I wish LeBron would stop holding Ingram back

[And1AllDay]

Ingram has been on an absolute tear since LeBron has been off the court and I hope LeBron doesn't come back soon because then we will miss these big games and wont get these games again from Ingram:

Ingrams scoring in his last 5 games WITHOUT LeBron to hold him back:

10, 15, 22, 16, 8 = Wow amazing, 14.2 ppg

**He also has ONE whole steal in these 5 games :eek: ONE steal in 5 games

I am so glad to see LeBron not holding him back for once so he can flourish with 14.2 ppg and 1 steal in 5 full games :applause:

[Uncle Drew]

He shot 1-9 the other day too. Honouring the 1-9 Dad Killer in the best way possible. :bowdown:

[TheCorporation]

He shot 1-9 the other day too. Honouring the 1-9 Dad Killer in the best way possible. :bowdown:

3ball did say that Ingraham was like a young Pippen so the 1-9 MJ link just makes even more sense now.

[superduper]

Oh look it's another "Bran needs moar halp!!" thread.

#LeGOAT :rockon:

[3ball]

The Lebron-less Lakers have 3 guys that are > 2nd year pippen, 4 guys including rondo

Ingram is still figuring out how to find his offense alongside 2 other guys that are better than 2nd year Pippen

Btw, the sign of a good player is that when his offense isn't rolling, he contributes in other areas - it's actually a veteran thing to do, and that's what Ingram did last night with 11 assists

Ingram has always been a crazy talent - it's like if you're looking at a stacked team play, and you marvel how even the 3rd guy down the rotation is a 6'9" rangy athlete that can play as well as anyone out there..
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[PeroAntic]

Ingram is nowhere near as explosive and athletic as Pippen, and neither has the potential to be, so that comparison is stupid.

However, what is even more stupid is someone who thinks that the second a player around whom the system is built gets injured, the others should miraculously play in a radically different fashion.

There is zero doubt that Lebronball has halted Ingram's progress, and there is zero doubt that Lebronball effects don't just disappear the second Lebron gets injured.

[3ball]

However, what is even more stupid is someone who thinks that the second a player around whom the system is built gets injured, the others should miraculously play in a radically different fashion.

There is zero doubt that Lebronball has halted Ingram's progress, and there is zero doubt that Lebronball effects don't just disappear the second Lebron gets injured

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Exactly, well said





Ingram is nowhere near as explosive and athletic as Pippen, and neither has the potential to be, so that comparison is stupid.


So I guess doncic has zero chance of ever passing Jimmy Butler, since he isn't as athletic and never will be?

Also, the recently-turned 21-year old Ingram is already a more skilled ball-handler than pippen ever was, and a far better shooter at the same age, and longer - his superior skill with the ball, shooting, and length won't necessitate the physiology of a pippen.

He's absolutely a talent and his current trajectory is all-star caliber.
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[PeroAntic]

So I guess doncic has zero chance of ever passing Jimmy Butler, since he isn't as athletic and never will be?

Also, the recently-turned 21-year old Ingram is already more a skilled ball-handler than pippen ever was, and a far better shooter at the same age, and longer - his superior skill with the ball, shooting, and length won't necessitate the physiology of a pippen.

He's absolutely a talent and his current trajectory is all-star caliber.
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I think Ingram is headed to allstar level player too, but he isn't similar to Pippen. Pippen was Pippen because of his athleticism and explosiveness. Also Ingram is a good defender but he will never be Pippen level good which is ATG. He doesn't shoot that much better, or is that more skilled that would compensate for the above.

[Hey Yo]

I think Ingram is headed to allstar level player too, but he isn't similar to Pippen. Pippen was Pippen because of his athleticism and explosiveness. Also Ingram is a good defender but he will never be Pippen level good which is ATG. He doesn't shoot that much better, or is that more skilled that would compensate for the above.
You mean All-Star level like this years Wade who's supposedly playing at an All-star level?

[3ball]

I think Ingram is headed to allstar level player too, but he isn't similar to Pippen. Pippen was Pippen because of his athleticism and explosiveness. Also Ingram is a good defender but he will never be Pippen level good which is ATG. He doesn't shoot that much better, or is that more skilled that would compensate for the above.
Ingram is a 16-18 ppg scorer at 21 years and 4 months, while 22-year old pippen was a 7 ppg scorer and 17% three-point shooter

And Pippen wasn't a good NBA defender as a rookie either.. so I wouldn't make too many judgements about what Ingram might be at 23 or 25 on either end.. or by the end of this season

[Uncle Drew]

You mean All-Star level like this years Wade who's supposedly playing at an All-star level this year?
Carmelo too.

[scuzzy]

Anyone else find it funny that posters like 3ball and PeroAntic despite watching zero Lakers basketball still believe Ingraham is the Lakers 2nd option? :oldlol:

[PeroAntic]

Ingram is a 16-18 ppg scorer at 21 years and 4 months, while 22-year old pippen was a 7 ppg scorer and 17% three-point shooter

And Pippen wasn't a good NBA defender as a rookie either.. so I wouldn't make too many judgements about what Ingram might be at 23 or 25 on either end.. or by the end of this season
Three point shooting wasn't that important at the time. Also both age and ppg is different today, so they can't be used as a measuring stick. Ingram will never be as good as Pippen, and whether he is better at something and at some point of Pippen's career is irrelevant and just something you use to prop the theory that MJ had no halp, which makes you no better than the LeMorons. MJ is the GOAT at there is no need to make Pippen a worse player to prove it. Leave that strategy to Simon and his alts.

Also, LeMorons please get off my nuts and tend to those of your idol as usual. thanks

[Uncle Drew]

Anyone else find it funny that posters like 3ball and PeroAntic despite watching zero Lakers basketball still believe Ingraham is the Lakers 2nd option? :oldlol:
3ball and Pero Antic agreeing with one another is the pinnacle of ISH. We have officially peaked, like Steph in OKC. It

[3ball]

Three point shooting wasn't that important at the time. Also both age and ppg is different today, so they can't be used as a measuring stick. Ingram will never be as good as Pippen, and whether he is better at something and at some point of Pippen's career is irrelevant and just something you use to prop the theory that MJ had no halp, which makes you no better than the LeMorons. MJ is the GOAT at there is no need to make Pippen a worse player to prove it. Leave that strategy to Simon and his alts.

Also, LeMorons please get off my nuts and tend to those of your idol as usual. thanks
Well he'll probably never win 6 rings like pippen, if that's what you mean

But he's already been better than pippen in HS, college, draft and thru 2 NBA seasons... and his skills are far ahead of pippen's at the same age (21)...

Scrawny 21- year olds are scrawny 21-year olds.. this kid is going to grow even more into his body and become an even better athlete

So you have no idea how this 21-year old will turn out, and it's worth mentioning that if he never reaches pippen's level of play, it's because he never played with MJ.. otherwise, the ability and trajectory is there

[ShawkFactory]

Well he'll probably never win 6 rings like pippen, if that's what you mean

But he's already been better than pippen in HS, college, draft and thru 2 NBA seasons... and his skills are far ahead of pippen's at the same age (21)...

Scrawny 21- year olds are scrawny 21-year olds.. this kid is going to grow even more into his body and become an even better athlete

So you have no idea how this 21-year old will turn out, and it's worth mentioning that if he never reaches pippen's level of play, it's because he never played with MJ.. otherwise, the ability and trajectory is there
I think he means that he'll never be as impactful of a basketball player as Pippen was.

[3ball]

I think he means that he'll never be as impactful of a basketball player as Pippen was.
He was more impactful in HS, college, draft and thru 2 NBA seasons... and his skills are far ahead of pippen's at the same age, while already being better a better ball-handler and shooter than pippen ever was

Scrawny 21- year olds are scrawny 21-year olds.. this kid is going to grow even more into his body and become an even better athlete

So you have no idea how this 21-year old will turn out, and it's worth mentioning that if he never reaches pippen's level of peak impact, it's because he never played with MJ.. otherwise, the ability at the same age and trajectory is there

[imdaman99]

I've seen enough, Ingram is soft and he won't be able to play well for the Lakers. A fresh start, I'll take a flyer on him on the Knicks. Who do y'all want minus KP or Knox? THJ?

[3ball]

I've seen enough, Ingram is soft and he won't be able to play well for the Lakers. A fresh start, I'll take a flyer on him on the Knicks. Who do y'all want minus KP or Knox? THJ?
That's what they said about 23-year old pippen, let alone 21-year old Ingram

Who's the last 6'9", 21-year old to get 11 assists and have skill with the ball like ingram?

it's not exactly common place

[Rico2016]

Anyone else find it funny that posters like 3ball and PeroAntic despite watching zero Lakers basketball still believe Ingraham is the Lakers 2nd option? :oldlol:

It is pretty funny because it's obvious they don't watcher Laker games

[talkingconch]

kuzma has surpassed him

[coin24]

Kuzma has always been better.

OP should wish to be wheeled outside

[PeroAntic]

He was more impactful in HS, college, draft and thru 2 NBA seasons... and his skills are far ahead of pippen's at the same age, while already being better a better ball-handler and shooter than pippen ever was

Scrawny 21- year olds are scrawny 21-year olds.. this kid is going to grow even more into his body and become an even better athlete

So you have no idea how this 21-year old will turn out, and it's worth mentioning that if he never reaches pippen's level of peak impact, it's because he never played with MJ.. otherwise, the ability at the same age and trajectory is there
Lance Stephenson is more skilled than Pippen.. Theres a lot more to the game than ballhandling esp for a wing. And no growing into his body will make Ingram as agile or as explosive as Pippen. lets not forget about mentality too. I love Ingram's game but he's not a dog. Pippen was a dog.

That being said, Ingram would be so much better (almost all star level) next to pretty much any other star in the game (AD, Kawhi). Lebronball is all about Lebron

[And1AllDay]

Oh look it's another "Bran needs moar halp!!" thread.

#LeGOAT :rockon:

No way man, a second option that plays no defense at all and is a "scorer" with ONE career 30-point game in over 200 games is a great second option :cheers: