Wow these numbers can not be true can they?? Is this real or fake?

[And1AllDay]

I found these pictures on the interweb but are they real or fake? Is it really true that only one player ever has done this things???

https://i.postimg.cc/3JCVsRYx/Averaged-trip-dub.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/05J0MH4g/Most-30pt-games.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/FsybGkmD/Most-All-Time.jpg

Are these numbers true becos I keep hearing a certain player was better but I dont see his name as #1 on these lists only one player wow :eek:

[warriorfan]

Thanks for the autistic nonsense op

[And1AllDay]

Thanks for the autistic nonsense op

What? how is it autistic? I just asked a question will you answer pls?

Wow these numbers can not be true can they?? Is this real or fake?

[egokiller]

All negated by a 3/9 finals record. :roll:

[Rico2016]

I will google the results and get back to you to confirm if these achievements are real or not. Can anyone else confirm or deny these results in the meantime while I google this stuff?

[bullettooth]

All negated by a 3/9 finals record. :roll:

This.

https://s22.postimg.cc/fvrv3qypd/lebron-beatup-mj.gif

[And1AllDay]

I will google the results and get back to you to confirm if these achievements are real or not. Can anyone else confirm or deny these results in the meantime while I google this stuff?

Yes this is truly real numbers not made up either.

[coin24]

3/9:lol :lol

[Bawkish]

all these numbers and yet only 3/9 :lol

[kennethgriffen]

1 for 9 without bail outs

0 for 9 without lockout fake seasons

0 for 0 without leastern conference free passes on colluded teams

[Bawkish]

Bron also handed out 6 FMVPs over to his rival matchups

[Gileraracer]

Damn all those STATS and still 3/9 :(




Do i hear 'empty stats' chants? :mad:

[r0drig0lac]

All negated by a 3/9 finals record. :roll:
so empty stats? http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif















































































http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/images/smilies/lebron.jpg

[Manny98]

Only player to hang a triple double in the finals not Magic not Bird not even Jordan could pull off such a feat only the GOAT could do that :bowdown: :bowdown:

[FKAri]

Photoshopped. I can tell by the pixels and having seen quite a few shops in my time.

[Manny98]

Damn all those STATS and still 3/9 :(




Do i hear 'empty stats' chants? :mad:
At the end of the day no one has more 1st option rings than LeBron except for MJ (due to playing in a weak era)

No one except for Bill Russell and Kareem have won more conference championships than LeBron

No one in the modern era has won more MVPs than LeBron

No one has taken down more superteams than LeBron

No one has led both teams in all categories outside of LeBron

[ImKobe]

we need one for "Most Empty stats in Finals history"

how does the "GOAT" have a 10-year stretch like this in crunch time?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcMRksWW0AAwxhZ.jpg:large

pathetic

https://swishnba.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/bwucef_iyaaz9cx.jpg

[Manny98]

Still clutcher than Kobe in the playoffs

https://i.postimg.cc/XJGMZRcZ/Screenshot-20181212-225616.jpg

[ImKobe]

since we love reddit so much

Playoffs:

Lebron

He is 40/106 in clutch situation

His free throw shooting is 49/67

True Shooting is, 49.8%

Assist per 36: 4.2 assists

Turnovers per 36: 4.2 turnovers

Kobe

He is 40/96 in clutch situations.

His free throw shooting is 67/79

His true shooting is 58 %

Assists per 36: 4.3 assists

Turnovers per 36: 1.7 turnovers

Finals: Last 2 minutes, margin of 3.

Lebron

He is 4/23 in clutch situations

His free throw shooting is 10/14

His true shooting is 31%

Assists per 36: 3.7 assists

TO per 36: 3.7 TO

Kobe

He is 10/20 in clutch situations

His free throw shooting is 4/5

His true shooting is 56.4%

Assists per 36: 7.5 assists

TO per 36: 1.5 TO

Finals: Last 5 minutes, margin of 5.

Lebron

17/62 in clutch situations in the finals.

32% EFG

43% TS.

Assists per 36: 4.26

TO per 36: 3.1

Kobe

28/63 in clutch situations in the finals.

46% EFG

53% TS.

Assists per 36: 3.6

TO per 36: 1.08

It was over in 2017, nothing's changed since then

cherry-pick your Lebron averages, when half the teams he's beat didn't even win 50+ games in the Playoffs, enjoy the stat-padded numbers vs 40-win Pacers teams

http://i.imgur.com/GTrgFmP.jpg

:roll:

[Gileraracer]

At the end of the day no one has more 1st option rings than LeBron except for MJ (due to playing in a weak era)



I am not sure if it counts as a 1s option ring when you need to collude with at least 2 superstars to win them :(

[Manny98]

I am not sure if it counts as a 1s option ring when you need to collude with at least 2 superstars to win them :(
Bosh and Wade combined for a grand total of 0 playoff series win the 4 seasons prior to playing with LeBron

Kyrie and Love combined for a grand total of 0 playoff appearances before playing with LeBron

[SouBeachTalents]

Bosh and Wade combined for a grand total of 0 playoff series win the 4 seasons prior to playing with LeBron

Kyrie and Love combined for a grand total of 0 playoff appearances before playing with LeBron
You really expect anyone not to bring up Wade winning a title/FMVP :lol

[Gileraracer]

Bosh and Wade combined for a grand total of 0 playoff series win the 4 seasons prior to playing with LeBron

Kyrie and Love combined for a grand total of 0 playoff appearances before playing with LeBron

Yeah, they didn't play toghether prior to playing with Lebron.

[bullettooth]

At the end of the day no one has more 1st option rings than LeBron except for MJ (due to playing in a weak era)

No one except for Bill Russell and Kareem have won more conference championships than LeBron

No one in the modern era has won more MVPs than LeBron

No one has taken down more superteams than LeBron

No one has led both teams in all categories outside of LeBron

And he still put up 6 finals losses.

Bona fide loser.

[Manny98]

And he still put up 6 finals losses.

Bona fide loser.
And Jordan is a 3 time 1st round loser whilst LeBron is unbeaten

Where would Jordan be without Pippen and Phil :(

[And1AllDay]

I am not sure if it counts as a 1s option ring when you need to collude with at least 2 superstars to win them :(

What superstars bruh? Pippen and Rodman or Pippen and Grant :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

And Jordan is a 3 time 1st round loser whilst LeBron is unbeaten

Where would Jordan be without Pippen and Phil :(

OH we all damn well know he would be like Iverson but taller version or DeMar. They can't act for a minute that MJ is anything without Pippen and Jackson and Rodman and Kukoc and Kerr and Harper all on the same team just to take down Hornacek :roll: :roll:

[And1AllDay]

Bosh and Wade combined for a grand total of 0 playoff series win the 4 seasons prior to playing with LeBron

Kyrie and Love combined for a grand total of 0 playoff appearances before playing with LeBron

Exactly, this only helps the argument if anything

Wade was a superstar for 2011 (one year) when the Heat team was at its weakest. Then by 2012 and 2013 the team was better but Wade was not a superstar and Bosh fell off.

[Manny98]

Jordan's career record without Scottie Pippen is 182-228. That includes his Washington Wizard days.

During his tenure with the Bulls, his record was 108-138.

In 1987, 37/5.2/4.6 with 2.9 steals per game and 1.5 blocks on 56% TS. Incredible, right? Yeah, the team finished under .500, including getting swept by the Celtics. That was Jordan at 23, along with his 3rd consecutive playoff trip.

At 23, LeBron averaged 30/7.9/7.2 with 1.8 steals per game and 1.1 blocks on 56% TS. The difference? The team finished 45-37, and went to Game 7 with the Celtics. The previous year, LeBron dragged a disgusting Cavalier team to a 50-32 record and to the Finals. Jordan at 22? Swept once again.

Jordan's playoff record without Pippen? 2-9. (One in his rookie year, and one against Philly in 1990.

Not trying to argue anything, just showing some numbers.

[And1AllDay]

:roll:

Just imagine it, "not clutch" but having more game winners then Kobe and Jordan combined :roll: :roll:

https://i.postimg.cc/Jnd16J6V/Bron-gw-post.jpg

If Bron aint clutch then what does that say about Jordan who has less game winners on less effciency? :oldlol:

Checkmate bruh

[Gileraracer]

Exactly, this only helps the argument if anything

Wade was a superstar for 2011 (one year) when the Heat team was at its weakest. Then by 2012 and 2013 the team was better but Wade was not a superstar and Bosh fell off.

So Lebron had superstar help in 2011 and still couldn't get the job done? What happened? :(

[And1AllDay]

Jordan's career record without Scottie Pippen is 182-228. That includes his Washington Wizard days.

During his tenure with the Bulls, his record was 108-138.

In 1987, 37/5.2/4.6 with 2.9 steals per game and 1.5 blocks on 56% TS. Incredible, right? Yeah, the team finished under .500, including getting swept by the Celtics. That was Jordan at 23, along with his 3rd consecutive playoff trip.

At 23, LeBron averaged 30/7.9/7.2 with 1.8 steals per game and 1.1 blocks on 56% TS. The difference? The team finished 45-37, and went to Game 7 with the Celtics. The previous year, LeBron dragged a disgusting Cavalier team to a 50-32 record and to the Finals. Jordan at 22? Swept once again.

Jordan's playoff record without Pippen? 2-9. (One in his rookie year, and one against Philly in 1990.

Not trying to argue anything, just showing some numbers.

It appears that we have found the true empty stat padder: Michael Allen Iverson Jordan.

Sure he can score the ball but without Pippen he was a tall Iverson. Not a bad comparison, but lets be real he cant do it all like Bron. He can dunk, but thats about it

[And1AllDay]

So Lebron had superstar help in 2011 and still couldn't get the job done? What happened? :(

We been over this...Wade couldn't carry Bron in 2011 but Bron could carry Wade in 2012 and 2013. I know you prolly dont watch games becos your too busy YouTube Jordan dunks on Hornacek but watch some games. Bbbal must be new to you :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

Just imagine it, "not clutch" but having more game winners then Kobe and Jordan combined :roll: :roll:

https://i.postimg.cc/Jnd16J6V/Bron-gw-post.jpg

If Bron aint clutch then what does that say about Jordan who has less game winners on less effciency? :oldlol:

Checkmate bruh

Just to flex on em one more time

Next

[Manny98]

So Lebron had superstar help in 2011 and still couldn't get the job done? What happened? :(
Wade ball happened reduced LeBron into a sidekick role because he was too stubborn to hand the team to LeBron

We saw what happened the 2 years after when Wade finally let LeBron be the man

https://i.postimg.cc/rFjN1p9v/7s6H.gif

[Phoenix]

Wade ball happened reduced LeBron into a sidekick role because he was too stubborn to hand the team to LeBron

We saw what happened the 2 years after when Wade finally let LeBron be the man

https://i.postimg.cc/rFjN1p9v/7s6H.gif

Lebron reduced himself to sidekick role because everyone else needs to bend to his style of playing. The 2011 Heat were positioned to win the title and lost because Lebron fukked up. It's a good thing Wade was versatile enough to reinvent himself on the fly and play off Lebron, because we know Lebron wouldn't have( nor could he) as we saw against Dallas.

[And1AllDay]

Wade ball happened reduced LeBron into a sidekick role because he was too stubborn to hand the team to LeBron

We saw what happened the 2 years after when Wade finally let LeBron be the man

https://i.postimg.cc/rFjN1p9v/7s6H.gif

Very true, I try to tell people this.

2011: Look what happens when Wade tries to take over
2012: Look what happens when Bron tries to take over
2013: Look what happens when Bron tries to take over

[And1AllDay]

Lebron reduced himself to sidekick role because everyone else needs to bend to his style of playing. The 2011 Heat were positioned to win the title and lost because Lebron fukked up. It's a good thing Wade was versatile enough to reinvent himself on the fly and play off Lebron, because we know Lebron wouldn't have( nor could he) as we saw against Dallas.

If in 2011 Finals it was swapped and Wade gave Bron 18-7-7 on 48% FG with 1.7 spg and let Bron be the #1 option do you think they'd win?

Hint:


In 2013 Finals Wade gave Bron: 19-4-4 on 48% with 1.4 spg

[Phoenix]

If in 2011 Finals it was swapped and Wade gave Bron 18-7-7 on 48% FG with 1.7 spg and let Bron be the #1 option do you think they'd win?

Hint:


In 2013 Finals Wade gave Bron: 19-4-4 on 48% with 1.4 spg

Problem is you simply boil it down to stats( like the typical Bron retard). Bron was visibly disengaged halfway through the 2011 finals, to the point where he wasn't even one of the 3 best players in that series. Wade was better, Dirk was better and relative to who they were as players, Jason fukking Terry even rose more to the occasion.

Furthermore, the Heat were much deeper teams in 2012 and 2013, able to withstand Wade taking on a lesser role while transitioning the team to Lebron. The 2011 Heat were thin past Wade/Bron/Bosh and needed all of them to perform as advertised to make up for that. Despite their lack of depth, they were positioned to win in 2011. So don't bore me with the mental gymnastics about shit you clearly don't comprehend beyond 'check the stats'.

[Manny98]

Lebron reduced himself to sidekick role because everyone else needs to bend to his style of playing. The 2011 Heat were positioned to win the title and lost because Lebron fukked up. It's a good thing Wade was versatile enough to reinvent himself on the fly and play off Lebron, because we know Lebron wouldn't have( nor could he) as we saw against Dallas.
No because even in the regular season that year Wade had a higher usage rate than LeBron and attempted more shots

Once Wade realized that he is the beta and LeBron is the alpha they won 2 straight

[Phoenix]

No because even in the regular season that year Wade had a higher usage rate than LeBron and attempted more shots

Once Wade realized that he is the beta and LeBron is the alpha they won 2 straight

Irrelevant. Check the playoffs for the 2011 run. Both Bron and Wade played to standard up to the ECFs. Wade was the best player against the Celtics( the team that Bron got his shit pushed in by the prior year). Lebron was the best player against Chicago, Wade underperformed and Bosh picked up the slack. Up 2-1 against Dallas and then Lebron goes on to give possibly the worst performance by an all time great in his prime ever, 8 points in a game where Wade scores 32, Bosh 24 and they lose by 3. Guess why they lost?

[3ball]

.
Best winning stats ever


33.7 ppg and 6.6 apg in 91-93' PO (27.2 and 7.2 for lebron in 12/13/16' PO)

36/7/8 in 91-93' Finals (28/10/7 for lebron in 12/13/16 Finals)


Best losing stats ever


44 ppg against champion 86' celtics and their #1 defense


/thread
.

[Dray n Klay]

.
Best winning stats ever


33.7 ppg and 6.6 apg in 91-93' PO (27.2 and 7.2 for lebron in 12/13/16' PO)


Best losing stats ever


44 ppg against champion 86' celtics and their #1 defense


/thread


3ball. Answer these 3 questions



1) Why did 1-9 happen with Jordan having 0 all-star teammates?


2) Why did LeBron win a championship in 2016 with 0 all star teammates?


3) Why did Jordan lose with an all-star in 1990 and 1995?

[And1AllDay]

Problem is you simply boil it down to stats( like the typical Bron retard). Bron was visibly disengaged halfway through the 2011 finals, to the point where he wasn't even one of the 3 best players in that series. Wade was better, Dirk was better and relative to who they were as players, Jason fukking Terry even rose more to the occasion.

Furthermore, the Heat were much deeper teams in 2012 and 2013, able to withstand Wade taking on a lesser role while transitioning the team to Lebron. The 2011 Heat were thin past Wade/Bron/Bosh and needed all of them to perform as advertised to make up for that. Despite their lack of depth, they were positioned to win in 2011. So don't bore me with the mental gymnastics about shit you clearly don't comprehend beyond 'check the stats'.

WRONG. And I'll take it a step further to drown your hating ass

In 2011 Bosh put up monster numbers
19-7

If Bosh ever gave Bron 19-7 do you think he'd lose a Finals like Wade did?

To wrap this all up and to wrap YOU up

In 2011 Bosh put up
19-7 and they lost under Wade ball

In 2012 Bosh put up
14-9 wow and they won

In 2013 Bosh put up
12-9 wow and they won

[And1AllDay]

.
Best winning stats ever


33.7 ppg and 6.6 apg in 91-93' PO (27.2 and 7.2 for lebron in 12/13/16' PO)

36/7/8 in 91-93' Finals (28/10/7 for lebron in 12/13/16 Finals)


Best losing stats ever


44 ppg against champion 86' celtics and their #1 defense


/thread
.

False becos LBJ obviously has best winnign stats. Welcome to basketball past 98 lol google 2016 Finals.

And also false becos LBJ also had best losing stats ever

39-8-8 on 49% versus #1 rated Defense DPOY Howard and Magic

Magic had a better DefRtg then the Celtics that year. Sorry bruh you lose again

[3ball]

3ball. Answer these 3 questions



1) Why did 1-9 happen with Jordan having 0 all-star teammates?


2) Why did LeBron win a championship in 2016 with 0 all star teammates?


3) Why did Jordan lose with an all-star in 1990 and 1995?
1) mj had no all-star teammates like lebron had in 05', so his team was the 8 seed facing the 1 seed, while lebron's all-star tandem were 1-4 seeds and had easier matchups

2) lebron had zero all-stars but 2 HOF teammates, while MJ won in 91' with zero all-stars and 1 HOF teammate..

3) MJ lost less with all-star help (only twice in 15 seasons), while lebron lost 7 in 15 seasons with all-stars (05, 09, 11, 14, 15, 17, and 18)
.

[Phoenix]

WRONG. And I'll take it a step further to drown your hating ass

In 2011 Bosh put up monster numbers
19-7

If Bosh ever gave Bron 19-7 do you think he'd lose a Finals like Wade did?

To wrap this all up and to wrap YOU up

In 2011 Bosh put up
19-7 and they lost under Wade ball

In 2012 Bosh put up
14-9 wow and they won

In 2013 Bosh put up
12-9 wow and they won

So how did they manage to 'Wade-ball' themselves to the finals only for it to suddenly falter 2 wins from a title? There was no Wade-ball firstly, you inbreed. Wade and Lebron spent that season basically switching between 1a and 1b roles, not ideal but when you have 2 of the top 3 players in the league at that given moment and a top 20 player in Bosh, you can out-talent your way through. Which is basically what they did....up to the finals when Lebron didn't pull his weight. The Heat rose to champions because Wade, not Lebron, had the ability to transition to a different role which coincided with Lebron's peak as an overall player. If not, that could have ended up the most specularly failed experiment in recent history.

So, you can try and deflect from the reality of what happened till your little hearts content. FACTS are, the Heat were positioned to win the title in 2011 despite their roster flaws and came up short at the finish because Bron shrunk from the moment. Basically, the final year of what was Wade's peak got squandered because Lebron mentally hadn't figured it out yet. I'll remind you that Lebron joined Wade, not the other way around. It wasn't Wade who needed to learn what it took, mentality, to close the deal. The Heat, again, after 2011 were better OUTSIDE of Wade and Bosh roster-wise so they were able to withstand Wade's slow decline( he was still elite in 2012 and 2013 until he got injured) and still win and, if not for a Ray Allen miracle shot in game 6, they quite easily could have gone 1/4 during that run.

[Da_Realist]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13566076&postcount=38

[3ball]

False becos LBJ obviously has best winnign stats. Welcome to basketball past 98 lol google 2016 Finals.


MJ's winning stats were better


Jordan 1991-1993 Playoffs:. 34/7/7
Lebron 12/13/16.. Playoffs:. 27/9/7

Jordan 1991-1993 Finals:. 36/7/8
Lebron 12/13/16.. Finals:. 28/10/7


:confusedshrug:

On a single-series basis, we can debate mj's Finals record in 1993 versus lebron's 2016 until the cows come home (11 more ppg for mj)





39-8-8 on 49% are better losing stats than mj vs 86' celts

Magic had a better DefRtg then the Celtics that year.


Jordan's 44/6/6 is >>>

both teams had the league's #1 defense, but the Celtics were a top 5 team all-time, while the Magic weren't even top 100, literally

Secondly, it's a well-documented that Mike Brown put Lebron on scrub Courtney Lee to save energy so he would be fresh on offense

Finally, the Orlando series was a shootout - no defense was played, as both teams scored materially above their regular season ORtg's... Otoh, the Celtics were playing good D by holding the bulls below their normal ORtg.

Oh, one more thing - lebron hurt his team in the clutch by shooting just 68% from the line in the 4th (https://stats.nba.com/player/2544/traditional/?Season=2008-09&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=3), whereas MJ was pure icewater (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QB0ZS8HWw5A&t=08m47s)

No comparison - mj's 44 ppg was a record, and therefore goat
.

[TheCorporation]

MJ's winning stats were better


Jordan 1991-1993 Playoffs:. 34/7/7
Lebron 12/13/16.. Playoffs:. 27/9/7

Jordan 1991-1993 Finals:. 36/7/8
Lebron 12/13/16.. Finals:. 28/10/7


:confusedshrug:



Jordan's 44/6/6 is >>>

The Celtics were a top 5 team all-time, while the Magic weren't even top 100, literally

Secondly, it's a well-documented that Mike Brown put Lebron on scrub Courtney Lee to save energy so he would be fresh on offense

Finally, the Orlando series was a shootout - no defense was played, as both teams scored materially above their regular season ORtg's... Otoh, the Celtics were playing good D by holding the bulls below their normal ORtg.

Oh, one more thing - lebron hurt his team in the clutch by shooting just 68% from the line in the 4th (https://stats.nba.com/player/2544/traditional/?Season=2008-09&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=3), whereas MJ was pure icewater (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QB0ZS8HWw5A&t=08m47s)

No comparison

You are trying REALLY hard to convince the masses by using biased and opinionated information. It's really sad to see, so let me help you out for a moment so as to clarify your biased cluster funk of a post

-2009 Magic had a BETTER DRtg than 1986 Celtics (Fact)
-39-8-8 vs 44-6-6 is debatable but which team was a better defensive team is not
-You went from comparing a single run (86 MJ to 09 LBJ) to comparing a three year stint (12/13/16 LBJ to 91/2/93 MJ) which also makes no sense.
-Start making sense, for the love of god

These are just for starters. Get a grip and focus up.

[Da_Realist]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13566076&postcount=38

^^ LeBron fans???

[3ball]

You are trying REALLY hard to convince the masses by using biased and opinionated information. It's really sad to see, so let me help you out for a moment so as to clarify your biased cluster funk of a post

-2009 Magic had a BETTER DRtg than 1986 Celtics (Fact)


Why are you arguing about who's #1 defense was better, when the celtics were a goat, warriors-level team while the magic were a nobody team??? :biggums:

Jordan's 44 against a goat team > lebron's 38 against the nobody magic.. period... :kobe:





-You went from comparing a single run (86 MJ to 09 LBJ) to comparing a three year stint (12/13/16 LBJ to 91/2/93 MJ) which also makes no sense.


Who cares about losing playoff run stats - a lot of guys are in the running for that

But if you want to look at it, then mj's 1990 run of 37/7/7 compares with anything lebron did, like his 34/9/9 in 2018




And you had nothing to refute:

winning stats


Jordan 1991-1993 Playoffs:. 34/7/7
Lebron 12/13/16.. Playoffs:. 27/9/7

Jordan 1991-1993 Finals:. 36/7/8
Lebron 12/13/16.. Finals:. 28/10/7


:confusedshrug:
.

[Overdrive]

I found these pictures on the interweb but are they real or fake? Is it really true that only one player ever has done this things???

https://i.postimg.cc/3JCVsRYx/Averaged-trip-dub.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/05J0MH4g/Most-30pt-games.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/FsybGkmD/Most-All-Time.jpg

Are these numbers true becos I keep hearing a certain player was better but I dont see his name as #1 on these lists only one player wow :eek:

1-Lost that finals

2&3-Played more games

Lebron is the Karl Malone of the 2000s and 2010s. He just colluded so he wouldn't end up ringless.

[ImKobe]

Just imagine it, "not clutch" but having more game winners then Kobe and Jordan combined :roll: :roll:

https://i.postimg.cc/Jnd16J6V/Bron-gw-post.jpg

If Bron aint clutch then what does that say about Jordan who has less game winners on less effciency? :oldlol:

Checkmate bruh

Lebron has ZERO game-winners/game-tying shots made in 9 NBA Finals, Jordan has at least three. We don't care about 1st round game-winners vs the ****ing 40-win Pacers.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbrziTVWAAIP7aY.jpg

gtfo with this fake stat.

[FKAri]

How could a team with 0 all-stars push a team to the brink while the GOAT at 24 years old got swept by that same team a round earlier? Michael Jordan is a fraud and a product of a marketing deal between David Stern and Nike.

[SwayDizzle]

Why so much hate for LJ? Dude isn

[Manny98]

[QUOTE=SwayDizzle]Why so much hate for LJ? Dude isn

[3ball]

How could a team with 0 all-stars push a team to the brink while the GOAT at 24 years old got swept by that same team a round earlier?

.
The 08' Cavs had a better cast than the 86' bulls, since they went 7 games despite woat performance from Lebron, while the bulls were swept despite goat performance from mj

Lebron 26 on 35% = 7 games with Celts
Jordan 44 on 50% = swept by Celts

So the Cavs cast was WAY better.. they were a 45-win, 4 seed and defending conference champs, while mj's bulls were the 30-win, 8 seed and lottery team.. those bulls compared more to lebron's 9 seed in 05', not the 4 seed from 08'.
.

[yeaaaman]

It's interesting that people (some) want to hold it against MJ that he was the best and that his teams were favoured to win....largely because of him, but apparenlty Lebron James, a GOAT candidate and a prime D-Wade and Prime Chris Bosh were underdogs against an OKC team led by a bunch of 21-23 year olds? How can that be true? What does that say about Lebron?

So now, the bar is for Jordan is that he should have to won championships out of the gate with the team he had, despite not jumping around to join up with other players of his choice... as if winning isn't the ultimate goal, which he's done at an incredibly high rate for his career.

So regardless of 1-9 and whatever context you want to throw in there for your own personal spin, he still later went 6-6 in the finals with 2, yes TWO Three-peats in the modern age. Even this OKC Warriors group isn't touching that, but they were the best team ever assembled and Lebron was able to slay them... when the didn't have Durant and Cousins...but they were still the best team ever, so the last 2 Warriors teams with FMVP Durant were worse than the Warriors Lebron beat without KD...

Oh yea, throw in Lebron having one more 30pt playoff game than MJ even though he's played 239 playoff games to MJ's 179 - oh yea, and Lebron did it all with ZERO help.

I can't keep up.

[bullettooth]

And Jordan is a 3 time 1st round loser whilst LeBron is unbeaten

Where would Jordan be without Pippen and Phil :(

6 finals losses.

Your homosexual fantasy is a loser.

[Da_Realist]

It's interesting that people (some) want to hold it against MJ that he was the best and that his teams were favoured to win....largely because of him, but apparenlty Lebron James, a GOAT candidate and a prime D-Wade and Prime Chris Bosh were underdogs against an OKC team led by a bunch of 21-23 year olds? How can that be true? What does that say about Lebron?

So now, the bar is for Jordan is that he should have to won championships out of the gate with the team he had, despite not jumping around to join up with other players of his choice... as if winning isn't the ultimate goal, which he's done at an incredibly high rate for his career.

So regardless of 1-9 and whatever context you want to throw in there for your own personal spin, he still later went 6-6 in the finals with 2, yes TWO Three-peats in the modern age. Even this OKC Warriors group isn't touching that, but they were the best team ever assembled and Lebron was able to slay them... when the didn't have Durant and Cousins...but they were still the best team ever, so the last 2 Warriors teams with FMVP Durant were worse than the Warriors Lebron beat without KD...

Oh yea, throw in Lebron having one more 30pt playoff game than MJ even though he's played 239 playoff games to MJ's 179 - oh yea, and Lebron did it all with ZERO help.

I can't keep up.

Great job :applause:

[Hey Yo]

It's interesting that people (some) want to hold it against MJ that he was the best and that his teams were favoured to win....largely because of him, but apparenlty Lebron James, a GOAT candidate and a prime D-Wade and Prime Chris Bosh were underdogs against an OKC team led by a bunch of 21-23 year olds? How can that be true? What does that say about Lebron?

So now, the bar is for Jordan is that he should have to won championships out of the gate with the team he had, despite not jumping around to join up with other players of his choice... as if winning isn't the ultimate goal, which he's done at an incredibly high rate for his career.

So regardless of 1-9 and whatever context you want to throw in there for your own personal spin, he still later went 6-6 in the finals with 2, yes TWO Three-peats in the modern age. Even this OKC Warriors group isn't touching that, but they were the best team ever assembled and Lebron was able to slay them... when the didn't have Durant and Cousins...but they were still the best team ever, so the last 2 Warriors teams with FMVP Durant were worse than the Warriors Lebron beat without KD...

Oh yea, throw in Lebron having one more 30pt playoff game than MJ even though he's played 239 playoff games to MJ's 179 - oh yea, and Lebron did it all with ZERO help.

I can't keep up.
It's true because maybe Vegas saw how OKC and their 3 All-NBA players that included the NBA blocks leader (and runner-up for DPOY) plus add in the 6MOTY just steamrolled the West to get to the Finals.

Now you don't have an excuse for not keeping up.

[bullettooth]

It's interesting that people (some) want to hold it against MJ that he was the best and that his teams were favoured to win....largely because of him, but apparenlty Lebron James, a GOAT candidate and a prime D-Wade and Prime Chris Bosh were underdogs against an OKC team led by a bunch of 21-23 year olds? How can that be true? What does that say about Lebron?

So now, the bar is for Jordan is that he should have to won championships out of the gate with the team he had, despite not jumping around to join up with other players of his choice... as if winning isn't the ultimate goal, which he's done at an incredibly high rate for his career.

So regardless of 1-9 and whatever context you want to throw in there for your own personal spin, he still later went 6-6 in the finals with 2, yes TWO Three-peats in the modern age. Even this OKC Warriors group isn't touching that, but they were the best team ever assembled and Lebron was able to slay them... when the didn't have Durant and Cousins...but they were still the best team ever, so the last 2 Warriors teams with FMVP Durant were worse than the Warriors Lebron beat without KD...

Oh yea, throw in Lebron having one more 30pt playoff game than MJ even though he's played 239 playoff games to MJ's 179 - oh yea, and Lebron did it all with ZERO help.

I can't keep up.

You have to question why their logic is so flawed.

They're either stupid or for some reason propping up LeBron. Which is it? And if it's the latter, WHY?

[knicksman]

Lebron has ZERO game-winners/game-tying shots made in 9 NBA Finals, Jordan has at least three. We don't care about 1st round game-winners vs the ****ing 40-win Pacers.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbrziTVWAAIP7aY.jpg

gtfo with this fake stat.

anyone with a brain knows his gamewinners were manufactured by refs. They would never dare lebron shoot a go-ahead/game tying. Most of the gamewinners he had were tie games. But they now have the stats for clutch unlike the seasons before. This league. LOL

[knicksman]

LeBron wouldn't have so many haters if he wasn't top 5 :oldlol:


frauds will have the most haters coz we want to enlighten his gullibile fans.:confusedshrug:

[yeaaaman]

It's true because maybe Vegas saw how OKC and their 3 All-NBA players that included the NBA blocks leader (and runner-up for DPOY) plus add in the 6MOTY just steamrolled the West to get to the Finals.

Now you don't have an excuse for not keeping up.

So it was basically a miracle that the Heat were able to upset the Thunder led by guys who had never been there?

I'll ask this - would Jordan be an underdog against that same Thunder team?

When the Heatles got together, there were people saying they would beat the Bulls all-time record. Jeff Van Gundy was on air saying they would beat the record out of the gate, that it wouldn't be fair for the league.

So were expectations high for them? Yes they were, but they should be - they assembled a team with what maybe 2 of the top 4 players in the league and arguably the best PF or a fringe top 12 player maybe? What does that say about Lebron (or Wade and Bosh) that they couldn't meet them? That they lost to an inferior Dallas team the year before, and that they were underdogs the next year against a bunch of guys that never made it before who were still pups in the league?

Listen for me Lebron is an all-time great. He just isn't the all-time greatest.

[Da_Realist]

LeBron picks a new team every 3-4 years. He wants the best team every year or he will sulk or threaten to leave until the front office makes it happen. He doesn't have a competitive bone in his body.

When he loses, he has a ready made excuse because he would have spent the whole series stat padding to protect himself.

Then real fans have to hear about his gargantuan numbers and his march toward GOATness

:vomiting emoji:

[yeaaaman]

LeBron picks a new team every 3-4 years. He wants the best team every year or he will sulk or threaten to leave until the front office makes it happen. He doesn't have a competitive bone in his body.

When he loses, he has a ready made excuse because he would have spent the whole series stat padding to protect himself.

Then real fans have to hear about his gargantuan numbers and his march toward GOATness

:vomiting emoji:

I know it's a new era with how teams are constructed but I find it funny that I have to turn on the TV everyday and listen to why Lebron deserves to have all the best players. It's almost like all the stars should want to go join Lebron to help him and his legacy, that the Pelicans should just take whatever the Lakers have to offer just so they can help Lebron. It's kind of bizarre.

[TheCorporation]

LeBron wouldn't have so many haters if he wasn't top 5 :oldlol:

True :lol He threatens MJ's legacy so they get scared and find ways to hate. It's pretty obvious.