So we're just gonna ignore the fact that Michael Jordan was a poor 3pt shooter?

[keep-itreal]

and that in today's game if you can't shoot the 3 then you're a liability?

While Jordan is busy getting separation for his pull up 2's, Steph Curry and Lebron just walks up near the 3 point line and hit the 3 effortlessly.

[hiphopanonymous]

OP...

Do you honestly think Blake Griffin or Lonzo Ball for example - are better 3 point shooters than Michael Jordan when all conditions are equalized?

Different rules present different strategies and opportunities for scoring. This is the no contact era from the perimeter. The NBA has all but banned defense on perimeter players. If you couldn't touch MJ he'd shoot a hell of a lot better than how he shot when he was being raked shoved and pushed by the 1980's Pistons and 1990's Knicks. Do you agree with this?

[And1AllDay]

He was a good dunker no doubt, but he had no modern era range check out his last three years if yall dont believe me

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Putting up Giannis shooting numbers yikes even made a solid thread:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=458191&page=3

[superduper]

Seriously.. how fking stupid are you guys? Like for real? Do you have any idea how real life actually works?

In the era Jordan played with the three point shot was considered THE MOST INEFFICIENT SHOT IN THE ENTIRE GAME. As a collective era, they DID NOT PRACTICE THAT SHOT BACK THEN because it was literally considered an INEFFICIENT shot by the entire era. Coaches told their teams to NOT SHOOT the shot, only for last resort purposes.

Do you people actually understand what that means? It means that had Jordan or any of those players of the past played in THIS ERA, then they would be practicing the shot A WHOLE LOT MORE. Do you know what happens when people practice something? They get better at it. Do you know what happens when people don't practice something? They aren't good at it, speaking in relative terms.

You CAN NOT just transition Jordan's 3pt% back then and compare it to people now. That has literally got to be the dumbest form of stupidity if you actually think that's how life works.

In Jordan's era both teams COMBINED would literally shoot 2-6 threes max. BOTH TEAMS COMBINED. This era you literally both both teams combining for 60-100 3pters in a game.

Are you actually able to fathom what this means relative to reality? Because every single time this type of thread is made it is really alarming to think how many people out there lack basic understanding of reality. Then again everyone that makes this sort of thread can't be older than 16. If you are I am truly alarmed for your mental state.

1 *'d, morons.

[fsvr54]

He didn't need the 3pt shot to be the greatest scorer in nba history. If he actually practiced it, he'd be even GOAT-ER.

You guys look at things the wrong way so much of the time.

[Spurs m8]

Seriously.. how fking stupid are you guys? Like for real? Do you have any idea how real life actually works?

In the era Jordan played with the three point shot was considered THE MOST INEFFICIENT SHOT IN THE ENTIRE GAME. As a collective era, they DID NOT PRACTICE THAT SHOT BACK THEN because it was literally considered an INEFFICIENT shot by the entire era. Coaches told their teams to NOT SHOOT the shot, only for last resort purposes.

Do you people actually understand what that means? It means that had Jordan or any of those players of the past played in THIS ERA, then they would be practicing the shot A WHOLE LOT MORE. Do you know what happens when people practice something? They get better at it. Do you know what happens when people don't practice something? They aren't good at it, speaking in relative terms.

You CAN NOT just transition Jordan's 3pt% back then and compare it to people now. That has literally got to be the dumbest form of stupidity if you actually think that's how life works.

In Jordan's era both teams COMBINED would literally shoot 2-6 threes max. BOTH TEAMS COMBINED. This era you literally both both teams combining for 60-100 3pters in a game.

Are you actually able to fathom what this means relative to reality? Because every single time this type of thread is made it is really alarming to think how many people out there lack basic understanding of reality. Then again everyone that makes this sort of thread can't be older than 16. If you are I am truly alarmed for your mental state.

1 *'d, morons.

This forum is at an all time low.

Mods, ban me for life, i do not give a fvck, it'd improve my life hahaha

Bron stans, you are literally the dumbest of the dumb, i actually hope you talk this shit IRL so people can put a face to the sheer stupidity, problem is, none of you f@ggots leave the house and only spin this shit to mommy because you have no fvcking friends.

Jesus fvcking christ, the failure level is beyond anything i've ever seen on any forum....

EAT.MY.FVCKING.C0CK

Cheers

[superduper]

I honestly can't believe people's minds work this way. If you aren't young or trolling on purpose you have a lot bigger actual problems in life that you need to address and refine.

[Dray n Klay]

Agreed.. there's a reason 1-9 happened

[Duncan21formvp]

Never had issues hitting the 3 in the finals when the games mattered and were on the line.

[Spurs m8]

Agreed.. there's a reason 1-9 happened

Shut up f@ggot

[tontoz]

When the Bulls played the Blazers in the finals the media was making a big deal about Drexler being more of a 3 point threat than Jordan. Jordan then makes 5 (or was it 6?) three pointers in the first half of Game 1.

When scouts are judging college players for the draft they have found foul shooting has a greater correlation than 3 point percentage when trying to project NBA 3 point shooting.

Jordan was a career 83.5% shooter from the foul line. Methinks he could have been a much better three point shooter if he actually focused on it.

Larry Bird averaged only 1.9 three point attempts for his career, in 38 minutes per game, and he won the 3 point contest. It was a different era.

[Rico2016]

This forum is at an all time low.

Mods, ban me for life, i do not give a fvck, it'd improve my life hahaha

Bron stans, you are literally the dumbest of the dumb, i actually hope you talk this shit IRL so people can put a face to the sheer stupidity, problem is, none of you f@ggots leave the house and only spin this shit to mommy because you have no fvcking friends.

Jesus fvcking christ, the failure level is beyond anything i've ever seen on any forum....

EAT.MY.FVCKING.C0CK

Cheers

My brother ITS. N0T. THAT. SERI0US. In the end it's just basketball and one man's opinion.

[bullettooth]

Bron stans, you are literally the dumbest of the dumb, i actually hope you talk this shit IRL so people can put a face to the sheer stupidity, problem is, none of you f@ggots leave the house and only spin this shit to mommy because you have no fvcking friends.

Jesus fvcking christ, the failure level is beyond anything i've ever seen on any forum....




I honestly can't believe people's minds work this way. If you aren't young or trolling on purpose you have a lot bigger actual problems in life that you need to address and refine.

This is the result of years of dickriding an underwhelming fraud that's become a modern day finals loser like Jerry West.

[LAmbruh]

Poor MJ, the only time he could 'adjust' to being a mediocre 3pt shooter is when the line was moved closer like a womens tee in golf :oldlol:

[Keno]

practised or not, jordan simply wasn't a good 3 point shooter. he would be borderline elite in this era.

[superduper]

practised or not, jordan simply wasn't a good 3 point shooter. he would be borderline elite in this era.

How do you know this for a fact without seeing Jordan being born into this era with the difference in training/practicing for the strengths of this era?

I hope you answer me because I really want to challenge your logic here.

Do you realize you can't pick up the figurine of the player that Jordan was back then, put it down into this era and say "LOOK, he would be like THIS because that's how he was back THEN!!"

If you don't realize how retarded that sounds then you're hopeless.

[LAmbruh]

practised or not, jordan simply wasn't a good 3 point shooter. he would be borderline elite in this era.
yup


ugly looking 3pt mechanics too

[Psileas]

practised or not, jordan simply wasn't a good 3 point shooter. he would be borderline elite in this era.

"Borderline elite" is supposed to mean something negative or even neutral?

[superduper]

Everyone reading this thread knows who the morons are. Don't need to say anything more or do anything extra to have the truth stand out..

[egokiller]

That moment when the insecurity is so strong for not having watched GOAT MJ, that you come on ISH and start talking about how he would be at shooting 3's in today's NBA.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Another day
Another win

[fsvr54]

Jordan would average 30ppg in todays game on 65% shooting if he just took midrange jumpers and drove the ball.

[LAmbruh]

He was a good dunker no doubt, but he had no modern era range check out his last three years if yall dont believe me

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Putting up Giannis shooting numbers yikes even made a solid thread:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=458191&page=3
yup


no range whatsoever


got you bunny turnaround J's from 10 ft though, Defrozan'esque

[superduper]

Geez you guys are straight embarrassing yourselves.

Yikes.

[jstern]

OP...

Do you honestly think Blake Griffin or Lonzo Ball for example - are better 3 point shooters than Michael Jordan when all conditions are equalized?

Different rules present different strategies and opportunities for scoring. This is the no contact era from the perimeter. The NBA has all but banned defense on perimeter players. If you couldn't touch MJ he'd shoot a hell of a lot better than how he shot when he was being raked shoved and pushed by the 1980's Pistons and 1990's Knicks. Do you agree with this?

When I read the title of this thread I couldn't help but think how naive and stupid so many people are.

He takes like 50 three pointers in one season, all probably bailout three pointers, because the game was played so differently, and they think it's an actual indication of his capability as a three point shooter.

[diamenz]

not sure why u people bother replying to op. he's trolling. so the joke is on u.

[Akrazotile]

This forum is at an all time low.

Mods, ban me for life, i do not give a fvck, it'd improve my life hahaha

Bron stans, you are literally the dumbest of the dumb, i actually hope you talk this shit IRL so people can put a face to the sheer stupidity, problem is, none of you f@ggots leave the house and only spin this shit to mommy because you have no fvcking friends.

Jesus fvcking christ, the failure level is beyond anything i've ever seen on any forum....

EAT.MY.FVCKING.C0CK

Cheers


melted down to a puddle :roll: :roll: :roll:

[scuzzy]

ITT juicy meltdowns :lol

[And1AllDay]

ITT juicy meltdowns :lol

:oldlol: Facts hurt there feelings I guess. It is true he has a small impact so why be mad about it just accept it

[livinglegend]

not sure why u people bother replying to op. he's trolling. so the joke is on u.

No he is not. It s a fact that Jordan was a mediocre 3pt shooter.
Don't start with the if's.

[Tennis19]

i remember when he was in the 3pt contest. his 5 pts is still the lowest ever. having said that, if he played in this era he would work on this 3 ball and prob be around 34-36% range.

[And1AllDay]

i remember when he was in the 3pt contest. his 5 pts is still the lowest ever. having said that, if he played in this era he would work on this 3 ball and prob be around 34-36% range.

34-36? No way in heck man. Think Westbrook numbers.

[Tennis19]

34-36? No way in heck man. Think Westbrook numbers.


one thing about WB %.. he takes a lot of "hero" 3s. super contested or fading sideways. but yea he sucks at 3s.

i figured MJ career number is .327 so adjusting to the game i think he could go up a couple of %

[Akrazotile]

That moment when the insecurity is so strong for not having watched GOAT MJ, that you come on ISH and start talking about how he would be at shooting 3's in today's NBA.

:roll:

Another day
Another win


FIGHT ME

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[sportjames23]

and that in today's game if you can't shoot the 3 then you're a liability?

While Jordan is busy getting separation for his pull up 2's, Steph Curry and Lebron just walks up near the 3 point line and hit the 3 effortlessly.


Ask Clyde Drexler if MJ was a poor 3pt shooter.

[sportjames23]

Seriously.. how fking stupid are you guys? Like for real? Do you have any idea how real life actually works?

In the era Jordan played with the three point shot was considered THE MOST INEFFICIENT SHOT IN THE ENTIRE GAME. As a collective era, they DID NOT PRACTICE THAT SHOT BACK THEN because it was literally considered an INEFFICIENT shot by the entire era. Coaches told their teams to NOT SHOOT the shot, only for last resort purposes.

Do you people actually understand what that means? It means that had Jordan or any of those players of the past played in THIS ERA, then they would be practicing the shot A WHOLE LOT MORE. Do you know what happens when people practice something? They get better at it. Do you know what happens when people don't practice something? They aren't good at it, speaking in relative terms.

You CAN NOT just transition Jordan's 3pt% back then and compare it to people now. That has literally got to be the dumbest form of stupidity if you actually think that's how life works.

In Jordan's era both teams COMBINED would literally shoot 2-6 threes max. BOTH TEAMS COMBINED. This era you literally both both teams combining for 60-100 3pters in a game.

Are you actually able to fathom what this means relative to reality? Because every single time this type of thread is made it is really alarming to think how many people out there lack basic understanding of reality. Then again everyone that makes this sort of thread can't be older than 16. If you are I am truly alarmed for your mental state.

1 *'d, morons.

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

[Matppak]

[QUOTE=And1AllDay]He was a good dunker no doubt, but he had no modern era range check out his last three years if yall dont believe me

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Putting up Giannis shooting numbers yikes even made a solid thread:


You realize Jordan only took 55 and 53 shots the last 2 years of his career Giannis has take 97 this year and has worst stats. All you stat chasers cant even analyze stats correctly when Jordan took more than 200 3s in a year he is a 38% shooter thats 2 years with the regular line and 2 years with it shorter. They didn't move the line for Jordan they moved it when he was retired. Yall act like moving the line less than 2ft in was like it was at the ft line and you prove our point for us it wasn't that Jordan wasn't a capable 3pt shooter it's that his game was in the mid range from the post and at the rim so when you move the line in it's closer to his range. You guys act like 3pt shooters today can do everything but no alot of them cant make a mid range shot because they dont practice them..... Mj was a top 3 mid range shooter of all time top 5 at the least and a top 3 finisher around the rim can't say that about all your 3pt shooters today

[Lebron23]

He was a good dunker no doubt, but he had no modern era range check out his last three years if yall dont believe me

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Putting up Giannis shooting numbers yikes even made a solid thread:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=458191&page=3

Jordan had a terrible shooting from from the 3 points line. He has a weak pulse in Tagalog we called it mahina Ang pulso.

[Mr.GOAT2408]

He was a better 3p% than the Bronsexuals want to admit but anyone thinking he'd shoot 40%+ today is also out of their mind, if he was that good from long range he would have prioritized that from the beginning. We can do that hypothetical for guys like Bird and Maravich but not MJ, I think in his prime he'd be a 36-38% shooter in today's game.

At his peak with normal line and at least 1 3 attempted per game he shot 34% in RS and 36% in PS. I'm sure a good portion of those 3s were heaves/bailout shots and not the rhythm early in shot clock 3s that today's players like to jack up. That makes a huge difference especially at a low volume which was the case for Jordan

[Spurs m8]

Such a low iq thread lmao

[CountDracula]

https://i.ibb.co/Y2ckJBG/origin-gallery-uid-06-A8265-A-FCC3-4580-8724-9-D3-C07-FF0234-1623368570802-source-other.jpg (https://ibb.co/jhyMqkF)

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[000]

So is lebron

[Carbine]

Westbrook is a worse 3 pt shooter and drops 30 ppg in this era.

Considering Jordan was better at everything when it comes to offense, it's safe to say Jordan not shooting 3s at a high clip wouldn't really matter.

[Spurs m8]

Westbrook is a worse 3 pt shooter and drops 30 ppg in this era.

Considering Jordan was better at everything when it comes to offense, it's safe to say Jordan not shooting 3s at a high clip wouldn't really matter.

The thing is though, Jordan would have adapted to the modern game....and given he's elite at basically everything, as if he wouldn't have had at least a slightly above average 3pt shot...at the very least.

[000]

Michael shot 39% in the playoffs in his first threepeat, and literally set a three point record that only Ray Allen has broken by a hair

[Carbine]

I don't think he would have. Not to the extent some think. He said routinely over the years that he didn't like taking a lot of 3 pointers because he took away from his aggressive mentality.

He knew his game better than anyone. Which is being the GOAT mid range/finishing combo there has ever been. He wouldn't go away from that.

[Spurs m8]

I don't think he would have. Not to the extent some think. He said routinely over the years that he didn't like taking a lot of 3 pointers because he took away from his aggressive mentality.

He knew his game better than anyone. Which is being the GOAT mid range/finishing combo there has ever been. He wouldn't go away from that.

I disagree.

No way he wouldn't have done what was necessary to win and be right up there tbh

[Carbine]

He would have won his way. Your best player doesn't need to shoot a lot of 3s to win.

[Shooter]

He was a good dunker no doubt, but he had no modern era range check out his last three years if yall dont believe me

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Putting up Giannis shooting numbers yikes



Mike = Demar in 2010+

[Clifton]

I don't think he would have. Not to the extent some think. He said routinely over the years that he didn't like taking a lot of 3 pointers because he took away from his aggressive mentality.
Interesting.

The thing about Jordan was that he was always in control. An individual player relying on the three-ball isn't in control of anything. It's a smart strategy for a whole team to do, but for an individual scorer to be in control, he needs to be getting into the paint, using his body, measuring things from the high post, and patiently sticking midrange Js in people's faces. You see this with the truly dominant scorers: Kobe, TMac, Dirk, Durant.

The shine of guys like Curry and Harden is always a little dimmer in the playoffs than the regular season, and even more so in the fourth quarters of close games. Reliance on long jumpers will always mean a guy is more up-and-down.

As good as Doncic is, I really don't love the stepback 3s. Not from a guy like that who can get anywhere he wants on the court at any time. When they start missing, the team can't win.