What does 1-9 mean?

[Walk on Water]

I don

[Uncle Drew]

1-9

[Marchesk]

Bran stans invented it. Nobody was saying 1-9 back then. Nobody expected the Bulls to beat the Celtics or Bucks.

Jordan's not winning a championship only became an issue when the Pistons were beating out the Bulls. And of course that didn't last.

[superduper]

1-9 is PROOF that even Jordan's biggest haters think he's the undisputed GOAT.

[Walk on Water]

1-9


What is 1 for 9? Jordan never lost he

[Uncle Drew]

[QUOTE=Walk on Water]What is 1 for 9? Jordan never lost he

[superduper]

If this thread doesn't show the IQ of Bran stans I dunno what will

[Gus Hemmingway]

1-9
yup


1-9

[AirTupac]

Wait Jordan is 6-0 in the finals? Wow GOAT

[egokiller]

What does 1-9 mean?

It's lebron's finals record if Allen and Kryie don't make 2 of the 5 biggest shots in NBA history.

[TheCorporation]

There was a time long before Scottie Pippen played for the Chicago Bulls; this time is referred to as the "Pre Savior Pippen" era (or PSP for short) and during the PSP era it was a mighty dreadful time for Jordan considering Chicago Bulls very own Michael "Dad Killer" Jordan had an abysmal playoff record of 1 win and 9 losses, hence the 1-9 reference. He was able to swiftly accumulate three 1st round exits, showing that he is a true 1st round exiting king. Three years with no Pippen, three first round exits, and a 1-9 playoff record to show for.

Although, we could even label Jordan's feat (or lack thereof) as 1-10 since he has 1 win in 10 games. 1-9 does have a nice ring to it, but perhaps 1-10 is better suited to display his lack of success? How say you, OP?

[superduper]

It's lebron's finals record if Allen and Kryie don't make 2 of the 5 biggest shots in NBA history.

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[Walk on Water]

There was a time long before Scottie Pippen played for the Chicago Bulls; this time is referred to as the "Pre Savior Pippen" era (or PSP for short) and during the PSP era it was a mighty dreadful time for Jordan considering Chicago Bulls very own Michael "Dad Killer" Jordan had an abysmal playoff record of 1 win and 9 losses, hence the 1-9 reference. He was able to swiftly accumulate three 1st round exits, showing that he is a true 1st round exiting king. Three years with no Pippen, three first round exits, and a 1-9 playoff record to show for.

Although, we could even label Jordan's feat (or lack thereof) as 1-10 since he has 1 win in 10 games. 1-9 does have a nice ring to it, but perhaps 1-10 is better suited to display his lack of success? How say you, OP?


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[TheCorporation]

I’m confused. Is he not 6-0 in the Finals when it counts?

Are we talking about the Pre Savior Pippen era? Or after the Savior arrived? I just want to get things clear, I don't want any thing to get crossed since you seem confused already.

And you never answered my initial question. Should we label him as 1-10 now?

[3ball]

:rolleyes:

[3ball]

It's the idea is that pre-pippen MJ was losing in the 1st round while lebron never lost that soon and was going to the Finals - this would have merit if lebron didn't have a top 4 team/seed in the conference for all 13 playoff runs

So we don't know how lebron would do with a low-seeded cast against a league favorite, like if his 9-seed had been an 8 seed in 2005, and faced the champion pistons in the first round... But we can assume he'd get swept the same way with an 8 seed as he got swept with a 2 seed and 4 seed (07', 18'), and record loss with a 2 seed (14')..

obviously, if you get swept by the champs as a high seed, why wouldn't it happen as a low seed?.. it's a knock on lebron and 86' hakeem that they got swept with 2 seeds, and MJ only 8 seeds.

Ultimately, we can't compare Lebron's 1-4 seeds to Jordan's 8 seeds, but we know that jordan's 1-4 seeds greatly outperformed Lebron's.. MJ never lost as 1 or 2 seed (6/6), while lebron lost with a 1 or 2 seed six times (including various sweeps and record losses)

And people will say that MJ should've prevailed by simply achieving better teams/seeds like lebron did, but that negates any "competition" argument, since lebron should've prevailed in the Finals by achieving a better team beforehand as well. The objective is always to BE the better/favored team, not a worse team that must complain about "comp".. unfortunately, lebron's inability to field the best teams has caused people to change the goat criteria away from winning, into losing but appearing to face great odds.. it's a way to weaponize losing when your star can't get it done ("oh, but we were so outmatched", woah is me bs)..

[DJMcDonald]

It's lebron's finals record if Allen and Kryie don't make 2 of the 5 biggest shots in NBA history.
SHUT. IT. DOWN. :biggums:

[Walk on Water]

Are we talking about the Pre Savior Pippen era? Or after the Savior arrived? I just want to get things clear, I don't want any thing to get crossed since you seem confused already.

And you never answered my initial question. Should we label him as 1-10 now?


So are you saying Pippen is the best ever?

[superduper]

SHUT. IT. DOWN. :biggums:

when did you switch sides :oldlol:

[Uncle Drew]

yup


1-9
Agreed. Good point you raise there.

1-9.

[egokiller]

SHUT. IT. DOWN. :biggums:

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Another day
Another win

[fourkicks44]

[QUOTE=Walk on Water]I don

[egokiller]

It is your fgm-fga in NBA Jam if you shoot mid range jumpshots instead of going for dunks.

Not if you use the on fire cheat code.

B, B, B, B, B, B, B, then press and hold Up,Y,B.

['Toine=MVP]

It's lebron's finals record if Allen and Kryie don't make 2 of the 5 biggest shots in NBA history.

Yeah that's what I thought it meant.

[3ball]

Agreed. Good point you raise there.

1-9.
Lebron only had 4 seeds or better in the playoffs and MJ did much better with 4+ seeds - he never lost with the 1 or 2 seed (6/6), while lebron lost 6 times with the 1 or 2 seed, including record defeat and 2 sweeps

[Euroleague]

What is 1 for 9? Jordan never lost he’s 6-0.

WTF? The NBA playoffs does not consist of just the NBA Finals...
Jordan played 15 seasons, so he lost 9 times.

Is that really that hard to comprehend? I'm a Jordan fan, but this "he never lost" myth is totally absurd.

[And1AllDay]

There was a time long before Scottie Pippen played for the Chicago Bulls; this time is referred to as the "Pre Savior Pippen" era (or PSP for short) and during the PSP era it was a mighty dreadful time for Jordan considering Chicago Bulls very own Michael "Dad Killer" Jordan had an abysmal playoff record of 1 win and 9 losses, hence the 1-9 reference. He was able to swiftly accumulate three 1st round exits, showing that he is a true 1st round exiting king. Three years with no Pippen, three first round exits, and a 1-9 playoff record to show for.

Although, we could even label Jordan's feat (or lack thereof) as 1-10 since he has 1 win in 10 games. 1-9 does have a nice ring to it, but perhaps 1-10 is better suited to display his lack of success? How say you, OP?

:eek: :eek:

[SouBeachTalents]

WTF? The NBA playoffs does not consist of just the NBA Finals...
Jordan played 15 seasons, so he lost 9 times.

Is that really that hard to comprehend? I'm a Jordan fan, but this "he never lost" myth is totally absurd.
It really is some of the dumbest logic I've ever heard, it'd basically be like saying Dirk losing in '06 was worse than '07

[3ball]

It really is some of the dumbest logic I've ever heard, it'd basically be like saying Dirk losing in '06 was worse than '07
MJ went the furthest a player can go (winning the Finals) more frequently than anyone since the ABA merger (6 of 15, or 40.0%)

So he was eliminated early less frequently than anyone since the ABA merger (9 of 15, 60.0%)... Everyone else was eliminated early, more frequently

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[Rico2016]

Jordan's playoff record before he went on a tear, ripping off 6 Finals MVPs while eviscerating the league.

[egokiller]

WTF? The NBA playoffs does not consist of just the NBA Finals...
Jordan played 15 seasons, so he lost 9 times.

Is that really that hard to comprehend? I'm a Jordan fan, but this "he never lost" myth is totally absurd.

He never lost as the man when he had enough help to get him to the finals.

Why can't LeBron say the same instead of some beta shit like "well when I had enough help I lost as much as MJ won"

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Uncle Drew]

Lebron only had 4 seeds or better in the playoffs and MJ did much better with 4+ seeds - he never lost with the 1 or 2 seed (6/6), while lebron lost 6 times with the 1 or 2 seed, including record defeat and 2 sweeps
1-9.

[3ball]

It really is some of the dumbest logic I've ever heard, it'd basically be like saying Dirk losing in '06 was worse than '07
Lebron never had less than a 4 seed in the playoffs, but only won 3 rings in 13 seasons of high seeds

Whereas Jordan won 6 rings in 8 full seasons with 4+ seeds.. So imagine if MJ team-hopped his way to 5 more seasons of high seeds like lebron did.. :facepalm

He's just unlucky that he dealt with 8 seeds as a young player, rather than avoiding the long odds by being a 9 seed like Bron in 04/05.. but I guess it's better to miss the playoffs until ur a high seed? Is that the strategy?
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[FKAri]

[QUOTE=Walk on Water]What is 1 for 9? Jordan never lost he

[knicksman]

1-9 is proof that bron stans have low standards. They think first round record is as good as finals record. But we just laugh at them for being cheap.

[Duncan21formvp]

Thing that is funny is that Lebron even on championship teams and with 2 other stars went 2-8 in the finals vs Spurs in 2014 and Warriors in 2017. And this with 2 other stars on both his squads.:oldlol:

And the last two years has gone 1-8 vs Warriors.

[SouBeachTalents]

Thing that is funny is that Lebron even on championship teams and with 2 other stars went 2-8 in the finals vs Spurs in 2014 and Warriors in 2017. And this with 2 other stars on both his squads.:oldlol:

And the last two years has gone 1-8 vs Warriors.
Duncan lost in the first round to an 8 seed with 2 other stars on his side

[Duncan21formvp]

Duncan lost in the first round to an 8 seed with 2 other stars on his side
Duncan was the only star on the team.

[SouBeachTalents]

Duncan was the only star on the team.
Nope, Manu was an All-Star while Parker put up 17 & 7 on 52% a game. Hell, Manu & Parker both averaged 20 ppg in the playoffs while Duncan averaged under 13 against an 8 seed :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

Getting swept in the 1st round at age 24 = never lost

:yaohappy:

FOH. Go buy some shit sneakers phaggit

Yep, they finna turn a blind eye to his epic 1st round 1-9 sweepshows and watch some youtube dunk highlights and buy another pair of Jordans :oldlol:

[RRR3]

Nope, Manu was an All-Star while Parker put up 17 & 7 on 52% a game. Hell, Manu & Parker both averaged 20 ppg in the playoffs while Duncan averaged under 13 against an 8 seed :oldlol:
Destroyed :oldlol:

[RealSkipBayless]

It's lebron's finals record if Allen and Kryie don't make 2 of the 5 biggest shots in NBA history.
:djparty

:hammertime: :hammertime: :party:

[Walk on Water]

Getting swept in the 1st round at age 24 = never lost

:yaohappy:

FOH. Go buy some shit sneakers phaggit


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[SpaceJam]

MJ went the furthest a player can go (winning the Finals) more frequently than anyone since the ABA merger (6 of 15, or 40.0%)

So he was eliminated early less frequently than anyone since the ABA merger (9 of 15, 60.0%)... Everyone else was eliminated early, more frequently

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So you're basically saying the same thing, twice.....that 3ball dribble :roll:

[SpaceJam]

Bran stans invented it. Nobody was saying 1-9 back then. Nobody expected the Bulls to beat the Celtics or Bucks.

Jordan's not winning a championship only became an issue when the Pistons were beating out the Bulls. And of course that didn't last.

Nobody cared about finals records back than either, you think people gave a shit when they made Jerry West the logo in '71 with an 0-7 finals record? Ever since Bron starting winning rings all the Jordan stans felt threatened, cause that's all he started to need to enter the GOAT conversation. Y'all can't even deny it either cause you spend countless hours on a message board arguing it with randoms :roll: :roll:

[pauk]

[QUOTE=Walk on Water]What is 1 for 9? Jordan never lost he

[Real14]

It means absolutely nothing but 3/9 in the finals when you mostly the favorite to win definitely means something.