Why was Kobe an All-Star in 1998?

[StrongLurk]

Only started 1 game all year, put up a very pedestrian line of 15/3/3 on 43/34/79...clearly not even close to an all star. Kobe would go on to get swept by the Jazz in the playoffs and only averaged 10/2/1 on 37/0/69 in that series (and had that infamous barrage of air ball threes).

Seems pretty obvious the NBA tried to hype him up way before he was even a good player because it was MJ's last year...just another example of Kobe having accolades he didn't deserve (see all-nba defense awards).

[Dray n Klay]

They tried to create the next Jordan


And it failed miserably

[StrongLurk]

They tried to create the next Jordan


And it failed miserably

Kobe is one of the best players ever though and IS the most similar to Jordan in terms of playstyle...but he still has a bunch of accolades he didn't come close to deserving.

[Xiao Yao You]

Only started 1 game all year, put up a very pedestrian line of 15/3/3 on 43/34/79...clearly not even close to an all star. Kobe would go on to get swept by the Jazz in the playoffs and only averaged 10/2/1 on 37/0/69 in that series (and had that infamous barrage of air ball threes).

Seems pretty obvious the NBA tried to hype him up way before he was even a good player because it was MJ's last year...just another example of Kobe having accolades he didn't deserve (see all-nba defense awards).

They do that. Garnett made it a year before he actually deserved it

[eliteballer]

Kobe was doing that in only 26 minutes a game, and percentages were different back then because you could actually play defense.

[Real14]

They tried to create the next Jordan


And it failed miserably
He had 5 rings while the guy who was supposed to be better than Jordan had 3 asterisk rings.

[StrongLurk]

Kobe was doing that in only 26 minutes a game, and percentages were different back then because you could actually play defense.

That's STILL not all-star level...come on man. He didn't even start on his team .Eddie Jones was solid, but also not an all star player even though he somehow made it to the all star in 98 as well. I always say the last half of the 90's is the weakest modern era time period.

Kobe played better in 99, yet DIDNT make the all star team...I wonder why (MJ was gone)

[kennethgriffen]

because people knew if he was given starter minutes he'd be averaging 20+



he had the talent and was obviously better than eddie at the time but del harris was a prick and got canned because of it


kobe was the best player for the west that allstar game and 2nd best for the entire allstar game overall




1998 kobe dropped 30+ on MVP jordan twice ... according to 3ball hes better than peak kobe but he couldn't even handle a 19 year old version lol

[bigkingsfan]

He was a fan favorite.

[StrongLurk]

because people knew if he was given starter minutes he'd be averaging 20+



he had the talent and was obviously better than eddie at the time but del harris was a prick and got canned because of it


kobe was the best player for the west that allstar game and 2nd best for the entire allstar game overall




1998 kobe dropped 30+ on MVP jordan twice ... according to 3ball hes better than peak kobe but he couldn't even handle a 19 year old version lol

Then why did Kobe go on to get swept by the Jazz in the 98 playoffs and only average 10/2/1 on 37/0/69 in that series (and had that infamous barrage of air ball threes)?

CLEARLY he was not an all-star caliber player, having 5 or 6 good scoring games over an entire season is not a big deal at all.

Kobe played 38mpg in 1999 and still only put up 20/5/4 on 46/27/84...which is nothing special given those minutes.

It's extremely obvious that Kobe should not have been voted as an all-star in 1998. I mean, yeah that time frame was the weakest of the modern era...but still.

[superduper]

Why does Bran still have a sore vag

[StrongLurk]

Why does Bran still have a sore vag

Why so mad? It's not like this is some troll or ludicrous topic.

The objective numbers and eye test clearly showed that Kobe was NOT allstar level.

Maybe he was an injury replacement and I am forgetting?

[kennethgriffen]

Then why did Kobe go on to get swept by the Jazz in the 98 playoffs and only average 10/2/1 on 37/0/69 in that series (and had that infamous barrage of air ball threes)?

CLEARLY he was not an all-star caliber player, having 5 or 6 good scoring games over an entire season is not a big deal at all.

Kobe played 38mpg in 1999 and still only put up 20/5/4 on 46/27/84...which is nothing special given those minutes.

It's extremely obvious that Kobe should not have been voted as an all-star in 1998. I mean, yeah that time frame was the weakest of the modern era...but still.



20/5/4 at 20 years old as the 2nd option behind a near 30ppg player with a 3rd option averaging 18ppg ( glen rice )


nothing special


lol

[Dray n Klay]

20/5/4 at 20 years old as the 2nd option behind a near 30ppg player with a 3rd option averaging 18ppg ( glen rice )


nothing special


lol

Why was Kobe an all star in 2016

[kennethgriffen]

Why was Kobe an all star in 2016

i admit he didn't deserve that one...


but didn't he drop like 40 on lebron that year with like 70% shooting

:lol

[Dray n Klay]

i admit he didn't deserve that one...


but didn't he drop like 40 on lebron that year with like 70% shooting

:lol
Nah, he missed the playoffs and won 17 games with a similar supporting cast to current lebron

[LAmbruh]

Nah, he missed the playoffs and won 17 games with a similar supporting cast to current lebron
:lol

[kennethgriffen]

lol@ 20th year 1 legged kobe a**f*cking prime lebron


:roll:

[Dray n Klay]

lol@ 20th year 1 legged kobe a**f*cking prime lebron


:roll:

You're saying torn groin lebron is in his prime, but achilles sprain kobe was done? :lol :roll:

[coin24]

Has anyone ever been as mind fu*ked as simon is about Kobe :roll: :roll:
Talk about rent free

[LAmbruh]

Has anyone ever been as mind fu*ked as Simon

Yes, you by 5,000 imaginary users you've called Simon

[AlternativeAcc.]

Yes, you by 5,000 imaginary users you've called Simon
:roll:

[coin24]

Yes, you by 5,000 imaginary users you've called Simon


Jumping to your alts defense as usual:lol

Get help sociopath

[AussieSteve]

That's STILL not all-star level...come on man. He didn't even start on his team .Eddie Jones was solid, but also not an all star player even though he somehow made it to the all star in 98 as well. I always say the last half of the 90's is the weakest modern era time period.

Kobe played better in 99, yet DIDNT make the all star team...I wonder why (MJ was gone)

There was no AS game in 99 (lock out season).

[kennethgriffen]

There was no AS game in 99 (lock out season).


simon was born in 1997/98 or so... he wasnt watching the nba back then



have pitty on him

[Kblaze8855]

I was scrolling through here wondering how far id have to go before someone pointed out there was no 99 all star game. You all let like 15-16 posts go by...

[StrongLurk]

I was scrolling through here wondering how far id have to go before someone pointed out there was no 99 all star game. You all let like 15-16 posts go by...

Shhh...it's irrelevant to my OP. Which is Kobe was clearly not deserving o being an all star in 1998. Not one poster has provided a good argument for him making it.

[BigTicket]

The all-star game is a popularity contest, why don't people get that ?

Even if you think it's all about performance, 1998 wasn't Kobe's most undeserving year, that would be 2014.

[Kblaze8855]

Shhh...it's irrelevant to my OP. Which is Kobe was clearly not deserving o being an all star in 1998. Not one poster has provided a good argument for him making it.



Only one needs to be made.

The all star game was about being good in theory....but about fans wanting to see you in reality.

In 1992 the only game Magic Johnson played the whole season was the all star game.

[zeerghit]

he was young hyped as next "jordan", he was laker, he was dunk champ 1997 and voting was only by fans so is just pure hype, but overall its nothink wrong he made it

[Hey Yo]

lol@ 20th year 1 legged kobe a**f*cking prime lebron


:roll:
20th year Kobe???

His first 2 seasons don't count. He was just a role player coming off the bench.

3rd season was a lockout year and you've always said lockout years don't count.

2014 where he only played 6gms doesn't count

2015 only played 35gms so that doesn't count either.

So technically Kobe only played 15 seasons....

[E_Stamkos]

Because he finished 2nd in FAN voting for guards.

Why did Yao make it in his first year?

Dumb thread bro.

[Manny98]

i admit he didn't deserve that one...


but didn't he drop like 40 on lebron that year with like 70% shooting

:lol
Stop lying Kobe ain't ever drop 40 on LeBron :oldlol:

[zeerghit]

Because he finished 2nd in FAN voting for guards.

Why did Yao make it in his first year?

Dumb thread bro.
why do you think yao made it??maybe couse china has 1+bln population?

[Sakkreth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSe80qSgXVA
Voters just probably trolled or smt :D

[kennethgriffen]

20th year Kobe???

His first 2 seasons don't count. He was just a role player coming off the bench.

3rd season was a lockout year and you've always said lockout years don't count.

2014 where he only played 6gms doesn't count

2015 only played 35gms so that doesn't count either.

So technically Kobe only played 15 seasons....


so the guy who spent more time training/sprinting/shooting/running than any other player in nba history.

the guy who made deep playoff runs countless times

the guy who's played a combined 60,000+ minutes of basketball with regular season, playoffs and international combined plus another 500,000+ minutes of practice


technically only has 15 seasons on his legs


sure

:lol

['Toine=MVP]

He was a fan favorite.

Yeah. Simple.

[kennethgriffen]

Stop lying Kobe ain't ever drop 40 on LeBron :oldlol:



you're right. but he did outscore him by 50+ 1 on 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncMtXkL4Gu4

lebron 2 point hook shot shot 2-0
Kobe 3 point shot 2-3
Kobe 2 point running bank shot 2-5
Kobe 2 point up and under layup 2-7
Lebron 2 point layup 4-7
Kobe 2 point jumper 4-9
Kobe 2 point jumper 4-11
Kobe 2 point jumper 4-13
Kobe 3 point fall away shot 4-16
Kobe 2 point jumper 4-18
Kobe 3 point pull up 4-21
Kobe 2 point fall away bank shot 4-23
Kobe 3 point step back 4-26
Kobe 2 point fall away 4-28
Lebron 2 point fast break dunk 6-28
Lebron 2 point fade away 8-28
Kobe 2 point pull up shot 8-30
Lebron 2 point layup 10-30
Kobe 2 point running bank shot 10-32
Kobe 2 point jumper 10-34
Kobe 2 point jumper 10-36
Lebron 2 point jumper 12-36
Kobe 2 point layup 12-38
Lebron 2 point jumper 14-38
Kobe 2 point jumper 14-40
Lebron 2 point jumper 16-40
Kobe 2 point fall away shot 16-42
Kobe 3 point face up shot 16-45
Lebron 2 point fall away shot 19-45
Kobe 2 point high arching fade away 19-47
Kobe 2 point running leaner 19-49
Kobe 2 point dunk 19-51
Kobe 2 point rainbow fade away 19-53
Lebron 3 point step back 22-53
Kobe 2 point dunk 22-55
Kobe 3 point jumper 22-58
Lebron 2 point layup 24-58
Kobe 2 point fade away 24-60
Kobe 2 point layup 24-62
Kobe 2 point jumper 24-64
Kobe 2 point layup 24-66
Kobe 2 point fade away 24-68
Lebron 2 point layup 26-68
Kobe 2 point fake out layup 26-70
Lebron 2 point dunk 28-70
Kobe 2 point fade away 28-72
Kobe 3 point face up shot 28-75
Kobe 2 point fade away 28-77
Kobe 2 point pull up 28-79

[stalkerforlife]

There was no AS game in 99 (lock out season).

:roll:

Proof they were born after 99 .

Yikes.

[90sgoat]

Ok kids, I'll try to answer this seriously.

Back in 1996, the league was dominated by a bunch of old guys from the 80s: Jordan, Barkley, Malone, Hakeem etc.

There was a lack of young stars. You basically were limited to Shaq, Penny, Grant Hill and Jason Kidd.

The years before that had been weak, notably the 1995 rooks Stackhouse and Mighty Mouse.

At this time, everyone was definitely looking big time for the next MJ: JR Rider, Harold Miner, Stackhouse, everyone failed spectacularly.

Then out of the blue comes this Kobe and the hype is off the charts. I got my first jersey of Kobe 8, my mom bought it for Christmas for me.

So kids like to act like Kobe wasn't a star, but he was big time even as a rookie, before we had internet for real.

I understand how it might seem strange to today's box score obsessed nerds, but this was a different time, we used our eyes. We had Kobe do stuff like this as a rookie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awHCDkLwx8o

Dunks were difficult to come by in the 90s, so players back then made them count. Look at Kobe here being creative, having that 90s style of dunking which was style and power.

So Kobe was exciting and he showed glimpses of stardom already in his rookie season. This is like how some morons even today don't realize that they're watching a future top 10 in Luka Doncic. Their eyes betray them. Back then we all had better eyes.

[hiphopanonymous]

Ok kids, I'll try to answer this seriously.

Back in 1996, the league was dominated by a bunch of old guys from the 80s: Jordan, Barkley, Malone, Hakeem etc.

There was a lack of young stars. You basically were limited to Shaq, Penny, Grant Hill and Jason Kidd.

The years before that had been weak, notably the 1995 rooks Stackhouse and Mighty Mouse.

At this time, everyone was definitely looking big time for the next MJ: JR Rider, Harold Miner, Stackhouse, everyone failed spectacularly.

Then out of the blue comes this Kobe and the hype is off the charts. I got my first jersey of Kobe 8, my mom bought it for Christmas for me.

So kids like to act like Kobe wasn't a star, but he was big time even as a rookie, before we had internet for real.

I understand how it might seem strange to today's box score obsessed nerds, but this was a different time, we used our eyes. We had Kobe do stuff like this as a rookie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awHCDkLwx8o

Dunks were difficult to come by in the 90s, so players back then made them count. Look at Kobe here being creative, having that 90s style of dunking which was style and power.

So Kobe was exciting and he showed glimpses of stardom already in his rookie season. This is like how some morons even today don't realize that they're watching a future top 10 in Luka Doncic. Their eyes betray them. Back then we all had better eyes.
I remember Kobe on the show "All-That" as a rookie

Yeah, he was a star right away this is a good post. I'll also add that this was also in that time frame when it was fascinating to see how relatively well he did despite being so young - he's among the first of the straight from high school guys and one of few who were fitting right in straight from high school a-la KG and eventually of course LeBron