ESPN: Jordan's Bulls were always favored in the finals

[AirBonner]

https://twitter.com/espn/status/1001888280399532036?lang=en

[Gus Hemmingway]

tends to happen when your toughest Finals competitions second option is 36yo Jeff Hornacek

[SamuraiSWISH]

Because no one has doubts when somebody is actually the greatest of all time. No need for excuse making

[superduper]

Because winners are expected to win and losers are expected to lose.

Great groundbreaking analysis ESPN!!

[DJMcDonald]

Who was the favorite in 2011?

[Manny98]

Jordan has zero underdog rings so he's never beaten the odds

LeBron has 2 underdog rings LeGOAT wins again

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[3ball]

Because winners are expected to win and losers are expected to lose.

Great groundbreaking analysis ESPN!!
Exactly, the better team is supposed to be the favorite

the point is to be the better team that won more and is favored, not the team that lost more and complains about not being favored

Lebron gets knocked for not achieving the best teams his era, and therefore struggling to compete on the championship level, 3/9

[Uncle Drew]

Of course he was the favourite in every finals, have you seen his competition? The best team Jordan faced was worse than the worst team LeBron had to go against. :roll:

:oldlol: 90's basketball

[3ball]

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Jordan has zero underdog rings so he's never beaten the odds

LeBron has 2 underdog rings

LeGOAT wins again


Underdogs still win, just at a losing frequency... So Lebron's 3/9 matches his underdog odds.. nothing to brag about

the objective is to be the better team that won more and is favored, not the team that lost more and complains about not being favored... And then has a poor record to match their underdog/bad team odds

So Lebron gets knocked for not achieving the best teams his era, and therefore struggling to compete on the championship level, 3/9

[SamuraiSWISH]

But in actuality the Bulls were underdogs in the 91 finals due to inexperience, 93 finals, and 98 finals.

They also were the underdogs in the 93 eastern conference finals. You know because Jordan’s team is faced actual competition within their own conference before getting to the finals.

It didn’t matter, as favorites or underdogs Jordan always came through. The only time they were definitive favorites was in 1996 and 1997.

They were slight favorites in 1992, and even that one a lot of people thought the Blazers had an opportunity to beat them. The previous few years they had been 60+ win teams. With lots of talent. Athletic too.

And given their record in 1993 they were underdogs in the conference finals and definitely in the finals to a stacked Phoenix team.

After going seven games with the Pacers in 1998, where everybody on the Bulls was starting to look their age. Chicago was also the underdogs heading into Utah without home court advantage.

[bullettooth]

Jordan has zero underdog rings so he's never beaten the odds

LeBron has 2 underdog rings LeGOAT wins again

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And how many times has shit the bed when he's been expected to win?

You act like 2011 never happened. Your idols resume is riddled with asterisks and you conveniently ignore them.

Your a fraud, just like LeBron.

[3ball]

But in actuality the Bulls were underdogs in the 91 finals due to inexperience, 93 finals, and 98 finals.

They also were the underdogs in the 93 eastern conference finals. You know because Jordan’s team is faced actual competition within their own conference before getting to the finals.

It didn’t matter, as favorites or underdogs Jordan always came through. The only time they were definitive favorites was in 1996 and 1997.

They were slight favorites in 1992, and even that one a lot of people thought the Blazers had an opportunity to beat them. The previous few years they had been 60+ win teams. With lots of talent. Athletic too.

And given their record in 1993 they were underdogs in the conference finals and definitely in the finals to a stacked Phoenix team.

After going seven games with the Pacers in 1998, where everybody on the Bulls was starting to look their age. Chicago was also the underdogs heading into Utah without home court advantage.
^^^ That's all true, but doesn't even matter

It's meaningless that lebron won a couple Finals as the Vegas underdog - underdogs still win, just at a losing frequency... So lebron's 3/9 simply matches his underdog odds.. nothing to brag about

the objective is to be the better team that won more and is favored, not the team that lost more and complains about not being favored... And has a poor record to match their underdog/bad team odds

So Lebron gets knocked for not achieving the best teams his era, and therefore struggling to compete on the championship level, 3/9
.

[AussieSteve]

Of course he was the favourite in every finals, have you seen his competition? The best team Jordan faced was worse than the worst team LeBron had to go against. :roll:

:oldlol: 90's basketball

1993 Sun's were a great team with real star power. Better than 2011 Mavs, 2012 thunder and 2015 warriors. i think a lot of people expected them to win that year. I know I did.

KJ underperformed and Barkley was not quite 100% with injury on his shooting elbow, but it still took all the GOAT had to get over them. His 4th quarters were something else.



1996 Sonics were also very good.

[Da_Realist]

Sad. We are now celebrating victims, losers, underdogs and excuse-makers. The question ahould be: Why does no one ever believe in LeBron?

Btw, it isn't even true. The Bulls weren't favored in 91, 93 or 98.

[Uncle Drew]

1993 Sun's were a great team with real star power. Better than 2011 Mavs, 2012 thunder and 2015 warriors. i think a lot of people expected them to win that year. I know I did.

KJ underperformed and Barkley was not quite 100% with injury on his shooting elbow, but it still took all the GOAT had to get over them. His 4th quarters were something else.



1996 Sonics were also very good.
Worst team LeBron faced: 2012 Thunder, net rating of +4.6
Best team Jordan faced: 1992 Blazers, net rating of +2.9

Massive yikes.

[And1AllDay]

Jordan has zero underdog rings so he's never beaten the odds

LeBron has 2 underdog rings LeGOAT wins again

https://media.giphy.com/media/l3zoTAbMu27n6zrH2/giphy.gif

Epic

Congratulations. You played yaself

[Manny98]

Underdogs still win, just at a losing frequency... So Lebron's 3/9 matches his underdog odds.. nothing to brag about

the objective is to be the better team that won more and is favored, not the team that lost more and complains about not being favored... And then has a poor record to match their underdog/bad team odds

So Lebron gets knocked for not achieving the best teams his era, and therefore struggling to compete on the championship level, 3/9
Jordan was the underdog (86) but unfortunately he couldn't overcome the odds like LeBron did in 2016 :(

[Odinn]

Nothing new. ESPN pushing LeBron da goat agenda? They can GTFO.
Also 2? ROFL.

If LeBron had only 2 favorite teams, then so did Jordan. 1992 Blazers were the most talented and deep team in the league for instance.

[Da_Realist]

Nothing new. ESPN pushing LeBron da goat agenda? They can GTFO.
Also 2? ROFL.

If LeBron had only 2 favorite teams, then so did Jordan. 1992 Blazers were the most talented and deep team in the league for instance.

The media has been exhaustive in propping this dude up. Everyday on their front page, ESPN has some story on LeBron or his friends. Now it's cool to be a perpetual underdog and still claim to be the beat ever. It's cool to always be a victim instead of reigning as king (pun intended). It's now cool to lose as long as you have an excuse.

[FKAri]

Because no one has doubts when somebody is actually the greatest of all time. No need for excuse making
Thanks coach. :lol

[andgar923]

I could've sworn the Bulls were not only underdog in some Finals series, but even in some Conference ones by some.

I remember critics stating they were getting old, they were injured, Mj can't carry them etc.

[FKAri]

I could've sworn the Bulls were not only underdog in some Finals series, but even in some Conference ones by some.

I remember critics stating they were getting old, they were injured, Mj can't carry them etc.
Vegas knew David "I know where the bodies are buried" Stern wouldn't let that happen

[ballinhun8]

May 30, 2018 lmaooooooo


Today is January 21, 2019


How can someone who retired 15 years ago have this much rent control in y'all's heads. ROFL

[ballinhun8]

Of course he was the favourite in every finals, have you seen his competition? The best team Jordan faced was worse than the worst team LeBron had to go against. :roll:

:oldlol: 90's basketball


What happened to you bro?


Did the Simons hack your account?


You sounding like a real cuck for them right now.

[DJMcDonald]

Who was the favorite in 2011?

[FKAri]

Who was the favorite in 2011?
LeBron and the Cavs. This was LeGod's greatest sacrifice. Many don't even know the full details.

[LAmbruh]

Jordan stans damage control recipe:

1 point - alts
2 points - ad homs
3 points - Lebron, Lebron, Lebron



:yaohappy:

[SomeBlackDude]

so somehow being great takes away from your greatness now?

and losing over and over and over... and over again enhances your greatness?

leparticipation trophy era.

:facepalm

[LAmbruh]

3 points! BANGGGGGG :roll:

[SamuraiSWISH]

so somehow being great takes away from your greatness now?

and losing over and over and over... and over again enhances your greatness?

leparticipation trophy era.

:facepalm
:applause:

:oldlol:

[bigkingsfan]

No shit. We found that out when he retired and his competition all failed.

[Dray n Klay]

LeBron got better stats in the Finals than Jordan


That

[ballinhun8]

Jordan stans damage control recipe:

1 point - alts
2 points - ad homs
3 points - Lebron, Lebron, Lebron



:yaohappy:



Bringing up LeBron in a Jordan thread. Never fails

3 points!! Baaaaang

[TheImmortal]

Sad. We are now celebrating victims, losers, underdogs and excuse-makers. The question ahould be: Why does no one ever believe in LeBron?

Btw, it isn't even true. The Bulls weren't favored in 91, 93 or 98.
They don't believe in LeBron because he's a loser, beta mentality colluding choke artist extraordinaire.

[Duncan21formvp]

Lebron was the favorite vs Dwight Howard as well and lost.

[jstern]

Faulty logic. If you're the GOAT then chances are you're the favorite. Dumb childish agenda/mentality.

Having said that, I don't think the Bulls were favorite in every Finals. Specially in 98. And still Jordan overcame more odds where in a similar case Lebron would had quit. Like the flu game. Or Pippen hurt in 98.


Lebron was the favorite vs Dwight Howard as well and lost.

Another good point.

I don't think Jordan has ever lost as a favorite.

[Hittin_Shots]

3 points! BANGGGGGG :roll:

Just for a day post all your thoughts on one of your alts only. We all know them but maybe if you see how retarded it looks to us you'd stop..

[Elosha]

LeBron got better stats in the Finals than Jordan


That’s all that matters

First of all -- no he doesn't. Not unless you do dopey LeBron stan things like match up LeBron's best 6 stats in the Finals against Jordan's 6 and throwing out those where LeBron shit the bed.

Second, you do realize that "stats" tell only about half the story, right? LeBron literally gave up in many of his Finals games and got swept or lost in five games, in 4 out of 6 final losses. His man won Finals MVP four times. His defense throughout his 9 Finals appearances was generally porous, with notable exceptions such as 2016. A bunch of his "great stats" games came from running up empty points in games where Heat or Cavs were getting blown out, with Lebron stat padding meaningless, uncontested 10+ point fourth quarters when they are down by 15-25 points. Quite often, he was nowhere to be found when his team was getting crushed earlier in those games, when the games were getting put out of reach. It's not so hard to score big in the fourth when the other team's goal is primarily to let the clock run out. Rarely, if ever, will you see a Finals game where Jordan ran up empty stats like that.

As for leadership, the man gave up in OT of game 1 in 2018, just because JR Smith made an admittedly boneheaded mistake. But he sits there seething on the sidelines pouting about it rather than encouraging and inspiring his teammates. He refuses to take charge and plays a listless, defeated OT, wasting his own genuinely great game and taking away any chance for the Cavs to be competitive in the series. That's not the first time, the man gave up in at least three Finals, 2014, 2017 and 2018.

Other than "the block" in 2016, where's Lebron's iconic moments in the Finals? Where's Lebron's versions of Jordan's game tying shot in game 3 against 91 Lakers (hugely underrated shot), his flu gamewinner in 97, his other gamewinner in game 1 against Utah in 97, his huge steal, and gamewinner along with 45 points in 98? When has LeBron ever done anything in the Finals like that? Instead usually he's either getting blown out in the Finals or missing Finals gamewinners and playing tentative in close games.

As to LeBron's supposedly better competition, yes 2013-2014 Spurs and 2015, 2016 2017-2018 Golden State are great teams, (but not the 2007 Spurs or 2011 Mavs, and they still kicked Lebron's ass). Great or not, they usually didn't just beat LeBron's team, they usually eviscerated them. Most of LeBron's final losses aren't even close, they are blowouts, again with a lot of stat padding.

Despite their greatness, you throw those Spurs and Warriors back into the 90's where rugged defense is allowed, and I don't see either of them dethroning the Bulls on a regular basis. The Bulls defense in both of their threepeats was really a step above either the Spurs or Golden State and you can bet that Jordan, Pippen, Harper, Rodman, Grant, etc. would have relished grinding down those finesse offenses. And if you throw the Bulls into today's era and give them time to adjust, Jordan and also Pippen would simply murder the soft defense, hands free, easy driving lanes of today.

Look LeBron's definitely an all time great,probably top 5 of all time. His stats are overall tremendous, and he does have 3 Finals wins and three Finals MVPs. I respect what he's done, but I also take into account all that he hasn't done, and all that he's left on the table. When you make such stupid statements like "LeBron has better Finals stats than Jordan" you just validate what everyone says about dumb LeBron stans.

[Da_Realist]

First of all -- no he doesn't. Not unless you do dopey LeBron stan things like match up LeBron's best 6 stats in the Finals against Jordan's 6 and throwing out those where LeBron shit the bed.

Second, you do realize that "stats" tell only about half the story, right? LeBron literally gave up in many of his Finals games and got swept or lost in five games, in 4 out of 6 final losses. His man won Finals MVP four times. His defense throughout his 9 Finals appearances was generally porous, with notable exceptions such as 2016. A bunch of his "great stats" games came from running up empty points in games where Heat or Cavs were getting blown out, with Lebron stat padding meaningless, uncontested 10+ point fourth quarters when they are down by 15-25 points. Quite often, he was nowhere to be found when his team was getting crushed earlier in those games, when the games were getting put out of reach. It's not so hard to score big in the fourth when the other team's goal is primarily to let the clock run out. Rarely, if ever, will you see a Finals game where Jordan ran up empty stats like that.

As for leadership, the man gave up in OT of game 1 in 2018, just because JR Smith made an admittedly boneheaded mistake. But he sits there seething on the sidelines pouting about it rather than encouraging and inspiring his teammates. He refuses to take charge and plays a listless, defeated OT, wasting his own genuinely great game and taking away any chance for the Cavs to be competitive in the series. That's not the first time, the man gave up in at least three Finals, 2014, 2017 and 2018.

Other than "the block" in 2016, where's Lebron's iconic moments in the Finals? Where's Lebron's versions of Jordan's game tying shot in game 3 against 91 Lakers (hugely underrated shot), his flu gamewinner in 97, his other gamewinner in game 1 against Utah in 97, his huge steal, and gamewinner along with 45 points in 98? When has LeBron ever done anything in the Finals like that? Instead usually he's either getting blown out in the Finals or missing Finals gamewinners and playing tentative in close games.

As to LeBron's supposedly better competition, yes 2013-2014 Spurs and 2015, 2016 2017-2018 Golden State are great teams, (but not the 2007 Spurs or 2011 Mavs, and they still kicked Lebron's ass). Great or not, they usually didn't just beat LeBron's team, they usually eviscerated them. Most of LeBron's final losses aren't even close, they are blowouts, again with a lot of stat padding.

Despite their greatness, you throw those Spurs and Warriors back into the 90's where rugged defense is allowed, and I don't see either of them dethroning the Bulls on a regular basis. The Bulls defense in both of their threepeats was really a step above either the Spurs or Golden State and you can bet that Jordan, Pippen, Harper, Rodman, Grant, etc. would have relished grinding down those finesse offenses. And if you throw the Bulls into today's era and give them time to adjust, Jordan and also Pippen would simply murder the soft defense, hands free, easy driving lanes of today.

Look LeBron's definitely an all time great,probably top 5 of all time. His stats are overall tremendous, and he does have 3 Finals wins and three Finals MVPs. I respect what he's done, but I also take into account all that he hasn't done, and all that he's left on the table. When you make such stupid statements like "LeBron has better Finals stats than Jordan" you just validate what everyone says about dumb LeBron stans.

This deserves to be framed. I don't think LeBron is top 5 but other than that, perfect.

[OldSchoolBBall]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]But in actuality the Bulls were underdogs in the 91 finals due to inexperience, 93 finals, and 98 finals.

They also were the underdogs in the 93 eastern conference finals. You know because Jordan

[SpaceJam]

Exactly, the better team is supposed to be the favorite

3ball actually speaking facts for once! Stacked Bulls against weak competition

[34-24 Footwork]

In my opinion, I think LeBron stans have convoluted two different concepts.

How they feel about LeBron, emotionally

Vs

What they expect from him on the basketball court.


They love his dirty drawers, but what's more interesting is that they don't believe he'll ever win no matter how much talent he has.

Emotion vs practicality.

[Paul George 24]

Jordan has zero underdog rings so he's never beaten the odds

LeBron has 2 underdog rings LeGOAT wins again

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REMIND YOU JORDAN NEVER NEED IRVING CARRY HIM:oldlol:

[Gileraracer]

Because winners are expected to win and losers are expected to lose.

Great groundbreaking analysis ESPN!!

:lol :lol :lol


Absolutely THIS!!!!!!

[Paul George 24]

Jordan was the underdog (86) but unfortunately he couldn't overcome the odds like LeBron did in 2016 :(
BEACUSE IRIVNG CARRY LECHOKE TO WIN IN 2016:oldlol:

[FKAri]

This deserves to be framed. I don't think LeBron is top 5 but other than that, perfect.
lol

REMIND YOU JORDAN NEVER NEED IRVING CARRY HIM:oldlol:
David. Stern.

[ImKobe]

Lebron was favored to win in 2009 and 2010 ECF and in 2011 Finals, he lost 3 straight times as the favorite

what happened?

[Dray n Klay]

Lebron was favored to win in 2009 and 2010 ECF and in 2011 Finals, he lost 3 straight times as the favorite

what happened?

Kobe was favored to make the playoffs in 2005, 2013, 2014. But he didn

[superduper]

Lebron was favored to win in 2009 and 2010 ECF and in 2011 Finals, he lost 3 straight times as the favorite

what happened?

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/OoOoo.gif

[FKAri]

Lebron was favored to win in 2009 and 2010 ECF and in 2011 Finals, he lost 3 straight times as the favorite

what happened?
For the 135th time:

LeBron had a long talk with Stern in Vegas on April 2011 about how Miami winning it all would be bad for business. Bron agreed it would be best if Dallas won but he said he couldn't guarantee that Dallas would win even if he tried his best to throw the series. So Lebron picked up the phone and bought a 2% share in Liverpool F.C. and told Stern he would give it to him for losses incurred if Dallas failed to win. Despite Dirk choking, LeBron came up clutch for the NBA and Stern. Even though he has no use for the LFC share, he's kept it since.

[ImKobe]

Kobe was favored to make the playoffs in 2005, 2013, 2014. But he didn’t


Why?

He was injured all 3 of those seasons.


Lebron was fully healthy and on stacked rosters from 09-11, what happened? How do you lose 3 straight to Boston and Dallas after being up 2 - 1 in both series with HCA? How do you lose 3 straight to the Warriors after being up 2 - 1 and at home in 2015? How do you lose 3 straight to the Spurs in 2014 with the series tied 1-1 with 2 of the 3 losses at home? And by a record margin?

What happened?

[bullettooth]

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]Kobe was favored to make the playoffs in 2005, 2013, 2014. But he didn

[superduper]

Bran stans getting destroyed ITT

[3ball]

Maybe someone can help me out here because I want to understand the new espn goat criteria....

So the new criteria for goat is to.... NOT win the most?.... and be the underdog MORE?.. Is that it?.. so no more winning... Losing is better? Do I have it right?

:biggums:

.

[Spurs m8]

https://twitter.com/espn/status/1001888280399532036?lang=en

Of course they were, they had the greatest player ever by far, and the biggest winner ever on their team....GOATJ!!

Fvcking moron

[PickernRoller]

Why should I ever doubt about MJ's ability to get me a ring? :confusedshrug:

In contrast, anyone betting on Bran winning a ring better make a call to Silver first.... odds are out there plain to see.

[FKAri]

Of course they were, they had the greatest player ever by far, and the biggest winner ever on their team....GOATJ!!

Fvcking moron
How could a team with 0 all-stars push a team to the brink while the GOAT MJ at 24 years old got swept by that same team a round earlier? Michael Jordan is a bald headed fraud and a product of a marketing deal between David Stern and Nike.

[AirBonner]

Of course they were, they had the greatest player ever by far, and the biggest winner ever on their team....GOATJ!!

Fvcking moron
meltdown mate :roll:

[3ball]

How could a team with 0 all-stars push a team to the brink while the GOAT MJ at 24 years old got swept by that same team a round earlier? Michael Jordan is a bald headed fraud and a product of a marketing deal between David Stern and Nike.
How did the Cavs go 7 games with Lebron playing like he did the year before in the 07' Finals?

Lebron 07' Finals:. 22 on 36%.. swept
Lebron 08' lECSF:. 26 on 35%... 7 games.. :biggums:

Jordan 86' First Rd:. 44 on 50%.. swept

[FKAri]

How did the Cavs go 7 games with Lebron playing like he did the year before in the 07' Finals?

Lebron 07' Finals:. 22 on 36%.. swept
Lebron 08' lECSF:. 26 on 35%... 7 games.. :biggums:

Jordan 86' First Rd:. 44 on 50%.. swept
Those teams were a LOT tougher as we can see from the fact that they didn't get pushed to the brink by a team with ZERO all-stars.
Oh, and also, 24 > 22

checkmate babyboi :banana:

[Phoenix]

MJ was favored or considered at worst even money because the expectation was that he would always rise to the occasion in the finals once he had a few under his belt. He didn't have any 'mysterious' under-performances on his playoff record( I don't mean just stats, I mean effort and engagement) to question 'which' MJ would show up or anything like that. The Bulls were a well-oiled machine during their run.

There were plenty of 'even money' series. 92 against Portland. 93 against the Knicks and Suns. 96 against the Magic. 98 against Utah. All of those teams at worst had equal talent to, and in a couple cases better overall talent from 1-12. Nobody looks at the 96 Magic and thinks, oh the Bulls were the more talented team. Same with the Suns. 98 they were gassed and on the ropes, especially after Pip fukked his back. MJ had to go off for 45 to escape with a one point title-clinging victory.

[FKAri]

Those teams were a LOT tougher as we can see from the fact that they didn't get pushed to the brink by a team with ZERO all-stars.
Oh, and also, 24 > 22

checkmate babyboi :banana:
What's wrong? Word taking too long to load that 200MB file?

:dancin on yo grave

[Spurs m8]

How could a team with 0 all-stars push a team to the brink while the GOAT MJ at 24 years old got swept by that same team a round earlier? Michael Jordan is a bald headed fraud and a product of a marketing deal between David Stern and Nike.

How embarrassing for you tbh

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Go stan that loser you love and keep playing those mental gymnastics, fgt

[TheCorporation]

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]Kobe was favored to make the playoffs in 2005, 2013, 2014. But he didn

[TheCorporation]

Maybe someone can help me out here because I want to understand the new espn goat criteria....

So the new criteria for goat is to.... NOT win the most?.... and be the underdog MORE?.. Is that it?.. so no more winning... Losing is better? Do I have it right?

:biggums:

.

It's called COMPETITION.

So, when you face six cupcakes it means less than facing legitimate contenders. For example, beating a dynasty = more value than beating #2 option Hornacek or one man wrecking crew Drexler. Got it?

[madmax]

For the 135th time:

LeBron had a long talk with Stern in Vegas on April 2011 about how Miami winning it all would be bad for business. Bron agreed it would be best if Dallas won but he said he couldn't guarantee that Dallas would win even if he tried his best to throw the series. So Lebron picked up the phone and bought a 2% share in Liverpool F.C. and told Stern he would give it to him for losses incurred if Dallas failed to win. Despite Dirk choking, LeBron came up clutch for the NBA and Stern. Even though he has no use for the LFC share, he's kept it since.

:applause: :bowdown:

[guy]

so somehow being great takes away from your greatness now?

and losing over and over and over... and over again enhances your greatness?

leparticipation trophy era.

:facepalm

:oldlol:

[Duncan21formvp]

LeBron got swept in 2007 and 2018.
He lost by a record margin in 2014 and then beat his own record again in 2018.
He lost in 2011 putting up only 18ppg.
He lost in 2015 and 2017.

Why does LeBron lose so much?
And brought America it's first bronze medal as well in basketball with pro athletes.

[RRR3]

And brought America it's first bronze medal as well in basketball with pro athletes.
No that was the guy in your avatar.

LeBron barely played.