didn't gun to get them, and he didn't even have a three with which to work: http://bkref.com/tiny/aL9jN

Plus we know West played nasty defense.

[RRR3]

At the end of the day LeBron has more rings as the best player on his team than Kobe.


And he always will.






And BOY, does that eat Kenny up inside :oldlol:

[LAmbruh]

the melt keeps pouring :roll:

[kennethgriffen]

At the end of the day LeBron has more rings as the best player on his team than Kobe.


And he always will.






And BOY, does that eat Kenny up inside :oldlol:


russell has more rings than jordan as the best player and overall


context is everything


eras/teammates/situations/lack of skills were the downfall for russell and also for lebron


plus the whole ring chasing, bail outs, lockouts, suspensions, collusion etc...

[Manny98]

Regular season meaningless especially in a L

Only frauds like Harden and Kobe go for regular season records because they can't replicate it come playoff time

[Marchesk]

Here's 40 point games - Jerry West does much better here, and that's without taking into account the three, so who knows, right? I mean, he didn't gun to get them, and he didn't even have a three with which to work: http://bkref.com/tiny/aL9jN

Plus we know West played nasty defense.


Yeah, he had range to shoot threes. He is a top 15 players all-time.

[kennethgriffen]

the melt keeps pouring :roll:



notice only one of us is able to keep up

:lol



spam your "what did kobe do in 2016" line again... at least that has something to do with basketball

:roll:

[RRR3]

russell has more rings than jordan as the best player and overall


context is everything


eras/teammates/situations/lack of skills were the downfall for russell and also for lebron


plus the whole ring chasing, bail outs, lockouts, suspensions, collusion etc...
Hmm. Sounds like a whole bunch of whining.


No matter how many tantrums you throw, Kobe will NEVER have as many best player on the team rings as LeBron does.







:(

[LAmbruh]

watch the lava flow boys :roll: :roll: :roll:

[SpaceJam]

Legoat would be dropping 50 every game if he wasn't injured.

this.

[superduper]

Woulda coulda shoulda

:rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[72-10]

look at this free throw attempt rate, just atrocious

[kennethgriffen]

kareem is arguable goat with 2 finals mvps and 6 rings


nobody argues magic/duncan/shaq ahead of him


people just know who the better player was and can tell when its a co lead ring


kobe has 2 co lead/2 ultimate lead dog/1 sidekick with 2 finals L's and no ring chasing, no colluding, no finals bail outs, no suspensions, no lockouts


lebron has 3 lead dog and 6 finals L's with 2 bail outs, 2 collusions, twice ring chasing, 1 suspension and 1 lockout



all in all i give kobe credit for 4.5 rings ( -0.5 for one )

lebron 1.5 rings tops ( -0.5 for all 3 )



nobody knocks kareems 1987 or 1988 rings and he was basically 2000 kobe by then


yet he has a full 6 rings to everyone


you're lucky i give kobe any deduction whatsoever

[RRR3]

Kenny desperately trying to convince himself 2 is more than 3.

[kennethgriffen]

Kenny desperately trying to convince himself 2 is more than 3.



4 is more than 3


co-lead are as good as lead dog


only kyrie irving has a higher finals average as 2nd option in history than 2 of kobes rings



29ppg and 27ppg in the 2001 and 2002 playoffs is a full ring whether you like it or not


you sir are the one whos trying to convince yourself of a lie



if i can give context to one of kobes rings and lebron fans can't give any context to any of his 3... then who exactly is lieing to themselves

[bison]

Agreed. James Harden has surpassed Lebron in empty stats.

[Manny98]

4 is more than 3


co-lead are as good as lead dog


only kyrie irving has a higher finals average as 2nd option in history than 2 of kobes rings



29ppg and 27ppg in the 2001 and 2002 playoffs is a full ring whether you like it or not


you sir are the one whos trying to convince yourself of a lie



if i can give context to one of kobes rings and lebron fans can't give any context to any of his 3... then who exactly is lieing to themselves
3 > 2 accept it

[RRR3]

“Co-lead dog” :roll:


No one in their right mind thinks Kobe was equal to Shaq.

Kobe was getting eviscerated by Allen Iverson (before they took him off Iverson from what I hear. Guess Phil got tired of watching AI light Kobe up like a Christmas tree) and shut down by the Sixers no name role players while Shaq was sodomizing DPOY Mutombo. But yeah. “Co lead dog” doeeeeeee

[SouBeachTalents]

kareem is arguable goat with 2 finals mvps and 6 rings


nobody argues magic/duncan/shaq ahead of him


people just know who the better player was and can tell when its a co lead ring


kobe has 2 co lead/2 ultimate lead dog/1 sidekick with 2 finals L's and no ring chasing, no colluding, no finals bail outs, no suspensions, no lockouts


lebron has 3 lead dog and 6 finals L's with 2 bail outs, 2 collusions, twice ring chasing, 1 suspension and 1 lockout



all in all i give kobe credit for 4.5 rings ( -0.5 for one )

lebron 1.5 rings tops ( -0.5 for all 3 )



nobody knocks kareems 1987 or 1988 rings and he was basically 2000 kobe by then


yet he has a full 6 rings to everyone


you're lucky i give kobe any deduction whatsoever
That's an insult to Kobe, especially '88 Kareem, dude was a 14 ppg role player

[kennethgriffen]

3 > 2 accept it


any way you look at it


without context 5 > 3


with context 4.5 > 1.5



either dissect both players rings or don't dissect either. you can't use context for just one guy



you're moving the goal posts to fit your agenda


classic lebron nutt boy techniques

[RRR3]

Kenny with his made up numbers.



The real numbers are



LeBron FMVPS/rings as best player on his team: 3

Kobe FMVPS/rings as best player on his team: 2


This is literally a fact.



I know it hurts Kenny but it’s true.

[kennethgriffen]

That's an insult to Kobe, especially '88 Kareem, dude was a 14 ppg role player


i'm willing to go above and beyond


shit.. throw away kobes 2000 ring all together. i don't care


even though he averaged 19ppg in the finals while playing and people wanna say 19ppg by gasol was some co lead shit


:roll:


he only saved the season twice ( once vs portland and again vs indiana )

but you can have it



take that ring and huck it in the dumpster






i got 4 others without ring chasing, colluding, suspensions, lockouts, bail outs to throw at these morons



:roll:

[Manny98]

as the 1st option (alpha dog) Kobe only has 2 rings 2.5 at most if i'm being generous

I don't know where you go 4.5 from :oldlol:

[SouBeachTalents]

i'm willing to go above and beyond


shit.. throw away kobes 2000 ring all together. i don't care


even though he averaged 19ppg in the finals while playing and people wanna say 19ppg by gasol was some co lead shit


:roll:


he only saved the season twice ( once vs portland and again vs indiana )

but you can have it



take that ring and huck it in the dumpster






i got 4 others without ring chasing, colluding, suspensions, lockouts, bail outs to throw at these morons



:roll:
:kobe: The fck are you rambling on about bruh :lol I was saying you're selling Kobe's first ring well short comparing it to Kareem's last

[kennethgriffen]

[QUOTE=RRR3]Kenny with his made up numbers.



The real numbers are



LeBron FMVPS/rings as best player on his team: 3

Kobe FMVPS/rings as best player on his team: 2


This is literally a fact.



I know it hurts Kenny but it

[RRR3]

Why does Kenny keep talking about Shaq’s accomplishments as part of Kobe’s legacy? :biggums:

[kennethgriffen]

:kobe: The fck are you rambling on about bruh :lol I was saying you're selling Kobe's first ring well short comparing it to Kareem's last


and i agree.. i'm just trying to make these leturds happy


give them a cookie.. i got 5 of em

even if i give one away i still got 4


:roll:

[RRR3]

except kobe was either co-lead or the best player in 2001 and 2002


he dominated the spurs/kings and shaq dominated todd maccaulughway or whatever his name is lol


shaqs finals mvps were a gift in a series that was wrapped from the start


context is everything


not all rings/awards are equal


barry bonds has an asterisk carved into his record breaking homerun ball for a reason
We’ve already been over Shaq going up against ELITE competition in the 01 finals in DPOY Mutombo. Doesn’t get much better than that. And guess what? Shaq absolutely destroyed him.

Meanwhile Kobe was getting shit on by AI and locked up by a bunch of nobodies.

As for the 02 playoffs Shaq averaged more points on much better efficiency. As usual. And I’m sure he had more impact as usual too.

[RRR3]

and i agree.. i'm just trying to make these leturds happy


give them a cookie.. i got 5 of em

even if i give one away i still got 4


:roll:
3 cookies Shaq baked and you’re giving Kobe credit for :lol

[kennethgriffen]

Why does Kenny keep talking about Shaq’s accomplishments as part of Kobe’s legacy? :biggums:



co-lead

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BESnCrgCAAEHKku.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTId0VHCAAA6yfD.jpg

if kobe wasn't a co-leader then nobody in history was ever a co-leader and kareem isn't top 5 anymore


oops... reality though

[kennethgriffen]

[QUOTE=RRR3]3 cookies Shaq baked and you

[RRR3]

co-lead

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BESnCrgCAAEHKku.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTId0VHCAAA6yfD.jpg

if kobe wasn't a co-leader then nobody in history was ever a co-leader and kareem isn't top 5 anymore


oops... reality though
What happened in the finals that year when Shaq was being guarded by the DPOY and Kobe was being guarded by scrubs?

I’m sure Shaq was shut down while Kobe dominated right?






















:yaohappy:

[kennethgriffen]

What happened in the finals that year when Shaq was being guarded by the DPOY and Kobe was being guarded by scrubs?

I’m sure Shaq was shut down while Kobe dominated right?


















:yaohappy:



the lakers only loss was a stunner in game 1 due to a 2 week layoff but anyone with a brain will tell you the spurs and kings were more of a challenge than iverson and old ass mutombo


that was a fluke season and it showed in hindsight



if there was a playoff mvp like in hockey kobe would have won it over shaq

[kennethgriffen]

i dunno why this RR3 cuck tries every day with me... doesn't he know i can go forever.


i'm a fountain of knowledge and facts


i never lost a debate in my life

[RRR3]

the lakers only loss was a stunner in game 1 due to a 2 week layoff but anyone with a brain will tell you the spurs and kings were more of a challenge than iverson and old ass mutombo


that was a fluke season and it showed in hindsight



if there was a playoff mvp like in hockey kobe would have won it over shaq
The only game the Lakers lost that entire playoffs was against the sixers when AI sent Kobe to the shadow realm with 48 points. 48!!!!

After that, Shaq realized he had to try even harder to overcome Kobe’s choking nature in the finals and of course, being Shaq, he did just that.

[RRR3]

You literally lose debates on here constantly.


Just the other day


Kenny: durrrr Luka is top 10 in da league. Arguably better than LeBron.

*ISH proceeds to embarrass Kenny as usual*

[kennethgriffen]

The only game the Lakers lost that entire playoffs was against the sixers when AI sent Kobe to the shadow realm with 48 points. 48!!!!

After that, Shaq realized he had to try even harder to overcome Kobe’s choking nature in the finals and of course, being Shaq, he did just that.


kobe was guarding eric snow and aaron mckie. they had lue on iverson to match his speed

:lol


it took a miracle game after a long layoff.. like i said. kobe was the mvp of the entire playoffs

even derek fisher said so on their 2001 championship dvd

[kennethgriffen]

You literally lose debates on here constantly.


Just the other day


Kenny: durrrr Luka is top 10 in da league. Arguably better than LeBron.

*ISH proceeds to embarrass Kenny as usual*



talent wise luka is top 10 ... if he had the supporting cast jokic has he would have a top 3 record and be considered a top 10 player in the mvp conversation

[RRR3]

kobe was guarding eric snow and aaron mckie. they had lue on iverson to match his speed

:lol


it took a miracle game after a long layoff.. like i said. kobe was the mvp of the entire playoffs

even derek fisher said so on their 2001 championship dvd
Kobe was too cowardly to guard AI after game 1, I know. I have it on good authority from an ISH legend and a noted kobetard (lakersreign) that Kobe guarded him in game 1 and then Phil put Lue on him, which, along with Shaq, obviously won them the series.

Not sure how Kobe is playoffs mvp after having an awful finals while Shaq puts up a LEGENDARY performance against one of the best defensive centers of all time.

[RRR3]

talent wise luka is top 10 ... if he had the supporting cast jokic has he would have a top 3 record and be considered a top 10 player in the mvp conversation
Guarantee you Jokic would have lead the Mavericks to a better record than Luka has.

[kennethgriffen]

Kobe was too cowardly to guard AI after game 1, I know. I have it on good authority from an ISH legend and a noted kobetard (lakersreign) that Kobe guarded him in game 1 and then Phil put Lue on him, which, along with Shaq, obviously won them the series.

Not sure how Kobe is playoffs mvp after having an awful finals while Shaq puts up a LEGENDARY performance against one of the best defensive centers of all time.


kobe can't match AI's speed... AI can't match kobes size.. they're 2 completely different players


kobes a SG/SF type... iversons a scoring PG... hes literally the fastest player in league history. kobes a great defender but even MJ couldn't keep up with AI


you have to put small ultra quick guys on him like lue



and what won the lakers the series in 2001 was them being infinitely better... the real finals was against the spurs in which kobe put on an all time legendary display


and if not them then against sacramento where he also put on a legendary display


shaq hogged in the finals and said "feed the dog or the dog won't guard the house" ... he knew all that mattered was how you played in the finals so he coasted on the back of kobes greatness past the teams that could actually match up with them


shaq routinely got in foul trouble or would get hackashaq'd in the 4th quarter forcing kobe to take over


shaq always had trouble vs duncan/robinson.. kobe was the best player in literally every series against them


kobe 1999 vs spurs = 21/7/4 ( responsible for 29ppg )
kobe 2001 vs spurs = 33/7/7 ( responsible for 47ppg )
kobe 2002 vs spurs = 26/5/5 ( responsible for 36ppg )
kobe 2003 vs spurs = 32/5/4 ( responsible for 40ppg )
kobe 2004 vs spurs = 26/6/6 ( responsible for 38ppg )


shaq 1999 vs spurs = 23/13/0 ( responsible for 23ppg )
shaq 2001 vs spurs = 27/13/2 ( responsible for 31ppg )
shaq 2002 vs spurs = 21/12/3 ( responsible for 27ppg )
shaq 2003 vs spurs = 25/14/3 ( responsible for 31ppg )
shaq 2004 vs spurs = 22/14/2 ( responsible for 26ppg )






but shaq took out 40 year old deke.. congrats


https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/laker-shaquille-oneal-makes-the-move-on-dikembe-mutombo-for-a-slam-picture-id569113765

:roll:

[RRR3]

Shaq was slowed down when he was being double teamed by two of the best interior defenders of all time? Gee you don’t ****ing say.

Luckily for Kobe, Shaq was obviously smart enough to recognize his teammate had an easier matchup.

If only Kobe could have realized that in 2004.

[kennethgriffen]

[QUOTE=RRR3]Shaq was slowed down when he was being double teamed by two of the best interior defenders of all time? Gee you don

[kennethgriffen]

i really don't understand why this kid is even trying. does he not know who the f*ck i am?

:biggums:

[RRR3]

you mean 2 of the greatest interior defenders that kobe shat on routinely?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQxgHgRh95Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAKGbrqjzY4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qnhjlEZdwo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eH4eWyCEE0



most of kobes points back then came going to the basket/in the paint you ****ing idiot
1. Kobe was quicker than both of them. According to you that makes it okay to get shat on. Be consistent.

2. You really think Duncan and David Robinson were as worried about Kobe as they were about Shaq? :lol. I didn’t even watch those series but I can tell you just from watching basketball that’s a ridiculous statement. That’s like saying Rudy Gobert and Derrick Favors would be more concerned about Jimmy Butler than Joel Embiid.

[RRR3]

i really don't understand why this kid is even trying. does he not know who the f*ck i am?

:biggums:
Yeah I know who you are. You’re well known as one of the most consistently wrong and stupid posters on this site.

Not sure why you think that’s something to be proud of.

[kennethgriffen]

[QUOTE=RRR3]1. Kobe was quicker than both of them. According to you that makes it okay to get shat on. Be consistent.

2. You really think Duncan and David Robinson were as worried about Kobe as they were about Shaq? :lol. I didn

[kennethgriffen]

[QUOTE=RRR3]Yeah I know who you are. You