So I got fired from my job for assaulting a coworker...

[jongib369]

He was talking shit and didn't stop after I told him to, it was nothing bad in hindsight... But lets just say it wasn't a good day for me because of personal problems outside of work. I walked up to him and slapped him over the back of the head pretty damn hard and nearly knocked his glasses off. Once I regained my cool a few seconds later I was apologetic right away, but obviously that didn't matter. He stood there stunned, and then left the store. Apparently he was crying in the break room. So my question is what do I do now? This was my first job, but now I don't think I can even use it as a reference where I've built up experience on lift equipment in hopes to get a better paying job elsewhere. Any advice? Should I maybe list them as a reference but give a number of someone who works there but might not say bad things about me? Or should I not list them what so ever? I'm ****ed fam, but I did it to myself not denying that :banghead: :hammerhead:

[brownmamba00]

What exactly did he say? You should've handled it outside.

[kennethgriffen]

sign up for police training. they like people who can physically assert themselves

i was thinking about doing it after my assault charges

[jongib369]

What exactly did he say? You should've handled it outside.
He's from El Salvador and speaks horrible English so I didn't even understand all of what he was saying... But to sum it up he was basically calling me lazy and to hurry up, that I do this every day etc which is BS. Normally I'd roll with it since my Irish coworkers have busted my balls much worse, but I knew they were joking around. I wasn't sure with him because he had a tendency to take everything as a joke, get on other peoples nerves and just laugh at them when they were being serious for him to stop. I had just got into work and was doing our mandatory stretches before unloading the truck. When he started up I yelled more than loud enough for him to hear "Shut the **** up I'm not in the mood" so I thought he'd get the message. I'm nursing a shoulder injury and was the main guy of two people unloading boxes onto a conveyor belt for a small team of people to sort at Home Depot. We'd get like 1500-2000+ boxes, and not all of that shit was light so I NEEDED to make sure my body was ready as it was my first day back. So the stress of having to work with that injury, home problems, and his mouth got to me. Dumb af I know

[Prometheus]

So this dude was up your ass, then all you did was slap him up the back of his head... and he started crying?

:yaohappy:

My god what a pu$sy. Go apply at your nearest bar as a bouncer and tell them your story.

[jongib369]

So this dude was up your ass, then all you did was slap him up the back of his head... and he started crying?

:yaohappy:

My god what a pu$sy. Go apply at your nearest bar as a bouncer and tell them your story.
To be fair this guy is like 5'4 135, and I'm like 5'8 or 9, 185 and lift. Not strong but definitely stronger than the average joe my size who doesn't. Hit him pretty damn hard for a slap, put all my body weight into it lol. He's 33, and has a family back home in his country so maybe he was upset that he couldn't do anything in retaliation without getting fired himself.

[Ben Simmons 25]

If it was truly your first job just take it as a learning experience and go find entry level work elsewhere. It won't take you long unless you have unrealistic expectations of what entry level looks like.

And no, don't put them down as a reference.

Don't put your hands on people at work unless you absolutely have to do it for self defense. This isn't like on the street where a slap to the back of the head results in nothing other than some hurt feelings. You will almost always get fired. It's the same with your words... you have to be careful with them. You can't talk to coworkers like you would your closest friends while you're at work. You just can't.

[egokiller]

I had this little Mexican guy that worked for me named Pico. We tried to get him a new hair piece because he looked so silly but then decided against it because he kept stealing peanuts and trying to send them to his family. I think we even got some of the incident on tape. Here, take a listen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmtD-q_Hm0k

[jongib369]

If it was truly your first job just take it as a learning experience and go find entry level work elsewhere. It won't take you long unless you have unrealistic expectations of what entry level looks like.

And no, don't put them down as a reference.

Don't put your hands on people at work unless you absolutely have to do it for self defense. This isn't like on the street where a slap to the back of the head results in nothing other than some hurt feelings. You will almost always get fired. It's the same with your words... you have to be careful with them. You can't talk to coworkers like you would your closest friends while you're at work. You just can't.
Guess I'm worried these places wont hire someone who's 27, close to being 28 with no job experience I can show them now. What do I tell them? Wont look good, they will think I sat around with my thumb up my ass during my 20s. Which I might as well have. I've taken classes to become a firefighter, still need more but honestly the rate in which they get cancer spooks me from it. Bad family history of it

[stalkerforlife]

I was arrested for hitting a fellow employee; however, he ran downstairs and jumped in my face. I asked him numerous times to take it outside, but he refused and it happened in front of the entire restaurant. There was no walking away because I would've been perceived as a p ussy.

Sucks, bro.

[Jasper]

sounds like both of you guys need to grow up , and control your mouths.
You might not like someone, but that conflict should be addressed with your boss.
Now I am going to advise you about your fired job.

This is the best thing for you!!!
You will realize in short order that a job is important , and no one will help you , BUT YOUR SELF.

I lost a job as in Chicago , and that day bought 3 papers to look for another job.
At the time I interacted with a job hunter, and he set me straight and lined me up with 4 job interviews. 3out4 jobs they wanted me.
Never for got it, and a great lesson in life.

good luck on your job search.

[Prometheus]

Guess I'm worried these places wont hire someone who's 27, close to being 28 with no job experience I can show them now. What do I tell them? Wont look good, they will think I sat around with my thumb up my ass during my 20s. Which I might as well have. I've taken classes to become a firefighter, still need more but honestly the rate in which they get cancer spooks me from it. Bad family history of it

Find a family member who owns a business and get them to say you worked for them

[jongib369]

sounds like both of you guys need to grow up , and control your mouths.
You might not like someone, but that conflict should be addressed with your boss.
Now I am going to advise you about your fired job.

This is the best thing for you!!!
You will realize in short order that a job is important , and no one will help you , BUT YOUR SELF.

I lost a job as in Chicago , and that day bought 3 papers to look for another job.
At the time I interacted with a job hunter, and he set me straight and lined me up with 4 job interviews. 3out4 jobs they wanted me.
Never for got it, and a great lesson in life.

good luck on your job search.
Thank you hopefully I can find something soon. Probably was the best thing for me, I need to learn to vent that anger into something positive also

[jongib369]

Find a family member who owns a business and get them to say you worked for them
That's actually a pretty damn good idea lol. Got a family member into carpentry, thanks

[sammichoffate]

Go back to school?

[jongib369]

Go back to school?
I might try but I'm not sure what to go for, I've never been good in school long term. Above average IQ but I got a couple learning disabilities that make it tough. But maybe I'm putting to much weight into that as I was doing very good in fire science before I unraveled. I lack discipline, which I should be able to work on since I'm cognizant of the problem but easier said than done, I guess? Probably just another excuse. Had bad habits imprinted on me, and I continued snowballing the problem when I could've changed it years ago. That's what I get for ignoring the problem and focusing more so on the short term like getting laid, and smoking weed 25/8. Helped the anger issues(towards men) but hurt everything else lol

Maybe I could take business as I have a decent chunk of change to play with, might be able to make the money I have work for me somehow. But I'm worried I'd **** up and lose it all. I need to become a male thot and go after some WNBA players.

[highwhey]

i hope you get a job quickly bro, i'm sure you will. you seem smart.


but let this be a life lesson to you, don't put hands on another person unless it for self defense. walk away bro. i realize it's tough if they get on your nerves and are pushing your buttons, but it's never worth it.

meditate or focus on something to temper your emotions.

we/re the same age btw.

[Prometheus]

That's actually a pretty damn good idea lol. Got a family member into carpentry, thanks

Yeah I have a sister who is en entrepreneur and has no hangups about lying to employers for me. I'm ashamed to say it's a luxury I have abused. But it's really good to fall back on, kind of like a safety net for a resume.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Taking anger management courses two days ago.

Very similar situation heard earlier. Involved violence and a felony charge on a person who was in a tough situation to begin with when her boundaries were crossed.

Anywho the point is there's a better way to express anger.

You got to warn them ahead of time firmly before things escalate.. something like THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE CONDUCT in an authoritative tone.

[baudkarma]

He was talking shit and didn't stop after I told him to, it was nothing bad in hindsight... But lets just say it wasn't a good day for me because of personal problems outside of work. I walked up to him and slapped him over the back of the head pretty damn hard and nearly knocked his glasses off. Once I regained my cool a few seconds later I was apologetic right away, but obviously that didn't matter. He stood there stunned, and then left the store. Apparently he was crying in the break room. So my question is what do I do now? This was my first job, but now I don't think I can even use it as a reference where I've built up experience on lift equipment in hopes to get a better paying job elsewhere. Any advice? Should I maybe list them as a reference but give a number of someone who works there but might not say bad things about me? Or should I not list them what so ever? I'm ****ed fam, but I did it to myself not denying that :banghead: :hammerhead:

Yeah, you're probably screwed. To determine just how screwed, you need to find out exactly what information they'll be giving out if you use them as a reference. You can have a friend call them, or if the company is big enough and you don't know anyone in HR personally, you can make the call yourself. Tell them you're calling to check the references of a job applicant, and they should put you in touch with the right person.

Basically you'll want to give them your name, and tell them that's the name of a person who's applied for a job and listed them as his previous employer. They may want to know what company you're calling from, so have a name ready so you don't sound suspicious. Then you can ask your questions. These are the questions that HR people usually ask.

"What was his hire date?"
"When was his last day of work?"
"What was his job title?"
"Is he eligible for rehire?"

Obviously the last question is the important one. Some companies are so worried about lawsuits that they won't say anything negative about a former employee, not even revealing that they're not eligible for rehire. And some companies are so disorganized that they don't keep track of why an employee was let go. If they say you're eligible for rehire, you're good to go.

If they say you're not, then you'll have to go to plan B. When you're being interviewed, tell them up front that if they call to check, they'll be told you're not eligible for rehire. If the ask why, tell them another employee was verbally harassing you (which is true), and that you complained to your supervisor but nobody did anything about it (which is not true), so you quit without giving two weeks notice. If you're a minority, you can hint that some of the verbal harassment was racial in nature. HR pros will be somewhat skeptical about your story, but in todays tight job market, it might be enough to get you through.

[jongib369]

Yeah, you're probably screwed. To determine just how screwed, you need to find out exactly what information they'll be giving out if you use them as a reference. You can have a friend call them, or if the company is big enough and you don't know anyone in HR personally, you can make the call yourself. Tell them you're calling to check the references of a job applicant, and they should put you in touch with the right person.

Basically you'll want to give them your name, and tell them that's the name of a person who's applied for a job and listed them as his previous employer. They may want to know what company you're calling from, so have a name ready so you don't sound suspicious. Then you can ask your questions. These are the questions that HR people usually ask.

"What was his hire date?"
"When was his last day of work?"
"What was his job title?"
"Is he eligible for rehire?"

Obviously the last question is the important one. Some companies are so worried about lawsuits that they won't say anything negative about a former employee, not even revealing that they're not eligible for rehire. And some companies are so disorganized that they don't keep track of why an employee was let go. If they say you're eligible for rehire, you're good to go.

If they say you're not, then you'll have to go to plan B. When you're being interviewed, tell them up front that if they call to check, they'll be told you're not eligible for rehire. If the ask why, tell them another employee was verbally harassing you (which is true), and that you complained to your supervisor but nobody did anything about it (which is not true), so you quit without giving two weeks notice. If you're a minority, you can hint that some of the verbal harassment was racial in nature. HR pros will be somewhat skeptical about your story, but in todays tight job market, it might be enough to get you through.
Thank you for the advice, I very well might try that.

[lilteapot]

sounds like you had a pretty easily accessible job so i think you can find something just as good without any reliance on a recommendation from this place.

[Bigsmoke]

I nearly was fired for eating popeyes.

I was fired a month after that tho

[jongib369]

I nearly was fired for eating popeyes.

I was fired a month after that tho

:biggums:

I'm eating Popeyes right now

[Rocket]

If you want to keep a job you have to resist the urge to knock the crap out of an asshole who desperately needs it. I have worked 30+ years and have worked with hundreds of people who desperately needed some kind of adjustment. It can be extremely stressful but you have to resist.

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