3 on 3 LeBron/Westbrook/Harden vs Kobe/Durant/Jordan

[TheImmortal]

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Who you got? Statmonsters triple dubs vs scoring non-monopolizing wings..

[hiphopanonymous]

the team with Kobe and MJ

[TheImmortal]

the team with Kobe and MJ
But they don't pass the ball though.. Harden/LeBron/Westbrook = unselfish team.. they'd probably average 30+assists and 30+rebounds combined. :confusedshrug: :lol

[superduper]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[Bankaii]

What idiotic teams, even for an agenda.

[LAmbruh]

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[TheImmortal]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
Average weight/ size 240 vs 210

= Advantage team LeBron

[hiphopanonymous]

But they don't pass the ball though.. Harden/LeBron/Westbrook = unselfish team.. they'd probably average 30+assists and 30+rebounds combined. :confusedshrug: :lol
Their pass to shoot ratio is perfection in my opinion - they pass, 5+ apg is hardly a player that doesn't pass. If I wanted a team to win at some exhibition tourney of some sort and Kobe and MJ are my options vs say, a LeBron and Westbrook I'm taking MJ and Kobe every time because I just think they've got more grit and less hesitation to shoot the damn ball. You hesitate too much fishing for assists you can get killed in 3 on 3. MJ and Kobe are the type to strike while the iron is hot. They'd pass if it was the right play to make - but they wouldn't drain the clock and get stuck dribbling too much either.

[Ainosterhaspie]

Team MJ has a big advantage with height and length. Kobe taller/longer than Westbrook, MJ taller/longer than Harden, Durant taller/longer than James. Right out of the gate before you even look at abilities, team Jordan had a significant advantage.

Team MJ also has a defensive advantage since Harden and Westbrook are not very good defensively. Durant isn't that great a defender either, but he's better than those two.

Team Jordan are all top 25 all time or better. Team LeBron has a fringe top 25 guy in Harden (that may be too generous) and a guy in Westbrook who probably isn't really even top 40.

So before you even start looking at offensive abilities, team Jordan has a huge advantage. Since team LeBron in a best case scenario is roughly equal to team Jordan, and team Jordan has the significant size and defensive edge, this is easily team Jordan.

[hiphopanonymous]

Average weight/ size 240 vs 210

= Advantage team LeBron
Average Championships 4.3 vs 1.

[3ball]

But they don't pass the ball though.. Harden/LeBron/Westbrook = unselfish team.. they'd probably average 30+assists and 30+rebounds combined. :confusedshrug: :lol

Westbrook/Harden/Lebron all play on low-assist teams:



Harden's Rockets: 28th

Westbrook's OKC: 25th

Lebron Lakers: 14th


These guys get their 8-10 apg by holding the ball the entire game - there wouldn't be room for 2 guys to hold the ball that long to get 10 assists, let alone 3 guys

The harden/westbrook/lebron team would be a mess - one of them would get to play their game (hold the ball all game for 10 assists), while the others would be standing off-ball not knowing what to do

Otoh, Kobe/MJ/Durant all play on high assist teams, because these guys have an off-ball skillset and are highly assisted players... IN ADDITION to their elite on-ball capability... And that's the thing - Durant/Kobe/MJ could easily play the playground style and dominate the ball like harden/westbrook/lebron, but then they wouldn't have 13 combined rings (westbrook/harden/lebron only have 3, none organic)

[TheImmortal]

Team MJ has a big advantage with height and length. Kobe taller/longer than Westbrook, MJ taller/longer than Harden, Durant taller/longer than James. Right out of the gate before you even look at abilities, team Jordan had a significant advantage.

Team MJ also has a defensive advantage since Harden and Westbrook are not very good defensively. Durant isn't that great a defender either, but he's better than those two.

Team Jordan are all top 25 all time or better. Team LeBron has a fringe top 25 guy in Harden (that may be too generous) and a guy in Westbrook who probably isn't really even top 40.

So before you even start looking at offensive abilities, team Jordan has a huge advantage. Since team LeBron in a best case scenario is roughly equal to team Jordan, and team Jordan has the significant size and defensive edge, this is easily team Jordan.
Obviously youre suffering from sudden amnesia, but to many Big O was a top 10 player because he was at the time the only player to average a triple dub for a season.. How many players averaged a triple double for 3 straight seasons... yet we're lead to believe Westbrook isn't top 40? :wtf: :facepalm


Also Harden is just getting started in his career probably having another MVP season.. back to back MVP seasons. Westbrook 1, Harden 2, LeBron 4 (7 total) vs Jordan 6, Kobe 1 and Durant 1 (8 total).. seems pretty even if you ask me. MVP = holy grail and the only current player on the latter team is capped when it comes to reg season MVP.. and again huge size advantage for team LeBron at ~240 vs ~210.

[Ainosterhaspie]

Obviously youre suffering from sudden amnesia, but to many Big O was a top 10 player because he was at the time the only player to average a triple dub for a season.. How many players averaged a triple double for 3 straight seasons... yet we're lead to believe Westbrook isn't top 40? :wtf: :facepalm


Also Harden is just getting started in his career probably having another MVP season.. back to back MVP seasons. Westbrook 1, Harden 2, LeBron 4 (7 total) vs Jordan 6, Kobe 1 and Durant 1 (8 total).. seems pretty even if you ask me. MVP = holy grail and the only current player on the latter team is capped when it comes to reg season MVP.. and again huge size advantage for team LeBron at ~240 vs ~210.
Big O is irrelevant other than that he's one of the many guys bumping Westbrook down the all time list.

Weight does matter as much as length/height in these matchups.

Westbrook isn't a good defender, he isn't a good scorer and he doesn't play smart. His high rebounding numbers are largely due to the team deliberately working to increase his numbers rather than because he's taking rebounds from the other team. They are irrelevant to his all time ranking. I do credit him for being better than most point guards as a rebounder, but it doesn't move the needle much in the all time rankings. He's not first option and he's of questionable value as a second option because he doesn't seem to recognize his scoring limitations.

[ronniec]

Durant on Lebron
Kobe on Westbrook
Jordan on Harden

What do you think?

[TheImmortal]

Big O is irrelevant other than that he's one of the many guys bumping Westbrook down the all time list.

Weight does matter as much as length/height in these matchups.

Westbrook isn't a good defender, he isn't a good scorer and he doesn't play smart. His high rebounding numbers are largely due to the team deliberately working to increase his numbers rather than because he's taking rebounds from the other team. They are irrelevant to his all time ranking. I do credit him for being better than most point guards as a rebounder, but it doesn't move the needle much in the all time rankings. He's not first option and he's of questionable value as a second option because he doesn't seem to recognize his scoring limitations.
:wtf: Way to discredit Westbrook.. if it's say easy to rack 10+ rebounds and assists.. why hasn't Bron done it once in either category?


Also..

LeBron according to his stans is bigger, faster, stronger than MJ.. 6ft 9 vs 6ft 5..


Westbrook is a hyperathlete the best rebounder at his position by far.. Kobe isn't even top 20 athlete at his position..

Durant vs Harden.. who wins in a bench press contest? hint: Beard



I think this is a fair matchup.. sure one has more size (240 vs 210) and other a little more length.. but lets not get crazy here. :facepalm



Focus on the style of play more than a physical.. one style wins more than the other imho.

[kennethgriffen]

durant > lebron, westbrook, harden

kobe > lebron, westbrook, harden

jordan > lebron, westbrook, harden



this isnt even fair

[Ainosterhaspie]

:wtf: Way to discredit Westbrook.. if it's say easy to rack 10+ rebounds and assists.. why hasn't Bron done it once in either category?

Because contrary to the faulty narrative, LeBron teams have never instituted a team effort and goal to get him extra rebounds and assists. Adams routinely watches rebounds fall to the floor right next to him so Westbrook can grab the rebounds. And unlike Westbrook, LeBron actually is a great scorer who should be trying to score instead of getting assists. Assists is the one area of Westbrook's game where he really should be getting big numbers. It's where he can help his team most. That should be his primary contribution to offense whereas it should be a secondary contribution by James to his team's offense.


LeBron according to his stans is bigger, faster, stronger than MJ.. 6ft 9 vs 6ft 5..


So what? He's matched up against Durant in this scenario. Jordan is on the shorter Harden. Even if team LeBron use their mass to get good position, team Jordan can use their length to bother shots without jumping. Meanwhile team LeBron has to jump to bother shots or team Jordan can just shoot over them. They can defend more easily with less effort, and they can just shoot over the other guys.



Durant vs Harden.. who wins in a bench press contest? hint: Beard


Doesn't matter when Durant can shoot over him like he's not there and can just stand nearby and alter shots with his lanky height and wingspan.

[FKAri]

LeBron
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[kennethgriffen]

LeBron
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well since you put it that way.. i guess you win...





























a giant bag of D*cks... f@ggot

[hiphopanonymous]

LeBron
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https://nbcprobasketballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/kobe-blocks-lebron-e1361167475309.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Tfq3V6C5dA

[TheImmortal]

Because contrary to the faulty narrative, LeBron teams have never instituted a team effort and goal to get him extra rebounds and assists. Adams routinely watches rebounds fall to the floor right next to him so Westbrook can grab the rebounds. And unlike Westbrook, LeBron actually is a great scorer who should be trying to score instead of getting assists. Assists is the one area of Westbrook's game where he really should be getting big numbers. It's where he can help his team most. That should be his primary contribution to offense whereas it should be a secondary contribution by James to his team's offense.
Utter nonsense.. if you recall, LeBron grabbed the ball out of teammate Ben Wallace's hands in order to get that vaunted 50pt triple double at MSG.. which was later credited to Ben Wallace after further review. https://youtu.be/qAElGAIkn4w?t=657

Later he dove into the crowd to padd his stats in a decided game.. LeBron's been throwing those gernade balls at the end of shot clock, quarters to protect his FG% and/or get a bailout assist.. Also he's been getting inside free-throw rebounds/ team rebounds over say their center (whether it was Andy V, Big Z, Bosh, Birdman and the plethora of athletic big men he's had that were very capable of rebounding the ball.

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Bron "check my stats"

LeBron's whole objective is to accumulate stats.. thats the LeBron system TM .. blatant statpadding is what he does and Westbrook is merely employing the same tactic but just doing it better. At 6ft 3 its going to look a little more obvious in terms of rebounds, but LeBron is just as bad if not worse.




Doesn't matter when Durant can shoot over him like he's not there and can just stand nearby and alter shots with his lanky height and wingspan.
Who needs length when you can take 3 steps back? :biggums: Nobody is blocking Harden's shot here bud.

[Spurs m8]

Is this a joke thread?

Team 2 would win 10 times out of 10

[superduper]

After team 2 wins every single time you know they'd be crying for "MOAR HALP!!! :cry: "

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[bison]

Team MJ has a big advantage with height and length. Kobe taller/longer than Westbrook, MJ taller/longer than Harden, Durant taller/longer than James.

The Lebron team is thicker and stronger though.

Guess it depends whether you value LENGTH over GIRTH. It

[nineiron]

durant > lebron, westbrook, harden

kobe > lebron, westbrook, harden

jordan > lebron, westbrook, harden



this isnt even fair

this.

it isn't even close

[FKAri]

[QUOTE=bison]The Lebron team is thicker and stronger though.

Guess it depends whether you value LENGTH over GIRTH. It

[ImKobe]

It would be a whole lot of this...

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4f/37/6a/4f376aca527e5ac1686670fc21d1f26c.gif

And this....

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/11494741/slack_imgs_4.gif

And this...

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/8617085/KD_dunk.0.gif




https://i.pinimg.com/originals/16/d9/22/16d922c91d35550399c0786d7d2be97a.gif

[AirBonner]

LeBron and Harden always find ways to win with LESS. Kobe would compromise the offense by getting jealous of the shots that Jordan would be taking and chuck them out of the game. Facts.

[hiphopanonymous]

It would be a whole lot of this...

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4f/37/6a/4f376aca527e5ac1686670fc21d1f26c.gif

And this....

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/11494741/slack_imgs_4.gif

And this...

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/8617085/KD_dunk.0.gif




https://i.pinimg.com/originals/16/d9/22/16d922c91d35550399c0786d7d2be97a.gif
Yikes /thread :applause:

[AirBonner]

Yikes /thread :applause:
wasn't kobe's record vs Lebron 6-16? yikes. kobe's biggest moments were in an allstar game :oldlol:

[Phoenix]

wasn't kobe's record vs Lebron 6-16? yikes. kobe's biggest moments were in an allstar game :oldlol:

* cues Kenneth's 1v1 breakdown in 5...4...3....2....1

[jayfan]

I'm not sure Team Lebron/Harden/Westbrook would win 1 out of 10.



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[hiphopanonymous]

wasn't kobe's record vs Lebron 6-16? yikes. kobe's biggest moments were in an allstar game :oldlol:
Doesn

[diamenz]

just get the ball to whoever harden is guarding and call it a day.

[FKAri]

just get the ball to whoever harden is guarding and call it a day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63TDVWnZ5K8

[Lakessss]

Kobe's record against Lebron
6-16

Durant's record against Lebron prior to GSW
4-17

:confusedshrug:

[Vino24]

The interesting problem both of these teams would face is Westbrook and Kobe chucking. It would be close

[Soundwave]

Defensively the Jordan/Kobe/Durant team is better and can score as well or probably better as that team has better shooters.

The other problem is none of LeBron/Westbrook/Harden are great at playing off the ball. LeBron would have to be told to get his ass on the block and I don't think he'd want to do that.

Westbrook's height is a problem too IMO defensively, at 6'3 he's giving up a good 3 inches to either Kobe or Jordan, they would be able to get whatever shot they want on him.

Then you have Harden who can't guard either Kobe or Jordan either.

And quite frankly, I don't think LeBron can guard Durant either, Durant is taller than him and can just shoot right over him.

[Lakessss]

Should have been something like

Lebron, Curry, Kawhi

I'd take that team

[TheImmortal]

Should have been something like

Lebron, Curry, Kawhi

I'd take that team
Is Curry guarding Jordan or Kobe in that matchup?

[diamenz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63TDVWnZ5K8

oh boy, an anomoly. come on, man.

[imdaman99]

Jordan and Kobe are killers and mentally superior to everyone. The only one on the first team who has street hunger is Westbrook and he is clearly the 5th or 6th best player in this game. But he is an underrated defender when motivated. Can he guard KD when KD wants to take a fadeaway? No, but no one can. He's been playing good defense this year :confusedshrug: But both he and Harden are good post defenders. As long as Lebron does a good job on KD it should be a good game.

Those idiots worried about Westbrook chucking, don't really know the guy. He would have no problem deferring to better players.

[hiphopanonymous]

This would be a bloodbath in favor of the 2nd group it seems pretty unanimous too. Kobe and MJ on the same team is just too much.

[tpols]

Durant on Lebron
Kobe on Westbrook
Jordan on Harden

What do you think?



put durant on harden to bother his stepback with length, Kobe shadow on westbrook is great we saw it work in '10 playoffs and vs rondo as well.


Let MJ guard lebron, there's no way despite the weight disadvantage, he would allow Lebron to bully ball him. his instincts for shifting weight , pulling the chair, poking at the ball were so elite lebron wouldnt be able to string more than a couple dribbles together in the post.

[AirBonner]

Prime Westbrook would be a problem for Jordan. Kobe would be Jealous of Jordan and chuck them out of the game