Ranking all time players by impact on team success

[AirBonner]

Who are your top 5?

['Toine=MVP]

Impact on the sport?

1. MJ
2a. Bird
2b. Magic
4. Wilt
5. Russell

[Vino24]

1. Russell
2. LeBron
3. Kareem
4. Duncan
5. Curry

['Toine=MVP]

1. Russell
2. LeBron
3. Kareem
4. Duncan
5. Curry

Duncan didn't change/shape the NBA at all. Very low on impact. LeBron either really. But way more than Duncan.

[AirBonner]

Duncan didn't change/shape the NBA at all. Very low on impact.
We are going by impact on team success

[Gus Hemmingway]

1. Lebron
2. Russell
3. Pippen
4. Magic
5. Havlicek

['Toine=MVP]

We are going by impact on team success


Change the title. That is a confusing one. "Impact on team success" is really an odd subject anyway. You mean on titles? Some type of subjective "title shares" kind of thing?

[AirBonner]

Change the title. That is a confusing one. "Impact on team success" is really an odd subject anyway. You mean on titles? Some type of subjective "title shares" kind of thing?
I mean like how their teams functioned with them on and off the court

[SouBeachTalents]

Jordan
LeBron
Russell
Magic
Bird

[Akrazotile]

1. Lebron
2. Russell
3. Pippen
4. Magic
5. Havlicek

This looks about right, tho Id prob leave #2 empty and put Russell at #3 since the gap after Bron is that large. Also would take Shaq above Hondo and give George Mikan an HM. But overall it’s a very astute listing.

['Toine=MVP]

I mean like how their teams functioned with them on and off the court

Eh. Kind of a double edged sword. The best players will create an environment in which the team will succeed when they are off the court or hurt even. The greatest players make the players around them better, not just when they are on the court together. However, if you have a bad enough team, it won't matter much and there will be a big drop-off, so I don't think that you can find much with the off the court part of the equation.

I guess I can't really answer.

I can answer who had the biggest impact on the sport/who has the biggest legacy.

I can answer who had the most talent.

I can (try to) answer who contributed most to ring counts (even though I think it would be a weak question).

But I don't think this question has much meaning.

[BANE?]

Disturbed by the lack of Shaq in this thread

[Manny98]

1. LeBron
2. Russell
3. Shaq
4. Magic
5. Jordan